Think the biggest eye opener for me this podcast was Bio talking how he doesn't consider us losing anything until the wave is under our tower. Went through all my VODs and realised how much I afk in top bush waiting for minions to come in when I could be using that time to affect the map just that little bit. Crazy high value podcast for me guys thank you
4:45 Being ranked 1 and a fill, makes a lot of sense. Since if you're playing the fill spot and comfortable with it, then the other players in your team are more likely to end up playing their strongest role.
Guys thanks so much for this! I would say this episode is up there with the 5 best. I learned so much and really got excited about playing top lane. It was amazing to have three challenger players look at my gameplay for half an hour. I'm super grateful for that, you're the best. Special thanks to Biopanther! Hope that Curtis and Nathan invite you back to the legendary BBC couch sometime in the future! Cheers, Daniel.
This man is a savant! What a firehose of information and its crazy to realize that's only the tip of the iceberg in terms of all of the micro, macro and matchup knowledge he has stored in is head. Amazing stuff.
This content was literal gold. I was hovering around high-plat bouncing around with a slightly positive 50% win rate, but after watching this realized how unintentional I was during the laning phase. Just worked on being aware of the wave and jungler positioning, and having more of a game plan than only the immediate trade, was finally able to succeed in my promos!
Probably my favorite episode so far (and I do NOT play top lane). The way BioPanther talks about League itself is just so eye-opening, I'm really glad you guys invited him. I love the podcast, keep up the good work!
This makes me excited to play top lane, this episode disproved all the negative narratives I had on the role and what I am capable of doing to win games.
i absolutely love how curtis and nathan spend basically the entire time just asking questions. i dont even comment on this website ever but i had to let y'all know this is 10/10 content
this is the best guide for top lane I've seen, and I've paid for some top lane patreons and skillcapped before. Great stuff as always, guys. As a Garen main, I'm just a little sad that there weren't any vods where the viewer played a scaling champ and had to concede pressure early. I would love to hear Bio's thoughts about it.
As a garen main, you are an early-midgame powerhouse that takes ignite and goes for kills early lmao, if you're playing garen as a passive scaling laner, you're missing the identity big time
@@kkdj20garen loses early to most champs. He can’t trade until he gets 1100 gold for berserker greaves or whip for phase rush proc. Hes a mid game champ that needs item powerspikes. You can also look up coach chippys guide for garen.
Thank you so much for getting into the details in Top Lane. Really appreciate how the concepts we always talk about were talked about in the top lane POV
Yo, as a jungler (+support secondary) this episode was extremely helpful. I don't even play top but this helped me a lot to understand the wider game. Funnily enough I was playing some random normal games, got into a Jax v Malphite matchup and I completely carried the game out of a very rough spot for me by everything discussed in the VODs.
Foreal Curtis and Nathan content like this I'm sure will absolutely pop off on youtube. 3 ppl doing vod reviews is dope because everyone throws in their opinions and discusses what they would do in a situation. Super informative.
Or super exposing of how much better of a coach and player this guy is compared to them they are a joke compared to him and his knowledge. It’s so obvious they are not sure of any of the things coming out of their mouths while he speaks every word like it’s unbreakable concrete due to how much conviction and experience he has actually playing the game at high elo
The thing about actually showing up to every single objective is gamechanging, immediately put it into action and while I didnt have a cs lead or really a level lead, I ended up hard stomping because it was just always 4v5 at drakes and heralds
I love this! i watched all the way through and brought alot of value on macro play as a toplaner. I would love to see this kind of discussion and review more in the future!
Really great Episode and I love that you've started doing vods and talking about in game play! Really valuable. As an ADC I would really appreciate an equal indepth episode on the ADC role. Thanks for all the amazing content and keep it up 🙏.
This was really informative for me, as an ADC player, I realized that when I play Ezreal, I need to be impacting the map early, especially if I am stomping my lane. It makes no sense for me to stay bot. Thank you for reinforcing that idea with this video. I also loved the concept you guys taught me about knowing what your champs identity is. That helped me re-evaluate my play as well!
