About Bondrewd: his character is easy to misread because most of the information about him and his motives is given here and there, so it's easy to miss. In summary, due to the Zoaholic he lost his ability to feel bad about his actions, everything he says should bd taken at face value (he's not trying to ba manipulative or trick them at all, beyond the scope of what's needed for his SCIENCE), and he was trying to recreate what happened to Nanachi on himself so that he could safely explore the sixth layer and bring his findings back to the surface. More specifically: -Bondrewed is the sole reason people know anything about how the Abyss works; what the affects of the curse are, how it's triggered, the fact that it gets weaker further from the center of the shaft, how to make white whistles, etc. He was made a White Whistle because of his accomplishments in helping humanity more safely explore and understand this place. -The creation of a white whistle requires a WILLING human sacrifice. If the person doesn't want to become a white whistle to help the intended user, the process WILL NOT WORK. -Because of that, Bondrewed used the Zoaholic to copy himself, the sacrificed his original body to become his own white whistle. -One of the affects of the Zoaholic is that it destroys your humanity and literally MAKES you go insane. However, Bondrewed was SO dedicated to studying the abyss that when he lost his humanity, rather than becoming a mass murderer or serial rapist or something, he just became a scientist that didn't have the ability to understand what "too far" means. (Granted, that's actually scarier for someone who's genuinely nice to LITERALLY NOT UNDERSTAND why it's a bad thing to hurt someone, even if it's helping further science...) -To help make exploring the abyss even safer, Bondrewed wanted to find a way around the curse of the sixth layer (which will either kill you or turn you into a hollow like Mitty). -Since the curse only affects humans, he needed (what he viewed as) willing sacrifices who would let him study it, leading to the experiment that Mitty and Nanachi went through. -The way the kids were transported from the surface wasn't a shortcut or a hidden path, it was literally just an armored box that the Umbral Hands would carry while they descended on the normal path (protecting the box from the monsters themselves). -In that experiment, he had already discovered that "forcing the curse to one container" wouldn't work with animals or two people who didn't care about each other. His next attempt was on two good friends, in the hopes that the desire to protect a friend would override the desire to die while being hit with the curse (which is why Nanachi was "just in time"). -This gave him two ideas: one was the cartridges (which would use the same technology as the elevator to pump the curse away from him and into the person in the cartridge), and the other was to get the same "blessing" that Nanachi had (a body that, while not IMMUNE, was still RESISTANT to the curse). -He tried doing the same thing on himself (using two of "him", like when he made his white whistle), but unfortunately, while he could still be hit with the curse, the abyss no longer saw him as human enough for the same process to work. He couldn't become his own cartridge, nor would the abyss give him its blessing. -He started getting the volunteer kids to like him (using Nanachi as bait to lure them in) and became genuine friends with them. In his mind, he did genuinely care for them and appreciated what he saw as their willing sacrifices. Once the feeling was strong enough, he would turn them into cartridges. -While this worked for avoiding the curse, he still couldn't get the blessing. Friendship wasn't strong enough. It needed to be LOVE. -Prushka was the daughter of an Umbral Hand who was being transported in the box (like other children), but there was some sort of accident and the box was damaged, nearly killing her. -Bondrewed decided to become her father to develop a bond of familial love with her (after all, a child wouldn't develop romantic love for him (that would be weird!), and an adult would be too big for a cartridge, so he needed the strongest kind of love that exists between an adult and a child: parental love). -Bondrewed GENUINELY loved Prushka like a daughter. Like with the white whistles, it wouldn't work if he was faking it; it had to be mutual, not one-sided. It's just that, since Bondrewed lost his humanity, he doesn't feel bad about sacrificing the things he loves for the greater good (and doesnt understand why that's a bad thing when the "thing" in question is a person). -The other requirement was that she had to want to PROTECT him (like Mitty was protecting Nanachi), but he was having trouble getting her to feel that. That's why he let one of "him" get killed in front of her, then revealed himself right afterwards; to maximize the feelings of "I don't want papa to die; I must protect him". -Now that Prushka's emotional requirements had been met, he turned her into a cartridge. Then, when she was "used", the emotions between them were the same as the emotions between Nanachi and Mitty in the elevator, and the same transformation took place in Bonedrewed. The rumble of scientific triumph. -Because Prushka was also wanting to sacrifice herself for Riko, she became her white whistle as well. -In the end, Bondrewed was genuinely impressed that they found a way to beat him and was happy that they would get to go learn more about the abyss. In his mind, while it was disappointing that he lost the body he had just gotten, he had still finally reproduced the experimental results he was wanting to, and they had proven that their will was stronger than his, so he had no problem yielding to them. TL;DR Bondrewed is a fascinating and complex character. He's not evil, just a friendly scientist who's tragically and TERRIFYINGLY incapable of empathy.
