SCAM FURSUITS?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2020
- This week we discuss scam fursuits and take a look at where they come from and how these SCAMMERS are taking advantage of members of our community. If you see a scam listing on any website be sure to report it so we can put an end to this.
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My fursona is a “husky long fur dog fox mascot”.
LOLOLOLOL
Cool, mine is a “Halloween long fur suit blue husky fox dog mascot costume adult Xmas Xmas”
cool, mine is a "green frog spring dog fox short fur halloween costume"
Cwl mine is a fox...
These are some great species
I've seen furries at cons ages 10-13 with self-made fursuits that look like those, if not better in some cases.
Also, most of the people buying these are only buying them to hate on furries, I've seen a lot of TH-cam videos where someone pretends to be the weird furry friend, who has one of those, and it's just for hating on the fandom. Hopefully that goes away, because it gives not only furries, but especially us fursuit makers and cosplayers a bad name because they think we make things like that.
That's another frustrating aspect of these scam suits. They ultimately hurt the community many times over
Oh yeah, Like that Jaystation video where they “buy” a furry from the dark web.
@@thatonegreenfox1058 i bleached my eyes after watching that video *shudder*
Blackforest Ham I was really unsure on what emotion to feel after watching it.
Like the jaystation vid?
here a tip from an ebay buyer:
always check the seller positivity percent. if it is less than 90%, it's probably a scam.
Ok thanks
@@fallenflame1940 you are welcome
I noticed one of the sellers Ash checked out had a 98% rating, so I don’t know if that’s really the best way to check if these are real :/ they probably bought reviews or something (can you buy reviews on eBay?)
I really dislike Ebay's positivity percent system, it makes things way easier for scammers
The scammers have already figured out that high percentage rate equals better chance of sales. They don't buy reviews, they simply create enough dummy accounts to boost their reviews.
I saw a rip-off fursuit at TFF. The person wearing it was very small, so I think they were a child. I feel super bad for them. It was a bright dino or dragon suit. The original was in that crime show with the 2 fursuiters fighting.
Yeah its a real shame how that happens. People just don't know any better sometimes.
I feel like the majority of the fake suits I actually see are kids or teenagers, find these deals online and get their parents to buy them, not even knowing that it's a huge scam. It's a shame, I'm glad there is more out there warning people about it.
That’s sad. When I was a young YOUNG fur I was not stupid. I bought a mouth mover mask and made into my character. That stuck with me and I get great quality stuff for a small price. I suggest that for young furs who don’t have much money.
Thats so sad. But kids steal characters anyways. But still...sad.
@@ronaif I am not a young furry and customize mouth mover masks but I also make fursuits myself too. I am a begginer.
What is it with people and ripping off fursuits like this. How has anyone not sued them yet?
It's hard because most of these come from factories overseas
this is why once i finalize my sona design, im gonna get it legally copyrighted. so international copyright law applies
If I were a real suit maker like I ve been doing it professionally for 10 years all of my suits would have copyright protection if someone was to use my suit to sell their crappy cheap junk I would sue the ever lasting shit out of them...nobody's is gonna profit off of my hardworking except me and my workers
@@AshCoyote to hell with that Chinese cheap poorly built knockoff crap...the Chinese make wonderful electronic equipment and food but the rest of that shit they sell to the u.s. should be banned from entering the country.
@@swirrllfolfsky9803 same that is the best way to keep people from getting money off our fursona that like most of us took years to develoup and save up. I am going on year 15 of developing my fursona and just got them on paper. Now comes the hard part of trying to save up for either materials to make it or look long and hard out there for people who can custom make fur suit pieces indevidualy like paws then a head and then the legs and tail and wings since mine needs wings
A website _i dont know if its still up_ is literally selling "fursuiters"
For example: They're selling Sunny dingo for $400 down from $3000
Yup! That was fursuitforsale . com they were ripping off everyone
site is now down
@@swirrllfolfsky9803 That's kinda sad, I wanted to buy a fursuiter
(wait, buying people is illegal right?)
@@sassylebraix8009 lmao
Sunny should cost more than that
I feel like the only people who would buy one of these suits are young furs, who probably don't know much about the community 😬
That's very true. I think that's an area that really need attention as well. How do we show younger folks that this is not the way to get a suit?
