Ranking the Best COH2 Axis Infantry | 2022 Tier List Redux

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  • Greyshot117 and Greyshot151 are going through COH2 one last time to rank all of the infantry used by the different factions. Today, it's how good certain frontline units for the OKW and Osteer faction.
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  • @SomeTomfoolery
    @SomeTomfoolery ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I'm impressed by people who are able to edit videos with them interacting with themselves for just a couple minutes, this is beyond impressive. The timing, the different facial hair, it all comes together to really make it feel like there are two different people in this video. If I didn't know better, you could've fooled me into thinking you had an identical twin brother. 5 star editing.

    • @GreyshotProductions
      @GreyshotProductions  ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Thank you, but it's even more challenging since I have multiple personalities and we have no idea what the other guy recorded. Definitely not my Twin brother.

    • @WR1317
      @WR1317 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Me: why these 2 guys look the same as each other?
      My brain: hey thats racist
      Thank you for clarifying.

  • @TovKafur
    @TovKafur ปีที่แล้ว +23

    JLI at C? Unit that spots, can wipe with mine + ambush combo, and fully counters Snipers and ISes - C? Like, really?
    This unit is like half the reason why Overwatch is the most picked doctrine overall.

  • @jabloko992
    @jabloko992 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "You wouldn't pick a doctrine, just because 'oh, it has Assault Grens in it."
    The moment you say 'actually...'

  • @jamesjamozo6964
    @jamesjamozo6964 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think you should have put sight range into consideration, the main reasons squads like JLIs are that useful. Extra sight range is also part of the description with the better-info mod btw.

  • @h3adsh0t64
    @h3adsh0t64 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I am looking forward for updated tier lists. Thanks for keeping the community entertained and educated :)

  • @andreacappelletti5442
    @andreacappelletti5442 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the luftwaffeofficer you cen get such value by his ability to recon and call a smoke fo, and suppress in an emergecy situation, it quikly vet up, and the extra range is good, not best, but very cool.

  • @UnnamedFear
    @UnnamedFear ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jager light squad has the ability to snipe models with health lower than 75%. Their the g43 also has a bonus against units in cover, so Instead of 0.5 accuracy penalty they have 0.9.

  • @civilprotection3114
    @civilprotection3114 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love Grenadiers, I find them way better than even Obersoldaten since they have a Anti tank ability, 7 population to 10 population, way cheaper manpower upkeep and reinforce with the all out war ability and max rank makes them very durable for a 4 model squad.

    • @TovKafur
      @TovKafur ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You mix their purposes. Obers are elite anti-personel, Grens are line infantry. There is no realistic way Grens can beat Obers, ever. But Obers are expensive and are helpless against even LV.

  • @user-ts5pi3qh8d
    @user-ts5pi3qh8d ปีที่แล้ว +6

    these tierlist makes beginners like us a clarity
    it helped me a lot, thank you

    • @azerovendetta7774
      @azerovendetta7774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll give you some advice if you're new: Ignore this list.

    • @user-ts5pi3qh8d
      @user-ts5pi3qh8d ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@azerovendetta7774 its better to know something, rather than knowing nothing for us

    • @azerovendetta7774
      @azerovendetta7774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-ts5pi3qh8d Of course, thanks to this video you now know what you don't have to pay attention to.

    • @user-ts5pi3qh8d
      @user-ts5pi3qh8d ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@azerovendetta7774 what are you so mad about? chill

    • @awun2117
      @awun2117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@user-ts5pi3qh8d its a bad tier list

  • @yor-cd7rt
    @yor-cd7rt ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I suggest to put Fallschirmjäger and SP on the B tier and JLI on the A tier. Fallschirmjäger could really suffer from Mid-late game Allied firepower (3v3 4v4) they usually won't be able to stand for a long time compared to the price you invested on them so it's not a good trade.
    For SP, they are good however easy to be countered, Re recovery squad, Assault section, or calvary riflemen which basically you spend 300 MP on a pion might can get vet 5.
    JLI, a solid infantry unit for early and late game, they have sniper ability and a cheaper price to call in, and can be very useful when mixed up with Volks squad to absorb and deal enough damage on the squad models' heath for JLI to sniper the enemy down.

  • @duyquang3589
    @duyquang3589 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also you forgot that storm trooper have tactical assault which will delete enemies if you use it from ambush. it kind of too specialist.

    • @GreyshotProductions
      @GreyshotProductions  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your right but also makes them easier to kill. Great for ambushes though.