The other part that people misinterpret is when Nanachi says that there are no more Umbra Hands that can fight them. There are, but they are more spread out and will now just run away instead of fighting head on. He can still turn kids into cartridges and get the blessing in different bodies, that was one other reason why he didn't feel as irritated by them destroying his #blessedup existence!
You're wrong, he is evil while still loving his sacrifices. Edit: Rather than evil, I think he just doesn't know what the limit is. Still, his experiment is really horrible.
What’s so cool about this arc is that Bondrewd, despite being the antagonist gets everyone gets something that they wanted, but at a terrible price. Even Bondrewd himself
based on other comments i read, it was explained in an interview that Bondrewd taught Prushka when they were dissecting animals and stuff. Either way, i dont think Bondrewd is that kind of person, as twisted as he is.
There are six white whistles. Lyza "The Sovereign of Annihilation" Ozen "The Unmoveable Sovereign" Bondrewd "The Soverign of Dawn" Srajo "The Sovereign of Mystery" Wakuna "The Sovereign of Guidance" Riko does not have a title yet.
@@orangesilver4568 Six known White Whistles, there might be more. Ozen said those were the ones she knew were in the Abyss at the time. Also, you didn't have the full titles: The Sovereign of Annihilation, Lyza the Annihilator. The Unmovable Sovereign, Ozen the Imovable. The Sovereign of Dawn, Bondrewd the Novel. The Sovereign of Mystery, Srajo the Mysterious. The Sovereign of Guidance, Wakuna the Chosen. and The Sovereign of Children, Riko. She was refered to as such two times, so I'd say it's safe to call her that. I would expect Bondrewd to have reported her to the surface by now, so she might even be officially considered a White Whistle at this point, at least I hope she is.
@@s3a.w They never explain how the titles came to be. The titles fit both their personalities and achievements perfectly, at least the ones we know, so I'd guess they probably just receive titles considering their image. Having "The Mysterious" and "The Chosen" as titles makes me think they just pick what feels right to describe the person.
Bondrewds voice actor also voiced kira from jojo, sephiroth in ffvii remake, narutos dad, and enel from one piece, which are some of my favorite characters.
Bondold, even if his body dies, he can shift his consciousness to a masked person unless he destroys Zoaholic. The real Bondold died after turning into a white whistle. The Bondold that exists now is just a bodyless consciousness.
In many other series, I would question how a bunch of children manage to overcome threats and obstacles that even full grown adults with decades of experience and badassery would struggle with. But then you remember Reg singlehandedly is the most valuable and effective tool ever seen by cave delvers. His strength and combat can rival that of even the most dangerous foes in The Abyss and his firepower is nigh second to none. Plus his grappling arms mean that the group can descend much more rapidly where it may take other delvers would take hours. And this is what makes Made in Abyss so great, the writing, the characters, the world building and how the story is told is written so tightly.
Not to mention Nanachi's ability to see the Force Field, which means not only detecting anything that can think, but also reading thoughts to some extent.
