Death is not the end | Edward Frenkel and Lex Fridman
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Edward Frenkel is a mathematician at UC Berkeley working on the interface of mathematics and quantum physics. He is the author of Love and Math: The Heart of Hidden Reality.
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Guest bio: Edward Frenkel is a mathematician at UC Berkeley working on the interface of mathematics and quantum physics. He is the author of Love and Math: The Heart of Hidden Reality.
I lost my wife to cancer a few years ago. She was 36. We had spent every minute of our lives together since she was 15. The horror of the experience transformed me forever. In the end our love for each other was pure and limitless. I feel her around me everyday. Even almost 3 years later.
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I am so sorry for your loss mate. She is proud watching over you.
I’m very happy for you that you successfully keep her alive in your heart. ❤
Hey bro, that’s heartbreaking. Wishing you the best man.
I lost my daughter to a brain tumor on February 17th 2022, just over a year ago. The only thing that keeps me going everyday is knowing I’ll get to be with her again someday, that she is just watching over her family, if anything she pushes her daddy to do better because now I know she’s always watching.😅
have you ever thought of doing huachuma or plant medicine so you can possibly see her in the spirit world .. ? sorry for your loss ..
I lost my father a little over a year ago. We had a strong connection together, but after he passed he visited my dreams about 7 times before he was ready to leave. It was interesting because we did get a chance to hang out for a few of those dreams. I remember he looked so much better than he did when he was in the hospital. I also remember vividly that I had to yell at him during one of my dreams because he didn't want to move on due to the fact that he was a hoarder. Thankfully he did listen to me and moved on.
Interestingly he did have an NDE back in 1999 due to a complication of diverticulitis. He did tell me that he had a choice to stay or go when he was clinically brain dead on the operating table for 20 minutes. He stayed because he wanted to be a part of my life growing up. This gives me reassurance that we are much more than our physical bodies. I really hope that one day I can have a family of my own to honor and continue his legacy.
Lost my father 1 year ago today.
This clip helped me just get up today.
Thank you very much.
As long as there are human beings like this, having conversations like this, there is hope for us all. Be well!
I lost my father a year ago. This discussion with Edward has actually made me feel comforted, and has given me a different way of seeing and feeling. Thank you 🙏🏼
Same. A different perspective. Heart warming.
There were a great many things to take away from this video but the thing that stood out most to me. The way this man lit up when he talked about his father! The love was literally pouring from the depths of him it made me want to be a better dad to hug my daughter and tell her how proud of her I am so she might carry that love forward with her. Thank you
That is an adorable comment.
That’s the first thing I noticed too! And I can relate to him a lot because I was close with my dad. He was a very intelligent, warm hearted, hard working family man. I miss him so much.
I’m glad that this video has inspired you, it makes me happy to know that children have dads like you, especially with the way society is atm! 💗
I’m a tow truck driver. When people ask me “how’s business”? I say”it’s funding my research”. Thanks for doing what you do Lex.
That’s what’s so special about the internet, I’m just a normal kid from a small town, I clean cars but get to listen to these incredible minds for 9 hours a day while I do it, the reach and effect these podcasts have are fantastic, someone like us would never hear people like this discuss 50 years ago
@@Matt-mb3tk you are amazing ❤️
Jeff, you too are amazing ❤
I say I am studying. I am interested in everything and also love to be a homemaker
@@Matt-mb3tk you seem wise beyond your years if you are just a kid. very well spoken and intelligent. your parents should be very proud.
This was beautiful and profound. Never thought of how the love for a person transforms after that person's passing away... Sort of started to recognize it, but Edward put it so nicely and clearly. When a person is gone, so are the little frictions and this and that between you, and what is left is the pure love. Sort of like how nostalgia works I guess. Let's put it this way: when a person is gone, the dust and dirt - temporary superficial things - on your relationship is gone, cleared away. After that, you see your love shine, pure and clear. But also, if there were deep wounds or big blemishes, they will also become clear and apparent, living on as hurts left out without closure.
