Yknow what is the saddest part? 10 years ago we used to see the deep web as the worst of the worst but nowadays the surface web is just as bad. People literally commission animal cruety videos on discord or telegram, and these apps are available for everyone of any age, its genuinely depressing.
I think the most terrible people in the Nth room case are the buyers or men who gave the operators of Nth room private information about their daughters and wives for access in the Nth room. And most, if not all, didn't get punished or anything.
@@smittenmittens1364what's wrong with you people? Can't someone have their own beliefs? God loves everyone & I don't see why that upsets you. Does unconditional love and happiness make you uncomfortable?
So over a thousand counts of creating, owning and distributing cp was worth a 40 year sentence? Wtf why was it so light, 40 years should be the minimum for every member of these rooms.
I agree. A lot of CP criminals never get harsh sentences and when they get out so many are left to do whatever. The case of Jacey Dugard is a perfect example. A pedo kidnapped her and kept her hostage for 18 years. Several times the Pedo's probation officer and other cops visited his residence or were called there and they somehow never found her in his backyard. It was disgusting. Him and his wife are rotting in prison now but it's another example of how these people get away with it for so long
I wouldn't be surprised if the court was lenient regarding his sentence because he gave them enough information to catch thousands of other perpetrators. He might not be getting the time he deserves, but he helped making sure thousands of others do.
What’s crazy is, watching Korean news cover this, you could see some of the footage from these rooms ( but they hid the faces of the perpetrators… which cause mass protest and I think this guy was the first guy to have his identity revealed ( I might be wrong) but the nth room stuff was insane in korea cause so many people were connected including celebs etc and very rich people were customers. Even worse was these kids were blackmailed into filming the abuse assaults or up,leading their own stuff while being watched.. it’s f up.. Korea has a lot of f up stuff
Ive been stationed in korea for 2 years I've seen some wucky stuff my first day off camp Humphreys I saw a dude get hit by a taxi, the taxi didn't even stop it just kept going and the dude just fell back to earth unconscious, I didn't have a active phone or the number to emergency services and NO ONE ELSE SEEMED TO CARE they just drove around the dude till he got up, called someone and collapsed on the sidewalk
Different parts of the world have different cultures, and people believe in different things than we do, and think differently than we do. It's horrible for sure, and that doesn't make their points of view right, but that's just the way they are over there.
@@phoneywheeze that's not what encryption means, Telegram is indeed encrypted by default, the secret messaging chat simply keeps that chats device-specefic, If you start a secret chat with someone on one of your devices, this chat will only be available on that device.
There's also the South-Korean case of The Burning Sun. Not sure if you ever heard of that too, Mutahar? Where a man got beaten up, tried to call the cops on this club and then a whole illegal nsfw system got exposed. Lots of extremely illegal activities and even celebrities participated in it and got arrested. Same illegal chats etc.
@@antagonist4823 I mean, women are fed up. They want it to be taken seriously and feel that unless they involve men in their deepfakes, the government will do absolutely nothing.
I thought ive seen it all until I heard about the nth room. 😂 the shocking part is that S.Korean men and some outside of Korea paid to watch some of it.. movie turn to real life sht
I am glad you don't demonize the encrypted messaging apps. I watch a lot of Predator Poachers videos and the way he talks a lot of times you would think the only reason anyone has Signal or Telegram is because they are pdf files, it kind of annoys me.
There has to be similar groups operating in every major country, i remember reading about similar but smaller rackets from time to time. Like :" Hey i'll buy you a new phone if you send me pics" then the blackmailing starts. A shame there are so many depraved individuals willing to pay for this kind of stuff.
Hey Muta, what's even darker is that some of the admins in the those rooms were were in active duty soliders who took private information of female ctizens' out and blackmailed them.
Hey Futa, what's even darker is that some of the admins in the those rooms were were in active duty soliders who took private information of female citizens' out and blackmailed them.
This was so f up because he worked with kids.. and volunteered for kid organizations it was so f up because people discovered all the guys in charge were so young,
If you ever want to scare your kids into not talking to random weirdos on the net, show them the movie Dee Snider's "Strangeland". I'm not usually freaked out by movies, but this one definitely freaked me out.
I think the saddest part is how young some of the people who consume this type of stuff are, like 13-15. No wonder they grow up to do heinous acts. It starts with curiosity and ends in depravity. This is why I'd be a total hawk of a mom when I have kids, I'm not going to let the internet in all it's disgusting glory mold my child. Change starts with the next generation and if this trend of feeding kids brain slop doesn't stop we're gonna have this happen more and more...
my kids are not going to be allowed to use the Internet until they are 18 no public school, either. More kids are sexually assaulted in public school than anywhere else.
@@Robbie-mw5uu Glad you do that and I agree that the internet should be only for adults. Came across some really disturbing stuff even when googling the most harmless stuff. Sadly this doesn't prevent it either; especially once kids get older and hang out with other people. And then there is "social contagion". They see what other kids do, or even become friends with the wrong kind of people. And also agree that schools suck too! Beside SA, there is also violence. Heard that people experience the most violence in their lives during their years in school (and someone that got bullied I can talk from experience here). And most of the stuff we learn there is useless and indoctrination. I think it is mostly a societal problem. Notice over the time people have become more aggressive and stressed.
What I hate was when I learned this story, some guys were okay for their actions and thought no jail should be given. They said "they were being men not little kids. Don't punish them. I was like "WTF, you'd be in prison doing this".
the misogyny culture (yes, it's a culture, it's big enough to not be just considered an issue) in KR is fkn insane. I've only got involved in KR made videogames and dramas last year and it was enough for me to witness multiple "incidents" against female creators or just random women on the street, it's insane
2:16 muta egyptian here, there is a sad case that happened here a couple of days ago that went viral and basically its about a person from thr gulf ( mega rich) who convinced a guy here to abduct a kid and snuff him and cut him up on video for him for 5 million egp and then ironically he scammed him by saying to get the payout do it again but thankfully he got busted as the rotten smell of the boys body was leaking and he got arrested and they're trying now to arrest the guy who ordered the hit snd the connection between them in Kuwait 4:15
i saw Rotten Mango cover this in great detail awhile back and I remember feeling so gutted and hopeless in a way I've never felt before. highly recommend for those interested in the case. their coverage is incredibly respectful to the victims and has a lot of nuance
Exactly, its way more than just sharing minor pics. There was torture, there was waaaaaaay more stuff than just minor pictures and content. Its a wilder case than it was shown here for sure! But hey, brought it up back when so kudos but yea, way worst stuff happened there in those rooms. Just horrible horrible
What makes me so viscerally angry is that most of the time, these idiots target people who are already struggling in life & instead of them helping someone in need, they decide to benefit off of that individual’s suffering. Only monsters are capable of doing something so depraved & weak.