It's scary that some fans still thinks Bondrewd is not evil because he cares about the children that he is putting in hell for science. Just think about that. We literally saw the results of his twisted experiment and saw the pain the children suffered but all of that is negated because Bondrewd cares about the children to remember their name but not care enough to stop hurting them? Like, the heck. XD
I get where you coming from but no. We get how evil his deeds were, but his first sacrifice was himself and his relic destroys any empathy he have and only left his optimism hence his own white whistle, which both created White Whistle all the WW owed him including Riko's mum and the inhumane facility aiming to further humanity's evolution towards going down the abyss. If you think these White Whistles are good people I don't know what else to tell you, the show just literally tells you that WW is made from a willing sacrifice and worst kind of pain out of love
@@abidyo Understanding how he became evil doesn't make him non evil, neither does the fact that his experiments help cave raiders. Also Basic Simp never said that he thought that White Whistles are all good guys, so where is that even coming from? And yes, I've seen countless people say that Bondrewd is not evil. And there's a sizeable chunk of people who unironically romanticize him as "best dad" (there are also people like me who just meme that, but I digress)
@@ookami5329 I'm pretty sure I agreed with him and was only adding some points that these aren't normal people and most likely being WW and sociopathic/psychopathic goes hand in hand. Riko's mom literally left her own daughter and presumably tell her to come down. That's crazy person behavior
4:48 I wouldn't say Stranger Things have high stakes... it pretends to be, it's like GoT Season 8, logically speaking most should've been dead but they aren't and if they kill people it's the new or lesser-known characters. Basically saying they increased the stakes at the same time they thickened the plot armor as well.
God I love this series. The characters and story are top notch and with the worldbuilding and music make this feel so perfect. I knew nothing about it when I started watching it on Amazon and holy crap didn't expect it to go so dark. The movie is a great bridge to the second season and I have my HIDIVE subscription to watch it. Prushka's desire to go with Riko on her adventures made it possible for her to become a White Whistle (although I think you may need more than just the whistle, but that's fine). Hope to see you repost the reactions to the first season. I'd like to see them.
to explain this master piece of a series in a nutshell: a zombie a robot and a furry go down mother natures deepest and darkest whole to find the zombies mother and uncover the robots memories
Also Kira Yoshikage from Jojo's Part 4. Morikawa in general is pretty fucking goated. Pretty fucked that the anime cast him as Bondrewd in my opinion, given that other than Kira, he also played some of my favorite "father-characters" in anime (Minato from Naruto, Isaburo from Gintama, Paul from MT).
Not sure if I interpreted this right but when Nanachi had a flashback of Mitty when she was analyzing the whistle, and looking at the design of the whistle (it looked half white and half silver), I think half of it Prushka and the other half is Mitty. Might be wrong and it's just Nanachi comparing the relationship between Riko and Prushka with her relationship with Mitty.
The latter. Nanachi was thinking "For somebody to be able to care about another person even while having the Curse forced on them..." and then remembered it was the same with Mitty
Personally I disagree. Yes what Bondrewd did was way more fucked up, but in reality he's better than Tucker. Tucker experimented on his wife and daughter purely out of greed and desperation in order to keep his State Alchemist license. Bondrewd did all of these experiments for the betterment of humanity. Is it still fucked up? Yes. Did he do it out of malice or sadistic pleasure? No. He truly loved Prushka and every child he experimented on, and quite a few loved him too considering some of them were used up as Cartridges to slowly build up the Blessing as he ascended from the 6th Layer. He lacks all morals and ethics because he's no longer a human.
@@Chrisfragger1 Definitely no arguing magnitude. Bondrewd did a bunch of shit, but the point is that the intent still matters. If a person murders another person to rob them, vs a person who murdered 5 people to save someone else. Obviously this example is incredibly watered down compared to the two, but Bondrewd is not at the level of evil that Tucker is at
Legit curious now how fucked up Lyza has to be (if she is alive down there somehow, please do not spoil shit). Given that she also is a White Whistle, she has to have something wrong with her, although she seemed kinda chill in the flashbacks we got from Ozen. Super hyped for season 2.
It’s not a spoiler since even in the manga we know nothing of Lyza but I think that when the party reaches her she’ll turn into a monster and they’ll eventually understand that that’s Lyza
maybe because it's a movie or its pacing, for example the final shot when bondrewd got shot by riko, at the same time prushka was talking in the background, we couldn't focus on both. thus, kinda lessen the emotional aspect.
