The bots ruined the market and right now all blues expect capes and accessories all 10 lucent. Its very hard to make lucent and u can only make big quantities from a field boss drop that u never get if u don't pvp. I think the other reason prices are so bad is because we don't have any reasons to buy lucent in the game. Everyone is geared and all whales already spent their lucent, their build is ready ages ago.
Nah, people are mostly on waiting and now holding their lucent because 2 star dungeons which drops armor that only drops on world boss on the current patch are coming and most people are already geared.
I agree that most of the lucent you make is from field boss drops, but it's a bit weird to say you'll never get them if you don't pvp. I think the pvp sucks in this game, but I've made almost 20k lucent from field boss drops, that have come exclusively from guild bosses. I'm in casual guilds, one on my main one on my alt, that's 14 bosses a week. Like the video says, I'm basically just doing dungeons for the trait unlock stones, and maybe a couple hundred lucent here and there if I hit a decent trait to extract.
Just for the sake of accuracy it is worth mentioning that you wouldn't even get 710 lucent. Most servers sit around 22% tax so you'd actually only get 550 from that loot ...
I stopped playing altogether a few days ago. I won't go back until T2 stuff is out to see what the update does. After about 3 weeks I was just .. idling mostly in the game, not pulled to do the dungeons anymore, and not goin to events. A few days before I was doing a single dungeon, sighing, then logging out. Then I logged in one day after , idled for an hour and realized I didn't have any enthusiasm to do anything. Realized I had been that way for a few days.
@@JKurayami exactly my realization 1 week ago. "For what am I doing what Im doing" is when you really understand how mid this game is, and how much it asks from you. Not even cosmetics are good enough and over prized af
I had the exact same experience. A few days ago as well, I too, found no excitement or enthusiasm, to do anything. To be honest there really wasn't much to do. I did all the contracts, which get old kind of quick. The dungeons where done and got nothing and did some token burn and got nothing that could of progressed my character. Nothing that was of worth. I too have quit since really the day of the siege. It was not that enjoyable. Cheers my friend.
you cant just be lazy and brainless and ask to get the same things as people who uses their brain to make the most out of everything to get their gears upgraded im f2p and i was able to max trait all mypurples i even have sets for pve and pvp and an alt character with 3400 cp i even have 30k lucents reserved
@@aarondrivesabus yeah some people pointed that out, I ended up cracking them later on (to trait my own ring) and got 200 lucent worth so, definitely should be included when I make an updated video
Can you answer an honest question for me? As a pve player, what am I progressing towards? I'm just over 3k CP and I can clear all t2 and all guild raids. I feel like i have no reason to grind these systems that are made just to grind for the sake of grinding. I feel like they really dropped the ball on pve
@@johnadams673the larger steamer guild left our server and pvp couldn’t be better now with 3 alliances fighting for control and a few other guilds just xfer over and thing have been spicy
3 dimensional essence that's 3 chances to get good traits from the jewelry crate with 2 rings 200~300 a piece from good trait and 200~ lucent if you lithograph them.
@@EhJay_Plays always get something from lithographs. Plus, this isn't even min maxing the random match making so you could get like 2-3 more dimensional essence.
Doing gods work thank you... I have about same luck running dungeons i have ran trea dungeon over 80 times no bow or staff yet but on my alt which is sns gs got each one over 3 times .... 😢😢😢
I like the series concept you have bro, keep up the good work, earned a sub from me 👍.. Be good to see a vid on the weekly Guild PvE Raid boss drops (personal loot and how much you can earn from them) etc cause lets face it .. unless you are in super Hardcore 3.7k gearscore group with all 70 guild member in attendance you aint getting a sniff at Open world raid drops. Plus EU trade prices are so high still, everyone saying they less now as market crashes but when you can only make small lucent gains weekly from content you cant even afford the prices of upgrades as they are now even.