There’s an 80’s short movie called Shake Hands With Danger. Literally just a safety video that shows all the horrible accidents that can happen when working with heavy equipment.
For the opening spiel, I feel like the CLEAR net has become its own rabbit hole for a lot of people, because most people just browse the same few websites, plus storefront sites. Just browsing outside of algorithms is becoming a lost art in itself, and a lot of the sites & communities on the surface Web just stay unknown now because they're outside of the social media & commercial spheres. There are a bunch of Web forums out there like Agora Road or Cloudy Skies or Brahkie Boards that live like they're outside of people's reach, just because people don't really surf the Web anymore. You have like the sites on Tilde Town & NekoWeb, people link from indie-web spots like Neocities or Melonland that just lead you down a rabbit hole, or even old TH-cam videos like the VSauce "Do Online Now Guys" series just lead to places people don't really make the effort to find anymore. The people interested in dark Web browsing are probably growing that same sort of distance from the surface Web, so I think this type of thing can branch out from being solely about dark-Web finds.
I see a lot of people recommending the rotten mango video's about this topic. I watched them when they came out and they were pretty shocking. So after watching I did some searching online and found out the numbers in the videos (and title too) are way off. So just a heads up. I don't think they're the best when it comes to fact checking.
also she is just so over the top. either acting over emotional cuz she used to be really badly disrespectful or just making a topic 30 mins longer than she should have cuz she repeats and repeats and repeats herself...
The part that really infuriates me is the fact that the main guy responsible (Cho Ju-Bin) got 42 years in prison, which was 3 years less than what he was given in the first trial, which was already much less than the life sentence the prosecution was aiming for. That's way too light imo. Compared to the lifelong trauma and suffering he inflicted upon his victims
It is a major problem in Korea. The punishments are too light. People are always calling for it to be more severe. And I feel like its being reaching a breaking point recently.
ANYTHING involving little ones or animals, I will NEVER tolerate, I could never stomach, or destroy my soul looking at that stuff, and I've seen a LOT of the worst parts of humanity online over the years. I pray every day for those who are trapped in these situations and hope they escape and heal from the ordeals. Edit: Uh-oh, looks like a firery but mostly peaceful protest is going on here with this simple comment I made😂
@@RanEncounteranimals can’t understand Hegel or Nietzsche, and they certainly can’t comprehend most if not 99% of our works, they don’t have the logical brains that we do, and most aren’t as complicated as us emotionally, even with the exceptions, they don’t live nearly as long as we do and in nearly every aspect they are lesser beings than us. We aren’t the same in any way, this is a terrible take used by people controlled by their emotions, or doomers who unironically hate humanity, meaning you either love animals too much of you hate humans too much, to be honest they are rather mutual and compliment each other.
I know this seems very black and white but if you have telegram I am going to automatically assume you are into some shady shit. I've never heard of it being used for just texting your family or friends online
The worst and absolutely most horrifying part of these rooms is the Mothers/Fathers that share ''content'' of their own children.... Some people just dont deserve to procreate
Should note that these sick people didn’t target any minor. They targeted the already unstable ones, so these minors also didn’t want to tell their parents when they did realize they got blackmailed. That’s why it took longer to discover these rooms
@@lololollololol629 maybe but jus like case where 19yr old date 13yr old like how?! Where did y'all meet? How did y'all start dating? Cuz typically a 19yr old doesn't hang out where 13yr old are at u know what I mean
It's sickening how the availability of hardcore corn on the internet for the past 2 decades has caused such desensitization to people that makes them "crave" for more, which results in such depraved actions.
@@ProtossOP yeah as a good person I cannot understand how people are so into making this stuff besides drug addiction warping their mind. I mean I understand making material so you can make money off it. But the people who do this because they're passionate about it... I don't understand.
It’s truly horrific what was done to the victims of the nth rooms. Anything mentioned in this video is only the tip of the iceberg. I would recommend the videos from rotten mango if you want to know the specifics, she also gives some cultural context.
You have to put the whole thing into perspective. South Korea has only 50 million citizens. That means, 200.000 users in those rooms is almost 1 in 200. And they never really prosecuted the users. Just imagine that. You know exactly that 1 out of 200 people was involved in this. And if you assume that most users were men and men make up only half the population, that means roughly 1 out of 100 men was involved. And they just still walk around free. No one knows who they are, and law enforcement just doesn't care.
No matter what social or religious differences countries may have, every country can at least agree that exploiting children is wrong and should work together at stopping things like this.
Watched a documentary once called PDF next door. They interviewed one of the detectives whose job it is to trawl through the hard drives of these people. Tens and tens of thousands of images and videos, and she had to label them on a basis of severity and trying to Identify these kids. I couldn’t even imagine the horrors she would be witnessing. She pointed out that some of these vids were dated 10 plus years old. These poor kids have been where they are, suffering god knows what for 10+ years and they’re still anonymous. Thousands and thousands of them. It’s just horrific.
I'm pretty sure there's a website for normal people to help identify children in videos or images like that, pretty sure I seen it on this channel even.. Yeah that sounds like a horrible job to do, going through images or videos like that...
I've known about this situation, thanks for covering it, too. And sure, YT is a bit centric at times, so it's good creators like you touch on what happens on other corners of the world.
I saw the two-part series of this case from Stephanie Soo (Rotten Mango). She did a great job covering the details and humanizing the journalists, victims and authorities who were subjected to their atrocities. I highly recommend her series on this if anyone else is interested. She also has a team of Korean translators to better contextualize sources. Not saying this video isn’t great. It is. Rotten Mango just wemt further in debt if this video intrigued you and you want to learn more.
I use to browse with the dark web with TOR as well when I was a freshman in college (very long time ago) and also cause out of curiosity. And Red Rooms were one of the craziest myths back then. I didn't stumble into one, fortunately because I gotta admit, the hearsay about red rooms is just crazy. Even just thinking about it is making me sick to my stomach.