I see you had a similar first reaction to the movie as a lot of others in wholly "hating" Bondrewd. As other comments have surely also pointed out, the movie cut a lot of important scenes from the manga, which would explain much better the back story and Bondrewd's character, which you hopefully already caught up with afterwards. My feelings for him is complicated, but once you understand the full story, you can totally get why he even has an impressive number of fans out there. All I can say is that Tsukushi is such a genius in creating non-black-and-white, complicated and thought-provoking story & characters. This movie really did the manga a disservice.
10:57 yeah Prushka definitely goes on adventures with them 😭
About Bondrewd: his character is easy to misread because most of the information about him and his motives is given here and there, so it's easy to miss. In summary, due to the Zoaholic he lost his ability to feel bad about his actions, everything he says should bd taken at face value (he's not trying to ba manipulative or trick them at all, beyond the scope of what's needed for his SCIENCE), and he was trying to recreate what happened to Nanachi on himself so that he could safely explore the sixth layer and bring his findings back to the surface.
More specifically:
-Bondrewed is the sole reason people know anything about how the Abyss works; what the affects of the curse are, how it's triggered, the fact that it gets weaker further from the center of the shaft, how to make white whistles, etc. He was made a White Whistle because of his accomplishments in helping humanity more safely explore and understand this place.
-The creation of a white whistle requires a WILLING human sacrifice. If the person doesn't want to become a white whistle to help the intended user, the process WILL NOT WORK.
-Because of that, Bondrewed used the Zoaholic to copy himself, the sacrificed his original body to become his own white whistle.
-One of the affects of the Zoaholic is that it destroys your humanity and literally MAKES you go insane. However, Bondrewed was SO dedicated to studying the abyss that when he lost his humanity, rather than becoming a mass murderer or serial rapist or something, he just became a scientist that didn't have the ability to understand what "too far" means. (Granted, that's actually scarier for someone who's genuinely nice to LITERALLY NOT UNDERSTAND why it's a bad thing to hurt someone, even if it's helping further science...)
-To help make exploring the abyss even safer, Bondrewed wanted to find a way around the curse of the sixth layer (which will either kill you or turn you into a hollow like Mitty).
-Since the curse only affects humans, he needed (what he viewed as) willing sacrifices who would let him study it, leading to the experiment that Mitty and Nanachi went through.
-The way the kids were transported from the surface wasn't a shortcut or a hidden path, it was literally just an armored box that the Umbral Hands would carry while they descended on the normal path (protecting the box from the monsters themselves).
-In that experiment, he had already discovered that "forcing the curse to one container" wouldn't work with animals or two people who didn't care about each other. His next attempt was on two good friends, in the hopes that the desire to protect a friend would override the desire to die while being hit with the curse (which is why Nanachi was "just in time").
-This gave him two ideas: one was the cartridges (which would use the same technology as the elevator to pump the curse away from him and into the person in the cartridge), and the other was to get the same "blessing" that Nanachi had (a body that, while not IMMUNE, was still RESISTANT to the curse).
-He tried doing the same thing on himself (using two of "him", like when he made his white whistle), but unfortunately, while he could still be hit with the curse, the abyss no longer saw him as human enough for the same process to work. He couldn't become his own cartridge, nor would the abyss give him its blessing.
-He started getting the volunteer kids to like him (using Nanachi as bait to lure them in) and became genuine friends with them. In his mind, he did genuinely care for them and appreciated what he saw as their willing sacrifices. Once the feeling was strong enough, he would turn them into cartridges.
-While this worked for avoiding the curse, he still couldn't get the blessing. Friendship wasn't strong enough. It needed to be LOVE.
-Prushka was the daughter of an Umbral Hand who was being transported in the box (like other children), but there was some sort of accident and the box was damaged, nearly killing her.
-Bondrewed decided to become her father to develop a bond of familial love with her (after all, a child wouldn't develop romantic love for him (that would be weird!), and an adult would be too big for a cartridge, so he needed the strongest kind of love that exists between an adult and a child: parental love).