@@DeepUnknown3281 i’m currently working on comparing open world dungeons and I can line up guild raids this week! Great idea!! Thank you for the support
@@EhJay_Plays accessories are t3 arent they? And since it uses a different currency than in korea to farm t2 I guess there will be different salvation tokens but yeh better safe than sorry
As a f2p player i can say i had no problem getting lucent to buy skins even, my guld is top 5 after the usual zerg tho so we still have a boss stone and shi. I had no problem gearing up, the thing is I just save everything, make just enough lucent so I can buy the things I need or want and everything else goes into blessings that turn into upgrades... I don't need 40k lucent. I don't need tevent to be relevant in a fight, ofc I would be more relevant that I am now but it doesn't bother me as long as I can still kill them and I still can with my duke magna...
Undercutting so heavily is also cutting yourself in the fingers as you make the market crash that way. Sell at prime-time or on the weekend and you'll get a lot more lucent compared to what you get on a weekday.
Its funny to me to see people complaining about "the glory days" before bots and stuff. I started a couple weeks ago and have been addicted lmfao. Made about 4000 lucent in 3 weeks, so its pretty on par with your estimates (you make some extra lucent from guilds, pouches, other petty rewards like abyss currency). Whole point of game is to grind and play with friends in a guild. Its super fun to me even if I get zerged at the world bosses 🤷♂️
This is Also your RNG someone could do the same run and get a top tier trait every run. The money Is what the trait is for the most part. If all your drops were max health or heavy attack you could have doubled your profits. Maybe the Devs could up the drop rate on higher quality traits.
@@MikeD-w1v agreed yeah, but this is a realistic random run, which I think is the most accurate sample I could obtain… at the end of the day, it is all RNG!
I didn't bother checking for every item, but I can tell you for sure that debuff bracer trait is worth under 25 lucent on my server. I know cause I have one and it's not worth extracting. Add in the tax on top of it all....
Yeah ive been farming coop dungeons and open world dungeons for a month and have only gotten a total of 4 purple items. I gave up because rng is in the shitter so its impossible for me to progress
Quick tips, there are quicker ways to check the worth of items instead of looking up the name everytime. You could hit the extract button on the bottom and then search that specific item inside of the extraction UI, also doing random dungeons arent worth it for lucent, only do temple slaughter the items there make the most lucent, I made over 1200 with 1800 contract tokens
its always better to optimize, run the dungeons with the most valiable drops, same thing with open world ones, you still do random just cancel when you dont wwant to run that one just like everyone else is doing. for example im not running deaths abyss because the drops are useless to my character and sell for nothing. good videos man btw.
Yeah, I could have done this as well, I kind of wanted it to be truly random and to simulate what “most” people would do. But normally, I would only tun what I need or what has good drops (Temple of Slaughter)!
This is the main reason my guild quit before tevent on KR it’s soo much better to just save a bit of cash each week instead of eat food IRL and get bis gear at the weekend 🤣
I got 500 hours in TL and I am thinking of quitting, I don't feel this game rewards your time nor your effort, it is all RNG based from pvp to lucent making. I don't know if you feel it too, what's your take?
im at 500+ hours, yeah somehow it is full of rng. Exploration amitoi RNG, Weekly Reward RNG, Coop Dungeon RNG, WORLD BOSS RNG. Chest & pouch RNG. Honestly we just need new ingame content, upcoming t2 dungeon with new mechanics but its basically the same t1 dungeon. They should just release the rune system so players can work or build on something. Im level 14 almost max mastery on my weapon so basically i can level a 3rd weapon mastery so that will probably make me excited again.
Between this, and Abyssal Dungeon drops, it almost takes like just over a month to get above 3,000 GS. Considering it's a F2P game, I wouldn't really say that's terrible. I come from FFXIV, where in order to gear up your character with the best possible gear from raid content, you either get extremely lucky, or realistically it takes you over 2 months. The game gates your progression to only being able to get 1 gear item per raid per week. The thing is, you're competing against 7 other players for it. Even if you're in a group of friends, that means you'll need 8 weeks for everyone to get their items. In T&L, although you don't have to go through that, the items you get aren't the "best of the best". To get those, you either save up crazy amounts of lucent, spend on the game, or hope for a lucky field boss drop. Dungeon items and Abyss drops are too common now to make real money off of.