My stepdaughter's personal information got leaked on Telegram last week by some guy who didn't get what he want. People even showed up to our house. But good luck talking some sense into kids these days, it's really hard. 😂 In my country, but I expect it happens everywhere there's a ton of these so called 'expose' groups around with thousands of members, mostly frustrated young men from a certain cultural background, I know that's risky to say these days but It's obvious and true so I think it should be called out as it is. Anyway, they terrorize mostly minors and if they get what they wanted or they didn't, it doesn't really matter, they just dump their personal details in one of those chats. It's a big problem over here right now and it pisses me off big time.
i never really thought abt it but it does make sense the most illlegal stuff happening are on popular chat messaging apps bcs theres no fear of like clicking a malware its just something on the getgo
This happens in Brazil on Telegram and Discord. They call it "panelinha" (not the only meaning of this word) here. One guy doing stuffs like that was nicknamed King and he got arrested a while ago. There is a guy called Mistério TV that investigate and persecute people that does that.
My mom used to say, in reply to my fear of funeral homes, deceased, and the possibility of ghosts: "It's not the dead you have to worry about. It's the living." I no longer fear those things as they can't hurt me/aren't real, but I sure as shit keep my eyes on the humans in this world.
It's funny. Snuff isn't the definition you used, but your not wrong. It's that the definition was broadened because the original definition outside of conspiracy theory conventions doesn't exist. The og term referred to a murder being committed & filmed for pornography to be packaged & sold. While plausible the reality is even the sleazy 70s porn industry wasn't going to do something that risky. As a porn producer of the time noted why would we take the risk & expense of murder rather than you know fake it, which would be cheaper & the customer would never know the difference. But the concept of Snuff lived on both because horror films immortalized the concept & because while no one would take this action for profit, there are no shortage of sick people who film they're crimes. Then of course you have fatal accidents & news footage. While no sane man would risk producing a snuff film, if you wanted to see a human become a corpse the footage was out there already legal for alot of it. Then the Internet happened. I explain this because I feel the Red Room has had a similar journey. Sure the actual idea as originally described isn't real or at least we can't prove it, but sick sh*t like absolutely. Just as serial killers made snuff real by filming it themselves the same is now true of streaming.
yanno, the radical feminist movement in S KR started making sense when shits like this happens. most of the users go unpunished. slow police response. men distributing materials involving his own wives and daughters.
[redacted] films are NOT an urban legend unfortunately. There is an Australian man in prison in the Philippines for a variety of crimes he committed to sell the videos including forcing an 11 year old to literally dig her own [redacted] before [redacted]. This man was associated with a profitable website which also paid someone to abduct and [redacted] a little girl in Russia. The world is full of incredibly evil people who have enough money to make their unhealthy fantasies a reality. The world is also full of animals who will do literally anything for money.
People move the goalposts often when discussing the definition of a snuff film. In reality, videos of people killing people for profit are incredibly accessible and not hard to find on the surface web. You might not easily find a dressed-up high-production film in a studio funded by elites (that we know of), but you can find common people doing the most horrific things you've ever seen to each other with a Google search.
CP is awful, the way these people find the capacity to torture other human beings like this is awful, but comparing this to mythical online snuff rooms is kinda...
Ok anyone who didn't understand what "high water posts" mean, they mean explicit or almost horny posts. We compare the level of violence, gore, sex etc with "water levels"
Have you seen one of the recent posts on your subreddit? It is about a child exploitation ring here on TH-cam by Filipino "gaming" channels. It reminds me a lot of this story, about how that horrid content is easily accessible on the clear web. I agree it's pretty terrifying.
Nth room is a result of people looking for alternatives to prawn that was banned.. and things got more n more violent, from pin hol cameras to revenge prawn to well red room like stuff
Even if porn was legal this would still happen since this shit is happening in countries where porn IS legal Disturbing fact A lot of CP DVDs/magazines that enters Japan comes from Germany , A few well known Mangakas were caught ordering CP from Germany - Shit Japan has legalised Loli-porn ,yet they still seek the Real thing Also there was that massive raid on that German brothel that housed a lot of Japanese, Korean, Chinese , Vietnamese ,Taiwanese girls who were trafficked to Germany If I remember correctly some of the girls were in there early teens Italy had its own Nth room like thing There have been quite few revenge porn cases in countries where its legal , I knew a few major ones here in the UK So no its not because Porn is Illegal.
it feel like now a days if you ask for privacy its like why what are you tryna hide in the case of gov no privacy for you its for your own safety feels taboo or maybe im using that word wrong anyway theres people who can do you harm with your information.
I agree. It shouldn’t be that way. Unfortunately, WE the People are being Encroached on. And young people don’t typically seem to care about things as important as “privacy”
@@johnnylego807 Young people who are aware care. The issue is that a culture ruled by social media and corporations has been grooming people to be less and less cautious with their information to make it easier to collect. It's a total flip from the lectures my generation (older Z) were given about internet privacy and having classes about how to use computers safely and efficiently.
Japan and South Korea are a heaven for PDF Files, it's everywhere. Can't ride on a single bus without a dude not keeping his hands by himself, same with schools and other public facilities.
And this utter insanity is becoming more common as peoples "appetites" as sick and foul as that sounds, become more and more extreme. Reports from a similar case (Listen to Darknet Diaries Episode 131 (heavy content warning)) had these guys starting on pretty vanilla stuff and upping the ante until nothing could get them off anymore expect stuff like this. There is edgy shit on the internet, and there is inhumane in the purest sense of the world. I don't need to tell you what category this case and similar ones fall into.
Without the context, "forced them to eat bacon" is such a strange phrase to hear as an american. "Don't you dare wrap that around a jalapeño filled with cream cheese. Nooooo!"
You should do a piece on o9a, tempel ov blood and 764 It's crazy what that Kyle Spitze guy wound up doing after the initial video of him getting shot went viral Very weird rabbit hole
Kids… KIDS did this. Stephanie has a couple of videos on this subject and it’s horrid. One can’t help but wonder if a certain case happening in Florida has something to do with this, seeing as the perp used the app as recently as the night that little girl’s life was taken.
I think you are under selling how many people were using the rooms. 260,000 people is about 1 in 5 men from the entire country. People in political power were using these rooms. Also you only say 'some' minors, there were rooms dedicated to only minors, hundreds of them, these men would trick underaged girls into sending explicit pictures for money then threaten those same girls with those pictures saying if they don't do more explicit, and self tortu re on video and send it they would send the videos to their familys and friends.