I love that you guys talk about riven at the end here. I found riven to be the most fun champ for me when I started league. Th melee, dashes, shield, execute. So much skill expression. Maybe not the best champ to learn the game with. But I'm more than happy to have done so ::)
8:25 Biopanther said to have good flex picks if you are a Fill Main Some flexible champs I play for this very reason: Yorick (Top, Mid, Jungle) Kled (Top, Mid, Bot) Pantheon (Top, Mid, JG, Bot, Sup)
couldn't have come at a better time. i switched to jg not too long ago because i just felt so useless in top. it's mainly just adc meta rn and the only real way to influence that is to not play top
I think we dont hear alot about those smaller decisions that over time are affecting the game, (befit a very powerful interaction I get your point) but its not talked about enough because it's but so hard to quantify. Those micro decisions. Waiting a second konger that dominoes over to slow up a team or objective, we could mever really know the true impact of it. Many sonedaybon the future when we all have netter access to AI a team ofnworlds plays after having their matches and feedback served to this AInover years it cold show us but that still feels assg off.
Riot August who has been working at riot almost since the beginning said on his stream many times that trinity force is objectively OP on Jax but people including pro players troll going for sunderer instead 49:14
Sunderer's spellblade proc is op and mythic passive suits Jax's hybrid damage very well. While winrate of Trinity is higher, low pickrate makes data less accurate.
Wow you guys are so bad compared to this guy and it still makes me laugh my ass off every time I hear the phrase end of review. There is no such thin* as an end of review mistake because are you just going to ignore the rest of the mistakes you made and didn’t know about mid game like it so anti improvement
YOU TWO TOGETHER … are ..ALONE YOU ARE THE BEST SOURCE FOR LEAGUE INFORMATION.. TOGETHER … AND I PROMISE YOU THIS…YOU ARE THE BEST LEAGUE OF LEGENDS COACHING ORGANIZATION THERE IS AND NOBODY EVEN COMES CLOSE… PLEASE NEVER STOP!!!!AND PLEASE PLEASE MAKE YOUR PODCAST AVAILABLE ON PANDORA GUYS WE NEED YOU WHEN WE ARE DRIVING WE NEED YOU WHEN WE ARE AT OUR 9-5s AND WE NEED U IN THE HOSPITAL WHEN OUR WIVES GIVE BIRTH TO OUR CHILDREN THAT WILL GROW UP TO BE THE FUTURE FAKERS AND DOPAS AND (THESHYS)((debatable)) (((fight me))) YOU TWO ARE FUCKING AMAZING!!!!!
Just hit Diamond for the first time with 70% win rate after playing the game for 4 years. Wanted to thank both of you, Nathan and Curtis, for all the valuable information you put out. Biopanthers advice on proper utilization of lull states and how to have an impact as a top have helped me tremendously as well! Trust the process everyone! Good luck with your climb if you're reading this far :)
i was given a penalty for "verbal abuse" sure that's fine no problem there. then a few months later i was given another penalty for the exact same game. i submit a ticket to riot and their response was "From my review it seems that this warning was likely sent in error, so you, your honor, and your account should be perfectly fine!" except the fact that they didn't fix anything. yesterday i was banned from league for 3 days for literally nothing. im waiting for a response from the support team but its going to be the same situation. i have everything on file if you want to see it, and i dare you to say i'm broken by concept.
Hey guys I don't know if you're aware but Tarzaned is doing a climb in korea and reached masters with a 70% win rate, I would like to know your opinion on this because he's the very antithesis of everything we discuss in this podcast. Would love to hear your opinion on this.
i like that he recommends Riven for noobs bcs he is finally one who aknowledges the champ has really low skill floor and is VERY easy and forgiving to play
What do you think about early dragons? I heard that early dragons or just dragons, in general, is a bait for many players, where instead of dragon you can get more gold sides lanes or midlane and a lot of time people throw their lead by forcing dragon fights. Just wanted to hear your thoughts on it.
You guys are some of the sorriest coaches I’ve ever witnessed like I’m glad I saw this video because it showed me why you two are literal scammers to anyone you convince to pay you for coaching.
Question for you guys... is it best to find the role you like and then the champ you like in that role or find the champ you like and play the role it is (especially if its a mono-role champ like Ornn)?
