Not Every Egomaniac Has Narcissistic Personality Disorder
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- Professionally diagnosing narcissistic personality disorder is difficult for psychologists, partially because anyone who might have it just thinks they’re great!
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"Leave diagnosis to the professionals" should be the intro theme for this channel.
Tell that to all the people "diagnosing" everyone they disagree with of 'gaslighting' them. That term has taken on a life of its own since 2016. Thanks, unsurprisingly, to the media.
I am surprised you managed to make that whole video without mentioning shame. Most narcissists have a deep rooted sense of shame that they cover up with all those grandiose thoughts about themselves. It is the hardest place to reach during talk therapy because it is so painful to admit and covered so well, but at the root of it all there is a problem with self-esteem and shame.
Something something something my ex something something.
AGHAHAHAHHAHA
Thank you
people always say "oh youre just exaggerating" whenever i say my mom is a narcissist, shes literally diagnosed and people dont believe me
+razioli o That's firstly because the term is actually overused and secondly because people don't know how many people with NPD there sadly really are.
I’ve been diagnosed with narcissist traits awhile back. Nobody will ever believe you. Because “Narcissists aren’t self aware.” And “Narcissist would never admit their narcissistic or be vulnerable.” The spoiler alert is they can be vulnerable if the trait isn’t something they see as inherently negative or they’ve come to accept it.
I'm an Eggomaniac.
Those frozen waffles are so bad, but so good!
ALAPINO I see what you did there 😆
Hank was a day late posting this, but I appreciate your dedication in posting a video specifically on my mother
In school they teach that usually is not narcissistic people, but those around them the ones who seek therapy more often.
The number of people that diagnose their exes with NPD is hilarious and sad
Projection is a hell of a drug
It’s also makes is really hard for those who actually dated diagnosed narcissists (that’s hell) because we’re treated just like bitter exes who hold grudges.
Yeah, no armchair diagnoses please
I don't know if its used inflationary to skip the whole reflecting on yourself part, but If you actually where cheated on, lied to, gaslighted, financially ruined - bad stuff happened basically - you need some explaination to wrap your head around what the hell happened there.
Martin Rathner very, very true.
This is a good start, but NPD is rooted in shame and an inability maintain a cohesive sense of self without using others as objects or props to do so. Speaking as a clinical psychologist, NPD is hard to treat not so much because a person "thinks they are great," but because they are terrified of feeling vulnerability and their repressed shame. Their rigidity and lack of self-awareness are their way of surviving in the world. The challenge for the psychotherapist is to help the client feel safe enough to take the risk of being more emotionally genuine without threatening their defenses too much or too soon. This can take a long time.
Yes. The hallmark of narcissism, is *low* self-esteem. That's why they create false realities and get "triggered" listening to criticism(or even things which can be interpreted as such)
I've heard that therapy for NPD and a few other personality disorders isn't very effective, and the patient tends to learn how to manipulate therapists. What's your opinion on that?
Of course, personality disorders differ. People with NPD aren't manipulative by definition. They can use people in a utilitarian way, without empathy, but their main reaction to the therapist is to deny any facts or suggestions that make them uncomfortable, or to see if they can intimidate you (Trump). As well, they are seldom in treatment because they want to work on themselves, so if the presenting problem, like relationship issues or depression, somehow gets resolved, they will leave. Often the therapist will feel used, like other people in the client's life, in the sense that no real relationship or appreciation ever developed while the client was being helped, but that's not what the job's about. We're there to help, not to be appreciated. So to the question of effectiveness: You can't know until you try, and to deny treatment to people with NPD because the odds aren't good isn't fair or ethical, as I see it.
Thanks for your reply, that's really interesting! I agree that withholding treatment for other issues does sound pretty unethical. When I read that, I think it was also talking about other empathy lacking cluster B personality disorders, so it could have been generalized. Manipulation probably gets tied in a lot with NPD, since that's pretty likely to get other people to stop and take a closer look at someone.
I do wonder if there truly is anything that can even be done about the empathy part, since that's what causes them to damage other people. It could be that it's akin to a developmental issue, where if the connection isn't made by a certain point, it's just not there. But ultimately that's just speculation, I'm just a laymen on the subjects of psychology and neurology.
but if the NPD patient suddenly leaves treatment halfway thru, doesn't it mean that the treatment was ineffective? because they still are not comfortable with allowing a foreign entity, in this case a psychiatrist, to declare whether they are effectively "cured" or not...?
and to follow up to that, would it become the psychiatrists' responsibility to follow up on their NPD patient, given that the patient can choose to keep away because of their NPD?
