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The SNES fans’ guide to Genesis RPGs (and vice versa!) - Nintendo VS Sega
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.พ. 2018
- Looking for a new RPG to play? Love the SNES and your heart throbs at the mere mention of Squaresoft? Have you tried going Sega? Well in this video I do my best to pair up classic SNES JRPGs with their closest Sega approximations.
Games Featured:
Lufia 2 vs LandStalker
Secret of Mana vs Beyond Oasis
Breath of Fire 2 vs Shining Force 2
Arcana vs Shining in the Darkness
Ultima: The False Prophet vs D&D Warriors of the Eternal Sun
Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem vs Warsong
Shadowrun vs Shadowrun
Final Fantasy 4 vs Phantasy Star 2
Super Mario RPG vs Wonder Boy in Monster World vs Popful Mail
Final Fantasy 6 vs Phantasy Star 4
Chrono Trigger vs Lunar
Earthbound
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Phantasy Star 4 is one of the greatest RPGs ever made
Alys VS Aeris. Alys wins
Easily
How would you compare phantasy star 4 to Dragon Warrior 3?
Phantasy Star IV is the best 16bit RPG.
Truly amazing jrpg from genesis
Oh my god, just a few seconds of Phantasy Star IV gameplay footage and I instantly get a hankering to play it again even after all these years. God that is such a satisfying play.
Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millennium is so underrated
Overlooked is the word, not underrated, people who play it love it and it has been prised by critics and players alike since its release. BUT there are many people that not even know it... Overlooked, not underrated.
Ok, fine overlooked then haha
Phantasy Star IV is horribly overrated
Honestly I'm sad the series ended like that. But yeah PSIV was an amazing conclusion. I wish the devs would've made more but oh well.
Zayaan Nashrid I agree. Wish they would've made more in the classic series but it was a great finale :)
Although Skies of Arcadia had a lot of the same people working on it. You might want to check that out on Gamecube, or Dreamcast if you have one
Back then when i played any rpg, my friends thought i'm some kind of genius for understanding how to play those games. I was 10-12 y/o.
Because you could read.
The Phantasy Star series was amazing.
It still is if you like MMOs. Phantasy Star Online 2 is still a solid game even though its a little old. You can play easily on the japanese server with the english patch that is updated each time the game gets patched.
"Final Fantasy VI vs Phantasy Star IV". This section immediately brought a smile to my face, because those are my two favorite rpgs, paired together. Also, props for putting Zone Eater and the Sandworm side by side, too!
I do like phantasy star 4 probably better than most notable snes RPGs, well except chrono trigger.
Agreed.
I think in your comparison, some of the Genesis versions are actually better (like Oasis or Shining Force).
The thing I'd also argue, however, is that overall the SNES has about three to four times as many great JRPGs compared to the Genesis... if you include the ones that remained in Japan. From Seiken Densetsu 3 to Rudora no Hihou, from Treasure Hunter G to Star Ocean to finally Terranigma (okay, we had that in Europe), the SNES has some pearls the west never got.
But that doesn't make Genesis games bad, the Genesis still really has some great ones.
Yeah if you start throwing in unreleased SFC games the Mega Drive gets absolutely buried under a mountain of RPGs. But for what we had in the West, I think it's a decent lineup. Really wish we'd have gotten Surging Aura though.
Fen Y my thoughts as well..love both too
Surging Aura would've been really nice, yeah!
In the west, it really was sorta even. Even more so in Europe: We didn't get half of the good SNES RPGs, no Chrono, no FF6, zilch. Sure did get Story of Thor/Oasis and Phantasy Star IV, though. :)
Personally, I'd call Shining Force 2 vs Breath of Fire 2 a technical draw. The world is similar, but the styles are different, and while I enjoyed more Shining Force, it's more because there are better turn based RPGs than Breath of Fire 2, but almost no Strategy RPGs as good as SF2.
I still hate the ending of SF2, though. Poor Sarah...
You forgot to mention the two greatest Japanese RPGs , Dragon Quest 5 and 6 !
There's no shame in losing to Earthbound!
Genesis became tame.
NOPE just no. Sleeperbound is a bit of a miss
Great comparison video. I need to play more Sega RPGs.