-Bondrewed GENUINELY loved Prushka like a daughter. Like with the white whistles, it wouldn't work if he was faking it; it had to be mutual, not one-sided. It's just that, since Bondrewed lost his humanity, he doesn't feel bad about sacrificing the things he loves for the greater good (and doesnt understand why that's a bad thing when the "thing" in question is a person).
-The other requirement was that she had to want to PROTECT him (like Mitty was protecting Nanachi), but he was having trouble getting her to feel that. That's why he let one of "him" get killed in front of her, then revealed himself right afterwards; to maximize the feelings of "I don't want papa to die; I must protect him".
-Now that Prushka's emotional requirements had been met, he turned her into a cartridge. Then, when she was "used", the emotions between them were the same as the emotions between Nanachi and Mitty in the elevator, and the same transformation took place in Bonedrewed. The rumble of scientific triumph.
-Because Prushka was also wanting to sacrifice herself for Riko, she became her white whistle as well.
-In the end, Bondrewed was genuinely impressed that they found a way to beat him and was happy that they would get to go learn more about the abyss. In his mind, while it was disappointing that he lost the body he had just gotten, he had still finally reproduced the experimental results he was wanting to, and they had proven that their will was stronger than his, so he had no problem yielding to them.
TL;DR Bondrewed is a fascinating and complex character. He's not evil, just a friendly scientist who's tragically and TERRIFYINGLY incapable of empathy.
The other part that people misinterpret is when Nanachi says that there are no more Umbra Hands that can fight them. There are, but they are more spread out and will now just run away instead of fighting head on.
He can still turn kids into cartridges and get the blessing in different bodies, that was one other reason why he didn't feel as irritated by them destroying his #blessedup existence!
You're wrong, he is evil while still loving his sacrifices.
Edit: Rather than evil, I think he just doesn't know what the limit is. Still, his experiment is really horrible.
i just had dejavu... you know what im talking about? XD
im not reading allat 🤣
@@BigJMC Bruh don't spoil, the anime hasn't gotten that far yet
This whole series is just PAIN.......but a masterpiece so far
Prushka: "Papa, I wanna become a white whistle"
Bondrewd: "Hold my beer."
"I think, deep down, Reg's a furry"
Why would you say something SO controversial but SO brave?
It's true though, I'm 100% sure of it too.
@@urtoryu_dy_althraidn just wate till season 2 for confirmation/denial
@@kazadori164 As a manga reader, I am certain it is the truth, everything points towards it.
_rumble of scientific triumph intensifies_
i actually love that they are all gonna go on adventures together prushka as, well ya know. and bondrewd gets to see what nanachi sees.
What’s so cool about this arc is that Bondrewd, despite being the antagonist gets everyone gets something that they wanted, but at a terrible price. Even Bondrewd himself
well....technically prushka DID join them on their journey.
dude ...
Dont forget "Papa Pole" XD OMG It's so dark I have to laugh to keep myself sane
based on other comments i read, it was explained in an interview that Bondrewd taught Prushka when they were dissecting animals and stuff. Either way, i dont think Bondrewd is that kind of person, as twisted as he is.
Bondrew is awesome as the second white whistle, and we still haven't seen the third one yet. Season 2 the episode was good.
Considering that the others are called "The Mysterious" and "The Chosen", my expectations are very high.
There are six white whistles.
Lyza "The Sovereign of Annihilation"
Ozen "The Unmoveable Sovereign"
Bondrewd "The Soverign of Dawn"
Srajo "The Sovereign of Mystery"
Wakuna "The Sovereign of Guidance"
Riko does not have a title yet.
@@orangesilver4568 Six known White Whistles, there might be more. Ozen said those were the ones she knew were in the Abyss at the time.
Also, you didn't have the full titles:
The Sovereign of Annihilation, Lyza the Annihilator.
The Unmovable Sovereign, Ozen the Imovable.
The Sovereign of Dawn, Bondrewd the Novel.
The Sovereign of Mystery, Srajo the Mysterious.
