More than wanting these things you make or having the skill to make them, I want the freedom to do it. When I turn in this badge and gun I'm looking for peace, quiet, and extreme solitude. I've seen the worst of humanity for too long. Love your channel. Very therapeutic.
Looks like a great foundation frame you could modify over time. Love the quick release and the fact you took time to show us the timber hitch. I have some ideas on where I would like to use those on other projects. Can't wait to build one of these.
awesome project.. text book... glad you see you are a prusik man too.. i love that knot.. great lashing/notching method very well done.. i took away a lot here .. the bowline and double hitch is sweet.. thanks J
Improvise, adapt, overcome. Gunny Highway would be proud lol Seriously, though, this is a great option if your frame crumbles on you or you need a frame and none is available. If you had a blanket, I'd wrap the bottom crossmemeber with it for added lumbar comfort. Just sayin'. It'll start rubbing against your back along the top of your beltline, eventually. Keep up the good work, sir.
Josh, using the two bites as quick release is something most folks don't cover, but it an excellent method for anything you want a quick release for, especially packs! I created one accidentally about 20 years ago when I screwed up a truckers hitch one night when I couldn't see well in the rain. Took me a while to figure what I did to untie it till I just yanked on it! Thanks so much for the tips and being safety minded!
I like the square notches, as they help to stiffen up the frame. Good technique. I noticed that when you cinched up the ropes at your waist, there was a gap at your shoulders. The load bearing would have been mostly on the waist, and much less on the shoulders. I suggest that the middle cross piece be placed about 6” below the top crosspiece, and on the inside (next to the back) of the uprights. (This cross piece does not have to protrude out beyond the uprights but about an inch on each side.). And secure the larks head knot on the middle cross piece. That configuration would raise the frame higher, and better aligned with your spine. This configuration better shares the load between the hips and shoulders. A bit more, a prussic knot on each upright, centered between your upper and lower cross pieces, gives two middle attach points. Now, with six evenly distributed attach points, the gear load can be nicely secured with the time honored diamond O hitch. Both of the prussic knots, and the rope that secures the load to the frame are useful in camp. And the frame can prop up a part of the rain fly for ventilation, be a drying rack for wet gear, etc. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
Can you hear the ultralight crowd losing their minds? I've become interested in other ways of packing gear, whether bedroll over the shoulder, battle belt with a day pack, whatever. This seems interesting, I wonder how much weight you could carry comfortably. I'm thinking some padding wrapped on the back part above your butt would help. Given the right wood I bet this could weigh nearly nothing.
I'm an ultralight guy (7 lb base weight, pack rarely over 21 lbs loaded). I absolutely love this stuff. I know if I had to survive out there for an extended period much of my high tech light gear would disintegrate and I'd perish slowly. But the old ways are good. I just bought my first flint and steel. Looking at canvas backpacks, with just a little gear lust. Trading dyneema fiber for squirrel pelt in 3...2...1...
Yep, the more we know, the less we need. Alice pack shoulder straps could also be used for this pack, and other frames. Hang on to any spares lying around.
I know this is an old video. But your gear videos are so good that it would be awesome seeing you make an updated vid showing how you pack this frame with an oilskin tarp or cover and how/what kit items are arranged inside for max efficiency. That vid is missing on YT by bushcrafters! Would also be great to how you bind it and affix items crafted in the field, I.e, collapsible bucksaw… This would be very helpful for people who are planning on attending the intermediate/advanced course at the Pathfinder school… Since making/loading pack frames to carry gear seems to be an essential part of both courses. Merry Christmas, 2021, Josh & a happy New Year.
All the best to you in 2022! I’m sure you’ll be wildly successful! I’ve benefited hugely from your gear recommendations, bug out concepts and wilderness first aid videos. Would love to see you accentuate that frame in the same way you apply yourself to all things bushcraft.
I've never seen this before. Really makes me want to make one myself. Thanks for another awesome and informative video. Also noticed you were using the old reliable Mora :)
I feel as if I could trust it more than the aluminum frames that could and probably will bend. Then what would people do that didn’t know how to do this??? Looking forward to the loading! Awesome!!!!
Do you prefer this to the Roycroft frame? I’m looking forward to the next video about attaching the load. Thanks for taking the time to make these informative videos!
Good video, good explanation, solid advice. Quick couple questions - Have you had (or heard of) issues with the straps at the top rubbing badly on shoulders or sides of neck? What would you suggest using if some kind of padding might be needed for heavier loads?
I was thinking of trying a couple of one foot pieces of "pool noodle" which could serve as padding for the straps, fishing floats, signaling (if bright colored), and possibly other uses. Just thinking out loud...