You got damn right!
I still haven't got around to playing that one
You should, the Shining Force games are I would say better than the Final Fantasy ones and I hate RPGs.
P Ferreira Not for me it's not. I love Shining Force and even have the latest one, Shining Resonance Refrain, on pre-order for the Switch. However, nothing will ever beat Final Fantasy IV or VI. Then there's Chrono Trigger and that's in a class by itself.
It's a matter of personal tastes at this point. The Genesis Shining games and Phantasy Star 2 and 4 are excellent, but some prefer their SNES counterparts.
Damn! You found and compared my 2 best RPG games: Phantasy Star IV Vs. Final Fantasy VI (cannonically speaking). I'll never be able to choose between them...
EarthBound: “You won’t find it’s equivalent on any other console either.”
Mother 3: “AM I A JOKE TO YOU?!”
Mother 3 is much better than Earthbound IMO
@@CassiusZedaker-pr7kc Based opinion
What I like so much about Sega Genesis ( Mega Drive ) RPGs is that they try to be more than what they can and they actually succeed . Like including cutscenes , or character sprites in the dialogue , it’s minor , but goes a long way to make them unique . Even Final Fantasy didn’t do that .
I was VERY lucky in that when I was a kid, I had a Sega Genesis and my best friend had a Super Nintendo... We would just trade back and forth so we got to experience all the greats...
This list really shows how hard Sega has fallen off in recent years. Shining Force is what got me into Tactical RPG like Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy Tactics and Disgaea. Phantasy Start 4 was the all time high point in the Phantasy Star Series the Music, Characters and setting all just knocked it out the park. Nice list.
Sysrestrpx Dragon Warriors, aka Dragon Quest, was the game that got me hooked on JRPGs. My dad bought it but returned it because I didn't know how to play it, I was 9 at the time.Then Nintendo offered it as a free game, with strategy guide, if you subscribed to Nintendo Power. That was it for me as the guide helped me learn to play RPGs. As a late gamer to the Sega line, I also truly love Lunar, Phantasy Star, Shining Force and Beyond Oasis. With this said, maybe because I started out on a Nintendo system and still a fanboy to this day, nothing beat Chrono Trigger, Paper Mario or Final Fantasy II or III.
I'm not sure what this has to with how Sega has fallen off from what they use to be.
In recent years? they've been falling off steadily for decades.
I honestly like the Classic Phantasy Star series more than the Classic Final Fantasy series. FF7 was the first one I actually liked, as well as my favorite of the series.
Ff4 deserves replaying go on give it a go. With a modern translation. As that works wonders on one of the best ff stories
This is a very nice list for comparing. Phantasy Star IV is THE rpg for me. Nothing else tops it, love that game so much. Need to give some love to WB in Monster World, still a good game IMO and prefer it over the game you used for comparison (Mario RPG) but hey to each thier own. Overall I prefer the Genesis RPGs but the Nintendo ones are still good and I did enjoy them. Nice video that I ran across here.
Phantasy Star 2-4 ruled!
Sean Ashmead Heck Yeah! 👍
Totally agree, popularity and the "internet viral knowldege" point out other RPG's as "the best" but people who actually played PSIV know the truth.
+ Sean Ashmead
What about Phantasy Star 1? It's actually very unique compared to the other PS games.
Phantasy Star 1 was a Sega Master System title, not Genesis/Megadrive. Having said that, yes, it was fantastic and one of the best RPG of the 8bit era, heck, it could outshine some 16bit ones.
Great concept for a video. For me Chrono Trigger and Phantasy Star IV make an excellent pairing, as they are both extremely refined, easy to get into, fast paced, and fun RPG's that represent the zenith of the genre on their respective systems. They also share great graphics, memorable music, and that wonderful sci-fi/fantasy aesthetic.
They also shift locations. Chrono Trigger with time and phantasy star iv with space and multiple planets.
The praise for EarthBound at the end, and how it has no comparable counterpart, made me smile :)
Imo maybe its a stretch,but I think Earthbounds closest Genesis counterpart may be ToeJam and Earl especially the 90s ness,graphics,and sense of humor/zaniness of both.