I am a young fur and I am in my first year of the community, but even I know what a rip off fursuit is, That's why I plan on saving to buy the materials to make my own and mybe even when I become an adult and stop growing I will commission someone to make me a fursuit (probably from smaller makers it's cheaper and it gives them support and for some more confidence in their work!)
young furs probably know that comissioning suits is super expensive, so they just ask their parents to get them a cheap knock off suit for christmas or something, without really knowing it's actually ripping off someone's character.
@@slipknotgirl0272 Or perhaps their parents say they'll get them a Fursuit and don't know that it's a knock-off
@@trixie7759 that's exactly what almost happened to me. I'm getting into making fursuits, so my parents saw that i like fursuits and thought they would get me one. they wanted to get me a rip off one, they showed me it and thankfully i was able to talk to them about how that's not the actual suit. instead they just paid for some of the materials for me making suits. I'm really glad that they are supportive of my hobby though
Ash: “Canines don’t have round ears” me a wild dog: 😔✌🏻
Can we get some f's in the chat for this guy?
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Really one of the amazing things about the furry community is that our suits are not pass produced. Amazing makers and skilled artists put in time and love to create these truly exquisite carpets. Its a community effort and I think that's something really special.
10000% agree so much love goes into these creations
!! I agree !!
I love how small and personal the whole business is. It really allows new makers to be seen, while also supporting the bigger experienced makers. No one in this business in an exploitative company (expect maybe lemonbrat), just people putting love into their work.
I love wearing carpets!
I was at Anthrocon last year and I saw a kid wearing a rip-off of Rivalo’s suit. As expected, it was a piece of crap.
I also watched the fursuit parade that year, and I can tell you that a couple of rip-off suits were there.
God help us all.
The creature in your pfp is SO DARN CUUUTE 😍❤️
Dude, that sucks so much that someone especially a kid.
I'm not taking the side of the people making these but
They're kids
Can you really blame someone who doesn't know better?
@@questionable._.creations6286 I think they meant it's sad they're scamming kids but I don't know.
Those poor people that got ripped off. Imagine going to a parade In your shitty suit because that's all you have and now you haven't any money. I feel bad for them.
I would probably be upset or cry if someone tried doing that with my suit. I really wish there was something we can do to shut these scammers down.
Legit fursuits should have at least 4 digits in the price tag.
Oh definitely
But what about new fursuit makers? Their prices usually start at maybe $500 - $1000 dollars.But, at least you can tell if it's an actual amature suit from a shitty ripoff.
Literally no
@@bruleepup1812 I'm not a furry but I do follow and love what they do..and from what I hear a true legitimate suit will costs between 5 and 10 grand and it usually takes MONTHS to make..each one is a custom job..I've the ones I ve seen on the convention videos..then there are the really flat kinda plushy cheap looking ones..
For at least a new partial or full fursuit, yes.
I was cringing so much by seeing thos knockofs. Its clear to see the just want money and just dont care. BTW the begginig of the video made me smile. Thank you.
X3 I'm so glad it did
A few years ago, I had saved up a few hundred dollars for a fursuit... And I was so close to buying one of those scam ones on ebay and such. I'm so glad I made my own instead, I thankfully had my doubts about the quality of the product!
Imagine some school/sports team/company bought one without knowing what a furry is and started to use one of them and claimed the design as their mascot and then the person who owns the suit showing up like: ''hey that's me-''
Lol that would be a interesting story to bring up at your next con
Hey ash, just to clear up your confusion over the blurred spots on the pictures, they are trying to cover up watermarks that either the maker or suiter put on their pictures.
What's funny is that my mother suggested to get one online. I explained to her that there are loads of fursuit scams and that it's better if I just make one myself. (I know I can commission someone but that comes with it's own risks and I nor my mom have a PayPal account and it's just a LOT cheaper. Besides, I like being crafty
:3)
It is a super fun experience making your own fursuit and you get to learn a lot in the process.
@@AshCoyote you are also more connected with it because you made it yourself! :p
I like how they'v obviously blurred the originals watermarks and then the actual pics of the repros are aggressively watermarked.
Has anyone ever told you that you have an wonderful voice? It's oddly soothing, you should do furry asmr lol
Awrf thank you! I always thought my voice was a little weird X3 But I am glad that you think so
When I was new to the fandom, I wanted a fursuit really bad. So I asked my mom for it, (kuz I was 10), and I was soooo close to buying the cosmic wolf knockoff. I am so glad that I decided to make my own and now can make pretty good fursuits! The bottom line is...
Kids, make ur own trash instead of buying it.
