The full rotation is all messed up, I get what you are trying to do but its way better if its: 1- Mother’s Nature 2- L. infusion 3- Selfless Diffusion 4- D. mark 5- Quickfire 6- Nimble Leap 7- Quickfire 8- Thundercloud 9- Throwing Knives (This is where sefless diffusion should run out if it ran out before you are too slow, and you should have about 2 seconds more of L. infusion allowing you to stack with barrage once more) 10- Barrage 11- Thundercloud --------- An even better version (Fatal Stigma instead of Barrage, Cleaving Moonlight instead of Shadowstrike) 1- Mother’s Nature 2- L. infusion 3- Sefless Diffusion 4- Fatal Stigma 5- D. mark 6- Cleaving 7- Quickfire 8- Thundercloud on 20 stack 9- Throwing Knives 10- Cleaving 11- Quickfire 12- Thunderbomb Just make sure you have these specs: - Cooldown on thundercloud - Reset Cooldown on Nimble (not necessary for the rotation, but almost essential to the build as its your primary source of dps outside of the full rotation) - Also make sure you hit all throwing knives before sefless diffusion runs out so you reset the cooldown of thundercloud
@@___m16 I’m talking about PvE obviously… for PVP you can use impartial immunity that nimble leap gives, and Selfless diffusion removes CC, I don’t think you follow a “rotation” like this one on PvP
@@___m16 big skill rotations aren’t meant for pvp, especially for xbow/dagger… the main thing Xbox/dagger should be doing is going invis and use the combo around their huge aoe attack… rinse and repeat every minute
@@ZColdBloodZ I know the first version I wrote has no fatal stigma, but I don’t understand why “getting close is dangerous” and also having barrage and thundercloud and shadowstrike, if you really wanna stay away just play Recoil shot instead of Thundercloud and Merciless Barrage instead of Annihilation
Talking purely pve, I ran this similar to this (poison) but then i switch to thunderstorm clapping and actually incorporated the moonlight and its such a difference, just dont brother with 15% increase and just do two attack in the row, thunder clap and bail. Really good.
poison is good when you use selfless basically if you corrected the rotation you have infinite weaken and cd reset of the skills. Thunder is for burst damage
Hello thanks for the video and build link in addition to that build gear could you put an achievable / farmable gear version of this build as an alternate just untill one can get the gear ? I checked the gear some are farmable and craftable but some are probably gonna be way too rare to get. Wolf mask is from guild raid / conflict event which is real difficult to get, wolf gloves are from a world boss that comes once a week and pretty rare from that boss (queen ballandir). For the jewelry(rings, necklace and belt) i have a question i see that we can just buy the lithographs from auction house (aside from belt they are 300-600 gold but belt is 12k lucent) and craft via senior crafter but is there a way to farm these lithographs or we just gotta buy from ah and craft it ?
Hi man, thanks for the guide! i have that epic crossbow with Crit chance, crit damage and added atk speed traits, is this good? because i see you put heavy attack damage i dont know if i messed up my traits.. thank you!!
Heavy attack is technically the best damage stat in the game. It doesn't matter that much on 1 item, it's just super min-max. You can always convert at a later time.
@@mikedang3613 Seeing as xbow/dags only get Heavy from 3 sources, Weapons and mastery, it definitely matters not having it on one item. Weapons should be heavy , crit , hit. But yea I 100% agree, it can be converted so it is what it is.
subbed i just got both weapons the dagger and rex's i'm loving it but this build is nice i've gone gale and poison though. I will try the lightning build ty
Not pay to win at all, i was thinking that before playing it. Now i'm at 70 hours+, pay to fast yes but as every mmo are now, but not p2w. + you have to put MASSIV amount of irl money for little progress so, most of the player wont do it.
Not realy getting your first set of purple is east maxing traits isnt. And best gear is all purple raid boss drops. Some of the best gear are sets and require raid bosses. You never maxing traits for that. And a max trait blue gear is better than any untrated purple gear. It pretty much is pay to win.