Love how the "TH-cam Ecochamber" seems to consider Final Fantasy 6 "vastly superior" to Phantasy Star 4, yeah not imo, PS4 is easily as good, and better in some aspects :)
It's subjective no matter what. Opinions simply cannot be argued in any meaningful way. I think that the majority of the 'echo chamber' you mention is simply a result of more people in north America playing SNES over genesis, and FF6 over PS4 by default. nostalgia glasses are where all this lies, so if you have a favorite, awesome! If you've only tried one, give the other a shot! More excellent games is much better than 'only the games _I_ think are better' any day.
mark jones Great comment
It's almost like you never played FF6
Semantic Nonsense, mate it's actually 1 of if not my favorite games of all time, I just consider Phantasy Star 4 to be just as good :)
In my opinion, what puts Phantasy Star 4 behind FF6 is that is much smaller. FF 6 was gigantic. Storywise... well, that's probably more a matter of taste, so I won't go there (I did enjoy more FF6). And about characters... I'll go and say that the quality is about the same, but FF 6 had more quantity. Again, size.
The combat system, though, FF6 was better, and it hurts me to say this. The combo system of Phantasy Star 4 was interesting, but also quite clunky.
Since I know a lot of snes RPGs, I am curious to find some genesis RPGs, I am glad I am able to discover a lot of them with the help of this video! Thank you! =D
Edit:
I love Phantasy star 4 and final fantasy 6 equally!
" you won't find earthbound's equivalent on any other console either."
off, lisa, undertale
basally you'll find them on pc.
Ooh, hadn't heard about "off" yet. Thanks!
They really don't compare. All of them are way out there story wise and are more of a meta take on 16 bit RPGs. Earthbound doesn't try to get meta until the end, but it comes as a twist rather than the point of the game. Of the above mentioned games, Undertail is close in humor, but it gets too wrapped up in it's own meta style of storytelling.
After seeing the beginning to this video, I _kinda_ wanna see a video about RPG commercials, lol. I sort of remember that now that I see it again, but it also sort of seems like it may be a weird nightmare filled with stop motion and puppetry :P Great video! It's always rad to hear about stuff I never knew of before (I had NO IDEA _Warriors of the Eternal Sun_ existed - I can't believe Westwood would try to rip off Ultima that much, holy jeez) and there's TONS of cool stuff here; it's always nice to see 'em highlighted!
Especially, personally, the woefully under-the-radar _Popful Mail_ - I love that game, especially since I grew up watching _Slayers_ among other fantasy anime :)
I wish I could find more RPG commercials in good quality. I got super lucky with this one. Also why does Popful Mail look exactly like the Slayer's girl? Is that intentional?
I feel like Lina from _Slayers_ intentionally influenced a ton of female protagonists in Japanese games from that era, but yeah, the resemblance in _Popful Mail_ in particular borders on rip-off... according to Hardcore Gaming 101, the two characters even share the same voice actress.
I'd bet money it's probably one of those cases of a studio wanting to make a game based on something, but not wanting to bother with licensing at the time, - like how _Contra_ is just a pastiche of _Commando, Rambo, Predator_ and _Aliens_ - but that's just wild speculation on my part
Barry-Allen The-Flash I like corny live action videogame commercials
Phantasy Star 4 was amazing, as well as Crusader of Centy. Thx for the video on this. Also loved Beyond Oasis.
This may be my favorite video from you, well done! The 8 and 16 bit RPGs aren't really for me but this does make me want to play Warriors of the Eternal Sun. It looks like Westwood learned a lot from it, that eventually made its way into Lands of Lore. Also Shining in the Darkness looks cool.
Sounds like I need to check out Lands of Lore.
Everyone ever should play Shining in the Darkness. Protip: Level up a little at the entrance of the dungeon before delving too far in or it can be a bad start to an otherwise awesome Dungeon Crawler.
I love Phantasy Star II: the characters, soundtrack and story it's all good but it's just too bad that the gameplay is not as fluid as Phantasy Star IV.
Me too. There's a ROM hack that makes it a friendlier experience, with rebalanced characters and spells, as well as double experience and meseta. I'd highly recommend it to people who want to play the game but find it clunky or frustrating.