The Sovereign of Guidance, Wakuna the Chosen.
and
The Sovereign of Children, Riko.
She was refered to as such two times, so I'd say it's safe to call her that.
I would expect Bondrewd to have reported her to the surface by now, so she might even be officially considered a White Whistle at this point, at least I hope she is.
@@s3a.w They never explain how the titles came to be.
The titles fit both their personalities and achievements perfectly, at least the ones we know, so I'd guess they probably just receive titles considering their image.
Having "The Mysterious" and "The Chosen" as titles makes me think they just pick what feels right to describe the person.
I don't know if she has a title in the manga yet, but I think a cool one for Riko would be "Sovereign of Adventure, Riko the Undead"
Bondrewds voice actor also voiced kira from jojo, sephiroth in ffvii remake, narutos dad, and enel from one piece, which are some of my favorite characters.
Only voicing villains, I love this guy's dedication to his work.
The pain continues
Bondold, even if his body dies, he can shift his consciousness to a masked person unless he destroys Zoaholic.
The real Bondold died after turning into a white whistle.
The Bondold that exists now is just a bodyless consciousness.
In many other series, I would question how a bunch of children manage to overcome threats and obstacles that even full grown adults with decades of experience and badassery would struggle with. But then you remember Reg singlehandedly is the most valuable and effective tool ever seen by cave delvers. His strength and combat can rival that of even the most dangerous foes in The Abyss and his firepower is nigh second to none. Plus his grappling arms mean that the group can descend much more rapidly where it may take other delvers would take hours.
And this is what makes Made in Abyss so great, the writing, the characters, the world building and how the story is told is written so tightly.
Not to mention Nanachi's ability to see the Force Field, which means not only detecting anything that can think, but also reading thoughts to some extent.
It's scary that some fans still thinks Bondrewd is not evil because he cares about the children that he is putting in hell for science. Just think about that. We literally saw the results of his twisted experiment and saw the pain the children suffered but all of that is negated because Bondrewd cares about the children to remember their name but not care enough to stop hurting them? Like, the heck. XD
I get where you coming from but no. We get how evil his deeds were, but his first sacrifice was himself and his relic destroys any empathy he have and only left his optimism hence his own white whistle, which both created White Whistle all the WW owed him including Riko's mum and the inhumane facility aiming to further humanity's evolution towards going down the abyss. If you think these White Whistles are good people I don't know what else to tell you, the show just literally tells you that WW is made from a willing sacrifice and worst kind of pain out of love
@@abidyo Understanding how he became evil doesn't make him non evil, neither does the fact that his experiments help cave raiders. Also Basic Simp never said that he thought that White Whistles are all good guys, so where is that even coming from?
And yes, I've seen countless people say that Bondrewd is not evil. And there's a sizeable chunk of people who unironically romanticize him as "best dad" (there are also people like me who just meme that, but I digress)
@@ookami5329 I'm pretty sure I agreed with him and was only adding some points that these aren't normal people and most likely being WW and sociopathic/psychopathic goes hand in hand. Riko's mom literally left her own daughter and presumably tell her to come down. That's crazy person behavior
@@abidyo ah ok. I thought you were disagreeing
@@ookami5329 honestly I dunno. I wrote it when I was drunk but now too lazy to review the discussion again 🤷🏻♂️😂
4:48 I wouldn't say Stranger Things have high stakes... it pretends to be, it's like GoT Season 8, logically speaking most should've been dead but they aren't and if they kill people it's the new or lesser-known characters. Basically saying they increased the stakes at the same time they thickened the plot armor as well.
God I love this series. The characters and story are top notch and with the worldbuilding and music make this feel so perfect. I knew nothing about it when I started watching it on Amazon and holy crap didn't expect it to go so dark. The movie is a great bridge to the second season and I have my HIDIVE subscription to watch it. Prushka's desire to go with Riko on her adventures made it possible for her to become a White Whistle (although I think you may need more than just the whistle, but that's fine). Hope to see you repost the reactions to the first season. I'd like to see them.