While I liked this video's attention to the difference between narcissism and NPD, I do wish you had addressed the difference between grandiose and vulnerable narcissism. Perhaps the reason why those studies seemed to have conflicting results is that those with overly permissive parents tend to suffer from grandiose narcissism, and those with overly authoritative parents tend to suffer from vulnerable narcissism. I feel like putting those two studies side by side without this context casts unnecessary doubt on both of them since they can both be valid even with conflicting results. Just my two cents.
sparkyblu.. i had a grandiose narc ex who was overspoiled and overpraised by his parents and also had a vulnerable narc ex who was abused as a kid.. but l also know other grandiose narcs who weren't spoiled but were abused and neglected as kids.. your'e right about both bad parenting styles causing narcissism but probably not with what exact kind of narcissist they'd turn out to be.. but yeah maybe more grandiose narcs come from overly indulgent parents but not all. Anyway l agree with most of what you said:)
I'll admit that the statements I made were general (perhaps an unavoidable problem with social sciences), and I'm in no way a qualified psychologist, so my statements should not be taken as fact without sufficient research. I was more concerned that someone watching this video may be confused by the contradictory studies and come to the conclusion that neither of them is useful. Studies in the social sciences are already met with a certain degree of skepticism (when compared to those in the natural sciences, anyway), so I believe that providing context for studies whose results contradict each other. Either way, I thank you for your thoughtful reply in the wasteland that often is the TH-cam comments section!
Whoever made the scale go up to 11 was a genius, no narcissist can resist that one xD
I used to be a narcissist,
but now I'm perfect! :D
Oh my god XDDD
Lmaooooo
Lol
Said like a true narc lol
Lol
Some people are just full of confidence.
Some are so full of themselves, they'll drive the world to ruin to stroke their own ego.
Great overview of narcissism and NPD! It's a little more nuanced than this but as you know only so much can be said in a video... Many people with NPD don't think very highly of themselves which is why they overcompensate with the narcissism. This is a tricky diagnosis that's bound to always be controversial. Thankfully more studies are being done and we will learn more eventually.
So... does that mean NPD could come after depression? Or is that unlikely? Just curious.
As they said in the video more research is needed. Sometimes therapists mistake NPD as depression because someone with NPD is "depressed" that they're not being recognized for how great they are. It seems likely that NPD usually results from a combination of genetics and traumatic experiences (Or traumatic brain injuries). But more research really needs to be done.
All right, thanks for the extra info.
I was just about to make a point about covert narcissism, which didn't get brought up in this video. With covert NPD, the person is actually pretty likely to have very low self esteem, but they'll still have other features, like entitlement and being manipulative. They're almost more dangerous than classic NPD, because they don't look like what you think a narcissist WOULD look like.
Hey I completely agree and thanks for posting a comment like this, I feel as though lot of people would go undiagnosed if they were never aware of this and didn't seek out treatment.
Phew! I only have 4/5 of the necessary traits. I'm still perfect.
Psychology is designed to assign the "us" good and "them" amoral.
So don't believe in DSM, because it has financial conflict of interest. The APA gain around millions per year.
Thank you for this! I hate seeing people use mental health disorders as an insult.
It's not only used as an insult. A ton of Armchair diagnoses of ex-partners as having NPD is the ultimate irresistible get out of jail card for free. For if the ex has NPD, then any mistakes the other partner may have made were either utterly irrelevant or at most immaterial to the bad end to the relationship. It also of course impedes or outright prevents personal growth for the accusing party from the ashes of the former relationship.
Tl;Dr - when someone utters the words "my narc" and they're not referring to a law enforcement officer acting in an official capacity, stick your fingers or wads of chewing gum in your ears.
Isn't it the case that a disorder can also be diagnosed based on the distress it causes other people around the patient, even if it doesn't distress the patient themselves?
That runs into the problem of bias
@@the24thcolossusjustchillin39 Well, sure, but ALL mental illness diagnoses are biased in some way or another.