I'll never forget a dude at my school getting pulled from class. He'd been bragging about how he'd been watching Red Rooms, he'd paid money to watch (Which apparently he had! 🤦) He did describe some of what he'd seen, could've been actual real life Gore tbf, something like Funky Town maybe? Unfortunately there was many different stories about how he'd spent nearly a grand on his Mums credit card, the bank notified his Mum & it went from there. He'd paid for someone to do X, Y, Z to a young girl yada yada. Never totally sure of the legit story but he 100% spent A LOT on his Mums Card for apparently nothing or access to gore videos (She warned other parents) & the police talked to him about what he'd been bragging about.
The channel called Rotten Mango covered the godgod & "the doctor" cases in gruesome but suitable for work detail. I have no idea how people can get to that point...
there was a case in egypt this week where a man g utted a minor and filmed it under command of another minor to "post it on the dark web for money" this phenomena of red room are seriously the worse myth that ever came out of the internet
i remember when the SK gov took action on nth room, and it was before even nth room got in to the eyes of public through journalist that i started hearing rumors about "The Rooms" that existed not only in SK or JP even in multiple other countries and as the rooms are partial online or aren't even online it's near impossible to track them though internet. Also the red rooms does exists, they don't operate how people think though there are so many myths attached to them, i haven't heard about HD streaming ones as that's probably a myth, but there might exist some with low quality streams, the ones i've heard about is "personalized videos" or "commission" under a time limit if you know what i mean, yes it is that bad I forgot to mention its not limited to SK or JP, it exists nearly everywhere in the world
Saw that stupid tiktok shit with bears vs men and the women picking bears. Thought it was stupid but after seeing this vid I kinda can understand why some women would pick a bear over a man considering the worst a bear can do is kill them while a man can do something like this nth room shit...
Hard to listen to but if people are interested stephanie soo covered this and she worked with translators. It's very nsfw and can be more than a little upsetting.
If MUTA!!! Listened to Causal Criminalist, he'd know that Snuff films are VERY REAL, and have easily been around since the early 70s. Fucking ordinary gamers these days ;)
Another example is element/matrix. It’s similar to telegram as in its very hard for law enforcement to identify criminals. I remember seeing one room that was very obviously a CSAM room with 10,000+ users. It’s extremely revolting and sad. I’ve never heard anyone talk abt the problem before and it honestly feels like it’s just swept under the rug.
Yknow what is the saddest part?
10 years ago we used to see the deep web as the worst of the worst but nowadays the surface web is just as bad. People literally commission animal cruety videos on discord or telegram, and these apps are available for everyone of any age, its genuinely depressing.
Not to mention the cp links
It really is like the warp except without the magick
One of those people
Nah that is pretty cool
it's just RL now under a microscope!
I think the most terrible people in the Nth room case are the buyers or men who gave the operators of Nth room private information about their daughters and wives for access in the Nth room. And most, if not all, didn't get punished or anything.
What the heck! 😢
God loves you all
@@dizo-jp2td he does not love you
@dizo-jp2td God and I were drinking and picking up men last night when he told me that he detests you specifically. Sorry man, shit sucks.
@@smittenmittens1364what's wrong with you people? Can't someone have their own beliefs? God loves everyone & I don't see why that upsets you. Does unconditional love and happiness make you uncomfortable?
"VHS files" has the same energy as when a friend of mine called a book a "physical PDF".
but ur friends actually hilarious for that 😭😭
Reminds me of "August underground" vibes. Digitally recorded but made to look like vhs
🤣
So over a thousand counts of creating, owning and distributing cp was worth a 40 year sentence? Wtf why was it so light, 40 years should be the minimum for every member of these rooms.
Korean
@@dibel3669I thought they were conservative? Guess “liberalisml has infected there society.
I agree. A lot of CP criminals never get harsh sentences and when they get out so many are left to do whatever. The case of Jacey Dugard is a perfect example. A pedo kidnapped her and kept her hostage for 18 years. Several times the Pedo's probation officer and other cops visited his residence or were called there and they somehow never found her in his backyard. It was disgusting. Him and his wife are rotting in prison now but it's another example of how these people get away with it for so long
God loves you all
I wouldn't be surprised if the court was lenient regarding his sentence because he gave them enough information to catch thousands of other perpetrators.
He might not be getting the time he deserves, but he helped making sure thousands of others do.
What’s crazy is, watching Korean news cover this, you could see some of the footage from these rooms ( but they hid the faces of the perpetrators… which cause mass protest and I think this guy was the first guy to have his identity revealed ( I might be wrong) but the nth room stuff was insane in korea cause so many people were connected including celebs etc and very rich people were customers. Even worse was these kids were blackmailed into filming the abuse assaults or up,leading their own stuff while being watched.. it’s f up.. Korea has a lot of f up stuff
People always talk about how S. Korea and Japan and how "cute" they are, totally ignoring how twisted and perverted they are.
Ive been stationed in korea for 2 years I've seen some wucky stuff my first day off camp Humphreys I saw a dude get hit by a taxi, the taxi didn't even stop it just kept going and the dude just fell back to earth unconscious, I didn't have a active phone or the number to emergency services and NO ONE ELSE SEEMED TO CARE they just drove around the dude till he got up, called someone and collapsed on the sidewalk
Different parts of the world have different cultures, and people believe in different things than we do, and think differently than we do. It's horrible for sure, and that doesn't make their points of view right, but that's just the way they are over there.
@@vvkay The point of that comment is to show the more real-life, non-glossy side of popular countries promoted by their PR departments
@@vvkay I guess the point was that people praise and fetishise these countries, while in reality they are just like everybody else.
_"What scares me is what humans can do to each other..."_
Greed is the doom of humanity.
And money.
@@GM-Shenmue Money falls under the term greed.
@@GM-Shenmue I mean yeah, Money = greed
God god never did it for money
I don’t think greed was the motivator or currency here
fun fact. Telegram groups are NOT encrypted and the police CAN get your information as long as you are using telegram in a group messaging
telegram by default is not encrypted unless you're using the secret messaging chat
If possible, I would like to know more. Any other tips would be greatly appreciated 👍👍
Police should not be allowed to read your private messages
Its still more complicated than that
@@phoneywheeze that's not what encryption means, Telegram is indeed encrypted by default, the secret messaging chat simply keeps that chats device-specefic, If you start a secret chat with someone on one of your devices, this chat will only be available on that device.
There's also the South-Korean case of The Burning Sun. Not sure if you ever heard of that too, Mutahar? Where a man got beaten up, tried to call the cops on this club and then a whole illegal nsfw system got exposed. Lots of extremely illegal activities and even celebrities participated in it and got arrested. Same illegal chats etc.