I like the #36, there is conflicting data on tensile strength out there but I believe it’s over 300lbs. I haven’t dug into it as much as I’d like to settle the conflicting info, but it’s three strands of smaller diameter bank like (possibly #12 if I had to guess) twisted together, each with what I would estimate is 100lb test. Anyway, more than strong enough and in a smaller package and I think the individual strands are stronger and more useful than inner strands from paracord. I get more with paracord but not particularly better
Ugh bankline is too small to see in person never mind on the screen! Corporals Corner at least uses 3/8 Orange rope which is perfect for teaching knots on tree's or branches BUT you can always use bankline on the wood product beside it.
Looks like you went around the tree the wrong way with your bowline. The bitter end should be in the middle of loop not on the outside. Nice pack frame though.
After your recent discussions about "cache" and "prusik", I'm surprised you didn't mention that you're taking a "bight" of the rope, not a "bite". After all, you can only hold so much rope between your teeth...
More than wanting these things you make or having the skill to make them, I want the freedom to do it. When I turn in this badge and gun I'm looking for peace, quiet, and extreme solitude. I've seen the worst of humanity for too long. Love your channel. Very therapeutic.
I do like the ladder frame with the notches seems stronger. That quick release I'd never thought about that. Safe journeys.
Outstanding tutorial... That slip knot is going in mental toolbox... looking forward to the part 2 of this
GB - I've been using these frames for a while now, but yet I learned something new from your video. Thanks!
Looks like a great foundation frame you could modify over time. Love the quick release and the fact you took time to show us the timber hitch. I have some ideas on where I would like to use those on other projects. Can't wait to build one of these.
Great tutorial Josh. That quick release bite on a bite was pretty sweet.
Nate
Excellent video. Excellent training for those wanting to get outdoors and be properly prepared. Keep up the outstanding job you continue doing.
Sir, Can't get enough of your knowledge! I see you're on those Red Bulls again! Lol! Thanks again!
Love this , what an elegant simple method of making a frame pack
awesome project.. text book... glad you see you are a prusik man too.. i love that knot.. great lashing/notching method very well done.. i took away a lot here .. the bowline and double hitch is sweet.. thanks J
Great video, I agree with
Opal Preston Shirley the quick release great addition...
Improvise, adapt, overcome. Gunny Highway would be proud lol
Seriously, though, this is a great option if your frame crumbles on you or you need a frame and none is available. If you had a blanket, I'd wrap the bottom crossmemeber with it for added lumbar comfort. Just sayin'. It'll start rubbing against your back along the top of your beltline, eventually.
Keep up the good work, sir.
I have seen folks wrap a shemagh around it but I’ve never found it necessary. If you take the time to make sure it’s smooth it rides pretty well
Good upgrade to the ladder frame with the quick release.
Josh, using the two bites as quick release is something most folks don't cover, but it an excellent method for anything you want a quick release for, especially packs! I created one accidentally about 20 years ago when I screwed up a truckers hitch one night when I couldn't see well in the rain. Took me a while to figure what I did to untie it till I just yanked on it! Thanks so much for the tips and being safety minded!
Thank you for sharing this. Always pick up something from your videos.
23:15 I am really interested in seeing your perspective on packing the frame. I am experimenting with this now. Thanks!
Solid video. Great content for the community
I learn so much from your channel, thank you for your videos!!
I believe you just like to say the word "prusik" Great video as always.
Amazingly well done again, and thanks for the timber hitch tip!
Well explained!
I like the square notches, as they help to stiffen up the frame. Good technique. I noticed that when you cinched up the ropes at your waist, there was a gap at your shoulders. The load bearing would have been mostly on the waist, and much less on the shoulders.
I suggest that the middle cross piece be placed about 6” below the top crosspiece, and on the inside (next to the back) of the uprights. (This cross piece does not have to protrude out beyond the uprights but about an inch on each side.). And secure the larks head knot on the middle cross piece. That configuration would raise the frame higher, and better aligned with your spine. This configuration better shares the load between the hips and shoulders.
A bit more, a prussic knot on each upright, centered between your upper and lower cross pieces, gives two middle attach points. Now, with six evenly distributed attach points, the gear load can be nicely secured with the time honored diamond O hitch.
Both of the prussic knots, and the rope that secures the load to the frame are useful in camp. And the frame can prop up a part of the rain fly for ventilation, be a drying rack for wet gear, etc.
Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
Great detail.. thanks
Great video, Josh
Can you hear the ultralight crowd losing their minds? I've become interested in other ways of packing gear, whether bedroll over the shoulder, battle belt with a day pack, whatever. This seems interesting, I wonder how much weight you could carry comfortably. I'm thinking some padding wrapped on the back part above your butt would help. Given the right wood I bet this could weigh nearly nothing.