@@xxcrysad3000xx Even with that, Phantasy Star 2 is still a shit game. Slow movement, terrible level design, uninteresting plot, etc.
@@solarflare9078 It's a product of it's time, I think it was made in what, 1988 and released in 1989? I agree that age has not been kind to it, but at the time of release it was pretty glorious.
@@xxcrysad3000xx Yeah, but Phantasy Star 1 at least had pretty good level design for a 1987 RPG (barring Baya Malay, but I'll give it a pass because it's one of the last dungeons, and it's not sandwiched between the end game) and a plot that, while simple, kicked everything off with the franchise. Grinding and the western PSG audio are really the only issues I have with it.
Every couple of years I’ll play Phantasy Star IV again. Love that game...
Thanks for mentioning Landstalker! That was one of my favorite games back in the day!
Oh boy.... it'll be interesting to see how this plays out!
Great video BTW, I had never heard of a couple of these... Also great to see a good Sega defense :D
I kind of forgot I had Phantasy Star II, Shining in the darkness , and Shining Force until I watched this .
Keep up the great work !
I always heard about Phantasy Star games but it wasn't what I grew up and I didn't mess with it. Got to say I finally got a copy of each and sat down and played the hell out of them on the Genesis. Great games.
Great list! So many games I remember wanting to play when I had both a SNES and Genesis way back when--Beyond Oasis for sure was on that list, along with another (probably not well remembered) Zelda clone called Crusader of Centy.
Crusader of Centy is mostly remembered today for being a $500 game :P
The German version (called Soleil) is available for between 20€ - 30€. This is an awesome game
It really stinks that Soleil is one of the later PAL releases that doesn't work natively in a Genesis console. :/
Weren't the Genesis and the Megadrive models region locked? Otherwise just play this game on an emulator. I've flashed my PS3 and put emulators on it. The feel is very authentic!
No, they started region locking the cartridges eventually. But like EA sold Genesis carts in Mega Drive boxes in Europe. And early games Like Shining Force can be played on either system regardless of territory.
Sega Genesis shadowrun was far superior
Yes! You get a pat on the back also.
The Matrix gameplay in the Genesis version was awesome!
The 2 games are completely different genre though i played the Genesis version a lot more than the SNES one
The genesis version of shadowrun may look great and superior, I feel that it is pretty lacking IMO.
I still prefer the snes version of Shadowrun since it is much more storywise.
And yes I agree that the matrix is better on genesis than snes.
Shadowrun looks like trash on both systems.
This is an enlightening video - thoroughly enjoyed it! While we've performed well over 10 pieces of music from popular SNES RPGs, we've only tackled ONE Genesis title so far (Phantasy Star IV). It would be interesting to see a similar SNES-Genesis RPGs comparison on the basis of the game music alone.
Great video! When I saw this video's title I thought "it would be really cool if she mentions Warsong, no one talks about it".
Love this one, though I prefer Shining Force 1 over 2, because its more driving story line and score.
Me too. Shining Force 1 is my favorite game period. But I didn't see a way to fit it into this particular video.
Sega RPGs are some of my favorite, especially Phantasy Star 2 and 4, Shining Force. Where as the SNES ones all seemed weaker, other than Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger anyway.
Though I am a story lover, so that is part of my bias.
Fun fact: Phantasy Star was released two years before Final Fantasy. It may say on google that both games we’re made in the same year, just two months apart, but on back of the box art for both says otherwise. Phantasy Star I : 1988, Final Fantasy I: 1990
Good video! This broke down many good alternatives whilst keeping it short, yet informative. Thanks for the upload.
Hahaha earthbound is it's own beast
Great vid! Always enjoy people repping Sega and their vastly underrated RPG library
I just played through Popful Mail again a few months back. Great game. I mean most of these games are solid. Great job on this.
"What does mineral water have in common with Cola? They both comes in bottles, they are liquid and you can drink them. Sure, they have completelly different taste, because they are different beverages, but the similarities are astounishing!"
I grew up with sega but once I found my love for rpgs so did for the snes.