@@timothyfloyd3269 There is few strategies for maxing purple traits, i let you discover them, and it's not that hard. Best build don't require full raid boss gear (got only the head for my build for example, and you can change it and adapt the build for a cheaper version, you don't loose much...ofc if you want the best itemization possible, it will take time, it's a mmo)
He is right. You should do between 8-24k after you proc mark with thunderbombing. Norm you do: mother,lightinf,quick, leap, diff, mark, quick, leap, quick, shadow, knifes, thunder, quick, leap quick, barrage. :-)
This class is ruining pvp. It takes 0 skill and basically has a iwin button built in. Group pvp is so much fun until one of these tryhards shows up and ruins it. The class is broken and if you play it, that says a whole lot about the kind of gamer you are.
You dont understand how difficult it actually is to pull it off and get kills dive bombing into a group of people that actually know how to play the game. 80% of the time you are either getting insta CCed and dieng immediately or getting tossed into the air from random bow tornadoes before you can even get into the group. If youre always getting decimated by suicide bombers then thats a skill issue on the groups part.
Zero Skill? I don't think so.... It takes critical thinking and time to get it right. If you mez up the rotation, you're dead. In my honest opinion you pick the class you are good at but you probably not good at it. Do more research on your class then we'll talk.
This game is no mmorpg... no mmo got pay for insta level bs... in GOOD mmorpgs there was no such thing as the (best class) obviously there is no diversity with this game an it ruins players who want to be creative with there builds knowing that its already going to be subpar..for what its worth this game seems like one giant cash grab... another failed shit mmo... the traditional mmos offered alot of diversity and anything could have been goood depending on the player and not just some youtuber ruining the experience for everyone.
@@nattysupersoldier3642 damn dude. How about we try some commas next time. I don’t think you play this game honestly. It’s not a bad game. I just think you’re having bad luck. Give it a shot and maybe stop looking on TH-cam for videos. Wouldn’t that solve your problems. Either way. Goodluck and bless
@@GunghoGunsGaming based on your reply you clearly didnt get what i was saying but either way the game is more of a solo experience than what a true mmo should be for any true mmo player they would get what am saying.,
@@nattysupersoldier3642 I gotta disagree with you homie, You are very clearly NOT a true MMO player if you think that traditional MMOs offered diversity. There is and has always been a meta that's is parsed to all hell and considered the best for both PvE and PvP , players can choose to do something else, and will underperform. No amount of player skill can make a shit build good, that isn't how the games are designed. For example, Reckful kitted out in full mage gear with a hodgepodge of talents was not going to beat other top players simply because he was amazing. Do I agree with this gentlemen's rotation and or some of his choices, no , But none of my disagreements on his take would lead me to side with anything that you said as truth. You seem angry and under educated on the game (and mmos) as a whole. While I do think youtubers are often mislead or post builds that aren't optimal, Good players use these as a way to see what other people are doing and don't take them as gospel. It's up to each player to understand what their class does and make adjustments. Lastly if you think this is a solo experience, you are not playing the same game as everyone else, this game encourages group play far more than most other mmos on the market currently , That's not fanboying that's a fact.
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HERE IS THE LINK BUILD - questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en-nc/character-builder/ThornyShooterOfTheOrigin?build-id=407727
Where is the weapon mastery i checked the link
The full rotation is all messed up, I get what you are trying to do but its way better if its:
1- Mother’s Nature
2- L. infusion
3- Selfless Diffusion
4- D. mark
5- Quickfire
6- Nimble Leap
7- Quickfire
8- Thundercloud
9- Throwing Knives
(This is where sefless diffusion should run out if it ran out before you are too slow, and you should have about 2 seconds more of L. infusion allowing you to stack with barrage once more)
10- Barrage
11- Thundercloud
---------
An even better version (Fatal Stigma instead of Barrage, Cleaving Moonlight instead of Shadowstrike)
1- Mother’s Nature
2- L. infusion
3- Sefless Diffusion
4- Fatal Stigma
5- D. mark
6- Cleaving
7- Quickfire
8- Thundercloud on 20 stack
9- Throwing Knives
10- Cleaving
11- Quickfire
12- Thunderbomb
Just make sure you have these specs:
- Cooldown on thundercloud
- Reset Cooldown on Nimble (not necessary for the rotation, but almost essential to the build as its your primary source of dps outside of the full rotation)
- Also make sure you hit all throwing knives before sefless diffusion runs out so you reset the cooldown of thundercloud
And then get cc locked into oblivion 😂
@@___m16
I’m talking about PvE obviously… for PVP you can use impartial immunity that nimble leap gives, and Selfless diffusion removes CC, I don’t think you follow a “rotation” like this one on PvP
@@___m16 big skill rotations aren’t meant for pvp, especially for xbow/dagger… the main thing Xbox/dagger should be doing is going invis and use the combo around their huge aoe attack… rinse and repeat every minute
He explains in video, stigma and cleaving both require to get close. Yes it does more dps but as a glass cannon, getting up close can be risky.
