The Truth Behind the Hindenburg Disaster - MythBusters - S04 EP3 - Science Documentary
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- MythBusters Adam and Jamie take on the infamous Hindenburg disaster, investigating whether the cause was the chemicals painted onto its skin. Building scale models, they cover them with identical paint, testing the burn rate. Meanwhile, Tori, Grant, and Carrie tackle the myth of escaping a crocodile by running in a zigzag pattern. They construct a rig with a dummy and lure crocodiles to see if the myth holds true. Action, explosions, and shocking revelations await in this thrilling episode of MythBusters!
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i just love the line "We could have burned two Hindenburgs by now. And we are not even a quarter of the way through this" if you take it out of context lol.
27:14 "You make the prettiest noises" 😅
He tried...
Wild. 36 fatalities and some spectacular newsreel footage basically ended a potentially viable air transport option.
Imagine; flying, floating, cruise ships (Ignore the logistics, just imagine them)...
They days were already counted for Zeppelins, even without the Hindenburg disaster, for the same there arent any ocean liner anymore, airplanes.
In the interwar period the Zeppelins had the advantage to be able to cross the atlantic faster than a ocean liner, after WW2 airplanes could cross the atlantic even faster, within hours instead of days and cheaper on top of that.
Zeppelins werent "cruise ships" they were "Ocean liners" in the sky.
I wouldn't exactly say it was "viable" .
Compared to the the ocean liners of the same time, airships were already the less desirable mode of travel. Doomed to fail.
Far less passengers. Less than luxurious accomodations. And SUPER expensive. The only advantage was speed, which was soon to be outclassed by propeller airplanes.
@@wolf310ii there are still ocran liners.
Director: "Jamie, say ok as if you are very excited even if you already know the method"
Jamie "Ok :D"
3:24
The "blur" and "blur" was potassium permanganate and glycerin
Thanks. I hate when they do that sh_t.
or a sparkler .. right?
@@taekwondotime Insurance and liability are expensive things.
@@MMuraseofSandvich But any student with a background in chemistry will easily know this. Plus, it's not like any of these ingredients are commercially available. You can't walk into a hardware store and buy this stuff. And *IF* you could buy it at all, it would require a special licence and some level of clearance from government.
In other words, the FBI would have you on a list of people who are allowed to purchase a small amount of this stuff for scientific purposes.
@@taekwondotime pretty sure you can buy potassium permanganate as it is used in fish maintenance to kill some parasites/bacteria. Also you can buy it at hardware stores as it is used for water maintenance especially if you have a well. It is also widely used on movie props as it creates a very good patina in some mixes.
For glycerin again just go to your local pharmacy or even in your hardware stores. You can get it in some food stores as well as it is widely used in the food industry.
Neither of those components requires any licence to buy.
A very rare moment in MythBusters at 16:37 "We don't just want an explosion"
27:16 "you make the purtiest noises"
Uhhhhh not creepy at all lmfao
27:15 "You make the prettiest noises". Oooookay... Weird that on a shot with more than one crocodile, the handler in the red shirt is the creepiest thing on screen.
Thank you 🤢 I audibly cringed when I heard that. Rank.
Came to find this comment 😂 i bet she was crawling in her skin
yeah, what the actual fuck
Calm down. Imagine if a woman said the same to a guy. Would that have been "creepy" and "cringe" and "what the actual f..."? No, obviously not. Then why the hypocrisy? You act as if women are poor fragile little things which have to be treated with kid gloves all the time due to the inherent hypersensitivity of the female. That's way more demeaning.
@@cube2foxTHE FEMALE!!!! Lol ferengi ass
Thanks for letting me watch Mythbusters agian because it's an important part of my childhood, so really thanks
UNBLUR ALERT: 4:30 the larger blurred bottle is glycerine, the smaller one is potassium permanganate. If these chemicals are mixed, they will self-ignite. (This information is for theoretical consideration only.)
Or you can just use magensium stips. Those chemicals are not used in the making of thermite anyway, they were only used to light it up.
@@SeftakMagnesium ribbon doesn't always work for igniting thermite unless the powdered ingredients used are extremely fine and thoroughly mixed. The thermite used for welding rail lines is made of much coarser powder than is used in lab experiments, which is why rail workers typically don't use magnesium for the ignition source. Sparklers are much more reliable because they actually contain a solid oxidizer, so burn much hotter than magnesium ribbon and the section buried in the thermite pile keeps on burning.
Commercially available flash pyrotechnics or model rocket igniters (aka electric matches) are another option, because you can set these off electrically from a safe distance just by running a thin piece of 2-core bell wire. For school science lab demonstrations, my chemistry teacher mixed up his own "fuse powder" mixes to make thermite ignition more reliable - these were usually a mixture of magnesium powder and either barium peroxide or silver nitrate. The latter type can be ignited by a drop of water, so you can use a water pistol at a distance as your ignition source, which adds to the fun.
Ha, I've just written that but without seeing either the bottles or your comment. I knew from prior experience of the two. Though I didn't know they got hot enough to ignite thermite.