Excellent video. I owned a snes and genesis/sega cd back then, and as great as the snes was with rpgs, it's foolish to sleep on sega
I'd actually argue that Phantasy Star 4 is almost the exact middle ground between Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono Trigger in terms of gameplay (random battles using characters that have a pre-determined move list with possible unlockable combo-techs, on a massive over world that allows random battles, but you can eventually switch between drastically different varients of overworld at will as the story progresses), with a heavy dose of Super Metroid in terms of music, and a more developed cast, and a better story than any of them (mostly because this was the very well done culmination of 3+ games worth of backstory while the other two were standalone titles, plus the manga stills during the cutscenes allowed a lot more emotive presentation than in-game graphics of that era allowed, though both FF6 and CT pay the envelope hard on that front).
Another comparison between Final Fantasy 4 and Phantasy Star 2 is that both games have extra games released in handhelds that expand upon the story and/or characters.
Shadow Run on the Genesis is my favorite video game adaptation of the franchise. The SNES Shadow Run isn't bad, but its controls spike my blood pressure. Langrisser is one of my favorite series of RPGs.
I would personally suggest a better alternative to Arcana in the Snes Dungeon Crawler category: The Shin Megami Tensei games or the remake of the first two Megami Tensei titles, that one is named Kyuuyaku Megami tensei.
I have yet to play BoF2 or SF2, but I would say that Tactics Ogre would be a better foil for Shining Force.
Also, funny thing, Der Langrisser (the sequel for Warsong), has ports for both SNES and Genesis, it would be interesting to see a comparison covering those.
I really need to play Der Langrisser. I grew up playing Warsong (although never got too good at it. So hard!) Great suggestions though. Keep em coming!
Happy to oblige. Have you tried Romancing SaGa 2? it got ported to Steam recently (its the only way you can play it in English by the way), it has a pretty unique set of mechanics, takes a while to get used to but its perfect if you want to try something pretty out there
I had downloaded it to my phone but hated the touch controls (felt like your characters were sliding around on ice) I need to retry the Steam release.
This is mega insightful and I am so indulging you right now. LOL #teamgenesis
I've been wanting to get Landstalker for some time now, mainly being the predecessor to Alundra. I played Shining in the Darkness a few years ago for the first time and despite those sharp difficulty spikes in the middle of each flood, I really enjoyed it. I love the Monster series, but haven't played World yet, and Popful Mail is one I've wanted to play since I was a kid and saw it in gaming mags, but haven't gotten to it still. Lunar is fantastic. The Genesis really does get ignored when it comes to RPGs, and my collection is definitely lacking still. Great picks and many seem like fair contenders.
Yet another stellar video! That was so good my wife even liked it, and she doesn't know what RPG means lol. This has prompted me to finally play Secret of Mana for the 1st time. Right now
That's awesome!
How about comparing n64 rpgs to saturn rpgs. Sega definitely beat nintendo in rpgs in that generation.
There were a couple more than that. If you're at all interested in n64 rpgs casposarus has a really good series on all of them.
Playstation took almost all of Nintendo's rpg thunder during the N64 era.
The problem with the argument in Nintendonts favor is that only one of the RPGS on your list was made by them, while several on the Genesis side were made by Sega themselves.
Sega is quite the ambitious game developer!!
For nearly every hot game on the market, they seem to always come up with their own unique IP that's nearly as good or if not, better than the competition!!
EX:
"Castlevania"/"Master of Darkness"
"Street Fighter 2"/"Virtua Fighter"
"Donkey Kong Country"/"Vector Man"(pre-render graphic wise...)
"Star Fox"/"Panzer Dragoon"
"Dragon Quest" and "Final Fantasy"/"Phantasy Star"
"Final Fight"/"Streets of Rage"
"Pokémon"/"Mushiking: The King of Beetles"
and the list goes on!!^^
That's a bit of a stretch
Master of Darkness may be better than the first Castlevania but it get's roflstomped by the third one(and was released in the near vicinity of the fourth one...for the Master System instead of the more competent Genesis. That game's schedule baffles me on every possible level)
And I never have heard about Mushiking, which isn't exactly great for it's brand(let alone Pokemon is the natural marketable evolution of Shin Megami Tensei regardless)
I just introduced my two little girls to Retropie and all that comes with. They love SNES and Genesis. My 6 year old is totally into Lufia right now, and the other is more into the platforms and SF. It's awesome! It's so cool showing them what I grew up with.