@@ZColdBloodZ
I know the first version I wrote has no fatal stigma, but I don’t understand why “getting close is dangerous” and also having barrage and thundercloud and shadowstrike, if you really wanna stay away just play Recoil shot instead of Thundercloud and Merciless Barrage instead of Annihilation
What about the weapon mastery chart I didn't see it in the video
Talking purely pve, I ran this similar to this (poison) but then i switch to thunderstorm clapping and actually incorporated the moonlight and its such a difference, just dont brother with 15% increase and just do two attack in the row, thunder clap and bail. Really good.
poison is good when you use selfless basically if you corrected the rotation you have infinite weaken and cd reset of the skills. Thunder is for burst damage
@@khaeld091 i was talking about moonlight attack that you skipped that I find really strong. As I said, I already opted out of poison
@@nero9305 oh yes my bad I comprehend it wrong.
Does it matter which weapon is in slot 1 or 2 in this build? I.e offhand weapon ?
yo! How can you counter this class in GVG?? 4 man party destroyed our backline last rifstone.
Guns, so glad you crossed over the 10K subscriber. Congratulations!!!! See you on Ways of Winter.😊
Hello thanks for the video and build link in addition to that build gear could you put an achievable / farmable gear version of this build as an alternate just untill one can get the gear ? I checked the gear some are farmable and craftable but some are probably gonna be way too rare to get. Wolf mask is from guild raid / conflict event which is real difficult to get, wolf gloves are from a world boss that comes once a week and pretty rare from that boss (queen ballandir). For the jewelry(rings, necklace and belt) i have a question i see that we can just buy the lithographs from auction house (aside from belt they are 300-600 gold but belt is 12k lucent) and craft via senior crafter but is there a way to farm these lithographs or we just gotta buy from ah and craft it ?
Ambidex passive is very important for dps btw...
SO YOU USE PVP BUILD FOR PVE TO ?
Hi man, thanks for the guide! i have that epic crossbow with Crit chance, crit damage and added atk speed traits, is this good? because i see you put heavy attack damage i dont know if i messed up my traits.. thank you!!
Heavy attack is technically the best damage stat in the game. It doesn't matter that much on 1 item, it's just super min-max. You can always convert at a later time.
@@mikedang3613 Seeing as xbow/dags only get Heavy from 3 sources, Weapons and mastery, it definitely matters not having it on one item. Weapons should be heavy , crit , hit. But yea I 100% agree, it can be converted so it is what it is.
Where is the link for the build!
hello!! link from questlog? thanks for the video!!
Thank you for showing where you can see the thundercloud bombing stacks, i wasn't able to get a clear answer for this until now.
First🎉
You said you did around 20k dmg... where is the dmg? 3k max...
If you do the rotation fast enough and stack thundercloud bombing to 20 quick enough it will do anywhere from 17-26k. But you gotta be quick.
subbed i just got both weapons the dagger and rex's i'm loving it but this build is nice i've gone gale and poison though. I will try the lightning build ty
How long did the daggers take to drop? I've done over 100 runs of cave and nothing!
@@awkw4rdjoke i got the lequiris one's i haven't see the rex daggers yet lol I did get the xbow from the boss drop though
can u put end game gear?
@@dominikpaluch141 shoot did I not link it. Give me 5mins
Good hybrid but it’s not the best. This is coming from constant under 40 second gate of infinity boss kills on NA
What's the best?
Then tell us what is the best. Lol. Comments like these are useless. No additional information, no proof, just a bunch of “trust me bro”.
He probably uses cleaving and fatal stigma. Does highest dps
complete pay2win, full purple traits and full purple gear ??!!! right….