Beautiful comment.❤ Yep, the wounds between my deceased father and I are very, very deep. I cried a lot with this interview, I just wished to have a father like that.
agreed. the idea that death/the end of life process "is love totally exposed". wow. so powerful
Brilliant, thanks for explaining what I could not put into words
I lost my little sister and I have to say he is spot on when some of the things I went through with grieving.
This clip makes me think how much I'd miss my dad when he'll pass, but also how much I miss my step-dad who I loved dearly as well who has already passed.
So impressed when a person with high IQ can still leave room for the mystery and the unknown . In my opinion it’s one of the most admirable traits , you could easily be arrogant when your blessed with a gift of high IQ . But these people stay humble and allow love to reign
He’s right; Loss takes all the filters off and leaves Love in its fullest form.
Absolutely brilliant interview !!!! I didn't know much about this gentleman except his name (rep) but what a spectacular human being !!!!....Lex - you just keep upping the level of real human transparency!!! ...what I mean is , you become vulnerable in these conversations so the guest can be comfortable enough to b who they really are ...and they become vulnerable as well!!! ....just brilliant human interactions!!! ...though we will never meet and this message won't be remembered ...please know this - I am truly inspired by everything you do and hav done!, and each day I say to myself ..."with all hope and luck, Lex will find his soul mate today and his search for the love he envisions in his lovely mind , will be his to live within ...to share and enjoy til his last very days!" ...your gonna get there - I wish harder then anyone because I lost my love (she past in a car accident in '91) and I still carry the energy and memory with , thru our son (who was just a 6mo yearold baby at the time) , the most beautiful of unconditional love each second since and every second forward!...I see her standing on street corners, often in the distance amongst a crowd...and she winks-smiles wide and throws a silly kiss towards me each and every time. Just like we shared when we walked this earth together decades ago. Your truest love is so close now as well , it's gonna hit you like nothing you could ever imagine and your so deserving of the wonderment of it all. Thanks for being you!
Cheers!
DJk
Chicago
This clip sums up how I feel about my father, who I lost in 2001 when he was only 58, and I had just turned 23. I had an extremely vivid dream of how his death would play out when I was in first grade, and I would pray every day that my dream would not come to reality - praying he would see my kids one day. Those prayers weren't answered, but being his son for the time we had together was a miracle and blessing beyond any Measure.
He was the most amazing dad, and I'm so grateful for the time we had with him. He has been with me in my heart and soul every second since we lost him. I truly believe he is always with me, and God willing I will see him again in one form or another.
Thank you so much Lex, and Edward. Grateful for you gents and the love and perspectives you share.
I was with my father when he passed.....in the hospital.....and he sat up all of a sudden and gasped for air with a look of horror on his face. I miss him terribly, and I can't get that out of my mind.
I'm sorry my friend. I watched my grandfather go almost the same way. It's a horrible scene to get stuck in your head.
Sorry to hear that. When I was 9 my 8 year old sister died on an operating table via open heart surgery. I never got to say goodbye. I thoight id be seeing her in a couple of days. Life is tough. I miss her so much to this day
He probably realized death is not the end. I'm sorry.
The people we comfort and help take care of before they pass or cross on to paradise, will be the first people we see
@@snailrace4183 There's no paradise.
This guy had me tearing up at multiple points and both my parents are thankfully well. I guess I'm projecting my own insecurities about death. Inspiring really
This concept is exactly what i told my mom when she had a feud with my grandmother.
My mom was extremely bitter over things that had happened in her life growing up that my grandmother had done or not done, neglect etc.
And i told her that no matter all the bad things you feel your mother has done to you, there are bound to be good things as well.
And when the day comes that grandma draws her last breath, you will wish that you did not let her go with resentment still lingering between you.
Because that is something you can never undo.
It will haunt you for the remainder of your life.