오 년도 지난 시점에 나온건데 여성판 n번방 수근거리니까 최근에 한국 뉴스에서 헐레벌떡 들고온거요? ㅎㅎ
@@antagonist4823 I mean, women are fed up. They want it to be taken seriously and feel that unless they involve men in their deepfakes, the government will do absolutely nothing.
Mutahar slapping us with another nostalgic dark video😭
fr bro ahahah, i thought this instantly
You know things get dark when he sets his screen to solid red
Why are you crying? Tf is this
God loves you all
Those were the days
Rotten Mango podcast has two really good videos on the nth rooms if anyone wants a deeper dive into them!
I'm subbed to her channel. Think I might have heard of this maybe?
Yeah, I like how she narrates it.
@@EclipseSeth I agree. She has long videos
I thought ive seen it all until I heard about the nth room. 😂 the shocking part is that S.Korean men and some outside of Korea paid to watch some of it.. movie turn to real life sht
@@killuazoldyck4742 life's getting more crazy nowadays. Worse, most of everything bad happens on the regular web.
I am glad you don't demonize the encrypted messaging apps. I watch a lot of Predator Poachers videos and the way he talks a lot of times you would think the only reason anyone has Signal or Telegram is because they are pdf files, it kind of annoys me.
Lol PDF files
@@sai2849you probably cant get the real word through youtubes filters.
There has to be similar groups operating in every major country, i remember reading about similar but smaller rackets from time to time. Like :" Hey i'll buy you a new phone if you send me pics" then the blackmailing starts. A shame there are so many depraved individuals willing to pay for this kind of stuff.
God loves you all
If I remember correctly Italy had something VERY similar. I think in fact it was related to the Nth room
Hey Muta, what's even darker is that some of the admins in the those rooms were were in active duty soliders who took private information of female ctizens' out and blackmailed them.
Hey Futa, what's even darker is that some of the admins in the those rooms were were in active duty soliders who took private information of female citizens' out and blackmailed them.
To be fair, in Korea is mandatory to join the military for 4 year i believe. So even all of the buyers were soldiers at one point.
@@20eyesmisfit They said "active duty" my guy.
This was so f up because he worked with kids.. and volunteered for kid organizations it was so f up because people discovered all the guys in charge were so young,
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If you ever want to scare your kids into not talking to random weirdos on the net, show them the movie Dee Snider's "Strangeland". I'm not usually freaked out by movies, but this one definitely freaked me out.
I love that movie
Stay away from Captain Howdy!
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I think the saddest part is how young some of the people who consume this type of stuff are, like 13-15. No wonder they grow up to do heinous acts. It starts with curiosity and ends in depravity. This is why I'd be a total hawk of a mom when I have kids, I'm not going to let the internet in all it's disgusting glory mold my child. Change starts with the next generation and if this trend of feeding kids brain slop doesn't stop we're gonna have this happen more and more...
They’re not just the consumers. Many of these groups are run by kids. Probably the most notorious active mixtape maker online is a teen
One of many reasons why I don't have kids. Could possibly become one of those monsters.
my kids are not going to be allowed to use the Internet until they are 18
no public school, either. More kids are sexually assaulted in public school than anywhere else.
all you need to do is be a good parent thats it. You dont have to be a biological deadend.
@@Robbie-mw5uu Glad you do that and I agree that the internet should be only for adults. Came across some really disturbing stuff even when googling the most harmless stuff.
Sadly this doesn't prevent it either; especially once kids get older and hang out with other people. And then there is
"social contagion". They see what other kids do, or even become friends with the wrong kind of people.
And also agree that schools suck too! Beside SA, there is also violence. Heard that people experience the most violence in their lives during their years in school (and someone that got bullied I can talk from experience here). And most of the stuff we learn there is useless and indoctrination.
I think it is mostly a societal problem. Notice over the time people have become more aggressive and stressed.
What I hate was when I learned this story, some guys were okay for their actions and thought no jail should be given. They said "they were being men not little kids. Don't punish them. I was like "WTF, you'd be in prison doing this".
the misogyny culture (yes, it's a culture, it's big enough to not be just considered an issue) in KR is fkn insane. I've only got involved in KR made videogames and dramas last year and it was enough for me to witness multiple "incidents" against female creators or just random women on the street, it's insane
@VampiricVik Misogyny is a conspiracy theory. Doesn't exist!
@@VampiricVikcalm down, nerd. You have nothing to worry about.
@@jaylong4705 ayo you tried slipping that shit ?!
@@Inky_doodledoo go back to the basement, nerd
2:16 muta egyptian here, there is a sad case that happened here a couple of days ago that went viral and basically its about a person from thr gulf ( mega rich) who convinced a guy here to abduct a kid and snuff him and cut him up on video for him for 5 million egp and then ironically he scammed him by saying to get the payout do it again but thankfully he got busted as the rotten smell of the boys body was leaking and he got arrested and they're trying now to arrest the guy who ordered the hit snd the connection between them in Kuwait 4:15
are there any sources/articles about this? or…
@@thatstockin sure yeah but it's in arabic lol
@@Twist_-could you link it? emarati here lol
omg i just heard my mom talk about this the other day
@@mimi-b9j yeah its messed up idk if he got sentenced or what
i saw Rotten Mango cover this in great detail awhile back and I remember feeling so gutted and hopeless in a way I've never felt before. highly recommend for those interested in the case. their coverage is incredibly respectful to the victims and has a lot of nuance
Exactly, its way more than just sharing minor pics. There was torture, there was waaaaaaay more stuff than just minor pictures and content. Its a wilder case than it was shown here for sure! But hey, brought it up back when so kudos but yea, way worst stuff happened there in those rooms. Just horrible horrible
What makes me so viscerally angry is that most of the time, these idiots target people who are already struggling in life & instead of them helping someone in need, they decide to benefit off of that individual’s suffering. Only monsters are capable of doing something so depraved & weak.
There's a 70s movie called Hardcore. Not a horror movie.... but leans heavily into the sleaze of the snuff and perversion racket.
There’s an 80’s short movie called Shake Hands With Danger. Literally just a safety video that shows all the horrible accidents that can happen when working with heavy equipment.
And a movie called Snuff was made too, back in 1976..
Entertaining those old Exploitation movies..
Mista gg reviewed it
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I think I saw that on Tubi lol
For the opening spiel, I feel like the CLEAR net has become its own rabbit hole for a lot of people, because most people just browse the same few websites, plus storefront sites. Just browsing outside of algorithms is becoming a lost art in itself, and a lot of the sites & communities on the surface Web just stay unknown now because they're outside of the social media & commercial spheres.