This movie man..as crazy as it sounds the second season will be one hundred times more painful.
lol, just when you talked about it in the Overlord video xD
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20:51
me: ha, jokes on you pal
damn, I love your reaction, you got the whole point
Bondrewd and Julius have the same VA
Also Paul from Mushoku Tensei
Also Kira Yoshikage from Jojo's Part 4. Morikawa in general is pretty fucking goated. Pretty fucked that the anime cast him as Bondrewd in my opinion, given that other than Kira, he also played some of my favorite "father-characters" in anime (Minato from Naruto, Isaburo from Gintama, Paul from MT).
Bondrewd, is very human father, the best of Balance Antagonist
Yeah reg is defiantly a furry
oyaoyaoya
Not sure if I interpreted this right but when Nanachi had a flashback of Mitty when she was analyzing the whistle, and looking at the design of the whistle (it looked half white and half silver), I think half of it Prushka and the other half is Mitty. Might be wrong and it's just Nanachi comparing the relationship between Riko and Prushka with her relationship with Mitty.
The latter. Nanachi was thinking "For somebody to be able to care about another person even while having the Curse forced on them..." and then remembered it was the same with Mitty
Bondrewd is dad of the year
Bondrewd, in my opinion, makes Shou Tucker look like a saint.
Personally I disagree. Yes what Bondrewd did was way more fucked up, but in reality he's better than Tucker. Tucker experimented on his wife and daughter purely out of greed and desperation in order to keep his State Alchemist license. Bondrewd did all of these experiments for the betterment of humanity. Is it still fucked up? Yes. Did he do it out of malice or sadistic pleasure? No. He truly loved Prushka and every child he experimented on, and quite a few loved him too considering some of them were used up as Cartridges to slowly build up the Blessing as he ascended from the 6th Layer. He lacks all morals and ethics because he's no longer a human.
@@shogunstreamer9811 We disagree. Intent yes, but magnitude matters. How many people, mostly kids, did Bondrewd kill for his ambitions?
@@Chrisfragger1 Definitely no arguing magnitude. Bondrewd did a bunch of shit, but the point is that the intent still matters. If a person murders another person to rob them, vs a person who murdered 5 people to save someone else. Obviously this example is incredibly watered down compared to the two, but Bondrewd is not at the level of evil that Tucker is at
@@shogunstreamer9811 agreed, bondrewd >>>>>>>tucker
Ah damn I hoped to see your reaction to sparagmos, but it was a good reaction nontheless
Legit curious now how fucked up Lyza has to be (if she is alive down there somehow, please do not spoil shit). Given that she also is a White Whistle, she has to have something wrong with her, although she seemed kinda chill in the flashbacks we got from Ozen. Super hyped for season 2.
If their titles are anything to go by she is the lord of annihilation
It’s not a spoiler since even in the manga we know nothing of Lyza but I think that when the party reaches her she’ll turn into a monster and they’ll eventually understand that that’s Lyza
The most we know about her is that she's massacred foreign explorers a few times, and I'd imagine she liked explosions because she used Blaze Reap.
I might seem fucked up for saying this but I found Mitty's death Sadder than this movie in terms of how much it broke me
maybe because it's a movie or its pacing, for example the final shot when bondrewd got shot by riko, at the same time prushka was talking in the background, we couldn't focus on both. thus, kinda lessen the emotional aspect.
I see you had a similar first reaction to the movie as a lot of others in wholly "hating" Bondrewd. As other comments have surely also pointed out, the movie cut a lot of important scenes from the manga, which would explain much better the back story and Bondrewd's character, which you hopefully already caught up with afterwards. My feelings for him is complicated, but once you understand the full story, you can totally get why he even has an impressive number of fans out there. All I can say is that Tsukushi is such a genius in creating non-black-and-white, complicated and thought-provoking story & characters. This movie really did the manga a disservice.
Nah this guy is much worse than tucker, he used hundreds of kids while tucker only used 1
How did you know that Prushka was Bondrewds kid before she said it? Something suspicious with you dude.
She said "papa's guests", it's obvious that she's referring to Bondrewd
*outro plays*