Great seeing you Hamaji! I was so skeptical about the PE foam until I did it... what kind of voodoo magic is this? Lol. Thanks for stopping by to check out some keyboard mutilation lol
It even makes that horrible clonky spacebar sound better, I don't know why some people's spacebars sound so awful on stock boards and others sound decent but the first typing test with black was awful.
I did the 2nd mod and while it sounded amazing, I realized a few keys weren't registering every keypress, I pulled my switches and used some tweezers to take the pin openings and create slightly larger holes closer to the size of the ones created by the plastic pegs and now have absolutely no issues. I think if the metal pegs of the switches are touching the foam it can potentially cause an issue, but just my experience. Just wanted to share in case anyone had a similar occurrence. Thanks for the video, so glad I saved that PE foam bag my board came in.
Thank you man, I wish I knew about D65 gaskets sooner. I used most of the ideas from the flex mod with the Polycarb plate and it is great I really can feel the bounce when typing. I used your stage 3 mod on nk655 also, you really are gifted at this. Keep making these videos and I will keep trying out your mods making keyboards as good as they can be.
Nice mod! I did something similar. Removed extra gaskets, applied more of the Glorious gaskets, put 007 orings I had under the screw to raise 1-2 mm of height, and now it's bouncy enough for me :)
I'm just gonna stick with stock once I get mine. I got the shipping notification today so it should pop up next week! Great video! Gave me some ideas to play around with. Very curious to compare the stock gaskets with something else.
Honestly: The more I see of this so called "hobby" the more idiotic it seems. Not only does this community seem to think of things that would have been a quality issue 10 years ago as a feature, their reasoning for rating certain things are just batshot crazy for any normal person. On top of that they are paying ungodly amounts of money for shit that they only heard was great but never compared.... It's a weird thing. The intro of this video seems like a perfect parody of this hobby.
Great video. I love this keyboard for what it is. I don’t think I could bring myself to do these mods. But, it’s still nice to see how much the community expands on this boards just to make them as good or even better than some higher end boards.
Wth? The sound mod is so minimal, but the impact is... well pretty damn crazy to be completely honest. With such a minimal mod having this impact on the sound I can imagine myself saving up for one of these now.
the standoffs btw, do not change the flex at all, if you notice they are screwed at the plate, and just inserted into the pcb, means when you flex the pcb in to the keyboard, the standofs would just sort of move out of the pcb, those standoffs are for when you remove the switches to not bend the plate outwards
i just modded my gmmk pro(alu plate w/alpacas L+F) less than 30 mins ago. still kinda hesitant to saw off the curved/bent part of the plate that connects to the pcb. hotswap sockets on my gmmk pro seem loose. not as tight as the one on my kbd67 lite r3 or nk65 ee(which, by the way, i followed your stage 3 mod, i love it). even if the hotswap sockets aren't a snug fit, i dont have any non-responsive switch issue. didn't have enough of kbdfans gaskets left, still waiting on my order. i doubled up the gasket w/ what my board came with, it still feels stiffer than that of kbdfans. i followed everything you did except for the sawing parts and swapping out the gaskets. i love your videos man. your actually one of the reviewers/modders i listen to and agrre with a lot of things you do/say. keeb it up!
Free 5Head tip: If you want to do the flexible mod but dont have thicker gasket strips just open your GMMK Pro box and use the layer of foam inside the packaging. The foam is about 1.5mm thick and is very close to what was used in this video in terms of thickness and density. just cut the foam into strips of the right size! source: my brain
Personally I bought this keyboard knowing I would be modding it. Never had a custom mech before but the gmmk pro seemed like an easy way to get into the whole hobby. Pretty cool how you can change how this board feels and sounds with some easy trick (like the pe foam)
Hey Scott, fantastic video as always!! Forgive me for doing this one little correction, I don't like to do offensive nitpicking but I thought it might be good for you to know: The infamous Jelly board is pronounced the Jelly "Eeee-pock"(this is how Epoch is pronounced). Also, just another heads-up, there is an abrupt audio cutoff at 10:50 😂 Please, I do NOT intend or mean for this comment to come off as nitpick or offensive in any way, but if it happens to come off that way, I'm really sorry and feel free to remove this comment. Thank you for the dedication to your detailed and well thought-out content every time, Scott!
Interesting modifications. I'll have to look into them. All I did was put a 2 more layers of the stock gaskets in actually the same locations you put them, replaced the case foam with a layer of thinsulate, and then screwed the case just tight enough to close, but maintain about that same 1mm space. Plenty of flex, but polycarb plate. I'm curious about the sound mod, but I built this thing with silent switches as an office board, so I prioritized feel for my mods. Might try that foam layer in other boards, like my daily driver at home.
:) I didn't believe the hype at first... thought it was crazy talk. Then it blew my mind... lol. I've been looking for ESD PE foam bags... so hard to find something that thin and ESD... hopefully I can find one soon and share it with others!