Even if it doesn't right now, it eventually will because the human mind is wired to protect us from traumatic experiences and as such we tend to retain the good memories of a person more clearly than the negative.
And when that happens, you will regret not getting on good terms with her again.
She did take my advice and just 2 weeks later my grandma fell and broke her hip at the age of 84 from which she never recovered and got hospitalized for a month before taking her last breath 2023-03-20.
R.I.P Grandma
You live on in our memory!
Take my advice, don't wash your linen in public it doesn't do you any good or anyone else any good - it is utterly unnecessary and equally irrelevant try to overcome your imbecile desire to spill your guts there is as is said, an economy of truth don't spend it all at once!
This is why I interview people that have passed on & live to tell of what they saw, to spread this message of hope, renewal, rebirth, & revival.
As someone who lost both parents by the time I was 11, I had to develop certain unique abilities most don’t, in order to emotionally survive -that drive paired with some NDE’s myself, may’ve contributed to me being more in touch with my intuition then most -but I highly recommend knowing, that you are all powerful, & everything you seek, you have within you -and that anyone you’ve ever “lost” is with you -and yes you can talk to them etc, just my take.
I technically died like last month they said it was like for 8 minutes it was very weird and now I'm thankful to live
May we all receive the answers we seek 🙏🏼
The best explanation of love and life I’ve ever heard ❤️ I rarely comment but I had to let it be know. This is why your so important Lex never stop
The sudden loss of a loved one is a bitch.
The impossible amount of tears that you can cry.
The insane weight on your shoulders and the void in your heart for years.
The mindblowing fact staring in your eyes when you go outside - the world still turns and society is thriving.
I wanted to scream my lungs out.
Lost my brother almost two decades ago and the pain (if you even can call it that) is indescribable.
It didn't teach me about love, or so I thought.
The birth of my first child gave me almost the exact same feelings but in a positive way.
Now I know love.
I don't fear death.
I fear what my absence would do to the ones who love me.
Thank you, I'm a mathematician/engineer who has been blessed professionally for over 40 years by others, who stand on the shoulders of others, I've watched related lectures in Edward's series with you Lex, thank you!
Their conversation is comforting. Honor is brought to those who know these gentlemen as friends.
This is such a powerful and inspiring conversation. Edward Frenkel is a brilliant mathematician and a wise philosopher who shares his insights on life, death, love and the human condition. I admire his courage to overcome the challenges he faced in his life and his gratitude for every moment he had with his father. He also challenges us to question our assumptions and to embrace the paradoxes of life. Thank you Lex for bringing him on your podcast and for asking such deep and meaningful questions. You are both amazing human beings. 🙏🙌👏
I love your pod Lex. Even guests you have on with episodes that I expect not to understand anything about, feeling not smart enough, always gives me a lot! Thanks Lex!❤
I lost my father to lung cancer 3 years ago. We were very close, i felt him as an extension of me. In his last moments he wrote a beautiful poem about empathy and just before the nurse gave him an injection of morphine he looked at the sky at the window, he was fighting to enjoy every last second. Those moments stayed with me forever and I feel him everyday.
I’m sorry for your loss. He sounds like he had a tremendous impact in your life. You carry him with you so he’s not gone.
He is with you till you die. Once you die, you will meet him in afterlife.
My grandfather died of that, too.
Luckily it was a very fast death. Six weeks before death he was still cycling 3 miles a day. He was 79 years old. 🥹
He was always outside in nature, worked as bricklayer and gardener. He drank a beer a day and smoked half a pack of cigarettes. He also took care of his mother in her last years.
He never made the expression that he regret something he did.
RIP Hans
This clip started my day and made me decide this is going to be a great Sunday.. Thank You so much Lex and your guest!
This is one of my favorites out of all of your clips. Thank you.
Still one of the best podcasts I’ve listened to in my life. The shared knowledge, the passion, the romance. Well done and thank you.
What an amazing son, man and human being! This short clip just lit my day up like a sunrise. Thank you for sharing!
