I agree with a lot of your list. I think it's more spot on than Pinzos. Obviously don't agree with everything but I think all your explanations are well thought out.
I've been wanting to build Kwang with double Tainted and Stonewall for the huge mitigation bonuses, but that means dropping Flux Matrix, World Breaker or Elafrost. Will be interesting to see what opportunities the six item update will open up for builds.
He definitely has his good match ups in the high elos! Only need to be careful that once you start to face more and more experienced players, they will have more ways to counter you. But a good starting pick to help you get into this role!
I think your explanations and everything are great however I'm not sure if its because of my match ups or where I'm at in my elo but Sparrow still seems to be a very easy match up for me, can easily take a Kahimera late game solo
Just played the game on console two weeks ago and khaimera is insane for how simple he is. 9 times out of 10 im hard carring the game. His lvl 2 gank is so potent. Super snowbally
Fey needs buffs . I use her and have gotten so far to plat with her. But she needs her 2 either to go farther or for her vines to speed her up and slow others down like overprime. Overprime had a much better version of fey.
She does not need a buff at all. She just got one in the recent patches where her secondary ability has increased damage. She has one of the best team fight ults in the game, really good early-mid game lane pokes with her secondary (which is on a base 4 second cooldown), great & safe wave clear with her alternate, and good scaling. If you hit your skill shots, you can bully most mid laners.
Friend, I agree about Fey needing love. I don't agree with comparing those two games though. There's a reason people leave smite for Predecessor, and OW players are eyeballing Overprime.
Great video, I just have one question though, you mentioned elos/diamond/ranked several times but I don't see ranked mode on the PC version? Does consoles have ranked mode and PC doesn't or am I just stupid and missing the button to queue up in ranked? lol
The rank I am referring to is omeda.city where they have their own rough estimation of a player's rank. It is a decent way to see where you are at, but it not a 100% accurate system
Grim carry would have a solid spot if the mid and supp are physical. Rn we dont have great physical mids/supps (other than wraith) and people arent aware of the power of rampage and grux supp. I play on PC, but started playing on PS5 to play with a friend, and the amount of players who swear they know what characters can be played in what roles is wild lol. Any time they see a greystone jg, wraith mid, argus supp.. or God forbid a rampage/grux supp they lose their minds and instantly start chatting in the draft lobby. Just so we're clear.. there is a difference between an off-meta pick (like dekker mid, howitzer carry, serath solo) and a troll pick (think murdock solo, narbash jg, morigesh supp). Also, meta pick that play out of there intended role (Greystone jg, wraith mid, argus supp)
I mostly agree, but I honestly think Grim is one of the worst picks for Carry at the moment. His hit box is massive, he has PAINFULLY slow move speed with no mobility and he does less damage than most other picks do. I really don’t see a reason to play Grim at all. That being said maybe some of the new items being introduced next patch will make him make more sense. Who knows
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Great list man, great explanation of why you're placing them where younare toonl
Joe: this is just my opinion.
Joe's audience: I will live and die by this tier list.
Tier lists are always fun to watch, because everyone has a completely different opinion.
ill wait until aurora and wu kong coming they gonna be good
Wait is wukong really making a comeback?
@@watsonsucces9175why would he not?
aurora was so fun in paragon
Aurora def, only thing I'm looking forward to with Wu Kong is his movement, he's gonna be a split pushing demon 😭
As someone who enjoys jungle across mobas, I welcome people running belica and Argus mid, they are sooo much easier to kill than a Gideon.
I agree with a lot of your list. I think it's more spot on than Pinzos. Obviously don't agree with everything but I think all your explanations are well thought out.
Tbf pinzos wasn’t a normal tier list.
I've been wanting to build Kwang with double Tainted and Stonewall for the huge mitigation bonuses, but that means dropping Flux Matrix, World Breaker or Elafrost. Will be interesting to see what opportunities the six item update will open up for builds.
Good explanations appreciated it.