@@Keybored No worries. I'm actually waiting on my FR4 plate from AVXworks to pair with the sound mod in search of the most silent GMMK PRO. Considering the plate already has flex cuts, it should flex a bit even without removing some of the gaskets. And yes, I am using Stupidfish foams.
Keyboard nerds: "This sounds like garbage, listen how it rattles" Also keyboard nerds: "This keyboard sounds like garbage, it's so dead" EDIT: Do yourselves a favor and grab a screwless FR4 plate for this board from AVX Works.
I’m not sure I understand this whole premise. Criticizing the lack of Audible feedback due to the rigidity seems silly to me. If you are chasing audible feed back, why not use Box Jades or Box pinks?? Also if you want more springiness perhaps invest in different heavier switches. For my GMMK Pro I actually put a ton of flex tape on the back and betwee. The plates because I wanted to make it more rigid by removing as much space to flex as possible, while still having some give. This way you get to enjoy the feeling of the switches you are using, and adjust your preferences from there rather than trying to make all sorts of micro adjustments inside…
Where can I get some PE foam? That isnt a giant roll lmao. Also would you recommend any other mods to make a keyboard sound / function better? For more then just a gmmk pro
If you want a flexible board, you can mod it all you want, but please let me enjoy a less mushy feel when typing and gaming with a stiff board out of the box. I don't wanna spend hours modding a keyboard JUST because a few people like it to be mushy and counter-porductive for gaming.
Hi Scott, great video as always. I'm also about to do the PE foam mod for a TH-cam video. I've read that there is concern with this kind of foam and ESD or electrostatic discharge. I don't know what kind of engineering degree you have but maybe you can shed some more light on this (my degree is Computer Engineering but I still don't know lol)? I've already ordered some anti-static PE foam and I've read that the PE foam in the Jelly Epoch also has some kind of ESD protection. I've read reports of issues such as switches failing to respond or double inputting, as well as one person having their side lights turn off after plugging in some speakers. I'm not sure if these could be traced back to ESD.
Hi Caloy! I have an aerospace engineering degree lol. I guess it doesn't help either of us with esd. I haven't had issues with the gmmk pro so far, but I have been looking for esd pe bags to substitute it out for. It's been a bit challenging to find one so thin, but I know they are out there! Probably need to get an electrical engineer up in here... How many engineers do we need to figure out esd lol. But I did hear that the gmmk pro has esd protected pcb so I hope that helps out.
@@Keybored Gotcha. Thanks for the response! I guess I'll just have to try it out hehe. Keep up the good work. Yours is my favorite keyboard channel on TH-cam.
When you pierce the switches through the foam in the sound mod are you not worried of the foam going into the PCB? Maybe a noob question I am new to the hobby
Unfortunately no... Since the flex one cuts off all the tabs, it doesn't apply enough pressure to keep everything together and the hot swap sockets don't work :(
@@Keybored actually i tried to fit orings to the case screws but they just would not go in at all. What I ended up doing is glueing some o-rings on the bottom case where was suppose to meet the upper case. there is still some space beside the o-ring, so I put a 6mm thick poron there to support the pcb for some extra flex (like what you did, I removed the middle foam and also those 4 tiny ones of the side). combiend with pc plate, they actually end up pretty flexible. I'm definitely trying out taking off all the screws between pcb and the plate since the pc plate is causing the pcb to bend a lot. Nice video and wonderful ideas!
I have seen rolls being sold, but they're usually thicker... we need something like .5mm or so... I have been taking them out of boxes of electronics. I've been scouring the internet for esd pe foam bags, so when I find one, I'll share the links!
idk if I would attempt the flex mount mod... but holy mackerel! that pe foam is so simple and makes a huge difference. will definitely be doing this! I suppose one side effect is that the under key lighting is both more muted and more diffused?
Do you recommend the Keychron Q1 or the GMMK Pro? I’m new in the custom mechanical keyboard world and I believe these are often considered head-to-head?
I think the MKB87 is actually very similar to the GK87! Check out the GK87 video and I think that mod should apply! Will try out some akkos on mine to see how they are
honestly dont know why lots of you want the flex that much , if your board flex , it feel cheap , if your board pingy and hollow , it feel cheap as well , so what's the point going for the flex ? stiff typing like Tofu is still the most famous board.
oml sounds so much better. Great video. I kinda wish glorious would’ve made it top mount instead. It probably would’ve sounded much better stock and it would’ve left room to potentially gummy worm o ring mod it as well. Speaking of that, I’ve seen a couple of videos of people modding their Tofus to make them a gummy worm mount so that they can achieve a similar sound signature as the unikorn. I just thought I’d share this idea with you since you are truly amazing at modding :)
I did the tape mod (3 layers) and it was a huge upgrade. Then I added the brass plate. I might try this mod tomorrow. Wonder if I should do it with the tape mod?
