Welby's jaw-dropping Bible blunder

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  • Do Christians want to drown children who 'might turn out to be gay'? LGBT activists Jayne Ozanne and Peter Tatchell certainly think so and Archbishop Justin Welby seems to agree with them.
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  • @katemalcolm8847
    @katemalcolm8847 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Satan is the father of lies, a distorter of the truth, Jesus is the Way the Truth, and the Life.

    • @davidmaclean3965
      @davidmaclean3965 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely right!!
      Church of England is Not a church of God. It approves LGBT behaviour, which is perversion!
      Ungodly!!!

    • @paullittle5200
      @paullittle5200 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hebrews 4:12

    • @J_a_s_o_n
      @J_a_s_o_n ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amen

  • @bodyer2120
    @bodyer2120 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    The irony and hypocrisy of Peter Thatchel is sickening. He was the man who campaigned to have the age of consent reduced to 12 years old. Such an advocate for children he is not. He's not even a father, he's a creep.

    • @paulgibbons2320
      @paulgibbons2320 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That is appalling. Someone with such an attitude has no place preaching.

    • @bodyer2120
      @bodyer2120 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@paulgibbons2320Hi Paul. You drew my attention to this article again and I listened to it for the second time. Welby is such a coward. He shouldn't be involved in church matters at any level.

    • @paulgibbons2320
      @paulgibbons2320 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a product of the times.
      @@bodyer2120

    • @andybray9791
      @andybray9791 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Even Douglas Murray isn’t like tatchell

    • @bodyer2120
      @bodyer2120 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@andybray9791Douglas is the sort of gay that when he introduces himself to others, he doesn't mention his sexuality. Tatchell, on the other hand, wants to ram it down your throat and ask you if you know any young boys who need a 'good friend'. I have gay friends but he sickens me.

  • @bobwestwood7147
    @bobwestwood7147 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Welby has been a politician from the start. Terrible for such a man to be head of the anglican church.

  • @tezzaj777
    @tezzaj777 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Feeling unsafe may just mean someone disagreed with me.

    • @aclark903
      @aclark903 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Quite. Feel free to go back to Zambia.

    • @susanc4622
      @susanc4622 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly.

  • @paulsmith3966
    @paulsmith3966 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Those people who don't subscribe to the Church of England's traditional teaching on marriage should be honest enough to simply leave the Church of England. Why don't they?

    • @scinformation7229
      @scinformation7229 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because they want to dismantle the C of E from the inside.... that's why you get Rev Buzzy-Wings the trans vicar of Fuck-Up-Ville.

    • @peterjones9786
      @peterjones9786 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They are doing exactly that.

    • @PH-ih1pn
      @PH-ih1pn ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I agree. Go create a gay, lesbian, non gender religion and stop destroying the bible.

    • @PH-ih1pn
      @PH-ih1pn ปีที่แล้ว

      It shows that The C of E is truly part of the establishment and has nothing to do with eternal truths or the bible teachings.

    • @juliepeters3716
      @juliepeters3716 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Because their aim is not to just to redefine marriage but is actually to destroy the church.

  • @NhwNews
    @NhwNews ปีที่แล้ว +87

    End time deception in full display. End time apostacy in full display. "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil".

  • @Itscoldupnorth
    @Itscoldupnorth ปีที่แล้ว +105

    It is pity I never hear rebuttals like this presented on the BBC.

    • @casperdog777
      @casperdog777 ปีที่แล้ว

      you never will , the BBC is biased against Christianity (see the book ''The Noble Liar'')

    • @bluedragon7925
      @bluedragon7925 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      But no surprise.

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 ปีที่แล้ว

      The BBC has deliberately decided that none of its' religious correspondents should be practising Christians - in the interests of 'balance'.

    • @Itscoldupnorth
      @Itscoldupnorth ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hb1338 I can well believe that.

    • @Jack-fs2im
      @Jack-fs2im ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I stopped paying the bbc 8 years ago saving £1200 happy days

  • @prob316
    @prob316 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    V troubling indeed, the Archbishop should consider his qualification to his office.

  • @richb227
    @richb227 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The 'Church of England' has been gone for many years, and is only getting further and further away.
    I pray people will return to Orthodoxy.

  • @johnschuh8616
    @johnschuh8616 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Simply the archbishop is afraid to stand up for his flock.

  • @shirleyavarell2674
    @shirleyavarell2674 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    To disagree with someone’s choice is not discrimination. 😊

    • @vhawk1951kl
      @vhawk1951kl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Telling left from right, live from neutral, hot from cold, salt from sweet coarse from fine is discrimination which means to detect difference and it is not only a virtue, is is essential, but seemingly that information has yet to filter through to the Elsies(lower classes) who seem to have got it into their noddles that discrimination rather than be an essential capacity is some sort of sin.

  • @littleboots9800
    @littleboots9800 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I guarantee the gay guy that said he felt safer in Zambia than in the CofE was rather more discreet about his proclivities there than he is here. As for Welby throwing the African Bishops under the bus, I am disgusted. I cannot believe he allowed Tatchell to misrepresent their words and frankly, he no longer has any authority to rebuke anyone.
    The Africans are the ones that should be rebuking us!

  • @ElzevereBlock
    @ElzevereBlock ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When anyone starts moving the goalposts especially with Christian teaching, we are in dangerous territory.

  • @louisemacardle4216
    @louisemacardle4216 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I do hope the Archbishop of Canterbury gets to see this video.
    I am so disappointed in him in regards to this encounter. He had the opportunity to rebuke lies and assert God's truth...

    • @rosemarywilliams3235
      @rosemarywilliams3235 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Jellybaby has minders who ensure that critical messages are weeded out before he gets a chance to read them. I think the same applies to the Bible: if the Bible disagrees with Woke, the Bible has to go.

    • @ninaballerina2807
      @ninaballerina2807 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rosemarywilliams3235 Indeed, no surprise that Godless like yourself should feel threatened by the very existence of a Book since nothing else could expose the likes of you so utterly. Suits you right too.

    • @RevvedUpBiker
      @RevvedUpBiker ปีที่แล้ว

      He's a weak man who has no backbone in standing on God's Word. Where's his shield? Where's his sword, his breastplate or helmet? He's weak and defenseless because he's not walking in the way God wants us to walk.