  • @SuperCrazf
    @SuperCrazf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember when Stormtroopers had StG 44s (I think they had scopes). They were S tier when they had that

  • @Ruzaraneh
    @Ruzaraneh ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Strumoffizer should be S-tier (at least A-tier) this 2 cp 280 mp obersoldaten squad with sure retreat and 30% received accuracy to infantry (taking 2 infantry unit out of equation are no joke) and become capable combat unit in vet 5 with obers stats (and ludicrously fast vet with shared veterancy) you practicaly will win any infantry fight..
    whenever strumoffizer lead, victory follow (unless you meet vehicle and rocket artillery lmao)

  • @spinosaurusiii7027
    @spinosaurusiii7027 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    No.
    The Jäger Command Squad does not snipe models like Jäger Light Infantry do
    Only JLI and Paths can do that
    JCS have three of the normal G43s that Grens/Pgrens/Füsis get, which unlike the one JLI G43,
    that is made for long range static fighting, are great on the move and perform well at all ranges.
    That on the move firepower is probably also why 151 feels like JCS are good at picking off the last retreating man

    • @gerfand
      @gerfand ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah, its the same as any other G-43 unit with exception of the Lights and Sniper, that both use as Sniper weapons

    • @jonnypelletier5013
      @jonnypelletier5013 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Jaeger command squad gets 3 grenadier G-43s which are different from the G-43s that Panzergrenadiers get which are both different from the G-43s that fusiliers get

    • @GreyshotProductions
      @GreyshotProductions  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Apologies for getting that off.

    • @gerfand
      @gerfand ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonnypelletier5013 The Grens, Panzer Grens and Fusilliers G-43s are the same in how they act, even if they do different damages.

  • @andreacappelletti5442
    @andreacappelletti5442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The one in c tier all have cool jakets soo they got a win in style.

  • @billybob-zk9nm
    @billybob-zk9nm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always like keeping the volksgrenadiers late game for capturing/salvaging spare equipment and sacrificial capping cause of their cheap reinforcement cost.

  • @user-xs5xo2tl8b
    @user-xs5xo2tl8b ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Assault grenies are more powerful
    They are designed to bring a headache to the opposite player in early mid game with close flank action
    They are B tier and pioneers are C, they can overcome only soviet engineers

  • @marceldevynck7347
    @marceldevynck7347 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i say if you stack stormtruppen you have an unstopable force of flanking better then sturms and panzergren

  • @bdlamini9002
    @bdlamini9002 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good list
    I would kinda argue that the obers are the best infantry unit in the game. A big reason is, even though they cannot do anything to armor, at that point in the game you should be packing some kind of AT. With that in mind nothing will stop you infantry wise....... and what's worse is they will vet quickly if you use them smart with the LMG upgrade. I know a bunch of players and the only advice they give for playing against obers is "Dont let them vet up". I stand to be corrected.

    • @bro3217
      @bro3217 ปีที่แล้ว

      Useless in the late game unless you have at least 2 with mg34s and vet. Allied blob spam with bars or Brens dooky all over obers

  • @batabit3295
    @batabit3295 ปีที่แล้ว

    I disgreed with 3 unite 1st fallshirmjager is glaces unite only good in ambush put them as B tier the 2nd sturmoffizer for me S tier as for the last JLI you forget can pickup 2 weapons at that time they became deadly for any infantry put them as A tier

  • @srmuertecita8093
    @srmuertecita8093 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prefer Panzergrenadiers. They have a really good grenade and can fight from a decent range (They have better range with the G43 upgrade)

    • @-brd-moonchaser9190
      @-brd-moonchaser9190 ปีที่แล้ว

      i maybe wrong but if i remember correctly they are the only unit to get 3 G43s than 2

    • @srmuertecita8093
      @srmuertecita8093 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@-brd-moonchaser9190 Yes It is. There is a video about it. Now what I am not so sure about it is if they lose short range firepower. That I do not know

  • @FlightSergeantRose
    @FlightSergeantRose หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think its time for an updated tier video.

  • @alek7998
    @alek7998 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regarding Pgrens, you mentioned that they dont hold up against barmen or brensections. As a true believer of Pgren supremacy, I am here to tell, holy shit do a pair of Pgrens wipe EVERYTHING near them. Like you could put them against 3 infantry sections with full brens and bolster, and if they just sprint to them, then that Brit is either gonna have to retreat or his units cease to exist

  • @005zdenda
    @005zdenda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jeager lights are great for me S tier not C tier, what a shame!

  • @mrcs1037
    @mrcs1037 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    JLI-s have a great combined arms potentuall, they are the best againts brittish and not that great but still usable againts soviets
    If you have 2 of them they can be very good killing 4man MG squads and four man infantey squads.
    I ususally use them to support my Volk assault from the back. Also it's view range is very nice, getting some fuel from the wrecks can help you. I don't have Scavenge doctrine, but my fav one is probably Overwatch, I just love trolling with Goliaths :D
    I know your comparison is 3v3 and 4v4 and mainly I am a 2v2 player but I played some 3v3's and 4v4's with them and they are still potent there, but i'm sticking with 2v2 mainly since I can play with a friend and I really don't want to depend on random players

  • @MIApor
    @MIApor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10:02 who said assault grens can't build a bunker?
    UC don't have to care about assault grens?? Those grens can shred the UC with only small-arms fire, especially with the squad lead.
    They are specialised, but they are far better against the common infantry than the standard grenadiers. These guys can shred brits, Americans and soviets at close range, and they can go close range even on open maps since they have the sprint ability. The only counter to them are: shocks, assault infantry section, ranger/paratooper with thompson and tanks, which are elite units.