@@John-yf8qh, yes they do and I think Wikipedia article about thermite lists this mixture as one of the ways to start the reaction. Surprised me as well, didn't think the heat of glycerine-permanganate reaction can be comparable to burning magnesium.
Thermite is used every day on railways and streetcar/light rail systems for welding rail. They use the same mixture of iron oxide and aluminium oxide, but instead of two blurred-out chemicals, they ignite it with a welding torch. :)
Sparklers work too or magnesium ribbon
Glycerin and potassium permanganate 😁
What ever happened, it’s insane how fast it burned. It took like 30 seconds to be totally engulfed. How?
Hydrogen is extremely flammable, the skin appears to be highly flammable, and the metal structure was Aluminium which when hot enough can also get nasty.
Everything contributed to making the entire vessel a huge fire hazard in every way possible. Assigning blame to any one part the structure just seems pointless to me, once anything set any part of it off, the rest would necessarily go up almost immediately afterwards.
29:25: The "reptile" that happenstance is an archosaur, seems a little pissed-off by the previous treatment. I believe that they are actually not very stupid, they're just hungry now and then. Besides that: I wonder why they (the humans) believe that an archosaur that has the gap taped shut, would like to have some snack in plastic bags.
its a crocodilian, Archosaurs are extinct! Modern paleontologists define Archosauria as a crown group that includes the most recent common ancestor of living birds and crocodilians, and all of its descendants. but as a whole, they're extinct
They are surprisingly clever and opportunist, they eat when they get the chance for minimum energy wasted. They fully know difference between 2 people behind glass even and can learn commands, the female I worked with knew "come, back up, stop". But they are never tame or a pet.
Re: Tory running in front of the crocodile. Was the insurance company aware of this part of the production?
Are you such a non-risk person, growing 300 years old, but seen NOTHING of this world, because, oh God, it is so dangerous to leave your house?
@@voornaam3191where in the comment did they say that they thought it was too dangerous?
I’m disappointed that they didn’t build a full-size Hindenburg.
Dude , Hindenburg is freaking huge and it took like 5 years to build 1 . It's impossible for them to build multiple just to burn down to test various result plus burn down something that huge it may bring more trouble 1 way or another
@@ventusgale6203 I’m being facetious.
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7:13, am I the only one seeing a typo?
Could it be the case that the crocodiles just could not be bothered? they are presumably well fed and do not need to go out of their way to get food.
The 3rd blimp is about what would be required for the paint-theory to be true.
The blur can be substituted with a single sparkler btw.
"Next in Discovery, the world's deadliest piñata" Hahahahahaha
pretty sure wild ones would be a different story. crocodiles and alligators can run like 30km. only reason it would chase you is to kill you since your in it's territory cause it doesn't want you there
Which edit is this? Kari testing the stockings strength and Adam's disaster narration weren't in the original 42 minute US broadcast. I know Australia and/or the UK got longer versions.
In Poland there was some long versions too, including this episode
Less ad breaks in other countries
Its the original cut seen on DVDs and in some countries with less commercials. The 42 minute cuts were done by Discovery themselves.
we gonna talk about the editing mistake at 7:06?
They've got the label under the footage of the burn swapped so it looks like the cotton burned faster
Why oh why do they light the fire on TOP of the squares and on TOP of the blimps? Heat goes up, does NOTHING, basically. This is so weird, do these Mythbusters WANT to bust this myth? It looks like they do, not really setting fire to this thing, finding the worst way to set it on fire. Well, thanks a lot.
Right? What if the fire started at the base of the blimp for real? Then it set the hydrogen on fire and you suddenly have 100 % of the blimp on fire in less than 3 seconds...
@@Seftak Yep, that's true. In that case the Hindenburg would have had a bit worse of a disaster. From flying to whistling down in notime. Better not have a hydrogen fire, they took along a huge amount.
I've no idea if they discussed or not, but if we consider their tests for the squares I think that fire goes down in a more predictable manner than when it goes up. Also easier to time when the process is slower. But probably they should have tested both ways.
A more interesting experiment would be to test what caused the ignition. In the original footage too many frames are missing...
to be fair, the surface area needed to kick off the full reaction would not have been very large on the full ship, so i can see that the crew did not notice that one minute it took to cook off.
the more reaction the more surface area. and the quicker it goes.
I wish they had tested a cloth blimp with hydrogen. That would have truly shown how much the hydrogen alone contributed.
The cause of the Hindenburg-disaster was that it was built to fly with helium, but US didn‘t deliver it. Thus it had to fly with hydrogen what it never was planned nor designed for…they should have tested whether with helium there would have been any burn…
How long hydrogen stay inside after skin burn open? They feeded it from bottle.
Yeah, they should really have filled it up and closed the valve. So once the hydrogen has combusted their is only the very flamable skin burning.
10:19 Sounds like my first 3 dates!
According to wiki it is No. in series #70, No. in season #1, "Hindenberg Mystery" overall No. #83
1st episode of season 4, not 3rd.