    • @amapola53
      @amapola53 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wonder if he believes that the Bible is the final authority.

  • @aidankiely9672
    @aidankiely9672 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    The mistake that Archbishop Welby is making here is to think that these people represent a large number of people. They don’t, as they are extreme even by the standards of those who would like to see the church change its position on these matters.
    He doesn’t need to compromise with them or try to please them, and he’s never going to anyway.
    How to always be right: state your case, claim that any opposing argument threatens your very safety, so that if anyone even gives voice to that opposing case, they are automatically harming you and thus should not be listened to. What these people mean by being safe is never having to hear whatever they dislike. Mr Tatchell is an atheist anyway.
    We should call inventing truth for what it is: lying. I know, because I know this mentality well: I once identified with it. What changed? I grew up! I find it genuinely distressing that anyone who isn’t still a student behaves like this.

    • @ninaballerina2807
      @ninaballerina2807 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just as God has since of old forewarned of them: They make Falsehood their refuge! Is it any wonder therefore all their lies and false witnessing will fall on their own heads to their eternal disgrace., praise God!

  • @MH-zq4nl
    @MH-zq4nl ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As someone who got the left boot of fellowship from the Cof E has said, If sin is no longer sin, we have no need of a Saviour. Welby has made his denomination defunct. He reveals himself to be amongst those that Paul speaks of in Romans who imagined that sin needed to abound so that grace could abound. Grace does indeed abound to the sinner, when he repents. Repentance means agreeing with God as to what constitutes sin. When we decide what is and isn’t sin, we replace God with ourselves. Let’s hope he can face into his error, humble himself and repent.

  • @davidmoorhouse8190
    @davidmoorhouse8190 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come; thy will be done; on earth as it is in heaven..

    • @paullittle5200
      @paullittle5200 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Often wondered what these words meant, then I left the Church of England and it was explained to me that this was one of the reasons Jesus came down to earth to show what would happen on a small scale (ie his miracles) that which would happen on a restored earth, as the Heavens are now cleansed,(Revelation 12:7-12)and from Jesus prophecies we know that his kingdom is imminent.

  • @jimwells8495
    @jimwells8495 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Excellent video. Well done to the Christian Institute. So clearly presented.

    • @xvsupremacy7190
      @xvsupremacy7190 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes well done. My mother tried to abort me before I was born and daily would tell me she hated me, wished I was dead and that she never wanted me. But even as a child I understood she had lost her mind at widowhood , and decided to love her unconditionally. “Whilst you were in the womb I knew you …”. God is a father to the Orphan. !

    • @TheSalmuse7
      @TheSalmuse7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      wow what a beautiful testimoniny to come out of such a horrid and sad situation but you are so right.
      When your Mother or Father forsakes you God will take you up.
      I forget the scripture but He is indeed that Father.
      God bless you ❤️🙏

  • @easmit1894
    @easmit1894 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I agree with your views but why has this woman and the archbishop not been interviewed and challenged on these awful statements being made by them?

    • @Dante-vf4sd
      @Dante-vf4sd ปีที่แล้ว

      Because satan is controlling the media

    • @elizabethwilkinson2635
      @elizabethwilkinson2635 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They have via email in my case and got the brush off.

  • @user-re2ey4ti4v
    @user-re2ey4ti4v ปีที่แล้ว +50

    "How do you defend a lion?"
    "You don't. You let it loose."
    "Preach the Gospel, in season and out."
    "My sheep hear My voice and they follow Me."
    "Having this seal, the LORD knows those that are His, and let those who name the Name of the LORD depart from evil."
    1 Cor 5

    • @davidparker7108
      @davidparker7108 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amen!!

    • @blondebomb6517
      @blondebomb6517 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree the bible thumpers are sheep to the magic man

    • @sergdamian1324
      @sergdamian1324 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@blondebomb6517 repent or perish... judgment day is coming for you.

  • @ryleighloughty3307
    @ryleighloughty3307 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    If Biblical truths make a person feel uncomfortable or unsafe, the problem is not the Bible but the person.

  • @johnmoore2247
    @johnmoore2247 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Do not trust Welby !!!

  • @BuzziRus
    @BuzziRus ปีที่แล้ว +10

    How did Welby ace theological college. He either surely knows the scripture about the mill stone around the neck and he's slandered one of his bishops maliciously, or he doesn't know the Bible himself and has misunderstood entirely!!

  • @Corolla97ww
    @Corolla97ww ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yes those protesters were distorting Christian teaching.

  • @helmutburger2597
    @helmutburger2597 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    If one is an enemy of the Word of God then you are an enemy of God.

  • @davematthews100
    @davematthews100 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for standing for the Word of God.

  • @anthonycostello3457
    @anthonycostello3457 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    This is a really good podcast. Good work, this is how we should do the work of discernment, education, and exposing evil within the church.

    • @CL-un9gg
      @CL-un9gg ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, Welby is indeed Evil. Personified.

  • @davidmorrison2739
    @davidmorrison2739 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    If I were a biblical vicar in England I think I might not feel safe in the Church of England now.

    • @PH-ih1pn
      @PH-ih1pn ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, nonsensical secular law has made Christianlity hate speech and illegal.

    • @mummagic7969
      @mummagic7969 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Here here!!

    • @puddingface5585
      @puddingface5585 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mummagic7969 Where? Where?!

    • @BiblicalMumblings
      @BiblicalMumblings ปีที่แล้ว +11

      if I were a UK biblical vicar I wouldn't want to be in the apostate CofE.

    • @davidmorrison2739
      @davidmorrison2739 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@puddingface5585 Hear hear- there!

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Matthew is an extremely clear thinker. The Ghanaian Bishop should sue Thatchall for those smear

  • @rosemarysummerfield8259
    @rosemarysummerfield8259 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Excellent discussion. Clear cogent defence of basic Christian doctrines is helpful.

    • @tomwisniewski8988
      @tomwisniewski8988 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dogma, not doctrine.