I was 10 when my aunt almost got a scam suit
I'm so glad i went for dino masks when i was young fur and only bought actual fursuit masks when i knew better lmao
The weirdest scam fursuit I've seen was a rat but it's body was cheese
What 😭
Oh my I’m better don’t buy fursuit on those websites I’m nearly got scammed
I lot of folks get confused seeing how they are presented and 9 times out of 10 its not whats in the picture
Ash: Have you ever seen one in person?
Me: I've never even seen a furry in fursuit irl before....
i never go outside and im british. my neighbours are going to hate me as soon as i make my fursuit. ( still going to make it though because they r annoying )
It's awesome how pissed you're getting at this whole thing. I've been looking at getting a suit for a while (likely not gonna happen because I'm a broke-ass college student), and it's just awful how bad this makes furries look. Anyone inside the fandom knows that these are counterfeit, but anyone on the outside looking in... yeesh. The sad part is that I TOTALLY understand the appeal of this kind of thing because I've been looking for an inexpensive premade for forever. Keep up the awesome videos, Ash, you're doing a great job.
15:43 no, they're only used to seeing them on a dinner plate
This is why I’m making sure to commission someone who actually has customers and examples of the work they do.
Imagine one of my main Ocs with a knockoff fursuit name "Green eyed pink black edge long eared fox wolf mutt" is probably a possible one
Flame And friends productions mine would be “edgy traumatised blue eyed long fennec fox grey horn furry suit costume adults masquerade”
Mine would be "yellow droopy eye blue hunchback fursuit funny cat dragon scientist horn adult fancy dress furry beard tail
Mine would be "Blue eyed green pink yellow fruit cat wolf feline adult mascot for Halloween or parties"
This hurt to watch lol, Awesome video Ash! :)
Thanks Kona! I am glad you enjoyed it ^_^
Kona Fuzzbutt hiya
Why do this exist!!!!
P.S
Such a huge fan keep up the amazing work!
Thank you!!! I love making videos
I’m so early *confused screaming noises* also DARNED SCAMS I haven’t even seen it but it’s gonna be good (edit) ahhh yes my most liked comment is about scam suits Yare yare
YASSSSSSSSSSSS there are so many weird ones out there
Ash Coyote I agree and what’s with the scam suits and not shaving the fur like seriously 😑 and with the wonky jaw if it was supposed to move they probably just stuck in a taxidermy jaw TwT
You don't buying is a scam
What?
I feel like most new/amateur suit makers have moved from eBay over to Etsy.
Here last week when that one site popped up, they were selling a ripoff of my good IRL friend's fursuit, using a picture that said friend took of his own fursuit. For the record, this is a Miscief Makers suit being ripped off.
I showed him the listing and his response was "So it finally happened."
Yeah I'm super glad that website got taken down it was BAD. I've seen several of the rip-off designs in person and the quality just isn't there
Honestly, someone making a knockoff of your fursuit is basically a compliment lol
I know someone who almost bought one of these, thank god I told them not to. That would have been bad...
Yeah suits like these are never a good idea
@@AshCoyote Yeah... They aren't
I've had an experience seeing one of these ripoff suits, putting here since you we're wondering about any experiences.
I was at anthrocon and was heading to the front for the fursuit photo. There was a girl, most likely younger than me and I'm 14. The ripoff looked just like the ripoff versions you see online. I felt so bad because she ended up getting backlash, which I get but she was a little girl. She wouldn't know.
It was a ripoff of the suit at 3:48
I've never had a fursuit, even though I'm a fluffy, so I never knew about scammers making fake suits, but sadly I'm not surprised since a lot of scammers choose art items to rip off.
I have to admit that the purple thing has some pretty good handpaws
It's good to support real fursuit makers!
Oh absolutely
Hai! :3
Also, my Latrans bracelet just came in and I love it! Thank u!
I don't know if it'll happen anytime soon, but I hope someday China gets its act together and passes stricter regulations to prevent such rampant counterfeiting. It's not just in fursuits, it's everything.
These scammers shall BURN!!
i feel like all the unnecessarily pixelated parts of the image were where watermarks for the actual suit makers were in the original image
somehow your voice completely matches your suit and i absolutely love that
Hello, This is the earliest I could have been. Luv your vids.
Omg thank you so much!
If I’m being completely honest o saw a girl with a “Cotten candy wolf” that was exactly like quartz husky so it’s kinda sad to see it- but I mean come on
I thought from the beginning that it was a bad idea to buy on Ebay in general. And now watching this...
I'd better save my money, for something better.