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Think the biggest eye opener for me this podcast was Bio talking how he doesn't consider us losing anything until the wave is under our tower. Went through all my VODs and realised how much I afk in top bush waiting for minions to come in when I could be using that time to affect the map just that little bit. Crazy high value podcast for me guys thank you
4:45 Being ranked 1 and a fill, makes a lot of sense. Since if you're playing the fill spot and comfortable with it, then the other players in your team are more likely to end up playing their strongest role.
thank god. this one isn't lost to the Australian woods 🙏🏾
We got a police escort for this episode. - Nathan
As a toplaner I am so excited for this episode. I try to use your review and mental concepts but really hungry for top lane specifics.
lol same, how hlepful was this video for u tho
Guys thanks so much for this! I would say this episode is up there with the 5 best. I learned so much and really got excited about playing top lane. It was amazing to have three challenger players look at my gameplay for half an hour. I'm super grateful for that, you're the best. Special thanks to Biopanther! Hope that Curtis and Nathan invite you back to the legendary BBC couch sometime in the future! Cheers, Daniel.
What are the other 4?
This man is a savant! What a firehose of information and its crazy to realize that's only the tip of the iceberg in terms of all of the micro, macro and matchup knowledge he has stored in is head. Amazing stuff.
This content was literal gold. I was hovering around high-plat bouncing around with a slightly positive 50% win rate, but after watching this realized how unintentional I was during the laning phase. Just worked on being aware of the wave and jungler positioning, and having more of a game plan than only the immediate trade, was finally able to succeed in my promos!
Probably my favorite episode so far (and I do NOT play top lane). The way BioPanther talks about League itself is just so eye-opening, I'm really glad you guys invited him. I love the podcast, keep up the good work!
This makes me excited to play top lane, this episode disproved all the negative narratives I had on the role and what I am capable of doing to win games.
i absolutely love how curtis and nathan spend basically the entire time just asking questions. i dont even comment on this website ever but i had to let y'all know this is 10/10 content
I’m the jax vs kayle guy haha, didn’t think my vod would make it on the episode. Thanks for bring it on! This is eye-opening to me. Love the show ❤
I’m transitioning from Support to Top Lane, so your vod was a great opening mate!
@@otteration9891 glad it helped!
this is the best guide for top lane I've seen, and I've paid for some top lane patreons and skillcapped before. Great stuff as always, guys.
As a Garen main, I'm just a little sad that there weren't any vods where the viewer played a scaling champ and had to concede pressure early. I would love to hear Bio's thoughts about it.
As a garen main, you are an early-midgame powerhouse that takes ignite and goes for kills early lmao, if you're playing garen as a passive scaling laner, you're missing the identity big time
@@kkdj20garen loses early to most champs. He can’t trade until he gets 1100 gold for berserker greaves or whip for phase rush proc. Hes a mid game champ that needs item powerspikes. You can also look up coach chippys guide for garen.
@@kkdj20 also if garen goes phase hes more of a late game powerhouuse
Thank you so much for getting into the details in Top Lane. Really appreciate how the concepts we always talk about were talked about in the top lane POV
Every time Bio says "my thing is" you know he's about to drop some crazy wisdom
Yo, as a jungler (+support secondary) this episode was extremely helpful. I don't even play top but this helped me a lot to understand the wider game.
Funnily enough I was playing some random normal games, got into a Jax v Malphite matchup and I completely carried the game out of a very rough spot for me by everything discussed in the VODs.
Foreal Curtis and Nathan content like this I'm sure will absolutely pop off on youtube. 3 ppl doing vod reviews is dope because everyone throws in their opinions and discusses what they would do in a situation. Super informative.
Or super exposing of how much better of a coach and player this guy is compared to them they are a joke compared to him and his knowledge. It’s so obvious they are not sure of any of the things coming out of their mouths while he speaks every word like it’s unbreakable concrete due to how much conviction and experience he has actually playing the game at high elo
@@TAGGdinc hello what? more like they not pretending to know how top champs works,, why are you being such a asshole for lol
The thing about actually showing up to every single objective is gamechanging, immediately put it into action and while I didnt have a cs lead or really a level lead, I ended up hard stomping because it was just always 4v5 at drakes and heralds
This is very eye opening even for a mid lane point of view, great episode!
thx for this podcast, i learned alot from biopanther, hes so smart about the game
I love this! i watched all the way through and brought alot of value on macro play as a toplaner. I would love to see this kind of discussion and review more in the future!