I haven't been this enlightened about a tough topic like death in quite some time. Thank you so much for sharing your perspective.
Lost my beloved father 14 years ago and think about him every second of the day. Thanks for this interview Lex.
Loved this chat , love you Dad RIP ❤️
Thank you very much for this!
Another morning, another brilliant clip from an outstanding conversation! Thank you!
I understand perfectly. I was with my father in his last days. I saw how our defences went down, how there was this last chance to just make it all better. Immense healing available for all of us if you face it. We still felt him after he die.
This was such a deep and beautiful conversation. Thank you for creating this content Lex.
So well done! Wonderful interview!
This guy is low-key enlighten...
What an incredible and beautiful story. Having good family is so so much.
I can relate 100% to what he is saying. This is so deep. It is hard to express with words.
Thx Lex and guest
How could you watch this interview and not come away at least a little bit in love with Edward Frenkel? What a beautiful man.
He formulates his thoughts in the most beautiful way, absolutely mesmerizing
I love this guy. I really enjoyed this conversation. God bless.
Classic Lex. Thank you so much for these moments, dear Lex. For a couple of geeks, you are profoundly inspiring.
When I lost my mom, my hyperactive brain went into a frenzy to come up with something that would make me feel better. I came up with the theory that there is nothing to worry about, because after enough time, every single thing has to repeat again. I will exist again, and everyone I know is bound to exist again. I can't see how that is not going to be true now, as I can't be that special that universe can't recreate me after enough time has passed. And the funny thing is, no matter how much time it takes, it would instant to us as time flies when you are dead.
Well, now I worry about perpetual existence and I'm afraid I will never be able to stop existing.
Such a beautiful story about his dad
DMT made me believe in an afterlife. I understand why that sounds ridiculous, but No one can convince me otherwise.
That’s fine but makes no sense lol. I’ve done it to
The universe shows us constant birth and death, from small scales to large scales, between all forms of life. We also know energy is neither created nor destroyed. In these ways I feel that, although this form may end, we will continue in some other way.
When I was on dmt my apartment took form of a space vessel. That convinced me that its a powerful mind altering substance and only that
May I ask why it feels so believable?
Graham Hancock described DMT as type of portal, along with meditation and death that can bring you to a different dimension. I personally coded in a hospital and knew when I took my last breath and was overcome by a feeling of peace that there are no words to adequately describe it. I went on quite a journey on the "other side" which left me quite anxious to go there again when it's truly my time.
I love this guy…. What a fantastic brain…
He is not his brain. That would minimize who he is greatly
Beautiful and profound! Thanks for posting!
Fantastic interview, as usual.
Amazing talk, I really enjoyed it.
DAMN LEX! You have the most thoughtful podcasts on the interwebs! Smart, humble and introspective.
I’m really into altered states of consciousness, such as out of body experiences and near death experiences. I used to talk about this subject a lot with my grandfather, who I was really close with. I used to give him my own personal theories on what happens when we die, he liked talking about this because he confided in me he was scared of dying and he was sick and very old. I asked him the second to last time I saw him before he died if when he goes that he could give me a sign that there is something after, if possible. He then died a few months ago. About a few days or week after his death I had an extremely realistic dream involving him.
In this dream my family was at my grandparents house grieving and talking about how much we missed my grandfather. Then the doorbell rang. I went and opened the door and it was my grandfather, he had a radiance about him. He said that he misses me, gave me a hug, and I then woke up.
I’m not saying the dream was actually a sign from him, it very well could be a way of me processing his death. But still, I wonder.
I have had similar dreams about my relatives, they’re usually far more intense and memorable than typical dreams. Even if it is just processing, it can be very pleasant and bring closure.
Love this guy. He is such a great human. No other way to put it.
So beautiful. Experimenting with Buddhist experiential paths since years, I got some glances that ultimate reality knows no space, no time and ‘here’ is not a place and ‘now’ is not a time. Reality is this pure, loving oneness beyond concepts and words. Edward - in his amazing authenticity - succeeds with the miracle to find suitable words to describe this joyful oneness.
