Love those "ugly"-sounding SOU horns! The 80's were something to see as NS got itself sorted-out after its birth in '82. Thankfully, they left their N&W and SOU liveries in place a long time before everything was finally painted into the new NS scheme. High-hoods, dual control stands, bi-directional control stands, "hammerhead" lash-ups featuring new and old NS and N&W six-axle GE's. Coal trains all over the place. It was railfan heaven!
those "ugly" sounding SOU horns are the beloved Nathan P5 and, NS #3000, is an Ex-SOU GP38-2 High hood in SOU paint. I watched it get delivered to the TVRM (Tennessee Valley Railway Mueseum)
Flashback. I worked SRR GA Div Atlanta-Macon-Brunswick (and off seniority Chattanooga-Greenville). Great video, I watched and remembered sitting up there day and night....
Thanks much for highlighting SR rolling stock. My late Grandfather spent 40 years of his life as a switch man with SR. I have nothing against NS. Just wish there were more videos of SR. One final thought regarding SR. The Smithsonian only has one steam locomotive on display - Its the Southern Jupiter.
I sure do miss the old fallen flags of the southern and the N&W railroads brings back a lot of memories of when I was young boy I lived close to the n&w main line in waynesboro va
I bought this DVD. The highlights are the GP49 high hood units and the mid-train helpers. This youtube presentation is just a small sample of the DVD. Highly recommended!
I lived in Ky in 1983 and 1984 with the Norfolk Southern Rathole line less than 100 feet in front of my living room and bedroom windows. I remember seeing the horse painted on the engines for the first time. I miss the view I had.
Instead of foamers petitioning for more heritage units, how about we all petition the class one CEOs to make a time machine? Seriously this is what I consider the golden age of railfanning from the entire 20th century till around 2005. Nowadays it's all homogenized with GE widecabs, Safetran darth vader signals, and soulless "E" rebuilds.
I recently bought this dvd and may I say it was worth it seeing the fallen flags of the Southern Railway and the Norfolk Western railroad worth every penny
My father was a Southern Railway conductor. He said they got them with high hoods so they can draw a head from either end. The crew’s safety wasn’t a concern for them according to him.
Not anymore all their high hood sd40-2s have been converted into short hood units with one acceptation the first southern sd40 has been left the same and has been donated to a museum and will be painted in sou tuxedo paint
loganbaileysfunwithtrains well now there's the first Southern High Hood SD40 (not dash 2) restored and running in active service. Might have the first N&W SD40 restored into service too
I think they converted all the NW sd40s and the only reason they left the first southern engine alone was because it needed repairs and was out of service
I have all ways loved trains even at a early age my daddy retired from northfork southern but what I don't know is was it northfork & western or southern railway he retired back in 1969
Sadly for me, this all seems like distance past since I was born in 1986, by the time I could remember the NS and its black and white paint scheme had pretty much taken over!!! the few reminders are the ex-Southern high hoods used for helper and local services around here
4:02 I find it unusual that a train would have the lead locomotive running in reverse. I've always seen the lead locomotive with the front end facing forward with the auxiliary locomotives facing either forward or backward on the train.
Not all of the time, but I would say much of the time. The high hoods had either dual-controls (N&W units) or bi-directional controls (Southern units) so they didn't have to turn the locomotives around when changing runs. It saved time and money, and this was the number one reason that the Southern Railway and N&W ordered the locomotives this way.
"Stupid" is just an opinion. There was an actual reason for it. A couple of lines preferred long-hood forward operation because it was felt having the cab toward the rear offered better protection for the crew in a collision.
My was a Southern trainman. He said they had a high hood on the short end so they could draw a head from either end and carry a little more sand. Crew safety was not always on their mind.
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loved the old high-hood GP-30's! Thanks for putting this up!
Yep I love the Southern gp30’s and sd40-2’s / I’m glad this video is available
michael I bought the dvd also worth every penny
What a nice video! Absolutely love the classic fallen flag locomotives!