Again interesting take. Coming from Rift/ESO i dislike the lack of ability to farm even low drop chance for X amount of Hours / Rng because everything is heavily gated behind daily or weekly. Dungeons for example, 3 a day is terrible what if i wnat to farm it 50 times that day to see if i can get a drop, i cant. Keep the 3xDaily as the extra loot box .. yes... but let me farm it to my hearts content with lower drop rates. Same goes for Abys Open World Dungeons being limit so severly on your Token count refreshed by dailies that are not enough for those of us that like or want to grind.
@@DeepUnknown3281 It would be great if you could just grind dungeons, sure. Especially since dungeon items aren't that rare anymore, and are relatively cheap compared to the really good ones. IMO you should be allowed to repeatedly farm dungeons to get fully-traited blue gear, but limit the purple items to the chest you get 3 times a day. Alas, gaming companies are greedy, and considering it's a F2P game, it's obvious why they don't let us do this. And it really does suck. It's absolutely disgusting how every single MMO is like this. Even gacha games (which are single-player) have gated acquisition mechanics. Only games like PoE and Diablo (which aren't MMOs) let you grind for as long as you want. Hopefully this will change someday.
You can get to 3k gs in 1 week, just doing dungeons with 2 characters, and you can even skip the open ones in 1 character. At least thats what I did with my actual main sitting at 3740
@@noxjpg9110 We discussing those peeps like myself that spend more time in game than the avg casual. 3k is low GS, im talking gating materials behind daily farms that take 1hr to complete, this hurts the game because players like myself multiple toons, multiple builds per toon have nothing to do.
Bro ur luck is 100% better than mine, i wont even dream with 500 lucent for all of that work and then come ur guild and steal anything good that u may drop
Yep, only worth the time are Guild Raid and it is still based on luck. Other than that, other things are all waste of time. and if you are not in a top guild then you mostly have 1~2hrs of game time per day and idling the rest waiting for the WB peace to come out which btw is dmg contribution based (dominated by whales) and a 0.03 change to drop a chest. LOL. Casuals slowly quitting until only the whales are left. they can play with themselves then. Our server is dominated by 5+ guild alliance which monopolize all pvp events (even siege, easily) and if you join them you probably won't even get the drops because core member are always priority. you might even be kicked after getting archboss weapon if you arent a core member.
Its normal in MMO that you take advantage to sell early and earn. Bots might had a small factor in price drops but price of items will go down no matter what as the supply keeps growing and not enough demand to stable the price. Now if you fail to take advantage of it i suggest complete your t1 build before t2 gear release so you can farm and sell early for decent price. Note : Go do your research when t2 comes. Know what can be farmed solo that drops and can be sold for high price. You cant burn token in a group and say that is proper farming/hunting. In any MMO you will always want to solo farm to get specific drops in a specific mob if you can and that makes it more profitable. Hell im even doin solo farm on lower open world dungeon on my alt if i have extra time because its just way more profitable than burning it in a group.
You’re too late. Most players already have most of what they need. Only way to make some lucent is good traits for weapons and rings. Best to join a small guild that rolls for boss gear in guild hall. That’s how I make most my lucent.
The rng in this game is stupid item can have price of 10k lucent but only with right trait lol so you can farm it whole life and dont get your golden ticket xD
@@EhJay_Plays on my server the same items woude make you 300 so yea 710 is good will say only thing worth was the dim tokens can make the boots on my server from the chest too sell them for 300
I miss the good ol mmorpg days where getting purple gear meant something and it took a while to get them. Nowadays it's all about rushing the game abd getting your epics asap and then complaining there's "nothing to do".