No. because it has to fit that criteria for all diagnoses’ for example, narcissistic personality disorder we might see as “funny” or not as harmful for lack of a better term. So, If someone was a bit anxious and it caused you distress that I was a bit anxious at times, even if for me I thought it was perfectly natural and I felt a tiny bit of anxiety helped push me forward in life, would you say that it should be diagnosed as GAD, panic disorder or something because it caused YOU some distress, even if it didn’t affect my daily life and wasn’t causing me a problem but it was a perceived problem to YOU? No, that’d be absurd. I’m just using these hypotheticals as an example of course but you get the idea :p. But you’re going into the realm of diagnosing somebody with a mental illness for selfish reasons because you’re inconvenienced. I understand what you’re saying, but it would always need to have a negative impact on the persons life who would be diagnosed. If there’s no perceived negative impact to them, then it isn’t an issue. In which case, You’re verging on personality trait preferences if you’re taking issue with something which isn’t a diagnosable condition due to the lack of negative affect on that person. In that case, you just wouldn’t be friends with that person. Or you’d have to “get over it” if it was a family member. If I don’t like a trait in one of my friends or it’s causing me ‘distress’ that’s my problem not theirs if it’s not affecting them.
@@JoeSmith-cn7ur I mean, I wasn't talking about "it causes them distress because they don't like seeing you have these traits". For instance, someone with antisocial personality disorder may not feel personally distressed by their behavior, and in fact may *enjoy* the benefits of their behavior, but if they're manipulating other people, that's still enough to diagnose them, based on their behavior and the distress they cause to others.
If it's causing others distress, it probably affects relationships. I'm sure psychiatrists have no problem calling that good enough reason to diagnose.
I'm pretty confident that my narcissism is ego driven.
My mom has NPD. She's a covert narcissist, and very emotionally abusive. She's not the typical egotysical narcissist either, she fools everyone.
Also mine.
She's fully covert, and appears as a poor old lady that suffers for others (when she victimizes herself and use it to manipulate others).
TOXIC PERSON. Most hidden ones, looks like innocent butterflies....but they are COLD & EVIL.
@@steamedbuns6197how do you know this person's mom isn't diagnosed
"It's associated with more happiness and less anxiety."
Well, considering we just said that their are less likely to respond well to negative feedback (pushing more caring people to be mindful of them when it must happen) and more likely to be less empathic (thus not worrying about other lives they might damage/ruin) I would guess it is totally understandable that they are more happy (for themselves, which is their main focus) and less anxious (since only worrying about one person is way easier than for a dozen, dozen being your most important connections).
Talking about narcissism, not the disorder. But still, I'm absolutely not nuanced.^^ Gotta make the connection clear.
It occurs to me that Gaston from Beauty and the Beast suffered NPD for sure!
They don't suffer their NPD, they enjoy it.
The sufferers are around them.
3:50 a word for word detailed description of our president... Huh, guess I don't have to be a professional to diagnose someone after all
A few people with inflated egos have touched my life, and a good indicator for me is that they usually start sentences with a stammered "I - I - I "!
Hey guys!! I love the channel and how you talk about disorders and psychological quirks in a way that nothing gets too serious nor too silly. It's a good balance. I'd like to suggest, for one of the "serious" episodes, talking about ASD, especially in women. Even people in the spectrum - like me, you might have guessed for the icon - have difficulty on dealing with it, as it feels less of a disorder and more like "the world is really very weird". And women are particularly more vulnerable and tend to be diagnosed as adults - like me. Anyway, I love the show, and I love working listening to it. keep on the good job!!
Being either egosyntonic and egodystonic to the perceived problem is crucial in order to properly evaluate said person's mental health.
I think you downplayed the negative affects of their delusional thinking on their lives and affects to others they are relating to or ignoring.
Isn't it also a disorder, when it negatively impacts others?
One of the major parts of Narcissism (NPD specifically) is that they have deep feeling of shame underneath and spend their lives putting up a facade, a false self. It's not a true sense of confidence, it's fragile and needs constant maintenance. An Egomaniac has a stronger certainty that they are awesome and while they might get irritated at a lack of recognition they don't have that inner terror of inadequacy a Narcissist does.
Example: An Egomaniac and Narcissist both lose a competition. The Egomaniac will just think the judges must be really dumb and might think "how dare they" but it doesn't injure their basic sense of self. It's the Narcissist that feels humiliated and might never forget or stop talking about that day. They may have the same complaints about the judges, word for word, but only one truly believes they are amazing while other is trying to keep up an illusion that they know, deep down, is a lie.