Awesome video. I’m still new to the game and play grux mainly. lol I know noob pick. But he is strong
He definitely has his good match ups in the high elos! Only need to be careful that once you start to face more and more experienced players, they will have more ways to counter you. But a good starting pick to help you get into this role!
very instructive and comprehensive
Let Grim rocket jump with his primary skill and he'll be better.
I just started playing this game, instantlly I can tell you're god mode.
Great list man!
Been having a great time using crunch support (only one that doesn't feel boring to me) , he may not be the best bug goddamn is he fun to use
I use Argus 😂 makes 4 easy kills for my carry
I think your explanations and everything are great however I'm not sure if its because of my match ups or where I'm at in my elo but Sparrow still seems to be a very easy match up for me, can easily take a Kahimera late game solo
pinzos list was so bad lol i was waiting for yours
Sparrow S tier lmao
Just played the game on console two weeks ago and khaimera is insane for how simple he is. 9 times out of 10 im hard carring the game. His lvl 2 gank is so potent. Super snowbally
Fey needs buffs . I use her and have gotten so far to plat with her. But she needs her 2 either to go farther or for her vines to speed her up and slow others down like overprime.
Overprime had a much better version of fey.
She does not need a buff at all. She just got one in the recent patches where her secondary ability has increased damage. She has one of the best team fight ults in the game, really good early-mid game lane pokes with her secondary (which is on a base 4 second cooldown), great & safe wave clear with her alternate, and good scaling. If you hit your skill shots, you can bully most mid laners.
Friend, I agree about Fey needing love. I don't agree with comparing those two games though. There's a reason people leave smite for Predecessor, and OW players are eyeballing Overprime.
@@Kreauoverprime is gone
@@chriselliott403 You cannot bully most mid laners if the enemy jun is paying attention, which they do at higher elos.
@@shaye1444 exactly that, most bullying happens because the jungle doesn’t know how to play his roll and then it starts to snowball
I have to disagree with Howitzer he pumps out so much damage and he can be really hard to dive on to
Great video, I just have one question though, you mentioned elos/diamond/ranked several times but I don't see ranked mode on the PC version? Does consoles have ranked mode and PC doesn't or am I just stupid and missing the button to queue up in ranked? lol
The rank I am referring to is omeda.city where they have their own rough estimation of a player's rank. It is a decent way to see where you are at, but it not a 100% accurate system
@@JoeYoursTruly Ahh okay, thank you!
So basically all the heroes I like are C or C-S 😢
It’s funny cuz if you know how to build those characters and good positioning. That pretty cracked actually. 🤣
Hey Joey👋🏾
Do you think you can do a video explaining all the heroes that should be buffed. Starting with the lowest pick rated characters🙏🏾
item tier list? pretty plz?
unpopular idea: teir list if the heroes aren't allowed to use ultimates 😆
Tf… So a list where they can’t use their whole kit…? What sense does that make?
Grim carry would have a solid spot if the mid and supp are physical. Rn we dont have great physical mids/supps (other than wraith) and people arent aware of the power of rampage and grux supp. I play on PC, but started playing on PS5 to play with a friend, and the amount of players who swear they know what characters can be played in what roles is wild lol. Any time they see a greystone jg, wraith mid, argus supp.. or God forbid a rampage/grux supp they lose their minds and instantly start chatting in the draft lobby.
Just so we're clear.. there is a difference between an off-meta pick (like dekker mid, howitzer carry, serath solo) and a troll pick (think murdock solo, narbash jg, morigesh supp). Also, meta pick that play out of there intended role (Greystone jg, wraith mid, argus supp)
Damn, nothing has changed since zarus release..feelsbadman.
I mostly agree, but I honestly think Grim is one of the worst picks for Carry at the moment. His hit box is massive, he has PAINFULLY slow move speed with no mobility and he does less damage than most other picks do. I really don’t see a reason to play Grim at all.
That being said maybe some of the new items being introduced next patch will make him make more sense. Who knows
Kallari is the goat
Matchmaking the worst it’s ever been none of this matters
Useless tier list
Ok buddy