That's adorable. I gave my son a GBA and he's having fun with stuff like Mario World, Zelda, and Bomberman. I can't wait for him to learn to read, I've got a lot of stuff to introduce him to. ;)
Awesome video Daria! I definitely haven't given enough love to Sega in regards to their rpg catalog.
STOP STOP!~ FULL STOP... You cannot make a meaningful comparison between Lunar and Chrono Trigger... Chrono Trigger is just THE defining RPG of all time. I am sorry. Sega is awesome, but Sega will just have to suck that one up.
The hell I can't! :P
Sure you can. Lunar might not be close to the quality of Chrono Trigger, but to be fair, barely any games are. Lunar is however full of similar vibrant charm, and even today remains grossly underrated. I'd always go for the PS1 versions, though.
I've never played the Sega CD version of Lunar, but unless it's much inferior to the PS1 version I'd say those two are both among the best JRPGs ever made and personally I can't decide which is better. Both have great storylines, characters and music. When it comes to the battle systems CT's is more innovative but that's not necessarily a plus if you prefer a traditional turnbased system.
Nibernator Meh, I played Chrono Trigger and Lunar and enjoyed Lunar much more. Heck I actually enjoyed Chrono Cross more as well. Trigger is a very good game but I never liked Chrono...my first time I played it I didn't bother to revive him lol, now Frog was my leader! But to each thier own.
STOP STOP FULL STOP!!!!
Lunar I and especially II are vastly superior to Chrono Trigger in every measurable and feasible way.
It's painfully evident you have never played Lunar as anyone who has completed both would know Lunar is by a landslide better.
I was about to like the video then I heard "Wonderboy is not even Popful Mail good " lmao
Mario RPG is one of the most boring rpgs I ever played and it looks like shit too, Please DO NOT compare this crap to Wonderboy.
Thank you in advance for your courtesy and cooperation in this mater.
Poor Mario. :(
Sardines World Order I agree Mario RPG is fucking boring.
Sardines World Order Mario rpg was a great game for it's story
Monster World IV is better.
I mainly had snes growing up (36yrs.old) I'm only just now finding the phantasy star and shining games and they're fantastic mapping out shining in the darkness rite now
Love this video, I grew up playing all these Sega RPG's. Made me realize how attached I was to Lunar Silver Star. My emotions got all stirred up during that comparison.
Awwww...
snes kills genesis in every way. its not even a contest really. especially in the rpgs
Tell me that AFTER playing lunar the silver star. The genesis has a vastly underrated rpg library.
Play streets of rage 2 first.
SEGA >> Nintendo
No contest
Pedro Gonzales I already knew eversince in the early 2000's. Cut me some slack well you?
Pedro Gonzales I was just comparing back then so please don't even go there. Besides it's the past so let it go already.
Eh, you gotta love both. I've had amazing gaming experiences on both Sega and Nintendo hardware, I love the Gen a tad more than Snes, but the GC's my all-time favorite console.
Michael Patrick lol Well you DID start it. Comparing back then eh? Well from my experience your dead wrong. Either way, you would be a fool not to enjoy all the SNES, TG-16, and Genesis have to offer. I know I do.
I agree. There is no contest since Sega didn't even try to put up a fight where Nintendo is like the World champ...when it comes to rpg's at least.
This is such a fun topic. I feel that the best console generations are the ones where each competitor has an answer to each other's exclusives.
Breath of Fire II and Shining Force II literally the two video games that shaped my childhood. Well done
Omg you mentioned Warsong!!! My save did not work on Warsong so when I started playing I would have to keep playing to see how far I got. Never got to finish this game. It has been slowly simmering in my mind. I mentioned this game to some of the kids at work. They just don’t know.
Anyone that knows and loves the game Beyond Oasis gets a sub. Amazing game that no one ever played.
Adam Chamberlin
Yeah sadly I didn't discover Beyond Oasis until I bought Legend of Oasis for the Saturn when it came out.
I always though the thing was more between Fire Emblem and Shining Force, and between Famicom Wars and Langrisser (Warsong), though Langrisser seriously tried to break the mold, scale-wise.