There are a bunch of Web forums out there like Agora Road or Cloudy Skies or Brahkie Boards that live like they're outside of people's reach, just because people don't really surf the Web anymore. You have like the sites on Tilde Town & NekoWeb, people link from indie-web spots like Neocities or Melonland that just lead you down a rabbit hole, or even old TH-cam videos like the VSauce "Do Online Now Guys" series just lead to places people don't really make the effort to find anymore. The people interested in dark Web browsing are probably growing that same sort of distance from the surface Web, so I think this type of thing can branch out from being solely about dark-Web finds.
I see a lot of people recommending the rotten mango video's about this topic. I watched them when they came out and they were pretty shocking. So after watching I did some searching online and found out the numbers in the videos (and title too) are way off. So just a heads up. I don't think they're the best when it comes to fact checking.
also she is just so over the top. either acting over emotional cuz she used to be really badly disrespectful or just making a topic 30 mins longer than she should have cuz she repeats and repeats and repeats herself...
The part that really infuriates me is the fact that the main guy responsible (Cho Ju-Bin) got 42 years in prison, which was 3 years less than what he was given in the first trial, which was already much less than the life sentence the prosecution was aiming for.
That's way too light imo. Compared to the lifelong trauma and suffering he inflicted upon his victims
Ya korea and most justice system don't care about suffering of victims
It is a major problem in Korea. The punishments are too light.
People are always calling for it to be more severe. And I feel like its being reaching a breaking point recently.
@@lamia197 Does the weird law where minors under 13 get away with any crime still exist?
@@dibel3669 13? more like 18. its a slap on the wrist.
Most likely very powerful people involved, so they got his sentence down.
I head of this through the rotten mango podcast. Its a very gruesome case. So many girls are forever traumatized.
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@@dizo-jp2tdobviously not.
ANYTHING involving little ones or animals, I will NEVER tolerate, I could never stomach, or destroy my soul looking at that stuff, and I've seen a LOT of the worst parts of humanity online over the years. I pray every day for those who are trapped in these situations and hope they escape and heal from the ordeals.
Edit: Uh-oh, looks like a firery but mostly peaceful protest is going on here with this simple comment I made😂
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If only god actually wills to protect them
Did you see Bidens daughters diary entry about showering with him? The fbi raided a home trying to get it back, confirming its authenticity
People are animals so why qualify anything?
@@RanEncounteranimals can’t understand Hegel or Nietzsche, and they certainly can’t comprehend most if not 99% of our works, they don’t have the logical brains that we do, and most aren’t as complicated as us emotionally, even with the exceptions, they don’t live nearly as long as we do and in nearly every aspect they are lesser beings than us.
We aren’t the same in any way, this is a terrible take used by people controlled by their emotions, or doomers who unironically hate humanity, meaning you either love animals too much of you hate humans too much, to be honest they are rather mutual and compliment each other.
I know this seems very black and white but if you have telegram I am going to automatically assume you are into some shady shit. I've never heard of it being used for just texting your family or friends online
The worst and absolutely most horrifying part of these rooms is the Mothers/Fathers that share ''content'' of their own children.... Some people just dont deserve to procreate
Should note that these sick people didn’t target any minor. They targeted the already unstable ones, so these minors also didn’t want to tell their parents when they did realize they got blackmailed. That’s why it took longer to discover these rooms
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How did they know who was unstable?
@@SuperSlimshady1 This is just a guess but probably talking to them, or maybe hacking into their social media accounts..
@@lololollololol629 maybe but jus like case where 19yr old date 13yr old like how?! Where did y'all meet? How did y'all start dating? Cuz typically a 19yr old doesn't hang out where 13yr old are at u know what I mean
It's sickening how the availability of hardcore corn on the internet for the past 2 decades has caused such desensitization to people that makes them "crave" for more, which results in such depraved actions.
It's an illness, but most people don't fall into such behaviors. Because they're not already amoral.
@@Mavendowop is not wrong though, accessibility of hardcore stuff is not helping either
@@ProtossOPbut I also doubt it's really doing that much harm.
@@ProtossOP yeah as a good person I cannot understand how people are so into making this stuff besides drug addiction warping their mind. I mean I understand making material so you can make money off it. But the people who do this because they're passionate about it... I don't understand.
"Availability" isn't the issue .. it's society.
Nice to see Mutahar return to the topic of the dank web every now and again.
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The most horrible person in this situation in my opinion is GodGod, because he did this with minimum financial motivation. He is just pure evil.
It’s truly horrific what was done to the victims of the nth rooms. Anything mentioned in this video is only the tip of the iceberg.
I would recommend the videos from rotten mango if you want to know the specifics, she also gives some cultural context.
You have to put the whole thing into perspective.
South Korea has only 50 million citizens. That means, 200.000 users in those rooms is almost 1 in 200. And they never really prosecuted the users.
Just imagine that. You know exactly that 1 out of 200 people was involved in this. And if you assume that most users were men and men make up only half the population, that means roughly 1 out of 100 men was involved.
And they just still walk around free. No one knows who they are, and law enforcement just doesn't care.
7 years just for this is actually insane, but not surprised considering how the police handled the burning sun scandal case
No matter what social or religious differences countries may have, every country can at least agree that exploiting children is wrong and should work together at stopping things like this.
After Peter scully was captured, the red rooms were proven not to be a myth considering he held live action sessions for people to buy into.
Muta you should do a follow up because it happens AGAIN
Watched a documentary once called PDF next door. They interviewed one of the detectives whose job it is to trawl through the hard drives of these people. Tens and tens of thousands of images and videos, and she had to label them on a basis of severity and trying to Identify these kids. I couldn’t even imagine the horrors she would be witnessing. She pointed out that some of these vids were dated 10 plus years old. These poor kids have been where they are, suffering god knows what for 10+ years and they’re still anonymous. Thousands and thousands of them. It’s just horrific.
I'm pretty sure there's a website for normal people to help identify children in videos or images like that, pretty sure I seen it on this channel even.. Yeah that sounds like a horrible job to do, going through images or videos like that...
this is a legendary SOG video already. good stuff muta
Thank you fullauto86, that's very cool of you.
I've known about this situation, thanks for covering it, too. And sure, YT is a bit centric at times, so it's good creators like you touch on what happens on other corners of the world.