Love those "ugly"-sounding SOU horns! The 80's were something to see as NS got itself sorted-out after its birth in '82. Thankfully, they left their N&W and SOU liveries in place a long time before everything was finally painted into the new NS scheme. High-hoods, dual control stands, bi-directional control stands, "hammerhead" lash-ups featuring new and old NS and N&W six-axle GE's. Coal trains all over the place. It was railfan heaven!
those "ugly" sounding SOU horns are the beloved Nathan P5
and, NS #3000, is an Ex-SOU GP38-2 High hood in SOU paint. I watched it get delivered to the TVRM (Tennessee Valley Railway Mueseum)
FGC 1835 p5’s call you ugly too lol jk
P5s are a rare breed these days
They weren't all P5's, many were Leslie rs5t's or rs5trro's.
@@dmoneygc2086 I was so close to asking what type of horns these locos have, I'm trying to find one for my truck
Excellent video!! Big NS railfan but Always enjoy seeing the Great Southern and N&W paint.
☺✌Ty and Great Job!!
Flashback. I worked SRR GA Div Atlanta-Macon-Brunswick (and off seniority Chattanooga-Greenville). Great video, I watched and remembered sitting up there day and night....
Thanks much for highlighting SR rolling stock. My late Grandfather spent 40 years of his life as a switch man with SR. I have nothing against NS. Just wish there were more videos of SR. One final thought regarding SR. The Smithsonian only has one steam locomotive on display - Its the Southern Jupiter.
Love the high-rise gp30. at 1:20.
CSX Productions same, I live any GP30 lol
High Hood
I sure do miss the old fallen flags of the southern and the N&W railroads brings back a lot of memories of when I was young boy I lived close to the n&w main line in waynesboro va
Before NS,Two of its predecessors had a fleet of High Hood Units for years.
I bought this DVD. The highlights are the GP49 high hood units and the mid-train helpers. This youtube presentation is just a small sample of the DVD. Highly recommended!
love the old horn sound!!!?!😊
Erik Max Q M The New cast P5 could still be heard on many locomotives these days.
I love the horn
I hove the horns too!
I lived in Ky in 1983 and 1984 with the Norfolk Southern Rathole line less than 100 feet in front of my living room and bedroom windows. I remember seeing the horse painted on the engines for the first time. I miss the view I had.
Where can I buy this???
:O D.I.B.!? I'm such a big fan :D
I remember the old Norfolk & Western locomotives when I was a kid growin' up in WV in the 80's.
Instead of foamers petitioning for more heritage units, how about we all petition the class one CEOs to make a time machine? Seriously this is what I consider the golden age of railfanning from the entire 20th century till around 2005. Nowadays it's all homogenized with GE widecabs, Safetran darth vader signals, and soulless "E" rebuilds.
yes i miss the old signals. those vader ones suck. just how i fell.
Danville Rail Productions
E rebuilds? What are you talking about? Are you referring to the P42s? I don't know of any new E units
ShinyArc he’s talking about the SD60Es.
Yup
@@NOVARailandWeatherEnthusiasttrash
Great video - thanks for sharing
4:22 love those long p5 blast
I recently bought this dvd and may I say it was worth it seeing the fallen flags of the Southern Railway and the Norfolk Western railroad worth every penny
Thank you for your kind words! We appreciate the feedback.
DivergingClearVideo is there any more videos of Early Norfolk Southern Besides 1987 to 1989
@@donnyfurr9828 Just those two to this point. Plans are to release one on the early years of NS control of the line over Horseshoe Curve this fall.
DivergingClearVideo what are the white flags on the sides of locomotives for
@@donnyfurr9828white flag meant it was an “extra”
From what I understand running long good forward was for crash protection for the crew
No It was because the crew preferred it
And to keep from turning engines.
My father was a Southern Railway conductor. He said they got them with high hoods so they can draw a head from either end. The crew’s safety wasn’t a concern for them according to him.
Classic. Awesome horns
Have anymore video of it in Belleville and East St Louis and crossing over into St Louis?
Really nice dolly zoom on some of the segments! :-D
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It's good that you "talk" and explain in your videos. Like a documentary. Thanks.