    • @GreyshotProductions
      @GreyshotProductions  ปีที่แล้ว

      Mod was not allowing them to build, that's why I made the comment. I used it to deploy all the units the game had in each faction.

  • @Jlteon-ff9cg
    @Jlteon-ff9cg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ya silly goose even if a T-70 shows up my FG 42'd fallshirm make cheese of them.~

  • @Captainkebbles1392
    @Captainkebbles1392 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    😢"no one picks a commander because or assault grens"
    Oh..

  • @Evangeline.F
    @Evangeline.F ปีที่แล้ว

    Pioniers are underrated, imo. Yes, they are not Sturmpios. They cannot put sweeper away. They aren't going to win close up against dedicated close quarters infantry and they have no ranged dps beyond close, but apart from that, they are insane. Best mines of any faction, bunkers, sandbags and wire (that doesn't take forever to put down), flamethrower and can beat any pionier unit except Sturms and Royal Engies up close and they only cost 200 MP. Sturmpios have always that issue that lategame, they cost too much to be as good as a pure repair unit, while Pioniers are cheap enough, like the rest of them. Also, early game, what is huge and must not be overlooked, Pios have improved vision range. The only other units that can be made right out the gate with improved vision is Kubel (ages like milk), Pathfinders (commander specific) and snipers (need a building and are situational). Ost starts with a Pio and can scout ahead before running into some Maxim or Vickers.
    In general, I feel vision is underrated here.

  • @GhostxXx88
    @GhostxXx88 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great vid, but for someone that is not learning every unit from name is confusing, for next please try to include icon they have in game.

    • @TheMock5000
      @TheMock5000 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is their icons?

    • @GreyshotProductions
      @GreyshotProductions  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Will add time codes when I can.

    • @GhostxXx88
      @GhostxXx88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheMock5000 i mean icons from tac map

  • @CBUCK1994
    @CBUCK1994 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jaegers with upgraded rifles with a flak halftrack wipes the shit out of american infantry

  • @mikedeng1449
    @mikedeng1449 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The elite troops doctrine can turn stormtroopers into fallschirmjagers and other skills of that doctrine are also far more useful than the fallshirmjager one. With smoke, self-heal at vet 1 and instant deployment, they are actually better than pgren especially in early-mid game. They are available in 3 doctrines and yeah you don't care about their performance in 1v1 matches. Just don't put them with volks and pios, since JCS and osttruppen are in Tier A. XD

  • @tonyantonio0139
    @tonyantonio0139 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Assault Grens are SSS+ tier easily

  • @thetrueinferno7993
    @thetrueinferno7993 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Assgrens need a real buff imo, they cause way to much bleed(double with upgrade), dont get a reduction in cost at tier 4 iirc and while they are meant to replace your mainline - as you said they have no snares so they are real useless. They really do need a change, a panzerfaust would do wonders, and changing the upgrade so it adds 20-25% armor and changes one unit into a squad lead with panzergren stg would be nice, not to mention tier 4 should also reduce their reinforce cost to the same as grens

  • @ericyuan9718
    @ericyuan9718 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOL I can see how Grens are S tier in a 4v4 cuz gren blobs are decent, but in 1v1 and 2v2 u can't afford to blob or else u lose map control or become too predictable and get hard countered. I'd say C tier 1v1 and B tier for 2v2

  • @feluto7172
    @feluto7172 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    osttruppen s tier

  • @HPTheRambler
    @HPTheRambler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No sniper, worst tier list!

  • @SamSchlimpert
    @SamSchlimpert 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Literally so mid

  • @imperatornoinga3646
    @imperatornoinga3646 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    JLI placement 🫵🤣

    • @TovKafur
      @TovKafur ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, like, wtf? They are prime counter for British, Snipers, have great sight... dunno how they coul be lower than A.

    • @imperatornoinga3646
      @imperatornoinga3646 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TovKafur they also Mog Riflemen. have chaff volk and Sturm tangle in medium range while a JLI and an Ober pick off all their i fantry from long range

    • @samtajik9903
      @samtajik9903 ปีที่แล้ว

      are these 2 even good players?

    • @imperatornoinga3646
      @imperatornoinga3646 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@samtajik9903 erm, not really