Watching you break down the design of the gmmk pro makes it obvious that glorious didn't do any product testing with external users. IIRC their mice also launched with numerous complaints. Oh, and their panda switches. You would think they would learn.
@@Keybored Yea, I agree. A lot of people still like it though. They need to at least fix the sluggish stabs. Anyway, great video! It's always interesting to see you come up with non conventional ways to improve keyboards. Recently decided to try your o-ring mod.
Hi Dineox! The D65 foam is pretty hard to get here as well, and we order it from KBDfans :) Have to order it together with other things, because you'll end up paying $5 for the foam and $20 bucks for shipping lol
Hey friend 👋 you should go to green door geek and get the POM GMMK pro plate or order one of the FR4 plates in sure they are good too! And maybe if you want a really nice sounding GMMK pro that’s a little more thocc put some ink black v2s in there!! I saved my GMMK pro, cuz I hated it and really didn’t like their switches…. Plus the board was so stiff. But putting the Pom plate with flex cuts as well as the inks make for a really really enjoyable typing experience! I actually put it back into rotation on my main PC over some of my other favorite boards atm… I actually used the case foam and the plate foam provided from Glorious and I did end up taping the back of the PCB just cuz it always helps the sound a bit
Haha... I think it's magic. I feel the pe foam being as bouncy as it is, helps to take the force of the switch bottom out and reflect it back up through the switch housing. The plate then takes it and amps it up, and the switch and keycaps do the same... Then you get magic
I have been looking for a thin ESD pe foam to eventually replace this with. It was the bag the keyboard came with so I hope it is ESD... but to be safe
those GMMK pro mods sound so good! I just bought a GMMK in silver and plan on doing your sound mod with some black inks, polycarb plate and modded "GOAT" stabs. I was wondering if there were some alternatives to buying a silicone sheet to have the even and consistent results for spacing the keyboard case. Ideally something that could be found in a home would be wonderful.
@@Keybored i can attest to that. lol. just actually modded by gmmk pro 15 mins ago. cut up some o-rings i got for free from a purchase tecsee carrots off of amazon a few months ago. 3mm diameter and 1mm thickness. superglued them to the underside of the top frame. also had to file the part of the plate where the stabs go through to use durock v2 stabs.
Thank you so much for this, did the sound verision and im so happy with the result! For sure worth it since it as you said comes with the keyboard so everyone has it available.
Only problem with the PE Foam mod is that it can come with static risks to the PCB :/ the one in the Jelly Epoch is ESD PE foam to prevent that risk. Believe the Reddit post explaining the PE foam mod has a comment that mentions this
I know this is an old video, but I'd be interested to see how it sounds with the silicone replacing the bottom case foam instead of that thin white sheet.
Glorious Pandas (that went through my own exhaustive quality control and lubing process) with the foam sandwich mod, durock v2s, aluminum plate and GLube, it's all I needed to make this keyboard sound and feel like a 1000$ one... Thanks for the video. Btw in latest plates (brass and pc included) any aftermarket stabs will work out of the box, I didnt have to sand or mod anything to fit the durock v2s!
two things here, the foam is called poron - the other thing is, if you already use a saw why not remove the tabs completely, get 8mm poron foam sheet or eva etc., put it where you put the case foam and press fit the plate between the parts. don’t forget to also put a thin layer on the top somewhere
Hi Nihal! Without the tabs holding the entire assembly together, the foam on foam is a bit too thick, and it doesn't allow the switches to seat into the hot swap sockets properly. I had bunch of keys working and not working on and off, so decided it wasn't viable.
@@Keybored gotcha. such a shame though, both mods are amazing and it would've been great to combine them. this is by far the most creative mech mod video i've ever seen, thanks for sharing!
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0:26 don't you dare
good evening glarses
What if I lubed them up extra slick, legs and all? Haha, good seeing you here Glarses. Can't wait to see what you do with Gloggles!
Wondering if glarses would rather use a membrane keyboard or silent gateron browns, over lubed with 205g0?
@@penguinkraftz3329 most likely membrane, like one of those really premium ones or something
BRASS PLATE WITH THE FOAM OKAY I SEE U 👀
Hi hamaji. Can you make a review on the Akko cs switches?
Great seeing you Hamaji! I was so skeptical about the PE foam until I did it... what kind of voodoo magic is this? Lol. Thanks for stopping by to check out some keyboard mutilation lol
So unfortunate your PC broke right as you were about to upload a vid hopefully it'll get fixed soon !
Finally GMMK PRO mod! Crazy how adding that thin layer opens up the sound so much!
Yup! It is long overdue!
damn the sound becomes much better and might be comparable to some of the budget or more premium top mount board
It even makes that horrible clonky spacebar sound better, I don't know why some people's spacebars sound so awful on stock boards and others sound decent but the first typing test with black was awful.