Popful Mail is a late child of the 80's, and I love it for that.
Eh. I like being different. :P
Nice to see a channel about these old RPGs :D. I don't play them much nowadays because I prioritize games I own, but these old games will always be with me.
Just found your channel. I love your take on these!! Wonderful and rewatchable content. A++
This is a great video. I was born in 87, grew up during the technology boom and thankfully was able to own basically every console throughput life. I've played most of these games. Both Shadowrun games are great. Especially if you're familiar with the tabletop. Thankfully to save time we can still enjoy these games with faster frame skip
Great video Daria! I always value your opinions on RPGS and I enjoyed watching. You rock!
Missed out on most of the genesis library growing up, so I'd be down to try a few of these. I'm bookmarking this video for reference later
Oh that hurts. Wonder Boy In Monster World is one of my favourite Genesis games. Popful Mail is good too. Need to add that game to my list of finally beating it. The Lunar series on Sega CD just makes my day! Lunar Eternal Blue is my favourite JRPG of all time. Good list!
As a kid in the 90s I was mostly into platformers, beat em ups and sports games, however I gained an appreciation for rpg's over the last 10-15 years and now that things have come sort of full circle with the Genesis mini and SNES mini I'm absolutely loving Phantasy 🌟 IV, the story, the soundtrack and character models are all top notch. Final Fantasy III didn't suck me in yet on the SNES mini but I have been putting in a little work on Super Mario RPG, also a great game but I'm not nearly as invested into it as I have become to Phantasy 🌟 IV.
I love all of the overlapping that you used in this video! Nifty! Damn, there are a ton of Genesis RPGs I need to check out. I'll just refer back to this video when I'm hankerin' for a new 16-bit RPG to play.
Thanks, I had a hard time finding a good way to share the screen space with both video feeds and not just make them both tiny. So I think I came up with a creative solution.
Loving the Langrisser (Warsong) attention! A bit hectic, but underrated classic.
Great job Daria! Can't wait to dig into the rest of the Phantasy Star series! Also, you've piqued my interest in the original Lunar Silver Star. Maybe I'll give it a shot sometime. :)
interest is good but.... really the PS1 version is so much better. Phantasy Star 4 is definitely worthy of the game collection tho. ;)
I bought Arcana and Shining in the Darkness when they were first released and this is probably the only instance where I liked the Genesis game over the Super Nintendo game where both games are so similar. There was also a Turbo Grafx game called Dungeon Master that should be mentioned also but it would be a distant 3rd in my opinion. I had a Turbo Grafx system back in the 90's but they didn't have too many RPG's for the system. In fact the only good RPG for the Turbo Grafx system was Neutopia 2 and the game was a Zelda clone.
Awsome awsome video Daria so good loved every comparison
You spoony bard!
Being a former SNES kid, I still have yet to play the Sega RPG gems. It was great to see other Sega titles I've never heard of before. Great video!
Surprisingly well done video. I've played most of the games you covered and the comparisons totally work.
Happy to see you agree, I've gotten some surprisingly angry comments from other viewers :P
This is a well-conceived comparison. Subscribed.
Randomly saw a shortcut for your Chrono Trigger PSA, which mentioned this video. Suscribed :D
What an excellent, refreshing video. Great job.
Thanks! I had a lot of fun making it
As an old school SNES guy I really appreciate this video. I got my first Genesis at a yard sale a couple of years ago and I'm always looking for good games
Oh sir you are in for a world of fun with that system ;)
Genesis is an underrated RPG machine (well, by SNES fanboys/fangirls anyway. Thankfully I like both consoles, like any sane person should ^_^). It didn't have as many RPGs in the "good" bracket as the SNES, but it had damn close to as many ones in the "excellent" bracket. Phantasy Star 2, Phantasy Star 4, Shining Force and Shining Force 2 are such a quatuor of masterpieces, I legit believe that they're as good as the best Squaresoft RPGs of the era (and depending on your tastes, you might prefer them). Just phenomenal games. And I say this as someone who grew up a Nintendo kid and played all the Square RPGs, and have amazing memories tied to those experiences. I'm probably the biggest Square SNES-era rpg fan that you know. But my friend back then had a Genesis and the 4 games mentioned above. And I was so damn fascinated by them, completely hooked. We even incorporated characters from those 2 franchises in our D&D campaigns. That tells you how captivated we were by them.