This is absolutely amazing watching this type of videos
Matatan,. Ribirin H-S,
That sound @ 4:24!!!!!
I subscribed to your channel only now and I’ve watched this video about 20 times
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!? THAT’S WAY TOO MUCH TIMES!
I love early Norfolk Southern! What awesome looking diesels.
miss the mid train radio cars 😢😢😢
NS3210 Well said! It all looks the same. Bring back the old lines!
Wow great video. Do you do any DVD copies? Also just subscribed.
I swear NS is the king of high nose engines
Not anymore all their high hood sd40-2s have been converted into short hood units with one acceptation the first southern sd40 has been left the same and has been donated to a museum and will be painted in sou tuxedo paint
loganbaileysfunwithtrains But honestly that's all the high hoods I see is NS.. Although they are very rare nowadays
they have a few geeps that are still high hood that see alot of action but all their six axle units have been converted
loganbaileysfunwithtrains well now there's the first Southern High Hood SD40 (not dash 2) restored and running in active service. Might have the first N&W SD40 restored into service too
I think they converted all the NW sd40s and the only reason they left the first southern engine alone was because it needed repairs and was out of service
You can't beat the Southern Nathan P5 Horn!
Wish we still had high hoods.did see a Norfolk southern train running long hood forward thru bristol a couple months ago it was a sd 40
GReat great work
2:20 I spy two GP39xs leading that train.
Classic!
Weren’t the 2700 series GP38s?? 38-2s were in the 5000 series of units
i love the old caboose trains they were great!
I have all ways loved trains even at a early age my daddy retired from northfork southern but what I don't know is was it northfork & western or southern railway he retired back in 1969
Maurice Lucas it was Norfolk and western because Norfolk southern was created in the 80s
Sadly for me, this all seems like distance past since I was born in 1986, by the time I could remember the NS and its black and white paint scheme had pretty much taken over!!! the few reminders are the ex-Southern high hoods used for helper and local services around here
What did the white flag on the loco represent?
I wish I got to see southern railway
4:02 I find it unusual that a train would have the lead locomotive running in reverse. I've always seen the lead locomotive with the front end facing forward with the auxiliary locomotives facing either forward or backward on the train.
The front end IS facing forward. Southern always ordered everything with the long hood forward. The short hood is the read end.
GrnArrow092 southern railroad has always run long hood forward because it’s a southern railway tradition
I LOVE THE HORNS
I LOVE TRAINS
Cool
DVDs are through the website: www.DivergingClearProductions.com
DivergingClearVideo anymore of the early Norfolk southern videos besides this one and the 1986 to 87
trains were so much more genuine in the 90s
Most of the Southern Railway Locomotives are high hoods.
2:52 That horn sounds freaky
P5 horn
It’s a fouled P5
OSUEngel Nathan P5. Southern’s best!
Did they run long hood forward all the time?
Not all of the time, but I would say much of the time. The high hoods had either dual-controls (N&W units) or bi-directional controls (Southern units) so they didn't have to turn the locomotives around when changing runs. It saved time and money, and this was the number one reason that the Southern Railway and N&W ordered the locomotives this way.
Where is 3324?
Does NS own NKP 765?
Yes
Is it me or do southern railway high hoods look and sound angry
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I really don t understand about trains moving backwards
Southern ran their high hoods long end forward, just like a steam locomotive.
Running a locomotive backwards is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen in railroad history . 😂
That’s what I call being paranoid.
It’s stupid how they used to run locomotives facing back.
"Stupid" is just an opinion. There was an actual reason for it. A couple of lines preferred long-hood forward operation because it was felt having the cab toward the rear offered better protection for the crew in a collision.
@@DivergingClear
That’s way too paranoid. Yes, I knew that. I just feel is way too uncomfortable working that way for the crews.
My was a Southern trainman. He said they had a high hood on the short end so they could draw a head from either end and carry a little more sand. Crew safety was not always on their mind.
Love high hoods
Losing the Southern with it’s high hoods was a travesty.
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