It’s so true, we can’t hold back the waves of life , even though it’s the most painful reality to accept , it must be accepted to fully be alive, at least the love we feel stays with us until we ourselves are no longer here
Excellent guest Lex. What an inspirational, beautiful human.
Loved this guest. Loved his incredibly perceptive take on love and death.
I hope we get another life to live when this one is over
Not a chance
I hope not
It only needs to be ever so slightly worse than our current reality to become an entire new lifetime of catastrophic regret.
Sure but better to live life to the fullest like it's your last.
Of course thru our Lord Jesus Christ. Find a Bible and read the gospel of John, God bless your search.
Yup... yes to love and gratitude every time, all the time!
This one is hits home 🙏🌹
Wow you got it brother.
You are a manifestation of what is. And love is the answer 🙏🏼😊❤️
Loved this segment. We as humans need to hear these stories. Very uplifting and shows what's important.
Death isn't the end, it's the beginning.
Nah. It's the end, mate. Certainly it's the end for the person who died. Some memories survive for a while, but four generations on, not even a name is actively recalled. Do you know your great-great-grandfathers' names, even - without going to some effort to look them up? Much less: What they did? Where they lived? What kinds of personalities they had, their struggles, their big personal wins, losses, ambitions, hopes, achievements, disappointments? Who they were
You live on as an echo of their passage, but other than that, they're gone and forgotten.
@@JasperElvenSky yes it’s the end for them in this experience but Miles is insinuating the possibility of life after death
Of nothing
@@alexcorrea4828 you know nothing
@@isabelmerryl except your an uneducated moron
Hearing him talk about his dad ideologies being passed down to him gave me AOT flashbacks
Beautiful conversation. I used to think of everything as material and quantifiable; likely an attempt to control my reality. Now that I'm older and wiser, I can admit I don't know it all, likely never will, or even more likely, no mind ever can. Conceptualization is not a substitute for the possible limitless experience of consciousness.
Great math professor
"Grief is a way of loving what has slipped from view. Love is a way of grieving that which has not yet done so." Stephen Jenkinson.. from 'Die Wise'
I like Ed a lot. Great man.
His explanation of love becoming totally exposed and realized when your loved one leaves has given me a way to somehow convey to others something they haven't experienced. You can't make them conceptualize it or understand the feeling with words, but this was so eloquently stated that it gives them a starting point.
I've thought about the lifecycle of a butterfly as a metaphor for life. Life being the caterpillar, death as the cocoon or chrysalis, and whatever comes next as the butterfly.
I think our experiences and memories persist outside of our human form and can be accessed and experienced in a similar way that your phone can access your Gmail messages. Those messages don't solely reside within your phone. If the phone reaches the end of its life, those messages will still exist.
I'm not sure what happens after we die, but I do believe those memories and experiences still exist somewhere.
In nature, it seems like everything is recycled, reborn, and renewed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like everything on this earth has a purpose. I don't mean a destiny, but a role. Like oxygen, or an insect that converts waste into a resource. This extends even beyond the earth when you consider how important the sun is and how the moon impacts the tide.
It seems unnatural for our memories to just vanish. If they do, maybe they transcend to something outside this universe. I really don't know, but it seems like there's a reason we're here. Perhaps it's to gather information and create moments that impact the growth of the universe. We are programmed to move and observe, and our brains reward us for doing so.
I often wonder if we are part of something much greater. That the lives we live as individuals are part of a singular consciousness or force.
To use another phone analogy, the orientation sensor in your phone "knows" basically three things: the numerical values of its x, y, and z positions. It cannot comprehend the idea that it is part of a phenomenally powerful computer that a living, breathing being can hold in its hand that allows for navigation, communication, playing music, recording and sharing videos, and much more.