Also there is a difference between a more overt Narcissist and a covert one. A covert Narcissist would absolutely deny being a Narcissist because it doesn't fly with the illusion that they are a noble martyr. Mother Gothel in Tangled is a good example of how they operate.
5:44 "LEAVE DIAGNOSIS TO THE PROFESSIONALS"
Isn't that for, like, the whole channel?
Pretty sure I live with a narcissistic and emotionally manipulative mother. Checks all the boxes but refuses to find help even though it's breaking apart the family. All because she thinks that everyone else is the problem and that she's perfect and requires special treatment...
+Lin Wong Check out daughtersofnarcissisticmothers.org. It's this site that I found in a way coincidentally and in another way not at all that made me realise what's wrong with my mother. And be sure to take the examples on the site not too literally but in a more abstract way. It really is a fantastic site apart from the ads and the propagation of one "self-healing technique". Extremely informative.
Congratulations SciShow you teach us more in one video than a whole semester at college
My opinion's so good that I'm probably better at diagnosis than those lame "professionals", which is why I can say with confidence that I definitely have NPD, and it's great!
It's frustrating how demonised NPD is because you can be an egomaniac abuser and still not have NPD. I am p sure a friend of mine has NPD as a result of not only being ab*sed as a child, but their parents refusing to beleive it and instead just spoiling them rotten with hopes that that would make them shut up about it. So parenting styles that were both cold and too hot (and i guess self-serving). They're getting more unstable and narcisstic each year so I am a bit worried. However, this friend currently has a bipolar diagnosis and they're seeing a therapist, so I am hoping the best for them.
It's not a disorder if I really am this awesome.
This skirts around the more damaging aspects of narcissism such as the vicious spite that is unleashed when NPDs don't receive enough worship from people around them. They take that sort of thing very seriously and make it very personal indeed. For them, hurting you is justice.
Sounds like Light from Death Note
I think both overspoiling/overpraising and neglect/abuse affect brain development and cause NPD, just different types.
This was a great video. Can you do more on personality disorders, like OCPD, and borderline?
That person that disliked is narcissistic
people ..four so-fare
Thanks for covering this, but I think more emphasis should be put on how someone with NPD can negatively impact the lives around them. The major points of NPD are lack of empathy and exploitative behavior towards others not because they're so full of themselves, but because using people makes them forget the shame they feel towards themselves. When questioned or tested, a true narcissist becomes defensive and angry. A person with NPD hates feeling vulnerable and whether they realize it or not will prey on others to create a better picture of themselves in their mind. They don't see other people as people, they're tools to meet an end goal.
H.Rex.. exactly
Absolutely a great description.
In my experience, which is completly anecdotal and has no bearing on science, it's all of the above. There are different types of narcissim and most of them come from a dysfunctional home. In my opinion on this matter, a narcissist is both nature and nurture. Some people are more predisposed to narcissistic personality traits than others, add to that abusive or overly endulgent parents - you've got a recepie for chaos.
My mother grew up in an abusive home (grandma is an alcoholic and a narcissist), so she and all of her siblings are narcissistic to varying degrees. The manipulation, lies, gaslighting, emotional neglect and psychological warfare I've had to endure is enough to make anyone mad. Add to this my AuDHD brother that was coddled and given everything and bailed out of any trouble. He is now in his mid 40s and alone, with no family, no friends and barely holding a job. Yet he believes he's the center of the universe and we should all worship him. He's entitled to everything he wants. And since mom constantly sweeps all his mistakes under a rug, he has no consequenses for his actions and thus thinks he can do what he wants, when he wants - regardless of the damage it causes to others.
I have a lot of experience with narcissism, not just through my family, but also with friends. Not once has their toxic narcissism been a problem in such a way that I'd consider it a disorder.
One of my favorite Caravaggio paintings on the cover!!
Nice hoody
what blofish?
The channel doesn’t seem to be for psychoanalytic knowledge but it would of been cool to heard a break down of the history of narcissism. It’s interesting because it began with Freud and was observed throughout the evolution of psychoanalysis. Kohut even developed a new theory around the disorder. Mitchell’s paper on it gives a unique synthesis of what kohut and Kernberg believed. Kernberg is important because the DSM’s whole personality disorder section was highly influenced by his work.