    • @daisybuttercup6801
      @daisybuttercup6801 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think marriage between same sex couples is laughable and abhorrent. But religions are cults, there are many of them , as Christopher Hitchens said they all can’t be right therefore they all must be wrong. No wonder TheGod Delusion by Richard Dawkins was a best seller.

    • @ninaballerina2807
      @ninaballerina2807 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tomwisniewski8988 Carry on gnashing your teeth for this is just what the Godless will do anyways the rest of their accursed eternity.

  • @emf49
    @emf49 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good to see so many devoted followers of Christ fighting for Truth in the UK. 🙏🏻

  • @thinkingoutloud7425
    @thinkingoutloud7425 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The conversion therapy ban will also stop opposition to the sexual transitioning of children via hormonal and surgical abuse.
    This is what was happening at the Tavistock clinic which has been closed for its reckless harming of children who needed psychiatric help with their emotional problems but were instead medicalised.

    • @thinkingoutloud7425
      @thinkingoutloud7425 ปีที่แล้ว

      The original conversion therapy ban was to stop the conversion of gay individuals away from homosexuality.
      The trans ideologues have turned it on its head to refer to children who are gender dysphoric or confused, pre pubescent, abused, gay, autistic to allow gender affirmation through drugs and surgery. A complete mis-use of the term.

    • @andybray9791
      @andybray9791 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      X out loud/core issues trust is not like those dreaded conversion camps

  • @sarahalexander1946
    @sarahalexander1946 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This is what happens when you want to please people and not GOD. 🙏

    • @vhawk1951kl
      @vhawk1951kl ปีที่แล้ว

      What is god?
      Something you invented of your own motion or some sort of infection you caught from another?

    • @RevvedUpBiker
      @RevvedUpBiker ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly! Do what a true follower of God would do. "Take up your cross." We're going to get persecution because they hate the Lord Jesus. Stand firm in the faith and never deny your calling. This is a time of true testing.

  • @davidgrosvenor1
    @davidgrosvenor1 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Welby is very weak!

  • @BiblicalMumblings
    @BiblicalMumblings ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The archbishop of Uganda said no such thing as 'drowning children', he simply quotes Matthew's Gospel, faithfully. By allowing this slanderous claim to be made, unchallenged, and even claiming that he did say this awful thing, Welby betrays someone he claims is a brother in Christ. Welby is openly guilty of breaking the 9th Commandment. Yes, Welby's comments are repulsive and dangerous.

  • @ethelwoodhouse
    @ethelwoodhouse ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank God for men like you who stand up for the scriptures They are getting fewer

  • @carolwilliams5337
    @carolwilliams5337 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why should conversion therapy be banned? People ASK for it.

  • @TheWordOfYah
    @TheWordOfYah ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How can a bible based group accept something taught against by God clearly in both old and New Testaments

  • @slumbermoon
    @slumbermoon ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Honestly, this was not the first time I heard Justin Welby’s biblical blunders. I heard one years ago and that sent me red flags immediately

    • @kathleenfederl5121
      @kathleenfederl5121 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      One year ago I first wrote to him and told my children he no longer put God first and trusted other people and himself before God!!!!

    • @HarryFlashmanVC
      @HarryFlashmanVC ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Welby is a superb example of the shockingly poor theological education of many of the Anglican clergy.

    • @johnchapman6446
      @johnchapman6446 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@HarryFlashmanVC It would appear he's simply never read the Gospels.

    • @jonnyfrench19
      @jonnyfrench19 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Lena. Did you notice that woman holding a sign reading, 'discrimination is not a Christian virtue'. With that muddled sort of thinking, it's no wonder the C of E is in a mess.

    • @delfine7163
      @delfine7163 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welby has damaged the Church of England enormously and should be upholding Christian values in a changing world.

  • @HearGodsWord
    @HearGodsWord ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Every evangelical should watch this video

    • @sstringer3790
      @sstringer3790 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes definitely!

    • @dansaber4427
      @dansaber4427 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you won't live in a fallen World unless you eat from the Tree of knowledge. Iniquity won't be found in you unless you eat the fruit of knowledge. You won't die in your iniquity unless you repent of the knowledge of Good and Evil. You're just not up to those standards. God wanted you to be holy righteous and perfect. By the measure of the knowledge of Good and Evil you're divided against yourself and half of everything you see is clouded and darkened that attributed to Satan. Jesus Will judge you by the measure you choose. that's Grace. Jesus Cuts Hypocrites in half and throws them into the fire that's Justice. Therefore repent and what is Twain can be made one new man, If you obey God's original and righteous command. The one you've heard from the beginning to trust God and not eat from the Tree of knowledge then you can eat from the Tree of Life. Jesus paid for the fall. Repent of the original sin. Wash yourself of the knowledge of Good and Evil with the renewing of your mind and the cleansing of your conscience. Then you can be reconciled with the father. Choose a new name for yourself you can be born again!

    • @sstringer3790
      @sstringer3790 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have repented & know the Lord Jesus as my Lord & Saviour. Referring to the video , I am grieved when I hear a twisting of the Word of God making it mean something it does not. It is good that there are still those who stand boldly for the truth of Scripture.

    • @HearGodsWord
      @HearGodsWord ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're a very confused boy, Dan. We already live in a fallen world and you are proof of it. Time for you to repent and believe in Jesus Christ.

    • @dansaber4427
      @dansaber4427 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sstringer3790 More like you were grafted into the original sin. Who do you know good and evil as? If I said your father was a liar from the beginning would you say that was a fair observation? Because you sound like the religious people from the story, like you're of the same spirit. I find no fault with the LGBT whatsoever. What say you?

  • @johnmacdonald8396
    @johnmacdonald8396 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Excellent by the Christian Institute. Very well and graciously explained by Matthew. Sadly, what we have here and repeated through the Church is weak leaders who are more fearful of man, and woman, rather than being fearful of God.