@@EhJay_Plays idk if this is the correct way to do this because i do not know if the lucent is sold cheaper the more you buy. I just took the 99.99USD for 6000 Lucent divided it and got the USD/ Lucent then just multiplied it by the amount of Lucent you made to get how much lucent you made for either the 3 hour Random Dungeon or the 20k World Dungeon Haul. Sucks but you also didnt pay them for it. and since the Lucent present can only be injected into the game through real money. imo you did well. Free money is free money.
u at least good that can make 700+ lucent for 4500 token for ppl like me f2p until now have only 1400+ lucent in account and my cp just 2900+ for farm item from dungeon so basic feel so sick and even cool cosmic that u love and want buy after u farm some lucent cannot buy any more wtf with this game.
@EhJay_Plays lol yes? In any other game if you could say that in a few hours, while playing the game, you can earn 14 bucks of in game currency to spend toward whatever you like, you'd be ecstatic. A ton of games don't even give you the option of earning premium currency. You can buy every skin in this game without spending a dime. That's pretty awesome
@@EhJay_Plays That is actually good, for a kid with no job. You want them to pay minimum wage for playing their game lol? What makes it feel bad is that the actual cost for items via lucent is expensive for a video game, $10 for that necklace etc, but if I made $10 worth real money on the games I played for a few hours then I would've been a happier kid. Another example to support my statement is buying leauge of legend skins, you could get 2 cheap skins for $10, for your few hours, so it's not a bad amount of money to make in reality. It'll never compare to just swiping but everyone knows that.
It's a shit design, there's nothing in this game you can farm for steady income. It is all RNG, you get a good drop, you make lucent, otherwise you don't. You can try sell blue traits for 10 lucent but no one is going to buy them this late in the game. We really need the transformation system to feed the useless drops and hope for something that is actually worth something. All the f2p people that are bragging how they didn't spend anything and are high CP, is only because they started playing the game when it released and were selling items high and then later buying them low.
@@Anpan-hx4jm Rng doesnt mean . You can predict RNG if you know the %. most players are free to play and most players are around 3k gs SO they get what they need to progress eventho its rng. no reason to be Hyperbolic.
This is why TL slowly losing its player base and will still continue to lose players. 2-3 weeks of playing yet no improvement on your character is enough to lose interest in a game.
This is such a dumb take lmfao. You covered lucent only based on dungeons. You can get it from open world grind, guild raids, open world bosses or conflict bosses. Say you don’t have a good guild without saying you don’t have a good guild. 😊
what is the chance of you getting a drop or a boss chest form world bosses? come one you can't measure rng and called it "a way of making lucent". imagine free rolling with 70 other players for that one item, or being on a priority list with 5 or more for that one bis item you need so bad.
There are tons of ways to get lucent in addition to dungeons… I didn’t say there wasn’t? I have a great guild which I get a big chunk of my lucent from. The point is to talk about dungeon drops…. Thanks for watching and commenting :D
The bots ruined the market and right now all blues expect capes and accessories all 10 lucent. Its very hard to make lucent and u can only make big quantities from a field boss drop that u never get if u don't pvp. I think the other reason prices are so bad is because we don't have any reasons to buy lucent in the game. Everyone is geared and all whales already spent their lucent, their build is ready ages ago.
yeah, gear almost isnt even owrth selling anymore, I'm just stacking to transfer big blessing into t2 gear at this point
@@danielcaparros and the fact that players still defending this game in the sense of "YoU jUsT GoTta FaRM LucEnT" is beyond delusional lol
@@tiltingart9276 right now is impossible to make lucent, but with T2 there is possibilities to make big lucent.
Nah, people are mostly on waiting and now holding their lucent because 2 star dungeons which drops armor that only drops on world boss on the current patch are coming and most people are already geared.
I agree that most of the lucent you make is from field boss drops, but it's a bit weird to say you'll never get them if you don't pvp. I think the pvp sucks in this game, but I've made almost 20k lucent from field boss drops, that have come exclusively from guild bosses. I'm in casual guilds, one on my main one on my alt, that's 14 bosses a week. Like the video says, I'm basically just doing dungeons for the trait unlock stones, and maybe a couple hundred lucent here and there if I hit a decent trait to extract.