@@Keybored For sound mod, do you think the thin layer of white foam + PC (instead of brass plate) would yield any results? Thanks in adv!
@@patrickp4936 I did this with my gmmk pro and it made my kb thocc more
"Now I know why Glarses loves them so much"
Dead man walking right there
Lol. I was thinking of sending him a bag of browns to the address he provided
@@Keybored Please do that.
@@Keybored please you need to do that
@@Keybored PLEASE
@@Keybored DO IT
I did the 2nd mod and while it sounded amazing, I realized a few keys weren't registering every keypress, I pulled my switches and used some tweezers to take the pin openings and create slightly larger holes closer to the size of the ones created by the plastic pegs and now have absolutely no issues. I think if the metal pegs of the switches are touching the foam it can potentially cause an issue, but just my experience. Just wanted to share in case anyone had a similar occurrence. Thanks for the video, so glad I saved that PE foam bag my board came in.
Oooh that is a great point you bring up! I wonder after the initial press-in, we should remove then poke them larger
Thanks, you save me time troubleshooting this. Had the same issue on a different keyboard.
That silver GMMK pro’s spacebar sounds like a wooden button from mc 😂
:) the flex did improve dramatically with that one
Thank you man, I wish I knew about D65 gaskets sooner. I used most of the ideas from the flex mod with the Polycarb plate and it is great I really can feel the bounce when typing. I used your stage 3 mod on nk655 also, you really are gifted at this. Keep making these videos and I will keep trying out your mods making keyboards as good as they can be.
Thabk you so much Eric! I'll keep thinking about ways to improve these keyboards!
14:07 WOW that sounds AMAZING!! Super deep a full sound. Nice vid.
Thabk you Chris! I was surprised myself!
@@Keybored do you think this will improve a cheap plastik case as well?
I love the mods you do, they're all different from what I see on other channels.
Thank you Ali! I guess I took things to a point of no return lol
Ali the holy bastard !
@@VENOM-kb8pu huh?
@@amizan8653 You don't remember me ya wanker 🤣aliii
@@VENOM-kb8pu you sure you got the right Ali?
Nice mod! I did something similar. Removed extra gaskets, applied more of the Glorious gaskets, put 007 orings I had under the screw to raise 1-2 mm of height, and now it's bouncy enough for me :)
Great to hear people taking the matter into their own hands!
I'm just gonna stick with stock once I get mine. I got the shipping notification today so it should pop up next week!
Great video! Gave me some ideas to play around with. Very curious to compare the stock gaskets with something else.
Yup! Check out some thicker gaskets! It really does help with the bottom out
10:50 and we'll be calling- didnt finish sentance
Yeah... looks like I overlapped the next audio track over it... sucks
well it's black....
This is exactly the kind of stuff that drew me to the hobby. I love what people come up with on the tinkering aspect of it. Great work.
Thank you Aldarris! I hope the video was helpful!
Honestly:
The more I see of this so called "hobby" the more idiotic it seems.
Not only does this community seem to think of things that would have been a quality issue 10 years ago as a feature, their reasoning for rating certain things are just batshot crazy for any normal person.
On top of that they are paying ungodly amounts of money for shit that they only heard was great but never compared....
It's a weird thing.
The intro of this video seems like a perfect parody of this hobby.
Great video. I love this keyboard for what it is. I don’t think I could bring myself to do these mods. But, it’s still nice to see how much the community expands on this boards just to make them as good or even better than some higher end boards.
:) The great thing about this hobby and the community!
good timing on this video because the GMMK Pro went in stock available a few days ago
Yup! I tried to time it with the full launch!
Wth? The sound mod is so minimal, but the impact is... well pretty damn crazy to be completely honest. With such a minimal mod having this impact on the sound I can imagine myself saving up for one of these now.
I know right? I thought the GMMK pro was a lost cause until this mod!
the standoffs btw, do not change the flex at all, if you notice they are screwed at the plate, and just inserted into the pcb, means when you flex the pcb in to the keyboard, the standofs would just sort of move out of the pcb, those standoffs are for when you remove the switches to not bend the plate outwards
i just modded my gmmk pro(alu plate w/alpacas L+F) less than 30 mins ago. still kinda hesitant to saw off the curved/bent part of the plate that connects to the pcb. hotswap sockets on my gmmk pro seem loose. not as tight as the one on my kbd67 lite r3 or nk65 ee(which, by the way, i followed your stage 3 mod, i love it). even if the hotswap sockets aren't a snug fit, i dont have any non-responsive switch issue. didn't have enough of kbdfans gaskets left, still waiting on my order. i doubled up the gasket w/ what my board came with, it still feels stiffer than that of kbdfans. i followed everything you did except for the sawing parts and swapping out the gaskets. i love your videos man. your actually one of the reviewers/modders i listen to and agrre with a lot of things you do/say. keeb it up!