    • @kevinralph5305
      @kevinralph5305 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      👍🏻

    • @GraemetheGuiriLordHaHa
      @GraemetheGuiriLordHaHa ปีที่แล้ว

      There is another explanation more of accord with Cantuar's flagrant connivance in Mr Tatchell's bright, shiny lie about what the Archbishop of Uganda said. Astounding they credit Cantuar for asking Jayne Ozanne for 'evidence' when he'd just made clear by conniving with Peter Tatchell's lie he couldn't care less about 'evidence'. "Show me the evidence" was for show. th-cam.com/video/vUBvuLWWFn0/w-d-xo.html

    • @gleannmhuire
      @gleannmhuire ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fear….. mmmmm

    • @BDub2024
      @BDub2024 ปีที่แล้ว

      he thinks he can be buddies with the world, but such is the nastiness and twisted nature of these protesters, that they'll always take advantage of the weak. Welby naively doesn't get it.

    • @GraemetheGuiriLordHaHa
      @GraemetheGuiriLordHaHa ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BDub2024 - What I see with Welby is collusion. He is not serving God, he's serving Satan.

  • @anthonycostello3457
    @anthonycostello3457 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    It's funny how people, like Welby here, simply believe everything they hear. I would have pushed back on the fellow who claimed he felt safer in Zambia than in England. I mean, really? Then why doesn't he live in Zambia? I realize it is a tough situation psychologically when you have a mob around you (even a reasonably peaceful one), but still, I hope Welbly wouldn't just believe that statement without some skepticism.

    • @juliepeters3716
      @juliepeters3716 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Absolutely, I would have been asking for clarification on what way he felt unsafe and if he could give an instance of when he felt threatened.

    • @littleboots9800
      @littleboots9800 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He probably felt safer in Zambia because he was rather more discreet about his homosexuality than he is here. I guarantee he was not publicising his proclivities in Zambia.

    • @anthonycostello3457
      @anthonycostello3457 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@littleboots9800 Indeed.

    • @rogerh1744
      @rogerh1744 ปีที่แล้ว

      Archbishop Welby did NOT JUST BELIEVE THEM. To the absolute contrary he sought clear evidence BEFORE he could then examine it, accept it or reject it. He was being highly respectful without consenting to anything that was being asserted by the people around him, until he could ascertain the true facts of the matter.
      Showing respect (politeness) does not mean consent.

    • @J_a_s_o_n
      @J_a_s_o_n ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@anthonycostello3457 why do you think England is better than Zambia? People go for business else Where and go back home.

  • @garryellison
    @garryellison ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How safe will these people be when they face the judgement of christ ???

  • @marklister5519
    @marklister5519 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Is Justin Welby ill informed ? Why does he not defend Christianity? Is he the right man for the job?

    • @HearGodsWord
      @HearGodsWord ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Ill-informed, no. Wilfully ignorant, perhaps. More interested in what/how society feels that what the Bible teaches, absolutely. He's damaged the C of E more than any other archbishop I can think of in the last few hundred years.

    • @marklister5519
      @marklister5519 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@HearGodsWord. Agreed.

    • @hezkyden
      @hezkyden ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@HearGodsWord I dunno, the Druid, Williams, was pretty bad and George Carey, the alleged evangelical, was a disappointment.

    • @HearGodsWord
      @HearGodsWord ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Mr Anglichan searching for a good one is a bit like looking for rocking-horse droppings.

    • @rhyfelwrDuw
      @rhyfelwrDuw ปีที่แล้ว +9

      "Is he the right man for the job?" This should be a calling not a career choice, unfortunately many godless and non Christian men and women of the cloth see it as a free house, no bills to pay and a nice stipend rather than the calling of born again believers which it should be.
      They need to read the 19th century bishop JC Rule's book 'Holiness'.

  • @rjp1007
    @rjp1007 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Excellent, Matthew Roberts! Very clear and gracious..

  • @imarcher6629
    @imarcher6629 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Appealing to 'equality' or 'non-discrimination' to justify changing the definition of marriage is like appealing for equality between apples and bananas. Marriage and other sorts of partnership are two different things. Non-discrimination between them is irrelevant.

    • @stephenhayesuk
      @stephenhayesuk ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nothing could be more discriminatory that the parable of the sheep and the goats (Matthew 25:31-46). Jesus literally says that He is going to judge the whole world and welcome some into Heaven and cast the others into Hell. What could be more discriminatory or judgmental?

    • @lollypop2413
      @lollypop2413 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stephenhayesuk we have all been born into sin...we naturally have the sin virus at birth and were all condemed until God provided a ransom to pay for our sins. ..by allowing His Son to take on the payment for everyone. ..Legally sins price is death. The choice to ACCEPT what has been done by Christ AND to accept Him as the true and only God AND repent our sins ...is the method to accept Christs legal ransom. If you refuse the ransom, you remain as you are , being born into sin and condemned to paying the price yourself. ...which is eternal hell. So everyone is equally born into sin and.everyones ransom has been paid BUT God gives us all a choice to accept or reject His offer of redemption. We are all treated the same..no descrimination. I hope that clears your thoughts.

    • @markie6477
      @markie6477 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lollypop2413 I am afraid that is theologically wrong, the Bible does not teach that.
      Sin isn't a virus to begin with, it's the symptom of a fallen heart, which we all have, being Adams descendants.
      Jesus Christ did not pay for everyone's sins, only those who are called by Him and are written in the book of life.
      If He paid for everyone's sins then nobody would go to hell, but He only took upon Himself the sins of the elect.
      You are correct in one sense that we need to accept Gods provision in Christ, but the scriptures teach that we won't, nobody would...
      As Jesus said, No man...No man can come unto Me except the Father draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.
      The emphasis is in the word can...we cannot come to God without Him first drawing us.
      John 5:39-44 KJV
      And ye WILL NOT come to me, that ye might have life.
      That is not to say that we don't have a responsibility to do so...God calls us all to repent and turn to Him
      We do not have free will, as Adam and Eve did, our will is bent towards sin and in enmity towards God.