Oh definitely! Support the artists within our community first
I reccomend etsy! There are scams there too, but it's very easy to check how many stuff they sold, reviews and vids.
Hey Ash, have you ever thought about getting a mic on the inside of your suit head so we can hear you more clearly? I'm not sure if that would work as well as I'm imagining. I don't have any hearing problems that I know of but I still have to either turn up your videos or turn on captions. You've got lovely content and I'm happy I found your channel! Just the slight muffled-ness is the only thing I could see needing improvement. Hope this doesn't come across the wrong way!
Oh I'll try and work on that!!! It's been a bit of a learning process tbh
I remember once wearing one of those wire mics so they definetly exist and are very small
I bet me making a suit by hand with no help, the cheapest materials and no experience would look better than those suits, although if I ever did make one I'd definitely get help and decent quality fur
I just found ur channel and already ur personality fits the coyote and ur voice
So are we not gonna talk about the absolute NIGHTMARE fuel on the top right corner!? 7:57
Oh my good god eww 😖🤣
I think people confuse mascots and Hollywood props to actual, genuine fursuits and that in itself is scary. Especially hearing that eBay mass produces actual fursuit creators. The only thing I've brought from eBay is a pillow and I'm kind of scared to search for a fursuit on eBay in general.
Those ripoffs will probably give anybody nightmares and it sucks that they are doing that. I mean you and I don't know how many others have hit many nails on the head with vids like this. I want to thank you for showing the huge differences that are hidden in plain site.
i decided to look on ebay for myself and some of them say FURRY COSTUME HUSKY DOG COSPLAY CARTOON whatever for 9.90 but then say 590.90 shipping, it's really funny
Every year some fursuit scam website that steal fursuit photo. Now more cheap knock offs. This is very concerning.
4:42
TELETUBBYS!!
So coming from a Chinese background, there's a saying in Cantonese 能骗就骗(néng piàn jiù piàn) which literally means “Scam whenever you can”.
That simba had big brain apparently
I’ve seen one in person I actually got to try the head on my partner was sadly scammed for one of these suits it was a black and white wolf with green eyes it was awful the mouth was not open so you can’t get anything to drink unless you take the head off it was huge on my head and it was like looking out of pin hole like if you took a pen and stabbed a piece of a paper and looked out (try) look out the hole and instead of being 3D printed or made out of foam it was made out of fleas and the cheap mesh that LavaFox uses
I’m glad that ash is spreading awareness for all the things we have in the furry fandom
I dont have a fursuit but, seeing peoples precious works just dismembered and botched hurts to look at, it is crazy how scummy and low some people really are. In a community of art and expression this is truly unfortunate and terrible that people want to rip people off. I love your content ash!
Thats why ima make one
So, Ive been wanting to get into fursuiting for awhile
SO THANK YOU
I almost convinced my dad to get me a scam maker when I first joined the fandom, I was only nine so I didn't know, but I'm so glad I didn't get it.
When i first joined the fandom I was thinking i was gonna buy when of these when i could afford it but luckily i quickly found it it was a scam and now i'm getting a custom mini partial commissioned.
I've seen Shadow Raccoon's video on stolen fursuits earlier this week. Forgot that EBay also sells these kinda suits as well. And since a lot of people use EBay, that's messed up on a major level.
Yeah there needs to be a better system to address the theft of intellectual properties like the character design
6:00
Ngl that fursuit looks quite similar to an Indonesian youtuber called Nakkikun like for real that looks a bit similar
Thanx for the video ash..I saw these on ebay..and pondered for days..my better self said no.I love this community too much to purchase one of these.Ripping people off is not my idea of fun
Thanks, I'll keep it in mind.
I love ash coyote, such a beautiful Yote!
That DHC support didn’t age well…
Not everyone is going to have the most top notch suit out there, especially beginners that make their own suits.
The difference is, there is _effort_ put into those ones, be it you bought it or made it yourself. These are rip off factory pumped suits, there was no effort or love put into it.
Your suit is beautiful! I hope I don't get scammed when I get a fursuit maker to make my Fursuit! :0
Oh yeah I have seen a knockoff cosmic woofy fursuit at fur the more 2020. It was certainly wild to see them in person, though I didn't personally interact with them
The part about donthugcacti definitely didnt age well
I once saw telaphone on there it broke my heart
Yeah its really sad to see
Yea it is I once made paws and tail for my self and posted pitures of it and to weeks later it was there (now my opinion they wernt the best) I was devastated. Oh yea I took them down the piture I took them down from the Web sight
Wisperes: I love ur videos!
between the sound effects and ash laughing and telling jokes I don't know what was more funnier, also I actually know someone who actually bought a knockoff fursuit 2 words for you nightmare fuel ⛽😱😲.