There’s a type of NPD which is harder to diagnose, where the patient believes that he or she is the victim in every situation, and that no one in the world can feel worse than them.
My dad has NPD and I can only describe my childhood as an abusive one. My dad never hit me or my brother, but the way he spoke to us like we were only there so that he could have someone to complain at, the way he would make everything our fault, and how he used to yell and stay angry literally for weeks over small things (like us not thanking him for making us dinner) has impacted me and my brother into our adult lives.
I’ve struggled with low self-esteem and I tend to feel guilty for things that I know I shouldn’t, like eating a piece of food that could have gone to someone else, or taking over 10 seconds to order food. I feel like someone is always upset with me, even if no one cares.
My brother demonstrates all the traits of a domestic abuser, and he has adopted a lot of the characteristics that my brother has.
My mom will tell us all to walk on eggshells to make my dad happy, because if he gets mad at one of us, she will get yelled at and blamed for it.
The most scary part, is that my dad thinks he is a great father and we should feel lucky to have a dad that treats us as “well” as he has.
I know he grew up in a poor family with an alcoholic father, but I don’t really use that as an excuse for his behavior.
NPD is a horrible disorder and the only reason I haven’t left home and cut ties with my dad forever is because I want to be there for my mom.
I'd be hesitant to say that some degree of narcissism is an indication of good self esteem. The narcissism that comes with self-esteem still comes with all the aggression and defensiveness that narcissism generally does come with. I'm really excited about the self-compassion movement and hope that that catches on as much as possible.
As long as that doesn't involve making excuses for yourself and abdicating personal responsibility for you actions, that sounds great... But I'm not sure "not being too hard on yourself and remembering you are human and sometimes make mistakes and are imperfect" is really a modern "movement". Besides, reasonable self-awareness and self-criticism can be incredibly critical to success. Balance to everything.
I don’t think empathy and some degree of narcissism are mutually exclusive. There’s definitely a point where it becomes overbearing, but a person can be self confident without being aggressive or domineering. The confidence to act quickly that comes from low levels of narcissism is helpful
Psych Ed narcissistic versus narcissistic antisocial.
bjr1822 agreed. Luckily self compassion is associated with an increased willingness to admit fault and an increase in motivation. I call it modern because even though similar views of the self have been proposed, self compassion has only been researched since about 2001
Graveyard Gaming It's strange how narcissism and empathy can overlap. Paul Bloom discusses it a lot in 'Against Empathy,' which distinguishes between empathy and compassion.
Ok, narcissism can make the person face no suffering, but what if his narcissism make the whole world suffer?
Then he should be impeached.
At least let us look at the damned birth certificate.
Narcissists can suffer, if only from the failure of others to acknowledge their awesomeness. In fact, the constant need for such validation from others is party of the definition of narcissism.
ResortDog Good point. I've never seen Trump's birth certificate. I have a theory he was hatched.... 🤔
Margarita Aguilar yes, his mum was a dragon. That’s why his face is permanently burnt and disfigured. She was just trying to kiss him!
NPD is often misdiagnosed as BPD and vice versa. Talk therapy is truly the most beneficial, especially when focused on DBT.
Informative ^^
I thought the difference between a narcissist and person with NPD is that people with NPD actually are the opposite, they have an extremely low self esteem and fragile ego deep down and need everyone around then to elevate them, they're hungry for praise as if they were narcissistic, they act as if they were narcissistic but the root of this appearance is not what it seems on the outside. Like, it's common for people with low self esteem at the core to overcompensate and be running up their noses as a coping mechanism for their complexions, to the point of genuine disdain and superiority complex, which is still just a facade over the fragile inferiority complex...
It's rather narcissistic to assume that narcissism only affects the narcissist.
I’ve been watching every episode of SciShow: Psych since it came out only to just realize I’m not subscribed.
“Diagnose” is an improper back-formation from “diagnosis,” but long usage and lack of a better term make objections to it seem pedantic. However, there is another error here which, owing to etymology, ought to be avoided by careful writers and speakers: You diagnose the illness, not the sufferer. If you diagnose a person, you will find him to be a person. If you diagnose a disease, you will find the nature of a disease.
Here endeth the lesson.
Someone has never met a narcissist. A real one is incapable of considering others feelings and how their actions harm others.
Exactly.
This channel is ''enabler''. It serves NPD's to the point of being unsubscribed.