    • @markie6477
      @markie6477 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stephenhayesuk Everyone DESERVES to go to Hell, it isn't judgemental but perfectly right that we are all condemned because we are all sinners and have all broken Gods laws.
      It is great mercy that God saves any at all, none of us deserve to be saved, but, as it is written, God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son
      that whosoever believes in Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.
      If we refuse His gracious offer, then we get what we deserve, eternal condemnation.
      Do we not realize the great and unfathomable price that Jesus Christ paid, for us who were His enemies?
      What would you think, if you knew of a condemned criminal, and you sent your only child to take his place and let him go free,
      and your child took the punishment, which is death...but the criminal refused that offer, but your son still took the punishment...
      Would you not be extremely angry at that criminal...an understatement i know...but God is angry with the wicked every day, and this is why.
      God is a righteous Judge to send unforgiven sinners to hell forever, and welcome into heaven all those that have put their God given faith in
      Jesus Christ, and know their sins forgiven and peace with God.
      JOHN 3:7 " You must be born again.”!

    • @J_a_s_o_n
      @J_a_s_o_n ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@markie6477 his analogy is SIN being a virus. Don't play dumb
      Every person has a will .... We choose to love God thro ugh confession and acknowledge our Lord and Saviour.
      Holy Spirit then guides us.
      We can't overcome without the Holy Spirit!

  • @Shofar2024
    @Shofar2024 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Justin Welby needs to step down. He is NOT worthy to lead the body of Anglican worshippers. Why did he not correct the comment regarding the NOT drowning of babies but the protection of children by Jesus own words. Truly shocking.

  • @cachinnation448
    @cachinnation448 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Very helpful discussion gentlemen. THANKS

  • @anthonyarcher4744
    @anthonyarcher4744 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Peter Tatchell says some child adult sexual relationships are not " unwanted, abusive or harmful " ......you can see the direction of travel here.

    • @violetweston3401
      @violetweston3401 ปีที่แล้ว

      tatchell, try saying that to your maker before you are sent to hell for violating children

    • @kaywootton2775
      @kaywootton2775 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am thankful that God will be judging this man, Peter Tatchell. Not only is he trying to destroy Christian marriages, he is destroying lives of gay people by his extreme views. He is leading many away from living lives they were content with into more perversions of the LQBTQ... agenda, transgender adults committing suicide because it was not the answer to their mental issues, more depression, the toxic environments they live in as he feeds them the lies that religion is the main problem for them, that they can be and do anything they want. ..I have seen it happen in my own family and it breaks my heart.

    • @johnschuh8616
      @johnschuh8616 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Child abuse is one of the few remaining taboos. Now that is being torn down.

    • @margaretbanks8969
      @margaretbanks8969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Peter tatchell wants to go back to pre Victorian values. The age of consent in much of the Victorian era was 13 who is supporting Victorian values now peter?

  • @rawntech_7820
    @rawntech_7820 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    thats my dad on the left furthest away from the camera (mattew roberts). well proud.

  • @robhunt-watts8908
    @robhunt-watts8908 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am a Christian, apart from family, our village church is the centre of our lives.
    I have no time for the hierarchy of the Church of England. It seems that the upper ranks of our faith have lost touch with the rest of us.

    • @HarryFlashmanVC
      @HarryFlashmanVC ปีที่แล้ว

      My family have left the CofE and reverted to Catholicism. Welby is a heretic and I cannot see the CofE surviving thos

    • @johnschuh8616
      @johnschuh8616 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course. They are part of an elite that feels the same detachment.

  • @CrazyRev
    @CrazyRev ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I do not like this term "racism" as it is popularly used! We are all, regardless of our ethnic background, members of the same, single human race! A more accurate word would, surely, be "ethnicism" - but perhaps that doesn't have the same emotional connotation as "racism"!

    • @runtsmeadow6797
      @runtsmeadow6797 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ethnicism doesn't sound sufficiently evil, does it? And we can't have that.

    • @ninaballerina2807
      @ninaballerina2807 ปีที่แล้ว

      Racism, essentially is Division. The weeds of Division, Discord & Disparity was first planted by mankind's very first father, the very first man, who had with the very first words he spoke to his very first and then the only fellowman, forever alienated her from the God-ordained & therefore the perfect sampling of His perfect Oneness He had granted to them by ascribing to them the One Dominion (Gen 1:26 & 28), the One Name (Gen 5:3) & the One Body (Gen 2:21-22) - all of which he was to share with her. - refer Gen 2:23. That, ever since these vile weeds of Division, Discord & Disparity have continued to manifest themselves in all sorts of increasingly oppressive discrimination of tyrannical proportions was but inevitable. Racism is just one among them. Just as God has Himself testified against these evil dominions of fallen man & Satan combined (eg. Matt 12:25-26), the culmination of which will be witnessed by the entire world just as it is prophesied in Rev 13 - are irrevocably doomed to perish with themselves! Praise God!

  • @ExpositTheWord
    @ExpositTheWord ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thanks for all you do

  • @lenwilkinson672
    @lenwilkinson672 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Church of England lost its way years ago.The religion of the bible is being changed to suit the narrative of the Bishops who pander to the crowd.

  • @tinekedijk7385
    @tinekedijk7385 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Their argument is with God , not man .

  • @kingshousetube
    @kingshousetube ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To equate being gay with being black or whatever skin colour means we do not know what we are dealing with.

  • @sylviaduffin4812
    @sylviaduffin4812 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If someone does not like our values they just change the definition of words.

  • @inekeaknoeff7761
    @inekeaknoeff7761 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    very carefully discussed! Keep telling the truth according the Bible!!

  • @mythsandlegends100
    @mythsandlegends100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm finding it hard to comprehend how these campaigners they can be so dishonest in misrepresenting the issues they raise here, what meaningless striving.

  • @PennySmart
    @PennySmart ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The man claiming he doesn't feel safe in the Church of England is plain ridiculous.

  • @margaretellis2269
    @margaretellis2269 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Thanks you for showing us this discussion. it is so concerning that statements made by churchmen who are seeking to teach the inerrant word of God are being so misrepresented.

    • @AnnieGrace777
      @AnnieGrace777 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jesus and the Epistles warned us about this.

    • @Chris_Sheridan
      @Chris_Sheridan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AnnieGrace777 .. Epistles?

    • @paullittle5200
      @paullittle5200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@AnnieGrace777 and the apostle Paul,Acts20:29,30...and the apostle Paul preached see Acts 20:20,21.

    • @ninaballerina2807
      @ninaballerina2807 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This has been the typical modus operandi of the Godless since time immemorial. However, praise God, for just as He has infallibly promised He shall build His Church to its completion in spite of these cowards and not even the gates of hell and hades will prevail over it.