The dark web videos were my favorite and the way I found your channel. It was best to watch those late at night and feel a bit scared lol
Thought you were talking about the other kind of dark web videos in the first half…
I saw the two-part series of this case from Stephanie Soo (Rotten Mango). She did a great job covering the details and humanizing the journalists, victims and authorities who were subjected to their atrocities. I highly recommend her series on this if anyone else is interested.
She also has a team of Korean translators to better contextualize sources.
Not saying this video isn’t great. It is. Rotten Mango just wemt further in debt if this video intrigued you and you want to learn more.
It's sad that Manhunt will probably never get a remaster.
Thank you for making a video for this, the only other info eng video was by that mango chick and her video made me cringe at her dramatics
I use to browse with the dark web with TOR as well when I was a freshman in college (very long time ago) and also cause out of curiosity. And Red Rooms were one of the craziest myths back then. I didn't stumble into one, fortunately because I gotta admit, the hearsay about red rooms is just crazy. Even just thinking about it is making me sick to my stomach.
My stepdaughter's personal information got leaked on Telegram last week by some guy who didn't get what he want.
People even showed up to our house. But good luck talking some sense into kids these days, it's really hard. 😂
In my country, but I expect it happens everywhere there's a ton of these so called 'expose' groups around with thousands of members, mostly frustrated young men from a certain cultural background, I know that's risky to say these days but It's obvious and true so I think it should be called out as it is. Anyway, they terrorize mostly minors and if they get what they wanted or they didn't, it doesn't really matter, they just dump their personal details in one of those chats. It's a big problem over here right now and it pisses me off big time.
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wow wtf...
Yeah out here. We coming out the house like the Danny devito meme
If people showed up to our house. It wouldn’t be good for them
i never really thought abt it but it does make sense the most illlegal stuff happening are on popular chat messaging apps bcs theres no fear of like clicking a malware its just something on the getgo
This happens in Brazil on Telegram and Discord. They call it "panelinha" (not the only meaning of this word) here. One guy doing stuffs like that was nicknamed King and he got arrested a while ago. There is a guy called Mistério TV that investigate and persecute people that does that.
Always follow the money, never trust the internet, exercise your judgment more than your curiosity.
You really think someone would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?
Can't wait for Muta to cover the Sony forcing steam users to link to their PSN accounts for helldivers 2.
My mom used to say, in reply to my fear of funeral homes, deceased, and the possibility of ghosts:
"It's not the dead you have to worry about. It's the living."
I no longer fear those things as they can't hurt me/aren't real, but I sure as shit keep my eyes on the humans in this world.
Always good with muta posts
It's funny. Snuff isn't the definition you used, but your not wrong. It's that the definition was broadened because the original definition outside of conspiracy theory conventions doesn't exist. The og term referred to a murder being committed & filmed for pornography to be packaged & sold. While plausible the reality is even the sleazy 70s porn industry wasn't going to do something that risky. As a porn producer of the time noted why would we take the risk & expense of murder rather than you know fake it, which would be cheaper & the customer would never know the difference.
But the concept of Snuff lived on both because horror films immortalized the concept & because while no one would take this action for profit, there are no shortage of sick people who film they're crimes. Then of course you have fatal accidents & news footage. While no sane man would risk producing a snuff film, if you wanted to see a human become a corpse the footage was out there already legal for alot of it.
Then the Internet happened.
I explain this because I feel the Red Room has had a similar journey. Sure the actual idea as originally described isn't real or at least we can't prove it, but sick sh*t like absolutely. Just as serial killers made snuff real by filming it themselves the same is now true of streaming.
Gotta appreciate muta bringing attention to these things not many other commentary do.
yanno, the radical feminist movement in S KR started making sense when shits like this happens.
most of the users go unpunished. slow police response. men distributing materials involving his own wives and daughters.
18:23 "Men lie, women lie but the blockchain does not lie"
Just a few years ago a similar awful situation was happening on TH-cam. Nick Crowley did a very in depth video on it in his daily capper video
[redacted] films are NOT an urban legend unfortunately. There is an Australian man in prison in the Philippines for a variety of crimes he committed to sell the videos including forcing an 11 year old to literally dig her own [redacted] before [redacted]. This man was associated with a profitable website which also paid someone to abduct and [redacted] a little girl in Russia. The world is full of incredibly evil people who have enough money to make their unhealthy fantasies a reality. The world is also full of animals who will do literally anything for money.
Wasn't that DD??
People move the goalposts often when discussing the definition of a snuff film. In reality, videos of people killing people for profit are incredibly accessible and not hard to find on the surface web. You might not easily find a dressed-up high-production film in a studio funded by elites (that we know of), but you can find common people doing the most horrific things you've ever seen to each other with a Google search.
@@paolarei4418 it was the same guy who made dd who did that
You know its bad when Mutahar's room turns red
CP is awful, the way these people find the capacity to torture other human beings like this is awful, but comparing this to mythical online snuff rooms is kinda...
Take a shot everytime Muta says "and of course"
A lot of these happens in the west too or even worse they never get caught tho
I agree with Asmongold, no one under the age of 18 on the internet or social media.
Ok anyone who didn't understand what "high water posts" mean, they mean explicit or almost horny posts. We compare the level of violence, gore, sex etc with "water levels"
That's how I found out about you was you surfing the dark web been subbed ever since
If the surface web this horrible right now, we can only guess how horrible the dark web is.
The dark web seems to be no longer used by these people and now use the surface web.
These “people” unfortunately no longer have to go “dark” because it’s being “normalized” by people in higher places……
Have you seen one of the recent posts on your subreddit? It is about a child exploitation ring here on TH-cam by Filipino "gaming" channels. It reminds me a lot of this story, about how that horrid content is easily accessible on the clear web. I agree it's pretty terrifying.
Nth room is a result of people looking for alternatives to prawn that was banned.. and things got more n more violent, from pin hol cameras to revenge prawn to well red room like stuff
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@@dizo-jp2td Don't remind me
Even if porn was legal this would still happen since this shit is happening in countries where porn IS legal
Disturbing fact
A lot of CP DVDs/magazines that enters Japan comes from Germany , A few well known Mangakas were caught ordering CP from Germany - Shit Japan has legalised Loli-porn ,yet they still seek the Real thing
Also there was that massive raid on that German brothel that housed a lot of Japanese, Korean, Chinese , Vietnamese ,Taiwanese girls who were trafficked to Germany If I remember correctly some of the girls were in there early teens
Italy had its own Nth room like thing
There have been quite few revenge porn cases in countries where its legal , I knew a few major ones here in the UK
So no its not because Porn is Illegal.
it feel like now a days if you ask for privacy its like why what are you tryna hide in the case of gov no privacy for you its for your own safety feels taboo or maybe im using that word wrong anyway theres people who can do you harm with your information.