I say all this in hopes that someone who reads this, perhaps someone who has lost someone they deeply care for, might take comfort and find hope that their loved one still exists in some way, perhaps even as a part of those who love them. 🖤
How great is that guy!
Without understanding death, you cannot understand love. Without understanding death, you cannot understand beauty. Death is not a bug, its not an escape, its not an end, death is a gift.
dumb, death is not the end.
Just lost my father on my birthday a few months ago, I feel his pain….
Amazing for sure!
Yes, when we lose someone we care about, their value and meaning to us become glaringly obvious. The void left behind feels like a vital part of your world was ripped away. All of the emotions, the pleasures, the connections you shared w them are no more, and you obsessively think about that until time slowly calms the wound. But what is it to care about someone? Or something? We care about many things, people pets places homes, anything can have meaning to us, even things we don't know personally. Yet so many struggle with finding meaning in an existential sense. If you love your mother or brother, then why is it hard to love the place that provides the opportunity for them to be? Or you're very similar to those you love so why is it hard to love yourself? Idk but it is, it can be. We more readily love things close to us than we love ourselves, can only mean something went wrong in how we've built our perception and meaning of self.
So birth is not the beginning.....can you remember before you were born? Even if death is not the end, the thought that you carry on being , say....Bill from Scunthorpe doesn’t quite sit? Energy, essence....yes, possibly. Spirit with memory of past life.....er NO! Love for sure lives on in the surviving loved ones.....if your lucky enough to be loved and love. Remember, not everyone is that fortunate.....sadly. He is right, he bases his answer on HIS experience which is all we can do. What I always appreciate with people like this, is that they can express themselves clearly in what is not their native language. They have worked hard to communicate so they express themselves with a real passion and understand how fortunate they are to have the opportunities they have had in their life. Especially true for him, as he was initially denied the opportunity to study what he dreamt of doing.
Wow.... possibly one of the best conceptualisations of Love ever.
Beautiful, brilliant guy
Cherish your parents if they are wonderful people and cherish you. Many people do not have that precious gift.
Listening to him reminds me why I love my fellow humans
What a lovely human ❤❤❤
Losing a parent as a kid really makes you understand it’s part of the process of life. Cherish the people you love bc this life is temporary.
When I lost my mom, my hyperactive brain went into a frenzy to come up with something that would make me feel better. I came up with the theory that there is nothing to worry about, because after enough time, every single thing has to repeat again. I will exist again, and everyone I know is bound to exist again. I can't see how that is not going to be true now, as I can't be that special that universe can't recreate me after enough time has passed. And the funny thing is, no matter how much time it takes, it would instant to us as time flies when you are dead.
Sounds crazy, but think about it. If you beat the odds and you happen to exist once, then surely the odds of you existing again must be at least somewhat higher than initially. And to think that we are so special that we can never be recreated is quite arrogant when you think about it.
Well, now I worry about perpetual existence and I'm afraid I will never be able to stop existing.
"Gratitude is heaven itself." - William Blake
Wonderful man ❤
Such a nice human.
Beautiful!
very glad & grateful i clicked this one 🙇🏾♂️
Very nice!
Considering my own mortality and being unable to comprehend my own death and what it “feels like” after lead me to pay closer attention to what Jesus Christ said when he was on Earth. Christianity and Christ make a lot more sense when considered in the context of death and mortality of conscious beings like ourselves
Yeah if that's what rocks your boat but alot of people found solice in other religions and what they believe to be what actually happens after death so really it's more of a preference really
amazing!!
Moving and Great ❤️
I think there's purpose to both. Very interesting, glad to hear this
Intelligence is a perception not a possession.
Or a posession that allows for better perception?
What a wonderful person! That is all I have to say.
Beautiful
I lost my father last Sept we were very close I still can't believe he's gone and to be honest I'm struggling 😢😢
He’s still here, because your still here, in a long line of beings from the beginning of time, it hurts and we will always miss them, people will miss us when the time comes hopefully, keep playing your part in the line of progression , the strengths in you