    • @Chris_Sheridan
      @Chris_Sheridan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ninaballerina2807 .. that isn't even the issue in question - the real issue for those wanting to be followers of Jesus is the same issue that presented itself in the first century - the identity of the Christ (Messiah) and those who truly followed his teaching.
      After Jesus ascended to heaven, Christian congregations were under Christ's direction by means of holy spirit - there was a governing body of appointed men (the faithful slave) and each congregation had appointment elders that would care and shepherd the 'flock' and direct the all important preaching work that Jesus assigned his disciples. - Matthew 28:19 & 20
      Matthew 24:14 has to be accomplished before the end comes. - Mark 13:10
      Who really is the 'faithful and discreet slave' in modern times and what is its function. How can it be identified. - Matthew 24:45 ?
      Only the fruitage of that 'slave' identifies Jesus' true followers, which includes being in harmony with Hebrews 10:25 and 1 Corinthians 1:10

  • @robertseavor4304
    @robertseavor4304 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Welby is hammering the final nails in the Church's coffin.

  • @ronmey7500
    @ronmey7500 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Conversion therapy is exactly what all of society needs.

  • @JoeyC777
    @JoeyC777 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Super helpful discussion. Thanks!

  • @stuartmenziesfarrant
    @stuartmenziesfarrant ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Homosexuality is a choice, despite what is popular today, race is immutable.

    • @Jill-jb1jg
      @Jill-jb1jg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it’s important to distinguish between gay sex and being gay. The first is a choice, the second is not for some people.

    • @johnchapman6446
      @johnchapman6446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jill-jb1jg It's not, but what they do about is a choice. A straight man with a tendency towards the sin of lust has a choice to struggle to not leer at women, watch pornography and sleep with prostitutes. Similarly a person prone to gambling has a choice to struggle not to gamble. A person prone to anger and violence has a choice to struggle to remain calm and peaceful. A person with homosexual tendencies has the choice to struggle against their passions and remain celibate. And all can be blessed by God through their struggle for the sake of their love of Him, both in this life, but most critically in the next, which is for eternity. And all may, and most likely will, slip up at times and fall back into sin, but if this is followed by genuine repentance and seeking Gods mercy again God is forgiving. Praise Him for His divine mercy.

    • @Jill-jb1jg
      @Jill-jb1jg ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnchapman6446 That’s why I said gay sex is a choice.

  • @aislinnkeilah7361
    @aislinnkeilah7361 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Woke infection in the Church of England. Frightening.

  • @NuYiDao
    @NuYiDao ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Truth and Duty go together as do Rights & Disingenuity. The endless pushing of rights that followed the success of the civil rights movement has been busy unpicking the fabric of Western civilisation. Some sort of stand and standing point is long overdue.

  • @sheilabrown4700
    @sheilabrown4700 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    No surprise to find this very helpful discussion (with relevant background) via Coalition for Marriage. I have followed C4M for years, grateful for the way we are kept informed by them (and by Christian Institute) of how to recognise and stand firmly against smooth talkers who mislead far too many people.

  • @beemer2869
    @beemer2869 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for a very interesting and gracious interview. God bless.

  • @bernardplume4401
    @bernardplume4401 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Surely Justin Welby read the full text of what the Ugandan Archbishop actually said BEFORE issuing a public rebuke ?

    • @HearGodsWord
      @HearGodsWord ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It sounds like the Ugandan archbishop needs to rebuke Welby.

    • @JGSongsYT
      @JGSongsYT ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@HearGodsWord he just has

    • @HearGodsWord
      @HearGodsWord ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JGSongsYT do you have a link?

    • @rays1108
      @rays1108 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does anyone have a link to what these archbishops said?

  • @iainclark5964
    @iainclark5964 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can we consider identity politics as a form of idolatry.

  • @Berniegraph
    @Berniegraph ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A stark reminder to me just why, although I remain a believer in Jesus Christ, I stopped attending church some years ago.

    • @paullittle5200
      @paullittle5200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Revelation 18:4,5 but look towards those who use their Bible Hebrews 10:24,25

    • @paullittle5200
      @paullittle5200 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isaiah 43:10

    • @Mutasis_Mutandis
      @Mutasis_Mutandis ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have too, unfortunately, but am looking to rejoin. Scripture states we are not to forsake the assembly.

  • @gavinmillar7519
    @gavinmillar7519 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As always, a thoughtful appraisal. Good video

  • @monicabrewster2476
    @monicabrewster2476 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The damage has been done. If the public watch this video they will take on board what is said as the truth, and who will be there to refute? it to put them right?

  • @forthfarean
    @forthfarean ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Again , children cannot be homosexuals . How old are these ‘children’?

  • @patsyadams1833
    @patsyadams1833 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Time for Welby to go.

    • @012131boxer
      @012131boxer ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Totally agree along with women being banned from the clergy.

    • @patsyadams1833
      @patsyadams1833 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@012131boxer Very sad to see the Church tying itself in knots over issues that were never issues to the people.

    • @loverofgod6176
      @loverofgod6176 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@012131boxer Women who can't accept man is the head of a woman, have no place in the Church.

  • @PL-lt3wz
    @PL-lt3wz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any deviation by a church from the teachings of God as stated in the Bible makes that same institution no longer a church.

  • @peterchristie1096
    @peterchristie1096 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have to say that the only LGBTQ people I ever come into contact with are Anglican clergy. The C of E is certainly a gay old church. Gays are attracted to the Anglican church, particularly the high variety, like moths to a candle flame. I'm not homophobic just stating a fact.

    • @littleboots9800
      @littleboots9800 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its the same with the RCC. They love the smells and bells and the theatre of it all.

    • @J_a_s_o_n
      @J_a_s_o_n ปีที่แล้ว

      Satan has made an abode and controls CoE. Any true believer should RUN and not look back

  • @forthfarean
    @forthfarean ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The normal term for “same sex” couples is ‘ Homosexual’. It means the same ,but it is more succinct.

  • @melaneeholland1385
    @melaneeholland1385 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The Bible doesn't say black skin is sinful homosexuality is .