Add to that a super solid SRPG in Warsong, that one can almost hang with the four above (sadly, the other Langrisser games weren't brought over the west, same with the Dragon Slayer ones. Althought some of them have fan translations now). And the best version of Shadowrun, and Phantasy Star 3. And add the Sega CD library to that (which I consider fair game) and you have even more choices.
I won't include Landstalker, Crusader of Centy, Ys III, Arcus Odissey, Exile and Cadash in the list, as although they are awesome games, I don't like to include action-rpg in there.
Wow that is a really well thought out comment. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! I love your channel btw. I always enjoy hearing you talk about rpgs. And hearing about people's gaming memories(the real life context in which they experienced a game) is my fave part of retro gaming, so your channel scratches that itch too!
Awesome comparisons. I'm very fortunate to have played almost all these title's all though not to completion. Wonderful wonderful games.
OMG your voice is soooooo relaxing love your narration
OMG!!! Thank you for this video! I grew up with snes and was a RPG nut and now I got me an old Model 1 Genesis. Been looking for Rpgs for the system and This totally hit the nail
Putting Chrono Trigger with Lunar is brilliant! Both have that light, colorful feel with likeable casts.
Thanks! That comparison has made so many people angry, glad to see someone who can appreciate the method to my madness. (:
´love your channel i just discovered it (subbed inmediately of course), you have great insight on the topics you choose and have a knack for choosing interesting stuff to talk about... congrats and keep up the good work!!!
Never played a single "Phantasy Star" game up until 2009 after I bought a copy of "Sega Genesis Collection" for the "PSP"!!
The series left a Great impact on me and it easily became my new favorite RPG franchise ever!! LOVED the series world, lore, character cast, art direction, gameplay, soundtrack, etc. it's one of those games that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside!!(> w
Some of them did feel a bit like a stretch, but I'll wholly admit to idolizing the SNES I bought in the early 90's and still play today (although mostly the new SNES classic as the pixelation is less noticeable on modern TVs). That said, I loved NBA Jam, Madden '95, Shinobi: Return of the Ninja Master, Sonic 2, STREETS OF RAGE 2, Desert Strike, TMNT and Rocket Knight - among others.
So from one SNES buff to the Sega community I shared some love with, I don't think it matters all that much what system you preferred as long as you loved it dearly.
Great video. As a genesis owning kid, I was always so jealous of everyone with a SNES and their amazing RPGs. It was only when I was older and played those games that I realized how special Sega’s RPGs were (and genesis Shadowrun will always be better than SNES for me)
Ok so I had to comment during and after.... This was so important to make and you nailed it. People always are amazed that I haven’t finished Chrono & Mana etc. but I had a Sega so it was Phantasy Star all day at my house. I really didn’t know anyone with both systems. You were on one side of the fence or the other. Great comparisons. On Earthbound, its just fine but always seemed a lil overrated IMO due to rarity and value. This is a monster podcast topic in the making. If you’d ever like to hop on the Talkin Retro podcast with CaptNRetro & I and dig deep on this subject, we’d love to have you.
Yeah I'm not the biggest Earthbound fan, but it's hard to deny that it IS different. And given how much people really love that game it didn't feel right not mentioning it at all.
Just came across this channel, and already like the content. Nice work!
Wow, I am legit an RPG neophyte in comparison. I need to play all these and finish the ones I haven't. Other than that, this channel is awesome and I've now subbed.
Might have to try some of these Sega rpgs. Good video!
You can burn sega CD games btw, there is no copy protection.
You just need to find a working affordable Sega CD first :P
3:55 Hey thats me in the corner!!! For real its like someone made a pixel art of me (thats why its my avatar) I love the video. Love to see PS1 RPGs get in the mix on this. Kings Field (1 and/or 2) would of fit perfectly in the dungeon crawler comparison (Arcana and Shinning In The Darkness). Ive been trying to find Shadowrun for SNES for a decent price (25-30 cart only)for my brother but no luck. Subbed