I think Hank is enabler, or has some NPD traits....
anyway, disliked this channel..
Surprisingly, the same scale that proved successfull to evaluate the Compulsive Truth Telling Disorder did great for narcissism too!
Honestly I’ve noticed that true narcissists are more likely to be identified as such via their kids when they inevitably have to go through therapy for the horrific emotional abuse and neglect that comes with having a parent (or two) who is just literally incapable of loving them, especially unconditionally. Like, my oldest half-brother is definitely high on that scale and a total ass, but I wouldn’t consider it impairing enough to be a disorder, myself. My father on the other hand, absolutely. It’s hard to describe the difference, but the mentioned rigidity is definitely a part of it. Like, he can’t even conceive of the experiences of others, let alone admit anyone could possibly know more than him about anything. My bro, though, is a professional actor and can
Not to say I’m an expert ofc, this comes straight from my therapist(s) evaluation of things. And it’s not an official diagnosis either (which isn’t necessary anyway in their cases since they’ll never seek treatment). For sure, leave those to the experts, particularly in regards to other people. Voice concerns, don’t shrink
WHY DO YOU GUYS ALWAYS MAKW VIDEOS THAT ARE REVELANT IN MY LIFE AT THE MOMENT. GET OUT OF MY THOUGHTS 😂
I've been criticized for narcissistic behavior over the years, but all those who know me, know that I don't wanna talk down to them. I don't feel "better" than them. It's part of an organic feedback loop that I have with myself: I wanna be better than I've been before. But nearly everything in this video fits on me. I'm a competitive person, I wanna be good at stuff, so I train and get better and then I'm happy and maybe a bit braggy about "being good" at that thing. I had problems with empathy in the past, but I'm trying to get better (stopping to think "what will they think about this" before saying something is really helpful). I generally feel happy about my life. I even know what might have helped developing this personality trait: I have above average intelligence. I never did a "real" IQ-test, but I was estimated by short online tests at around 120. School was always really easy for me, even without having to study a lot. I had a really good final grade without doing much for it. And when you see that and you see other people grinding and grinding to get similar and even worse results, you feel kinda superior.
If you are manipulative in a bad way, then you are narcissistic, no matter the other ''details'' of your self-competitive goals, etc.
So my mother would get 9 out the 9 items on that list. Her person and her feelings were always first (she actually raised me thinking that my feelings, in comparison, were completely irrelevant, which it's something I'm still struggling with today). She had no qualms about manipulating us or sabotaging things to get what she wanted (she liked, in particular, making sure nobody got anything nice if she didn't get anything nice herself). If I ever asked for help with anything (even homework), she would let me know in detail what a horrible inconvenience I was bringing to her life, but if she had a problem, I was supposed to drop everything and fix it right away. She was supposed to be the most important person in my life (my self-proclaimed my best friend, not my mother) and if I ever mentioned anyone else, friends or even my father included, she would make sure to create a bad impression of them for me, they were not her after all. Should any of these points ever be brought up, no matter how non-confrontational or nicely, she would assume the role of the victim immediately, and everyone else would be a bully. She never did anything wrong. And don't let me get started on the guilt trips...
I've dealt with the consequences of growing up with my mother for many years, and I've gotten better, not 100% yet, but slowly getting there. If anyone out there is going through something similar, take it from this random person on the internet that who and what you are, what you like, what you think and feel, all those things have value. And you might not feel it sometimes, but you do have the right to exist. Good luck out there.
I beat Muscle Hank. My life, is complete.
Joke's on you, Muscle Hank doesn't post here anymore.
Try beating him on SciShow, I dare you.
Sebastian Elytron ahh crap. I got my shows mixed up! Muscle Hank beat me without even trying!
Anon S. He probably did it while squatting 10x his own body weight
No one beats muscle hank
I was diagnosed with Borderline about eight years ago and have a lot of interactions with others of the same diagnosis since. It isn't always the case, but with myself and many others, people BPD often have a parent with high levels of narcissism. It makes a bit of sense, if you think about it. BPD sprouts up when there is a lack of validation, and narcissists don't factor empathy into their responses.
Of course, BPD is much more complicated than just that, but it was an interesting observation. I'd love to see a long term study done on personality disorders through family lines...
I forget about my a in maths and I got screemed at home for not studying and I still didn't remember until my friend reminded me!!!