    • @user-re2ey4ti4v
      @user-re2ey4ti4v ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "God commands all men, everywhere, to repent."
      "All men."
      "Everywhere."
      Gen 3:1
      "Even so, come, Lord Jesus!"🌹

  • @Apriluser
    @Apriluser ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great talking points. Also, we must pray for our leaders as they are under tremendous spiritual assault.

  • @pamdawson8598
    @pamdawson8598 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thankyou . Classic CI Biblical analysis and presentation.

  • @dougkeen69
    @dougkeen69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great presentation as always from CI.

  • @rosemarygaven7750
    @rosemarygaven7750 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This is dreadful - I am so sickened by the level of lies that are coming out here. In all my very long life I have never misunderstood the millstone remark of Jesus. It is the people who harm children would be better off under the sea. Now this distorted lie is now being thrown out into the world. The Archbishop should be rebuking them not the Godly African Archbishops!

    • @whitleyman
      @whitleyman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Having read the representation of Jesus's words that is shown on the screen, I can see that much confusion has been caused by the use of gender-inclusive "them". Does it relate to the MAN to whom Jesus refers as causing the little ones to stumble, or to the LITTLE ONES themselves? (The Greek is unambiguous by the way) Had the original "him" been there, there could have been no confusion. Someone has been caused to misunderstand these words, whether it is the Archbishop of Uganda (we didn't hear what he actually said) or whether it is (wilfully) the LGBT lobbyists. As for the gender-inclusive mistranslators, in my opinion, for leading people astray, "It would be better if a millstone...." etc.

    • @juliepeters3716
      @juliepeters3716 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, even before the clarification came up I already was thinking about that scripture and what a terrible inversion of it the accusation was.

  • @user-nx6ji9tk8i
    @user-nx6ji9tk8i ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Does anyone teach ‘ Comprehension’ in schoos anymore? Has Orwell been struck off the reading lists?
    Some much for critical thinking, ability to debate, and fostering tolerance and understanding.

  • @irenefishleigh2519
    @irenefishleigh2519 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank you both for this. It is time for us to get off our seats and go out into the streets to preach the true gospel of the Kingdom of God. We can no longer rely on our shepherds. Let the sheep tell the sheep that
    we are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God. We all need a Saviour to set us free from our fallen, disobedient, rebellious, wilful, sinful human nature which all descendents of Adam and Eve have inherited.
    JESUS is that Saviour. He died once and for all sinners and the time has come for all sinners everywhere to repent of their sins and turn back to God who is faithful and just to forgive if we confess our sins.
    Homosexuality is a sin like adultery is a sin, abortion/murder is a sin, stealing is a sin, lying is a sin, covetousness is a sin and dishonouring God is a sin.
    How can we honour God and glorify Him when we don't even know and teach His Truth???? It appears that the Head of the Church of England has no idea what the Word of God teaches.
    God forgive him for he is a great sinner. He needs to turn back to God and seek Him where He can be found.
    In the Scriptures. Amen
    The Archbishop and his supporters must repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand.
    Likewise the LGBTQ+ supporters in the church.
    How can you be a Christian and deny Christ???
    The Scriptures are all about HIM.
    He is the Head of the Church not the Archbishop of Canterbury.
    The church is the Body and Bride of Christ.
    The Body and Bride are called to be faithful to the Marriage Covenant and the Bridegroom.
    I pray with all my heart that they all repent and turn back to God. For God is not willing that any should perish in the fire of His wrath. Amen
    The Christian Institute is a wonderful ministry. Thank you and God bless you for all you do in Jesus's Name. Amen
    I also recommend watching Rev Brett Murphy's channel and the debate at the Oxford Union with Rev Calvin Robinson. The New Culture Forum too plus
    the Ministry called Answers in Genesis especially talks by Dr. Terry Mortensen.
    They, like you, are all standing up for the truth and authority of the Word of God. The Bible.
    Not the bishops. Not the Synod. Not the Archbishop of Canterbury.
    Not the opinion of men and women but the truth of the infallible Word of God.
    God is the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the sea and all things in it and under it. God is Sovereign. God is Holy.
    All Scripture is inspired by God. It is HIS book. It is HIS story about sin and redemption.
    Please read the book of Genesis dear Archbishop.
    It is God who created mankind in His likeness and in His image. Male and Female He created them. Amen
    And it is Jesus Christ His Son who came down from heaven to suffer and die on the Cross in order to defeat the works of the devil. The devil bewitched, enticed, seduced and deceived Eve in the Garden of Eden. He is bewitching an awful lot of priests and people today.
    If anyone believes, defends and fights for the lies and deception of Satan, that old serpent, the devil then he is a servant of the evil one not the Holy One.
    Deliver us from the evil one dear heavenly Father. Deliver us all from the lies and deception of the evil one dear heavenly Father. In Jesus's Name I pray. Amen
    Keep up the good work brothers and sisters in Christ.
    Stand up for the truth.
    Speak the truth in love, gentleness but in the power of the Holy Spirit. Defend the faith and expose the works of darkness.
    Righteousness cannot mix with unrighteousness nor can darkness overcome the light. Jesus is the light of mankind and we are called to be salt and light.
    Shine the light of God's truth wherever you go.
    Preach the Gospel. The good news. We know the bad news. Satan is the god of this world and we cannot serve two masters. Either Satan is our master or the Lord Jesus Christ is.
    The Lord Jesus Christ declares: "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness for they shall be filled. Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God. Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceeding glad for great is your reward in heaven. For so they persecuted the prophets who were before you."
    "He who has My commandments and keeps them it is He who loves me . And He who loves Me will be loved by My Father."
    Do not fear men who can only kill your body. Rather fear the One who can kill both your body and your soul.
    May God be with us all. May He give us all more knowledge, wisdom, courage and boldness as we fight the good fight of faith and worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. In Jesus's Name I pray. Amen

    • @glidymoney3710
      @glidymoney3710 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for that, it came at the right time for me, a lapsed bible reader. Now I will get my Bible out and start relearning. Thank you again.Irene Fishleigh.