Free 5Head tip:
If you want to do the flexible mod but dont have thicker gasket strips just open your GMMK Pro box and use the layer of foam inside the packaging. The foam is about 1.5mm thick and is very close to what was used in this video in terms of thickness and density. just cut the foam into strips of the right size!
source: my brain
i did the sound mod and OMG it sounds soooo much better! thank you so much for making this video
Personally I bought this keyboard knowing I would be modding it. Never had a custom mech before but the gmmk pro seemed like an easy way to get into the whole hobby. Pretty cool how you can change how this board feels and sounds with some easy trick (like the pe foam)
:) welcome to the hobby! Don't get sucked in too deep!
Amazing! Was waiting for this vid. Just in time, my gmmk pro just shipped! Great mods as always, sound mod definitely surprised me.
Super surprising! I didn't think in a million years that I would say gmmk pro and sounds good in one sentence
keybored's engeneering degree really helps him come up with these new mods... trying the PE foam on my Tofu!
Haha, probably using the degree for all the wrong reasons
Actually perfect timing I was just considering picking one of these up
:) Hope it's helpful!
Very nice video, and nice creativity, BUT, why did you have the music on, at the last sound test. That triggered me a little lol.
Haha... it was a long night of editing... I apparently cut off one of the audio tracks too... crazy week lol
@@Keybored hahaha, all good. Nothing to worry about too much.
Hey Scott, fantastic video as always!!
Forgive me for doing this one little correction, I don't like to do offensive nitpicking but I thought it might be good for you to know: The infamous Jelly board is pronounced the Jelly "Eeee-pock"(this is how Epoch is pronounced).
Also, just another heads-up, there is an abrupt audio cutoff at 10:50 😂
Please, I do NOT intend or mean for this comment to come off as nitpick or offensive in any way, but if it happens to come off that way, I'm really sorry and feel free to remove this comment.
Thank you for the dedication to your detailed and well thought-out content every time, Scott!
No offense taken! It was a long night of editing, and I think I cut things off a bit too much... sorry!
Interesting modifications. I'll have to look into them. All I did was put a 2 more layers of the stock gaskets in actually the same locations you put them, replaced the case foam with a layer of thinsulate, and then screwed the case just tight enough to close, but maintain about that same 1mm space. Plenty of flex, but polycarb plate. I'm curious about the sound mod, but I built this thing with silent switches as an office board, so I prioritized feel for my mods. Might try that foam layer in other boards, like my daily driver at home.
:) Glad it worked out! Many ways to skin a cat!
The PE foam mod is honestly mind blowing, thanks for sharing this with us. Hoping to do something like that with a Tofu60.
You're very welcome!
Loving all the PE Foam mod hype! Will have to try with a tofu65 first to make sure it has no harm in terms of ESD. Great video :)
:) I didn't believe the hype at first... thought it was crazy talk. Then it blew my mind... lol. I've been looking for ESD PE foam bags... so hard to find something that thin and ESD... hopefully I can find one soon and share it with others!
Will the sound mod work just as well on a poly carbonate plate
Wow all Glorious had to do was make the case a few mm deeper and improve their gaskets.
Yup! And not connect their plate and PCB in 5000 spots with screws lol. Not sure why they did that... seems excessive
removed plate foam on mine, added pe foam instead then tempest mod. best sounding combination for me so far! Love this
:) so many different combinations are possible :)
perfect timing, wanted to cop this board
Glad it could be of help!
14:05 Music during sound tests is a no-no, but other than that good vid, good mods, thanks a bunch!
Yeah... it was a late night of editing and there were a few missed items... sorry!
@@Keybored No worries. I'm actually waiting on my FR4 plate from AVXworks to pair with the sound mod in search of the most silent GMMK PRO. Considering the plate already has flex cuts, it should flex a bit even without removing some of the gaskets. And yes, I am using Stupidfish foams.
I just got the board and did the modding foam sandwhich and result is amazing ! Thank you so much
You're welcome!
Keyboard nerds: "This sounds like garbage, listen how it rattles"
Also keyboard nerds: "This keyboard sounds like garbage, it's so dead"
EDIT: Do yourselves a favor and grab a screwless FR4 plate for this board from AVX Works.
I got one coming from hype!
I think im going to do this build, but try it with the new box ink switches
Would be a great combination!
I’m not sure I understand this whole premise. Criticizing the lack of Audible feedback due to the rigidity seems silly to me. If you are chasing audible feed back, why not use Box Jades or Box pinks??
Also if you want more springiness perhaps invest in different heavier switches.
For my GMMK Pro I actually put a ton of flex tape on the back and betwee. The plates because I wanted to make it more rigid by removing as much space to flex as possible, while still having some give. This way you get to enjoy the feeling of the switches you are using, and adjust your preferences from there rather than trying to make all sorts of micro adjustments inside…
Where can I get some PE foam? That isnt a giant roll lmao. Also would you recommend any other mods to make a keyboard sound / function better? For more then just a gmmk pro
Haha, I usually scavenge it off electronics boxes. If you find a TV box, that's jackpot right there!