I agree. It shouldn’t be that way. Unfortunately, WE the People are being Encroached on. And young people don’t typically seem to care about things as important as “privacy”
@@johnnylego807 Young people who are aware care. The issue is that a culture ruled by social media and corporations has been grooming people to be less and less cautious with their information to make it easier to collect. It's a total flip from the lectures my generation (older Z) were given about internet privacy and having classes about how to use computers safely and efficiently.
The problem with red rooms isn't that they're fake, but rather that they're not needed. Horrible people don't need to hide that deeply, it would seem.
Waiiit, red rooms are nsfw rooms, gore rooms, or what?
The clear web is so much more terrifying, because the clear web has people to exploit, and people who wanna exploit those people
this is absolutely horrific
Japan and South Korea are a heaven for PDF Files, it's everywhere. Can't ride on a single bus without a dude not keeping his hands by himself, same with schools and other public facilities.
And this utter insanity is becoming more common as peoples "appetites" as sick and foul as that sounds, become more and more extreme. Reports from a similar case (Listen to Darknet Diaries Episode 131 (heavy content warning)) had these guys starting on pretty vanilla stuff and upping the ante until nothing could get them off anymore expect stuff like this. There is edgy shit on the internet, and there is inhumane in the purest sense of the world. I don't need to tell you what category this case and similar ones fall into.
Without the context, "forced them to eat bacon" is such a strange phrase to hear as an american. "Don't you dare wrap that around a jalapeño filled with cream cheese. Nooooo!"
You should do a piece on o9a, tempel ov blood and 764
It's crazy what that Kyle Spitze guy wound up doing after the initial video of him getting shot went viral
Very weird rabbit hole
I recommend Rotten Mango podcast (it's on TH-cam as well) if you want to know more this case and other international cases
An amazing channel
Stay in schools, don’t do drugs, don’t post naked pictures on the internet
Oh a few years late but ya.. this is f up beyond belief.
Kids…
KIDS did this.
Stephanie has a couple of videos on this subject and it’s horrid.
One can’t help but wonder if a certain case happening in Florida has something to do with this, seeing as the perp used the app as recently as the night that little girl’s life was taken.
I think you are under selling how many people were using the rooms. 260,000 people is about 1 in 5 men from the entire country. People in political power were using these rooms. Also you only say 'some' minors, there were rooms dedicated to only minors, hundreds of them, these men would trick underaged girls into sending explicit pictures for money then threaten those same girls with those pictures saying if they don't do more explicit, and self tortu re on video and send it they would send the videos to their familys and friends.
It happens to boys, too, a lad here in Scotland killed himself recently over something like you described
I'll never forget a dude at my school getting pulled from class. He'd been bragging about how he'd been watching Red Rooms, he'd paid money to watch (Which apparently he had! 🤦) He did describe some of what he'd seen, could've been actual real life Gore tbf, something like Funky Town maybe?
Unfortunately there was many different stories about how he'd spent nearly a grand on his Mums credit card, the bank notified his Mum & it went from there. He'd paid for someone to do X, Y, Z to a young girl yada yada. Never totally sure of the legit story but he 100% spent A LOT on his Mums Card for apparently nothing or access to gore videos (She warned other parents) & the police talked to him about what he'd been bragging about.
Yikes dude
You heard about the helldivers II/sony drama?
Waiting for that too
The channel called Rotten Mango covered the godgod & "the doctor" cases in gruesome but suitable for work detail. I have no idea how people can get to that point...
1:39 I almost spit out my energy drink because of the thought of a Muslim being forced to eat bacon lol!
there was a case in egypt this week where a man g utted a minor and filmed it under command of another minor to "post it on the dark web for money" this phenomena of red room are seriously the worse myth that ever came out of the internet
What's the case called? Is there any link about it?
8mm back in the day freaked me out. Might re watch
i remember when the SK gov took action on nth room, and it was before even nth room got in to the eyes of public through journalist that i started hearing rumors about "The Rooms" that existed not only in SK or JP even in multiple other countries and as the rooms are partial online or aren't even online it's near impossible to track them though internet.
Also the red rooms does exists, they don't operate how people think though there are so many myths attached to them, i haven't heard about HD streaming ones as that's probably a myth, but there might exist some with low quality streams, the ones i've heard about is "personalized videos" or "commission" under a time limit if you know what i mean, yes it is that bad
I forgot to mention its not limited to SK or JP, it exists nearly everywhere in the world
Oooooooo this is a shiny pokemon video, nTH Room goes deeeeeep.
Absolutely agree that the evils humans are capable of are the most terrifying of all horrors.
Yeyy new upload
God God was actually the OG in the game, The Doctor is like God God's greater successor.
“Never download malware” oh thanks for the heads up 😂
oh darn I wish someone told me that before I downloaded malware! oh jeez
Well. These people should be [redacted]
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That really is fucked up. Scary shit.
Saw that stupid tiktok shit with bears vs men and the women picking bears. Thought it was stupid but after seeing this vid I kinda can understand why some women would pick a bear over a man considering the worst a bear can do is kill them while a man can do something like this nth room shit...
Hard to listen to but if people are interested stephanie soo covered this and she worked with translators. It's very nsfw and can be more than a little upsetting.
If MUTA!!! Listened to Causal Criminalist, he'd know that Snuff films are VERY REAL, and have easily been around since the early 70s. Fucking ordinary gamers these days ;)
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I’m surprised he does not already know this. Maybe he does and didn’t explicitly state it? He’s not that old so he wouldn’t know that was a thing.
@@johnnylego807 good point. I'd think he would know? He does a lot of different internet research videos.
@@ShawnStafford-1978 Exactly, that’s why I would be surprised if he didn’t know that was a thing.
@@johnnylego807 I'm older and keep finding out how horrible technology and everything is getting worse. I feel cringe my Birthday is tomorrow 😕
Another example is element/matrix. It’s similar to telegram as in its very hard for law enforcement to identify criminals. I remember seeing one room that was very obviously a CSAM room with 10,000+ users. It’s extremely revolting and sad. I’ve never heard anyone talk abt the problem before and it honestly feels like it’s just swept under the rug.