:0 thank you for the info I really appreciate it :D
Thank you coyote :D
You are so very welcome!
Seen a few of the "realistic" style Ebay/Wish suits, some with customization or some without, walking around at cons. Using an off-the-shelf head as a base for a "real" one is definitely something I'm familiar with, being a raptor mask and all, just wish someone mass-market would sell actual foam bases instead of ready-to-go but kinda trash premades you have to take back apart or paint over.
Yes I am late but when I was a new fur (I was maybe 9 or 10 😬) but I always liked to go on my moms computer and look at fursuits. I would often go on Wish or EBay and look at what was for sale. These scam suits were the first thing I saw 😬 I spent quite a bit of time saving up for one. Thank god that I learned how to tell a scam apart from something legit because if I hadn't I 100% would have bought one 🤦 always be careful when buying any kind of anything on the internet lol
I guess the easiest way to spot a fake is to look at the title as well. A "Wolf dog husky long fox coyote cat furry fursuiter cosplay animal party birthday costume funny" means the seller is just trying to make sure it shows up in as many searches as possible. I'd imagine a "genuine" fursuit makers wouldn't use something like that.
Also, country where it ships from is always a factor. A fursuit shipping from China sounds very dodgy, especially if there is more than one available.
Exactly! Its important to look through the listing thoroughly and try to make sure that you are not being ripped off.
Some of these scam suits look like my first time drawing an anthropomorphic animal (at least a headshot)
I was in a fursuit parade once and the guy in front of me had one of these 😂
Oh god-
BODYWHY is my mantra everyday - the reason I want a custom fursuit haha
Hi almost bought the scam of RiviloWolfs suit! I didn’t know it was a boot leg of hers at the time and luckily I came across her pictures and then realized omg this is a scam!
3:43 Pixellation around the crotch area looks like it's actually trying to hide a watermark (and the watermark looks like it was added by ANOTHER bootleg seller theyre ripping off!)
The maker that took a wallmart head and turned it into its own character thing was fennecat.
Unless someone else did it as well
I'm watching this at 2:00am and got to 12:29 and almost lost it. It's so hard trying not to wake up every one in the house
Not a fursuit, but I once ordered some photoshop software off ebay. They advertised it as new unopened. Although when I received it, it was opened and obviously a burned CD with a printed key. When I made a negative review saying exactly that they messaged me offering me stuff to remove my review. I left the negative review. I'm very hesitant to order off ebay since I'm convinced that is why some sellers have good reviews.
That has happened to me before too!
I bought one not knowing it was a fake, it's my PFP. It was only 500USD, and matched my fursona. Now I'm stuck with it, and unable to get an actual tailored suit, because they're beyond my price range.
Edit: watching this I actually found the suit I bought, at 3:28. Red fox on the left side.
People are bidding on these Ripoffs too... the thing how the names of the suits are a mouth full.
Seeing a rip off fursuit just extremely triggers me
Remember children, there is a definite difference between scammer suits and first time suits. First time suits are usually not sold, and they usually WANT criticism. Scammer suits are just... soulless.
"Canines don't have round ears! They never do!"
*African Wild Dogs would like to know your location*
Also: all Chinese furries are quaking.
I feel so bad for people who are in these countries and are furries, it really sucks to be in a country that's so messed up
i recently saw a post online, someone had fallen for one of these fake suits and was really angry that it wasn't like the photos,, I think it was a kid that's saved up too :(
It's possible to make a fursuit for less than £100 if you plan it right (I use minky blankets!!), I wish more people would research before buying this poop :( Some less-known makers have mini partials for about the same price as these walking nightmares !!
14:17 my fursuit looks EXACTLY like that one, markings, eyes, colors and all, but its a LOT higher quality and i wasnt scammed 😂😂🐾🐾
where would you suggest a fursuit maker to post their suits for sale? i'm not new to the fandom by any means but making suits is new for me, and the #1 question i have on it is where do i post them?
Thank you
You're welcome
10:15 what my computer sees as I retreat into my mind and engage in fantasy scenarios after having some drinks
Nearing the end of the video, I got a TikTok ad of a guy seeing a dog fursuiter and shooing it away. Shortly after, a message appears on the screen: "Expect the Unexpected."
wait, what-