  • @paulwusteman9963
    @paulwusteman9963 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With people like Welby, surely many in the C of E must be thinking that it is less bother to give up religion and just read the Guardian as a sign of their virtue.

  • @alancadwallender
    @alancadwallender ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Excellent video. I have just placed an order for the Kindle version of the book. These LGBT fanatics are so blatantly irrational that I just can't understand how anybody falls for their nonsense.

    • @Blissblizzard
      @Blissblizzard ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's just gnostic inversion again.

    • @AnnieGrace777
      @AnnieGrace777 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deception.
      Spiritual discernment needed always.
      Jesus warned us in Mathew, John, the revelation of Jesus Christ.
      satan always uses 99% truth.....always that ?

    • @Blissblizzard
      @Blissblizzard ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm just shadow banned for writing the word gnostic again.
      Over target ..... Now!
      😂😂😂😂

    • @johncraske
      @johncraske ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A classic comment! Frankly, Christians are the very last group who should criticise others for 'falling for nonsense!

    • @Blissblizzard
      @Blissblizzard ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@johncraske Nobody asked you for your papers, pass thru keep moving, it's like you were never here.

  • @malcolmlyndsell5009
    @malcolmlyndsell5009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been warning for 14 years that children are not safe . We now have schools allowing dubious acts in front of children . Trans dressed in skimpy clothes. The day is dawning when children themselves will be fair game . Parents need to demonstrate. Complain . Get angry

  • @paulbrady6988
    @paulbrady6988 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If the CofE moves toward extending the concept of marriage to facilitate same sex marriage then it would be a matter of time before polygamy, and any other ideas people present with as their preference, will be demanding parity of esteem.

    • @carrie4558
      @carrie4558 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely agree with you 👍

    • @J_a_s_o_n
      @J_a_s_o_n ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a satanic church that has been that way for decades

  • @Rayblondie
    @Rayblondie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trevor is so clear with his judgment of what is happening. We really need people like him.

  • @terrydonegan1622
    @terrydonegan1622 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So wonderful to hear. God bless this gentleman and those listening

  • @GodsFavoriteBassPlyr
    @GodsFavoriteBassPlyr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always love the Race vs. Sexual Preference argument. Race is Not a Behavior.

  • @Molloms
    @Molloms หลายเดือนก่อน

    My husband & I were asked many times to pray. for those suffering from depression, demonic oppression & many other problems -&it was a joy to see their deliverance after simple, authoritative but loving prayer - but it was definitely NOT conversion therapy!

  • @marianel7630
    @marianel7630 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The more I hear BP Welby speak , it's clear , He needs to be Born again. May God have Mercy on him and his followers. 😢 What a sad situation with this man being the head of God's Church. Bishop Welby , Turn to Christ , Repent and be Saved !!!

  • @Cotswoldblonde
    @Cotswoldblonde ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wonderful discussion. Praise the Lord 🙏🏻

  • @seamusweber8298
    @seamusweber8298 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It is perfectly reasonable to discriminate. In fact it is essential to discriminate. The word discriminate has been deliberately hijacked. One should discriminate in favour of something and one should discriminate against something else. Discriminating in favour of marriage between one man and one woman is moral, ethical and essential. The Archbishop would be far better advised not to engage with those who bear false witness.

    • @vhawk1951kl
      @vhawk1951kl ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said, to discriminate means to recognise difference for example hot and cold live and neutral poisonous and not poisonous; the capacity to discriminate is essential and to classify it as sinful is like classifying different regions of the toungue as sinful, but the religion modernism- like all religions, is obsessed with sin and it keeps extending the calendar of the terms it invents for sinful among which is to be foundthe laughable frankenstein neologism" homophobic" which actually means afraid of the_ same, but like old prof. frankenstein what devout modernist do is take one bit of a word and graft it onto another word or part thereof to give absurd frankenstein neologisms such as homophobic which appears to be some sort of cognate or synonym of sinful for the purposes of followers of that queer religion which seems to regard sewerites and fake women as sacred cows, and then of course there is the buclear cognate of sinful misogyny, and seemingly some members of various organisations are castigated for the sins of racism sexism homophobia and no doubt uncle Tom Cobly and all as if there was some thing surprising about young beings of the active sex drawn from the lower classes being hostile to sewerites and obvious aliens, while I would be mildly astonished if they were not; I do not expect policemen or firemen to be icons of modernist virtue and if devout modernists regard them as sinners, quite regard them as sinners, quite frankly my dear I don't give a damn.Sewerism is a vile and filthy anti-natural perversion which needs to be eradicated as far as possible, but the old common law penalty of hanging might be a tiny bit extreme, but could one not just pretend to hang them pour encourager les autres and just post them off to some desert island where they can do no harm?
      *Why*does the religion regard they exponents of every kind of filthy anti-natural perversion as sacred cows?what's wrong with lice, cockroaches and dungbeetles?

  • @anthonycostello3457
    @anthonycostello3457 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    One of the things that the Christian (or any defender of truth) in circumstances like this must do, is press the interlocutor on everything that is said. You can't let mobs jump around from one topic to another until you get them to lay out explicitly what they mean. This is especially important when you are on camera. I'm not saying it is easy to do, but the Head of the Church of England should know how to do that.

    • @audreyblack8629
      @audreyblack8629 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every Chrustian should be secure in their faith to challenge things as well.

  • @lesleyelalami2562
    @lesleyelalami2562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'Discrimination is not a Christian value'..... but discernment is!!

  • @norituk9824
    @norituk9824 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've always understood marriage to have a mystical aspect, to be a 'union of opposites' - hot/cold, high/low, dry/wet and so on. So marriage between male and female makes sense, but not same sex marriage.

    • @johnschuh8616
      @johnschuh8616 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jordan Peterson made some amusing comments about marriage being between persons who find each other repelling. The audience laughed because they recognized their own relationship in this. It is a common devise in romantic comedy is have the male and female leads to conflict before coming together. Marriage is always a matter of reconciling differences. None are more profound than between men and women. Hence the foolishness of easy divorce laws.

    • @J_a_s_o_n
      @J_a_s_o_n ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@johnschuh8616 marriage is meant to humble us.
      That's why a pastor etc must be married. Once one can lay his life for another he can take care of flock