Not pay to win at all, i was thinking that before playing it. Now i'm at 70 hours+, pay to fast yes but as every mmo are now, but not p2w. + you have to put MASSIV amount of irl money for little progress so, most of the player wont do it.
Not realy getting your first set of purple is east maxing traits isnt. And best gear is all purple raid boss drops. Some of the best gear are sets and require raid bosses. You never maxing traits for that.
And a max trait blue gear is better than any untrated purple gear. It pretty much is pay to win.
@@timothyfloyd3269 There is few strategies for maxing purple traits, i let you discover them, and it's not that hard. Best build don't require full raid boss gear (got only the head for my build for example, and you can change it and adapt the build for a cheaper version, you don't loose much...ofc if you want the best itemization possible, it will take time, it's a mmo)
useless for pvp
wrong rotation .
@@manoseisa1987 I don’t think so
He is right. You should do between 8-24k after you proc mark with thunderbombing.
Norm you do: mother,lightinf,quick, leap, diff, mark, quick, leap, quick, shadow, knifes, thunder, quick, leap quick, barrage. :-)
@@p_zum_aul agree to disagree
@@p_zum_aul an you write this a little cleaner I’m gonna try both
This class is ruining pvp. It takes 0 skill and basically has a iwin button built in. Group pvp is so much fun until one of these tryhards shows up and ruins it. The class is broken and if you play it, that says a whole lot about the kind of gamer you are.
How is the skill any different from another class rotation? It’s so ez to counter with stuns
You dont understand how difficult it actually is to pull it off and get kills dive bombing into a group of people that actually know how to play the game. 80% of the time you are either getting insta CCed and dieng immediately or getting tossed into the air from random bow tornadoes before you can even get into the group. If youre always getting decimated by suicide bombers then thats a skill issue on the groups part.
Womp womp cry more I got 29 kills and 31 assist at Malakar today with my spin to win felt great
I have a skill issue so everything that kills me is OP I'm not the problem
Zero Skill? I don't think so.... It takes critical thinking and time to get it right. If you mez up the rotation, you're dead. In my honest opinion you pick the class you are good at but you probably not good at it. Do more research on your class then we'll talk.
This game is no mmorpg... no mmo got pay for insta level bs... in GOOD mmorpgs there was no such thing as the (best class) obviously there is no diversity with this game an it ruins players who want to be creative with there builds knowing that its already going to be subpar..for what its worth this game seems like one giant cash grab... another failed shit mmo... the traditional mmos offered alot of diversity and anything could have been goood depending on the player and not just some youtuber ruining the experience for everyone.
@@nattysupersoldier3642 damn dude. How about we try some commas next time. I don’t think you play this game honestly. It’s not a bad game. I just think you’re having bad luck. Give it a shot and maybe stop looking on TH-cam for videos. Wouldn’t that solve your problems. Either way. Goodluck and bless
@@GunghoGunsGaming based on your reply you clearly didnt get what i was saying but either way the game is more of a solo experience than what a true mmo should be for any true mmo player they would get what am saying.,
@@nattysupersoldier3642 please. For the love of god. Use commas. And not true.
@@nattysupersoldier3642 I gotta disagree with you homie, You are very clearly NOT a true MMO player if you think that traditional MMOs offered diversity. There is and has always been a meta that's is parsed to all hell and considered the best for both PvE and PvP , players can choose to do something else, and will underperform. No amount of player skill can make a shit build good, that isn't how the games are designed. For example, Reckful kitted out in full mage gear with a hodgepodge of talents was not going to beat other top players simply because he was amazing.
Do I agree with this gentlemen's rotation and or some of his choices, no , But none of my disagreements on his take would lead me to side with anything that you said as truth. You seem angry and under educated on the game (and mmos) as a whole.
While I do think youtubers are often mislead or post builds that aren't optimal, Good players use these as a way to see what other people are doing and don't take them as gospel. It's up to each player to understand what their class does and make adjustments. Lastly if you think this is a solo experience, you are not playing the same game as everyone else, this game encourages group play far more than most other mmos on the market currently , That's not fanboying that's a fact.
WHY DID YOU EVEN COME TO THE VIDEO THOUGH. THATS WHERE IM CONFUSED