4:00 _"...belief that you can only be understood or appreciated by particularly special people."_
That sentence itself was said in such a special way, LoL.
But what is the difference between Egomania and Narcissism? I can't seem to find it anywhere on Google
@SciShow psych a decent presentation, given the limits of time afforded to this video. You left out one thing I may have added, in context and not as a stereotype. That is that NPD is almost more prevalent in males than females, occurring in 12% of men and 6% of women. Though again, context is everything, plus research into this phenomenon are barely starting, as is research on most personality disorders. Also, you misspoke, and on a very important point! There is in fact a 9 point checklist for NPD in the DSM-V, but a person must hit 5 or more to be classified as NPD. I would have included, with certainty, that NPD patients commonly display major depression, seen in 45-50% of patients. Additionally, NPD patients have a higher tendency for Bipolar Disorder, 5-11% of NPD patients being so afflicted, substance abuse is far more common among NPD.patients, approximately 24-64.2% NPS patients.
What about base it on how it effects other people in there life’s?
NPD is also diagnosed when other people suffer or are at danger because of the person with the disorder.
I’m pretty sure I have NPD, but I also have depression, and I think everyone is fantastic, so I’m not sure what’s going on...
No way you can't be with NPD and think others are of value.
The first characteristic is the lack of empathy looking at others as useful idiots.
So, nope.
Maybe your depression makes you feel egocentric and feel like shame (not the same shame that NPD's have).
Is the SciShow logo on the hoodie supposed to be not green?
The problem with the DSM criteria for NPD is that its threshold for diagnosis is if it causes problems to the narcissistic person. It doesn't consider if it causes distress or trauma to other people.
Just because you don't have NPD and are "just" a narcissist doesn't mean you can't emotionally abuse people close to you.
8/9 that’s just ridiculous I’m fine just the way I am I don’t have a problem
Do you mean, : 40, "stable" as in through time or in situations? Ha, ok, honestly, not sure what I'm asking. I might understand now.
3:40, so, distressing to others near them, thus, causing issues? Is depressive-depression the same? Is an egomaniac and an egotistic-egotistical person all the same, along with the examples in the video? Thank you.
I don't need to worry about this as I am incredibly humble, like, to an impressive degree.
I'll say it, one of the key elements of actually learning something is repetition... meaning, a lot of these videos go in one ear and out the other for the vast majority of people.
Narcissist do not love their inner self but the reflection that they have others around them. When you discover somebody close to you is a narcissist the best When you discover somebody close to you is a narcissist the best advice is to not address them on their narcissism . it will only backfire especially in court . but to learn how to get them to expose themselves. Its tricky and good to set boundaries with these people.
Typo I know 🤷
If you asked me how narcissistic I think I am on a scale of 1 to 10, idk if I could answer you. Like there are times where I feel freaking awesome about myself, and other times I beat myself down and I'm a massive pushover that let's people in my life beat me down. Idk how someone can know that about themselves.
I know my mother does probably have NPD. I spent a long time learning about it and dealing with it in talk therapy (and still do). The treatment I received was...indescribable. It was just terrible. I'm terrified of being like that some day, and terrified that I'm already like that without realizing it. I spend a lot of time questioning it. Probably more time than is healthy.
Yes, I do enjoy my physical form, and seeing it in the mirror kind of gets me off. On the other hand, I'm not really fond of who I am, and I certainly don't think that I'm better than most people.
Everyone has someone that pops into mind when they think of Narcissism.... Anyways, this video was tremendous, it'll have the best ratings.
Ve Gr friend you made me wipe the screen of my superior phone with my superior microfiber twice. I mean your thumbnail (I mean the graphic you chose to represent you). That was funny in a nice way.
I shall wait for you to say something that shows me to be a great human, because I wiped my screen. I mean all I seek is Mutually Assured ADmiration.
I'm glad my thumbnail had that effect. There's another one on youtube of a hair, meant to make people to wipe their screens, which is more effective. My picture is just a zoomed in question mark, "?", meant to allow mystery. Glad you got to laugh though. You have a very sweet picture. I should be so lucky to have a family to pride myself in and choose as my picture.
SAD!
i don't want to sound cold, but did something happen , his words aren't annunciatied as sharp as usual .?
Could you do an episode on Histrionic Personality Disorder?
They forgot to mention how narcissists wreak havoc on other people's lives - like their spouses, children or parents - and only when those people turn to professionals can then narcissists be diagnosed.