Wow, what an amazingly insightful interview and discussion. Thank you all.
what an incredible amount of content this one has
Really great Episode and I love that you've started doing vods and talking about in game play! Really valuable.
As an ADC I would really appreciate an equal indepth episode on the ADC role.
Thanks for all the amazing content and keep it up 🙏.
Fantastic episode, really learned a lot here! As a top/adc player I really appreciated this one
This was really informative for me, as an ADC player, I realized that when I play Ezreal, I need to be impacting the map early, especially if I am stomping my lane. It makes no sense for me to stay bot. Thank you for reinforcing that idea with this video. I also loved the concept you guys taught me about knowing what your champs identity is. That helped me re-evaluate my play as well!
I love that you guys talk about riven at the end here. I found riven to be the most fun champ for me when I started league. Th melee, dashes, shield, execute. So much skill expression. Maybe not the best champ to learn the game with. But I'm more than happy to have done so ::)
Thank you for this. Was great to watch, really enjoyed it.
2 hours WoW! this is going to be a really in depth learning about top lane!
Will we ever get a Jungle Special podcast?
8:25
Biopanther said to have good flex picks if you are a Fill Main
Some flexible champs I play for this very reason:
Yorick (Top, Mid, Jungle)
Kled (Top, Mid, Bot)
Pantheon (Top, Mid, JG, Bot, Sup)
I’m loving these guest episodes! 🥳
Les goooo! The fellas deliver
Could we get an adc guide aswell rlly love your guys content
I really enjoy swain. Transferring into a demon and tanking a bunch of dmg. Nice thing is that he can b played top mid sup and apc
amazing video!
what an amazing video, thank you
FINALLY SOME TOP LANE SPECIFICS ❤
Great video ❤
Nathan subjected to the office chair.
Let each other talk god damn
fr, if ADD was a video
couldn't have come at a better time. i switched to jg not too long ago because i just felt so useless in top. it's mainly just adc meta rn and the only real way to influence that is to not play top
Can you actually do this kind of video for all lanes? :o
I think we dont hear alot about those smaller decisions that over time are affecting the game, (befit a very powerful interaction I get your point) but its not talked about enough because it's but so hard to quantify. Those micro decisions. Waiting a second konger that dominoes over to slow up a team or objective, we could mever really know the true impact of it.
Many sonedaybon the future when we all have netter access to AI a team ofnworlds plays after having their matches and feedback served to this AInover years it cold show us but that still feels assg off.
1:26:19 omg the synchronised no! loool
This guy has a lot of things. "My thing is..."
But, mates, let him talk... Good one anyways!
22:00 he doesn’t do anything!! 😂
Try not to point to the screen, we can't see what you're pointing too!
Riot August who has been working at riot almost since the beginning said on his stream many times that trinity force is objectively OP on Jax but people including pro players troll going for sunderer instead 49:14
Sunderer's spellblade proc is op and mythic passive suits Jax's hybrid damage very well. While winrate of Trinity is higher, low pickrate makes data less accurate.
Yes!!!!!!!!!!
Great video, but my thing is like
This bbc viewer looks like the actor Taron Egerton
I'm the better BIO. ..
goooollldddd
Wow you guys are so bad compared to this guy and it still makes me laugh my ass off every time I hear the phrase end of review. There is no such thin* as an end of review mistake because are you just going to ignore the rest of the mistakes you made and didn’t know about mid game like it so anti improvement
This is exactly what I needed
YOU TWO TOGETHER … are ..ALONE YOU ARE THE BEST SOURCE FOR LEAGUE INFORMATION.. TOGETHER … AND I PROMISE YOU THIS…YOU ARE THE BEST LEAGUE OF LEGENDS COACHING ORGANIZATION THERE IS AND NOBODY EVEN COMES CLOSE… PLEASE NEVER STOP!!!!AND PLEASE PLEASE MAKE YOUR PODCAST AVAILABLE ON PANDORA GUYS WE NEED YOU WHEN WE ARE DRIVING WE NEED YOU WHEN WE ARE AT OUR 9-5s AND WE NEED U IN THE HOSPITAL WHEN OUR WIVES GIVE BIRTH TO OUR CHILDREN THAT WILL GROW UP TO BE THE FUTURE FAKERS AND DOPAS AND (THESHYS)((debatable)) (((fight me))) YOU TWO ARE FUCKING AMAZING!!!!!