If you want a flexible board, you can mod it all you want, but please let me enjoy a less mushy feel when typing and gaming with a stiff board out of the box. I don't wanna spend hours modding a keyboard JUST because a few people like it to be mushy and counter-porductive for gaming.
Wow I like the second mod. It sounds amazing.
It was surprising lol
Great tip on the flex cuts! I used a Dremel tool and was able to get much cleaner cuts!
Can you try make an integrate plate flex? Like the YMDK Wings? I'll aprecciate that so hard.
Haha that would be the ultimate challenge!
That is the big boss of keyboard, haha, i wish that you take the challenge, nice video by the way.
Hi Scott, great video as always. I'm also about to do the PE foam mod for a TH-cam video. I've read that there is concern with this kind of foam and ESD or electrostatic discharge. I don't know what kind of engineering degree you have but maybe you can shed some more light on this (my degree is Computer Engineering but I still don't know lol)? I've already ordered some anti-static PE foam and I've read that the PE foam in the Jelly Epoch also has some kind of ESD protection. I've read reports of issues such as switches failing to respond or double inputting, as well as one person having their side lights turn off after plugging in some speakers. I'm not sure if these could be traced back to ESD.
Hi Caloy! I have an aerospace engineering degree lol. I guess it doesn't help either of us with esd. I haven't had issues with the gmmk pro so far, but I have been looking for esd pe bags to substitute it out for. It's been a bit challenging to find one so thin, but I know they are out there! Probably need to get an electrical engineer up in here... How many engineers do we need to figure out esd lol. But I did hear that the gmmk pro has esd protected pcb so I hope that helps out.
@@Keybored Gotcha. Thanks for the response! I guess I'll just have to try it out hehe. Keep up the good work. Yours is my favorite keyboard channel on TH-cam.
What if you combined both mods into one gmmk pro?
second mod uses plate foam which reduces flex, not really possible to do both
Yeah it was not possible. Also the extra foam makes the thickness between PCB and Plate too great, and does not allow hotswap to work :(
When you pierce the switches through the foam in the sound mod are you not worried of the foam going into the PCB? Maybe a noob question I am new to the hobby
Hi PapaDinh! I didn't notice issues with the piercing :) I also checked and didn't see anything stuck in the hot swap sockets
thank you for the detailed guide video.. but just had one question.
can you do these gasket mod and pe foam mod at the same time??
Unfortunately no... Since the flex one cuts off all the tabs, it doesn't apply enough pressure to keep everything together and the hot swap sockets don't work :(
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING IT CAME WITH PE FOAM ALREADY I didnt know you saved me 20$ from ordering from amazon ty ty
Another way of helping it flex is having o rings on the case screws
Interesting! I guess that is another way without using the 1mm sheets I did!
@@Keybored actually i tried to fit orings to the case screws but they just would not go in at all. What I ended up doing is glueing some o-rings on the bottom case where was suppose to meet the upper case. there is still some space beside the o-ring, so I put a 6mm thick poron there to support the pcb for some extra flex (like what you did, I removed the middle foam and also those 4 tiny ones of the side). combiend with pc plate, they actually end up pretty flexible.
I'm definitely trying out taking off all the screws between pcb and the plate since the pc plate is causing the pcb to bend a lot. Nice video and wonderful ideas!
Any idea where we can get more pe foam? Any recommendations?
I have seen rolls being sold, but they're usually thicker... we need something like .5mm or so... I have been taking them out of boxes of electronics. I've been scouring the internet for esd pe foam bags, so when I find one, I'll share the links!
@@Keybored thanks so much!
I really do hope Glorious learns from this board lol. So much missed potential with just poor design!
I do too! It has potential, just needed some tweaks!
idk if I would attempt the flex mount mod... but holy mackerel! that pe foam is so simple and makes a huge difference. will definitely be doing this!
I suppose one side effect is that the under key lighting is both more muted and more diffused?
if you wanted you could technically cut small squares for where the leds are but I don'tt think that anyone wants to do that lol
It was so surprising! A thin sheet can do something like that? Lol. But you are correct, it may diffuse the lighting a bit
@noah - that's a good point! I personally like a muted light profile so I wouldn't but really good to have as an option
Do you recommend the Keychron Q1 or the GMMK Pro? I’m new in the custom mechanical keyboard world and I believe these are often considered head-to-head?
Can you make a guild out of a mkb87? And put Akko cs switches on it.
I think the MKB87 is actually very similar to the GK87! Check out the GK87 video and I think that mod should apply! Will try out some akkos on mine to see how they are
Hi! Nice video! Not the usual mods seen on other videos... btw, What stabs did you use in the brass plate? If durock v2, how did you make it fit?