Y’all should do an episode on Borderline Personality Disorder
My dad always found a way to get what he wanted, he always made sure we had what we needed, he was never wrong and was happy to tell you so, my favorite line: what's better than a cotton(my maiden name)? 2 cottons...
Ya, he might have been a narcissist
This is full of b.s. on so many levels. Narcissists do not need a Phd in order to diagnose. If you are full of yourself and you lack empathy for others, you got it! We need a lot less of these kinds of people in this world.
People can inflict narcissistic abuse without being diagnosed with NPD. Everyone in the comments talking about how everyone says their ex has NPD needs to understand that the abuse someone does to you has signs and actions that can be described as narcissistic abuse i.e gaslighting, manipulation, overbearing jealousy, and verbal/emotional abuse. Don't discount other people's experiences just because you think they're projecting, especially if they've received mental health services that validated their experience as true.
How did you guys miss the Funeral meme at 1:57
They should totally do a video on entitlement and mental health issues (if any) that go with it. I see r/choosingbeggars and entitlement and stuff and it makes me want to understand just what is going through these people's heads and what could be done to help these people exhibiting such damaging behaviors and stop treating people terribly
Why does it have to cause impairment??
For example, I have ADHD. If I learn to manage it, does that me the physical brain differences are gone??
Narcissism does affect narcissist's lives. This is because others react negatively to narcissistic entitlement. A narcissist may have a hard time coming to the conclusion that stealing for example, is bad, because there is no good reason someone else should have something that they don't. Narcissists may try to find flaws in the competition's points of view or character more readily or become more aggressive after narcissistic insult, this anger may not necessarily result in a victory for them. And sometimes there was no intentional attack on the narcissist at all. For example, someone might score first place, and the narcissist came second place, but the narcissist in their mind can't fathom why they are not first place - leading to some infighting at the scorers.
So we don't know what causes it, how it manifests, its characteristics or how to diagnose it? Why does it exist then? Is it one of those things where because one person did something so stupid they had to put a sign up?
Yeah, some of us are just right!
could you guys do a video on aphantasia?
Timely.
I like the scale. It would be surprising to not have narcissism go up to 11.
Fun Fact: NPD also stands for a right-wing extremist party in Germany.
Paulinäh weird it's NYPD here.
The German one stands for Nationaldemocratic Party (of) Germany (Deutschlands)
I started laughing so hard when I heard Hank say NPD. 😂
It's best to leave diagnosis to the professionals
And it's the social-democrats in Canada.
I can't help but wonder if those scientists behind that study are fan of This Is Spinal Tap. "These go to eleven."
Could you make a video explaining 'echoism'? 😀
Someone who interrupts you might also have ADHD. Be careful what you say; you have a lot of power.
Uneven hoodie strings driving me nuts.
"You know, I won the popular vote by the biggest margin in history."
Damn, I’m gonna start linking this to people on Quora who keep talking about how everyone and their dog is a Narcissist
Being a narcissist and having NPD aren't the same the thing. The first term, which is more a description, precedes the latter which is a diagnosis. Just like I can conversationally say "oh, you're being paranoid" without effectively attempting to diagnose you with clinical paranoia, someone can be narcissistic without displaying the trait to a mental health extreme.
Because it`s much better to use language that downplays a mental health disorder...
Iseebichan But the mistake is believing narcissicism is a mental health disorder. Like he said, it's a spectrum we're all on. NPD is a mental health disorder. There's no need to sanctify all the words we used to describe mental health conditions. Or do you think that there's no value in being able to refer to the egomania that any individual can possess?
We already have a different word for the non-mental health disorder: arrogance. It`s really no different than someone claiming that they`re depressed because they have to wait so long for the next season of Stranger Things.
Iseebichan Arrogant and narcissistic don't mean the same thing. There's nuance in the implications. And are you really adversely affected when people use the word depressed in an obviously different way? Very few people genuinely think that is how depression works, it's just a word with multiple intensities. That's how words work. I appreciate your desire for people to have a greater depth of understanding and sensitivity about mental health, but a really don't think looking down on the usage of certain words is an effective way to achieve that. Nor is it necessary. If a person "misuses" a term like narcissism, all it really says about them is that they take a different approach to language than you do. That's not a crime. Even Hank admits a difference between narcissism and NPD.