40 minutes in and this is amazing. It makes me wonder what your ADC episode will look like lol
Finally some coach curtis top lane content
Just hit Diamond for the first time with 70% win rate after playing the game for 4 years. Wanted to thank both of you, Nathan and Curtis, for all the valuable information you put out. Biopanthers advice on proper utilization of lull states and how to have an impact as a top have helped me tremendously as well! Trust the process everyone! Good luck with your climb if you're reading this far :)
Now all we're missing is an ADC episode (please please please)
i was given a penalty for "verbal abuse" sure that's fine no problem there. then a few months later i was given another penalty for the exact same game. i submit a ticket to riot and their response was "From my review it seems that this warning was likely sent in error, so you, your honor, and your account should be perfectly fine!" except the fact that they didn't fix anything. yesterday i was banned from league for 3 days for literally nothing. im waiting for a response from the support team but its going to be the same situation. i have everything on file if you want to see it, and i dare you to say i'm broken by concept.
why you gotta be so rude.@@new_chapter-pt7fk
I send all my newbie friends toplane until they learn what trading means...and to acknowledge what it's like to be in melee range intentionally.
Dude, I'm watching this at night, and this white-ass wall is burning my eyes. I have low brightness.
Bio Panthers reviews were incredibly valuable to me. Highly appreciated his insights
Hey guys I don't know if you're aware but Tarzaned is doing a climb in korea and reached masters with a 70% win rate, I would like to know your opinion on this because he's the very antithesis of everything we discuss in this podcast. Would love to hear your opinion on this.
Goated episode
its not even been 2 hours 💀
@@ebile watching on 1x speed like a pleb 😊
i like that he recommends Riven for noobs bcs he is finally one who aknowledges the champ has really low skill floor and is VERY easy and forgiving to play
What do you think about early dragons? I heard that early dragons or just dragons, in general, is a bait for many players, where instead of dragon you can get more gold sides lanes or midlane and a lot of time people throw their lead by forcing dragon fights. Just wanted to hear your thoughts on it.
1:30:05 thats not true, the tower loses its extra defense at 5 minutes. its fine at this point
TOP LANE ENJOYERS RISE UP
now we need an ADC episode
We will make it happen in the future.
You guys are some of the sorriest coaches I’ve ever witnessed like I’m glad I saw this video because it showed me why you two are literal scammers to anyone you convince to pay you for coaching.
too much skipping back and forth makes it hard to follow. pause the replay and talk about it instead of spam skipping
I find it amusing that Nathan referred to Curtis as a support. As a jungle main, you *are* his support. ;)
Bro I've been waiting for this sort of content, especially top lane hell yeah
Please fix your mic quality. The content is great but hard to listen to cause you can hear the guest breath constantly
awesome episode -I can't believe this is free content!
Stop interrupting eachother with pointless stuff
that guy need some sun in the skin . he look like a ghost
Praying for the adc episode🥲
big fan curtis keep it up
Excellent video!
I see that byopanter have a very good ability to calculate what is about to happen and can easily decide what the best option is to take.
Great video, but should have used the colors to match the health bars. Saying the blue minion blue health bar sion is red is very confusing haha
What is his thing again?
My thing is - oh!
Jax and sett in the thumbnail, what did BBC 🤤 mean by this?
1:26:17 actually pissed myself
57:00 Riven with true dmg or %hp dmg? Yeah, I have dreamt about that, too. Wet the bed a little.
Finally some love to the top lane :D definitely looking forward to this one being a top laner in master
you guys should have a sponsorship deal with benq, or put some tape over that label
Fun game take a shot everytime he says “it doesn’t matter”
Question for you guys... is it best to find the role you like and then the champ you like in that role or find the champ you like and play the role it is (especially if its a mono-role champ like Ornn)?
I think it its parts of both tbh
1:26:17 love the reaction 😂
bro why Curtis so built
just what i needed to bus
"maybe an hour"
ooo top lane
OMG!
ADC dire wolf alumni next pls!