Hi Pancho! Thanks! I used durock v2s for the black aluminum version! I used a precision file to enlarge the plate
can the flex cut mod work together with the pe foam mod? was thinking, flex cut mod + pe foam mod while removing the plate foam, anyone tried this?
honestly dont know why lots of you want the flex that much , if your board flex , it feel cheap , if your board pingy and hollow , it feel cheap as well , so what's the point going for the flex ? stiff typing like Tofu is still the most famous board.
Why do people want flex in their board?
It helps to dampen the bottom out when you're typing and it's gentler on your fingers and joints.
oml sounds so much better. Great video. I kinda wish glorious would’ve made it top mount instead. It probably would’ve sounded much better stock and it would’ve left room to potentially gummy worm o ring mod it as well. Speaking of that, I’ve seen a couple of videos of people modding their Tofus to make them a gummy worm mount so that they can achieve a similar sound signature as the unikorn. I just thought I’d share this idea with you since you are truly amazing at modding :)
Thank you so much Keagan! I love the gummy worm mod! Makes it sound great and feel nice! Like the Bakeneko!
I did the tape mod (3 layers) and it was a huge upgrade. Then I added the brass plate. I might try this mod tomorrow. Wonder if I should do it with the tape mod?
I wonder if you remove the stock case foam and replace it with poly-fill mod will it help with the flex of the bvoard and sound?
Watching you break down the design of the gmmk pro makes it obvious that glorious didn't do any product testing with external users.
IIRC their mice also launched with numerous complaints. Oh, and their panda switches. You would think they would learn.
It's a shame... It just needed a bit of refinement and it would have been great
@@Keybored Yea, I agree. A lot of people still like it though. They need to at least fix the sluggish stabs.
Anyway, great video! It's always interesting to see you come up with non conventional ways to improve keyboards. Recently decided to try your o-ring mod.
Okay everyone talks about the gaskets of the D65, how does a EU citizen, who does not wanna spend the US shipping costs, get their hands on these?
I wonder if there's an equivalent foam... maybe like a general purpose neoprene or similar?
Hi Dineox! The D65 foam is pretty hard to get here as well, and we order it from KBDfans :) Have to order it together with other things, because you'll end up paying $5 for the foam and $20 bucks for shipping lol
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Can you make the gmmk pro thockkk like you did with keychron Q1? and also use gateron oil king?
your mods made it sound like a straight out of the box piece of shit compared to ur baseline video in the beginning.
Did you put the light diffuser at the sides back?
Yup! I think without it, the assembly didn't work out
Hey friend 👋 you should go to green door geek and get the POM GMMK pro plate or order one of the FR4 plates in sure they are good too! And maybe if you want a really nice sounding GMMK pro that’s a little more thocc put some ink black v2s in there!!
I saved my GMMK pro, cuz I hated it and really didn’t like their switches…. Plus the board was so stiff. But putting the Pom plate with flex cuts as well as the inks make for a really really enjoyable typing experience! I actually put it back into rotation on my main PC over some of my other favorite boards atm…
I actually used the case foam and the plate foam provided from Glorious and I did end up taping the back of the PCB just cuz it always helps the sound a bit
Thank you for the suggestion! I ended up upgrading the plate to a hype keyboard FR4 plate and it did help with the flex as well!
Bought one Lite case and purchasing some awesome isolated flux cut PCB to put into it
What. I never knew people would actually want the plate to flex. Wat. Why would you want this? hahaha. It litteraly seems broken
Lol I guess softer typing experience? I personally like top mounts for their balance and sound
Great video. I will be doing the second mod. Awesome!
that flex cut....absolutely mad man
love your work!
Thank you so much!
why not just cut the gasket in half horizontally? That would prevent it from being squished and maintain softness even after closing the chassis...
More so that then gasket, it's actually the keyboard not having enough space and squishing the gasket down to essentially nothing haha
Thank you very much, the pe foam made my gmmk pro sound so much better.
great vid! im gunna try the second method w those durock poms
Durock poms are one of my favorite linears right now... Love the smooth clack they deliver...
Wow i did the foam mod to my gmmk pro sound good i mean after i watched your video. Thanks bro
It is a game changer! Should have came like this from the factory!
Did you do anything to the stabilizer ? cuz they sound amazing.
Haven't seen a comment asking the question: why the PE foam works such a wonder to the typing sound?
Haha... I think it's magic. I feel the pe foam being as bouncy as it is, helps to take the force of the switch bottom out and reflect it back up through the switch housing. The plate then takes it and amps it up, and the switch and keycaps do the same... Then you get magic
Is there much of a difference if you put D65s on the middle gasket points? I left out the side gaskets but I put them on every other point.
You can add them to the middle, but it will reduce some flex!