Or maybe it already burned a little before, and the acceleration (hard burning etc) was -1min.
saw a video recently abut what actually did happen or how it started ... and yes it was a rip that was leaking hydrogen and a spark from surface charge on the outside cover as it flapped inside and passed close enough to the interior frame to allow a spark to jump and then it was unstoppable
and yes it was the rope that was soaked enough to be the ground conductor for the spark gap generator
the video abut the landing rope that grounded the ship was on a channel like veritasium or smarter everyday ... it along with this video would be the perfect back to back watch
That wasnt a test of the skin at all, it was a test of whether or not hydrogen is flammable, and we've known its flammable for over 250 years, instead of comparing the historical skin to some alternative material they could have used theyve used the historical skin in both tests and the only variable is hydrogen vs no hydrogen..... congratulations, youve proved hydrogen is flammable!
Very little damage was done by the hydrogen itself, since it immediately disapered upwards. This is well known from free balloons as well, I knew a fellow balloon pilot that hit a power line with his hydrogen balloon. He was fine, but claimed that was what caused his baldness… I did fly a small advertising blimp many years ago and there was no end of Hindenburg jokes, scares and other things sent to us…. It was then believed that the brunt of damage was from burning kerosene falling down to the ground from engines/fuel systems. Experiments seemed to discount the thermite. As an engineer I have worked with various thermites, they are rather hard to ignite but very energetic once ignited. Copper oxide termites may even go bang. The Al iron stuff as for welding usually will not burn in thin layers, it depends a lot on particle size etc. The mixture with various grades of nitrocellulose is however a different animal, the crackle in modern fireworks is very similar.
At first it seemed that the experiment was a failure, then suddenly when flames are intense enough the thermite reaction kicks in. The fire just had to get large enough for the thermal feedback to work. This was the sudden onset without any flammable gas. In my mind the hydrogen somehow ignited and helped the fire quickly getting hot enough to ignite the fabric. That probably explains the extremely quick destruction of the envelope. The films from the experiment and reality have some eerie resemblance. I think that due to scale factor and the creation of hot spots, the thermite at full scale is a stronger contribution than the conclusions in the clip gives it credit for. But as said, most people survived, perhaps a better outcome than if a modern airliner burns on the ground…But that horror movie and politics ended the era.
No irony was involved in this experiment, just coincidence.
Blur is potassium permanganate. Blur is glycerin.
just thought of sumting , maibe the hindenburg had parts made from magnesium in the frame
sum ting wong?
35:48 Crocs (V shaped head) are evil MFs. Gators (U shaped head) are cool.
Really could have done with a 4th blimp - what if we had a blimp treated with a less reactive dope but still with hydrogen?
The answer seems obvious, but it seems important to the comparison
A simple cotton or plain aluminum buterate dope, just to see what no thermite does.
For those wondering, the blur and blur are glycerin and potassium permanganate. but you can also ignite thermite with a magnesium strip.
Don't come crying to me when you burn your house down, ok?
43:53 the Hindenburg 3 has an unlimited source of hydrogen that the original Hindenburg did not have.
There's no way they pumped enough hydrogen to fill that blimp in 30 seconds. Also there's a delay from the start of the fire to when they started pumping it in, where as in reality the hydrogen was ignited first, so the flame would've started with the boost from the hydrogen.
What is a fact is that a tiny Hydrogen tank in a car, if it leaks or even fully cracks, would lose it's hydrogen, and it would spread so quickly so far, that it would not explode or even burn. It's very hard to keep Hydogen IN something. So using the Hindenburg as an arguemnt against that is kinda silly. It's not more dangerous that petrol.
Now liquid Hydrogen in rockets is a different topic. But also because it leaks out of everything, it's never used for long term storage or long space missions.
Also crocodiles are lazy bastards.
You can find videos of hydrogen tanks burning as they vent. I don’t know here you heard they can’t burn, but that’s straight up misinformation.
27:17 yet another geek gets a crush on Kari. Yes…. I also had a crush on her.
Watch pilot-episode no. 2 to see her in bikini. She had a very yummy backside back then 😊
480p 👍
How did they find in insurance company that said yes to that crocodile thing?
I wish the third one was filled with helium to compare how much worse hydrogen made things
Man, who would've known Crowley worked as an alligator wrangler before becoming a crossroads demon and King of Hell.
27:14 Hes damn right 🤣
What I want to see is where and when American decided aluminium must be butchered to aloomunum
Apparently aluminum is actually older, and it was changed to aluminium later
You'll get an answer when you learn to use punctuation, chav.
I’m in North America and have been wondering the opposite. We only spell it Aluminum here and so I always wonder why ppl overseas add an extra I sound in there
Jesse. im made of helium jesse im bouta slpode like a mofo in two thousand and late
I am the first one to comment here😎
Nope, they had to dealite privius coments due to them being full with nerds that comented first
Aluminium ffs also "i see dead people"
Blur one is potassium permanganate, blur two is glycerin/glycerol.
My dumbass thought it was a breaking bad episode.