Probably up to 20'ish lbs. Reminds me of an improvised ALICE pack lol
I'm an ultralight guy (7 lb base weight, pack rarely over 21 lbs loaded). I absolutely love this stuff. I know if I had to survive out there for an extended period much of my high tech light gear would disintegrate and I'd perish slowly. But the old ways are good. I just bought my first flint and steel. Looking at canvas backpacks, with just a little gear lust. Trading dyneema fiber for squirrel pelt in 3...2...1...
Great vid. Love the content and detailed explanation.
Very nice 👌
thanks Josh
Thank you, that was cool, very interesting
This is a great Video
Good stuff. Nice explanations.
Very good instructional video.
Great
Looking 4wrd to the attaching the load video
Yep, the more we know, the less we need. Alice pack shoulder straps could also be used for this pack, and other frames. Hang on to any spares lying around.
Thanks for sharing 👍🏼
Joshua, thanks for sharing, atvb brother !
Great info!
Excellent video as always! Did you ever make the video on how to construct the pack portion?
Sweet. Love it.....ahh...triangle of death.
I know this is an old video. But your gear videos are so good that it would be awesome seeing you make an updated vid showing how you pack this frame with an oilskin tarp or cover and how/what kit items are arranged inside for max efficiency. That vid is missing on YT by bushcrafters! Would also be great to how you bind it and affix items crafted in the field, I.e, collapsible bucksaw… This would be very helpful for people who are planning on attending the intermediate/advanced course at the Pathfinder school… Since making/loading pack frames to carry gear seems to be an essential part of both courses. Merry Christmas, 2021, Josh & a happy New Year.
Thanks brother! You, too. I don’t work with the PF school any longer. I left there last year. I am back to only teaching at my own school again.
All the best to you in 2022! I’m sure you’ll be wildly successful! I’ve benefited hugely from your gear recommendations, bug out concepts and wilderness first aid videos. Would love to see you accentuate that frame in the same way you apply yourself to all things bushcraft.
Nice! Thanks for sharing!
Solid video. Thanks brother. RLTW!!!
Sua Sponte brother!
I've never seen this before. Really makes me want to make one myself. Thanks for another awesome and informative video. Also noticed you were using the old reliable Mora :)
Love that Garberg
Good stuff
I feel as if I could trust it more than the aluminum frames that could and probably will bend. Then what would people do that didn’t know how to do this??? Looking forward to the loading! Awesome!!!!
Good job brother......b well....
I knew I should've kept my Lincoln logs.
Do you prefer this to the Roycroft frame? I’m looking forward to the next video about attaching the load. Thanks for taking the time to make these informative videos!
I wouldn’t say I prefer one over the other really. Depends on what I have for resources and what I need to carry which one I would make
Awesome....!!! PS - I can see you now on a 12 miler, 35 lb ladder ruck, under 3 hours.....!!
32lbs of which is food
@@GrayBeardedGreenBeret LOL
Good video, good explanation, solid advice.
Quick couple questions - Have you had (or heard of) issues with the straps at the top rubbing badly on shoulders or sides of neck?
What would you suggest using if some kind of padding might be needed for heavier loads?
I was thinking of trying a couple of one foot pieces of "pool noodle" which could serve as padding for the straps, fishing floats, signaling (if bright colored), and possibly other uses. Just thinking out loud...
I’ve seen large strips of bark placed under the rope to spread the weight and also padded with cotton like bandanas or shemaghs
Do u hava a video on how to attach gear to it?
#LadderPackFrame #QuickRelease
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Did not catch the type of cordage you were using but it looks like there was a tacky
substance on it?
Tarred Mariners Line aka “Bank Line”. Good and sticky
@@GrayBeardedGreenBeret Thanks will check it out.
What size do you normally carry (tensile strength) ?
I like the #36, there is conflicting data on tensile strength out there but I believe it’s over 300lbs. I haven’t dug into it as much as I’d like to settle the conflicting info, but it’s three strands of smaller diameter bank like (possibly #12 if I had to guess) twisted together, each with what I would estimate is 100lb test. Anyway, more than strong enough and in a smaller package and I think the individual strands are stronger and more useful than inner strands from paracord. I get more with paracord but not particularly better
@@GrayBeardedGreenBeret thanks I will try some out looks like good stuff.
Can we call this the Ladder of the Pack frame?
Then with larger diameter poles I can make a ladder using this same method.
Ugh bankline is too small to see in person never mind on the screen!
Corporals Corner at least uses 3/8 Orange rope which is perfect for teaching knots on tree's or branches BUT you can always use bankline on the wood product beside it.
There are other videos showing these knots, they were not the focus.
Not all of us got _"that extra three inches."_
:(
SOL then
Looks like you went around the tree the wrong way with your bowline. The bitter end should be in the middle of loop not on the outside. Nice pack frame though.
After your recent discussions about "cache" and "prusik", I'm surprised you didn't mention that you're taking a "bight" of the rope, not a "bite". After all, you can only hold so much rope between your teeth...