Thanks for the video! We used a shield with the plastic hinges a number of years ago. Unfortunately repeated teardown of our stage set-up meant that the plastic hinges did not stand up to the wear and tear. I'd recommend going with the metal hinges if it needs to be moved often.
If your setup is any wider than ours you might consider adding another panel or two. Just keep in mind that an even number of panels will mean that you have a joint right in the middle (if that matters to you).
You need to put the drums on the side and pointing in diagonal (2 or 10 o’clock, depending on the side you choose). That men right there’s it’s barely touching that drumkit. But the final solution it’s going for a e-drum kit.
Any thoughts on how this might work in our church with an electronic kit? Our drummer hits so hard that the sound of the stick hitting the “hats/cymbals” comes in over the music. We added front fill’s which helped in the front but the noise still over powers the PA. We can crank the PA but then it’s too much for the congregation. Any thoughts will be appreciated. Thanks
@@scottlandefeld8693 It is possible and I know at least one church that has a tight, busy and loud stage who uses foam mic windscreens to some avail. The top shelf also is good. One other way is to use a dynamic EQ on some of the higher frequency range.
Good video. What kind of sticks does your drummer use when playing? Also, do you guys have a video about mixing drums for a live stream service? Our drum mix is lacking in our live stream.
Our drummer uses Maple sticks: sweetwater.sjv.io/LKXWxM We use a post-fader bus mix for our live stream, so it's important that they sound good in the room, and don't require a ton of shaping that won't translate well on the live stream. Then you just adjust the levels in the live stream (for us, that usually means boosting the drums in the stream). You can see if this convo helps: th-cam.com/video/CwYBwNQHm_8/w-d-xo.html
What makes it lacking? In a post-fader mix bus solution (which Collaborate Worship recommends) are you mixing your levels enough into the stream or is it something else? What I do is send drums to a stereo bus for stream only. There, I add further compression and EQ and they don't sound too bad online. Depends on how prevalent you want your drums to sound. It's hard to know what you need by saying "lacking" but I have to guess they are too quiet, soft and non-impactful online. While boosting drums in the online feed - also boost your speaking/pastor mics as well. Make it so a listener does not have to adjust volume when the event goes from band to speaking. For us, this means boosting speaking mics by at least 9 to 10 dB.
You'd just have to hear it in person 🤷♂. Difficult to translate with room mics. If you look at the dB, the peak drops by 3dB with each addition of shielding. That's huge in the 90s, and accomplishes what we needed it to do. Drop the peak levels...
He was not playing hard, but playing at a good volume. Most important part of the example was consistent playing for each example which he did. You can safely assume that the results in dB reduction would be the same at louder volumes.
@@88omarzhe’s just hitting softer bc they’re in really small space. If he hit harder it would just be all drums and everything else would be drowned out
Thanks for the video!
We used a shield with the plastic hinges a number of years ago. Unfortunately repeated teardown of our stage set-up meant that the plastic hinges did not stand up to the wear and tear. I'd recommend going with the metal hinges if it needs to be moved often.
Makes sense. Thanks for sharing your experience for others!
How many panels would you recommend for a 7 piece drum set?
If your setup is any wider than ours you might consider adding another panel or two. Just keep in mind that an even number of panels will mean that you have a joint right in the middle (if that matters to you).
You need to put the drums on the side and pointing in diagonal (2 or 10 o’clock, depending on the side you choose). That men right there’s it’s barely touching that drumkit. But the final solution it’s going for a e-drum kit.
Drums to the side won't work for us, and he's playing appropriately for the room.
Any thoughts on how this might work in our church with an electronic kit? Our drummer hits so hard that the sound of the stick hitting the “hats/cymbals” comes in over the music. We added front fill’s which helped in the front but the noise still over powers the PA. We can crank the PA but then it’s too much for the congregation. Any thoughts will be appreciated. Thanks
It should help a little bit for sure.
Need to add foam windscreens to those mics. Would reduce the bleed more than the shield. Also aging a top shelf to the EQ on the mics.
Windscreens are for wind. They won't do anything to help with bleed.
You should try it. Don’t get hung up on the name as they can serve multiple purposes.
@@scottlandefeld8693 It is possible and I know at least one church that has a tight, busy and loud stage who uses foam mic windscreens to some avail. The top shelf also is good. One other way is to use a dynamic EQ on some of the higher frequency range.
Hi thanks for the info
I'm looking to try them some day for my church aswel.
Please presonus and behringer wings which is much more preferable?
We haven't used the Presonus, but we recently installed the Behringer WING at our church and it's great!
Good video. What kind of sticks does your drummer use when playing? Also, do you guys have a video about mixing drums for a live stream service? Our drum mix is lacking in our live stream.
Our drummer uses Maple sticks: sweetwater.sjv.io/LKXWxM
We use a post-fader bus mix for our live stream, so it's important that they sound good in the room, and don't require a ton of shaping that won't translate well on the live stream. Then you just adjust the levels in the live stream (for us, that usually means boosting the drums in the stream).
You can see if this convo helps: th-cam.com/video/CwYBwNQHm_8/w-d-xo.html
What makes it lacking? In a post-fader mix bus solution (which Collaborate Worship recommends) are you mixing your levels enough into the stream or is it something else? What I do is send drums to a stereo bus for stream only. There, I add further compression and EQ and they don't sound too bad online. Depends on how prevalent you want your drums to sound. It's hard to know what you need by saying "lacking" but I have to guess they are too quiet, soft and non-impactful online. While boosting drums in the online feed - also boost your speaking/pastor mics as well. Make it so a listener does not have to adjust volume when the event goes from band to speaking. For us, this means boosting speaking mics by at least 9 to 10 dB.
Wont dont you place the drums to the side on the corner? Plus that drummer doesn't hit very hard. Is he the normal drummer?
Drums to the side of the stage won't work for our room. And he's hitting appropriately for the room. He's one of our drummers.
Sounds no different to me
True
You'd just have to hear it in person 🤷♂. Difficult to translate with room mics.
If you look at the dB, the peak drops by 3dB with each addition of shielding. That's huge in the 90s, and accomplishes what we needed it to do. Drop the peak levels...
was your volume turned up lol?
This drummer was barely playing. Can’t really tell if this works. But seems like it works for yall.
He was not playing hard, but playing at a good volume. Most important part of the example was consistent playing for each example which he did.
You can safely assume that the results in dB reduction would be the same at louder volumes.
This is CCM my bro, not gospel chops 😅
😂
@@prettysimplemusic right I play for ccm and even there we hit the drum harder than that.
@@88omarzhe’s just hitting softer bc they’re in really small space. If he hit harder it would just be all drums and everything else would be drowned out