Have you ever tried to tempest mod (tape mod) your keyboard ? If not, you should try it.
Hi Max! Is this the one where you tape the underside of the PCB to increase its thocciness?
@@Keybored yeah, it looks amazing.
This is impractical, you'll never apply that much force to the keyboard to notice any difference.
Most people won't. You just need a tiny bit of give to have the impact... not like 3mm
Thanks for this! Just curious if there are any issues/risks with static from the PE foam?
I have been looking for a thin ESD pe foam to eventually replace this with. It was the bag the keyboard came with so I hope it is ESD... but to be safe
@@Keybored Con you post a link when you find one please?
It's so crazy the differences people like, I prefer my keyboards dead ass silent and want zero bounce.
:) the ultimate hobby of preference it seems
those GMMK pro mods sound so good! I just bought a GMMK in silver and plan on doing your sound mod with some black inks, polycarb plate and modded "GOAT" stabs. I was wondering if there were some alternatives to buying a silicone sheet to have the even and consistent results for spacing the keyboard case. Ideally something that could be found in a home would be wonderful.
I think you can also use o rings!
@@Keybored i can attest to that. lol. just actually modded by gmmk pro 15 mins ago. cut up some o-rings i got for free from a purchase tecsee carrots off of amazon a few months ago. 3mm diameter and 1mm thickness. superglued them to the underside of the top frame. also had to file the part of the plate where the stabs go through to use durock v2 stabs.
Hi, may I ask is there a battery inside this keyboard?
The flexible mount mod echos and sounds horrible to me.
I just want a quiet keyboard.
:) Keep it stock and it'll be quiet and muted!
uuuhhhhh i like the black one, the first one sound still pretty hollow to me, nice mod btw👏🏻👊🏻
:) Yup the black one is my favorite!
Thank you so much for this, did the sound verision and im so happy with the result! For sure worth it since it as you said comes with the keyboard so everyone has it available.
I can't believe that foam made it sound that much better. Like I don't really get it... Lol
I sat there scratching my head also... Then I couldn't stop typing on it out of sheer amusement and confusion
Only problem with the PE Foam mod is that it can come with static risks to the PCB :/ the one in the Jelly Epoch is ESD PE foam to prevent that risk. Believe the Reddit post explaining the PE foam mod has a comment that mentions this
you are correct maltezoa. I have been looking for a esd version... once i do find it, I'll link it!
@@Keybored pleeaaaaase do that when you do lmao I’ve been trying to find some myself
Tried the sound mod on my gmmk pro and it sounds pretty nice. It makes the board have a louder and deeper tone. Great vid!
Thanks Sai! Glad it worked out for you!
my favorite switches
*b R O w n S*
:) hope it doesn't trigger anyone
Quick question, will the foam in the sound mod interfere with the rgb diffusion?
Depending on thickness of the PE foam, it may slightly!
how does friction mounting work on this? like how does the pcb not fall off the switches with no screws attached to the plate?
The switches themselfs are a snug fit so it keeps everything sandwiched together!
@@Keybored oh that makes sense! Thank you for replying!! :)
I preferred the dampened sound. Great job!
I know this is an old video, but I'd be interested to see how it sounds with the silicone replacing the bottom case foam instead of that thin white sheet.
Glorious Pandas (that went through my own exhaustive quality control and lubing process) with the foam sandwich mod, durock v2s, aluminum plate and GLube, it's all I needed to make this keyboard sound and feel like a 1000$ one...
Thanks for the video.
Btw in latest plates (brass and pc included) any aftermarket stabs will work out of the box, I didnt have to sand or mod anything to fit the durock v2s!
That's great to hear! I'm glad that Glorious is starting to make small updates!
two things here, the foam is called poron - the other thing is, if you already use a saw why not remove the tabs completely, get 8mm poron foam sheet or eva etc., put it where you put the case foam and press fit the plate between the parts. don’t forget to also put a thin layer on the top somewhere
Hmmm... that is a very interesting proposal! Essentially, make a KBD67 Lite lol. Will have to think about that one
@@Keybored essentially a cheap mode board :P
How will it sound if you use aluminium plate with the thin foam instead on brass plate?
The sound isn't as poppy, but still improves!
Is it normal for some parts of my keyboard to be way louder and deeper than other sides ?
Certain keyboarda sound more even than others... A tell-tale sign of a better or worse design!
not sure why the PE mod wouldn't work with the flex mod - isn't it possible to just add that thin foam in with the rest of the assembly?
Hi Nihal! Without the tabs holding the entire assembly together, the foam on foam is a bit too thick, and it doesn't allow the switches to seat into the hot swap sockets properly. I had bunch of keys working and not working on and off, so decided it wasn't viable.
@@Keybored gotcha. such a shame though, both mods are amazing and it would've been great to combine them. this is by far the most creative mech mod video i've ever seen, thanks for sharing!