Just for the sake of accuracy it is worth mentioning that you wouldn't even get 710 lucent. Most servers sit around 22% tax so you'd actually only get 550 from that loot ...
Yeah, every server tax is different but still the same idea
BTW if you click the trait extraction on an item you can search the market way better for that specific trait
I stopped playing altogether a few days ago. I won't go back until T2 stuff is out to see what the update does.
After about 3 weeks I was just .. idling mostly in the game, not pulled to do the dungeons anymore, and not goin to events.
A few days before I was doing a single dungeon, sighing, then logging out.
Then I logged in one day after , idled for an hour and realized I didn't have any enthusiasm to do anything.
Realized I had been that way for a few days.
@@JKurayami yeah it’s getting pretty rough ngl
@@JKurayami exactly my realization 1 week ago. "For what am I doing what Im doing" is when you really understand how mid this game is, and how much it asks from you. Not even cosmetics are good enough and over prized af
I had the exact same experience. A few days ago as well, I too, found no excitement or enthusiasm, to do anything. To be honest there really wasn't much to do. I did all the contracts, which get old kind of quick. The dungeons where done and got nothing and did some token burn and got nothing that could of progressed my character. Nothing that was of worth. I too have quit since really the day of the siege. It was not that enjoyable. Cheers my friend.
its because you guys are not playing the game how its supposed to be play
you cant just be lazy and brainless and ask to get the same things as people who uses their brain to make the most out of everything to get their gears upgraded im f2p and i was able to max trait all mypurples i even have sets for pve and pvp and an alt character with 3400 cp i even have 30k lucents reserved
3 salvations could be 3 rings, could be another 700 lucent
@@aarondrivesabus yeah some people pointed that out, I ended up cracking them later on (to trait my own ring) and got 200 lucent worth so, definitely should be included when I make an updated video
you can hit the extract trait button and then use the action house search on the extracted trait
Just subbed, dude idk why but I love the format of your videos, they're made very well keep up the greatwork and thank you for the content.
Man! Thank you so much, this makes me so happy to hear, I'm glad people enjoy!
have your tried the same test just farming one particular dungeon. This would focus the rng to one map and not spread it out?
I will try this!
@@EhJay_Plays Nice!!!
Can you answer an honest question for me? As a pve player, what am I progressing towards? I'm just over 3k CP and I can clear all t2 and all guild raids. I feel like i have no reason to grind these systems that are made just to grind for the sake of grinding. I feel like they really dropped the ball on pve
PvE end game is kinda hard, because that is it.... maybe look into PvP?
@EhJay_Plays whales killed my server. Pvp is just 1 guild dominating every event... think the game is dying or atleast my server is
@@johnadams673the larger steamer guild left our server and pvp couldn’t be better now with 3 alliances fighting for control and a few other guilds just xfer over and thing have been spicy
3 dimensional essence that's 3 chances to get good traits from the jewelry crate with 2 rings 200~300 a piece from good trait and 200~ lucent if you lithograph them.
fair enough, or you could get dog though... LOL
@@EhJay_Plays always get something from lithographs. Plus, this isn't even min maxing the random match making so you could get like 2-3 more dimensional essence.
I'm confused how it's not min-maxing the random match making as I que'd all 15 dungeons as random?
@@EhJay_Plays He probably meant rejecting the queue until you get the dungeon you need fragments for, that's not possible anymore.
sadly it's not 200 for me, litograph is like 80+ lucent in my server ahah
quick reminder!! always USE food buff when ever u go to open dungeon..it helps alot!
@@dailydoseanimearchive1785 I’ve been using the halloween food, what other food do you get?
@@EhJay_Plays crab pies
Doing gods work thank you... I have about same luck running dungeons i have ran trea dungeon over 80 times no bow or staff yet but on my alt which is sns gs got each one over 3 times .... 😢😢😢
My alt is also SNS/GS, great minds think alike
I like the series concept you have bro, keep up the good work, earned a sub from me 👍.. Be good to see a vid on the weekly Guild PvE Raid boss drops (personal loot and how much you can earn from them) etc cause lets face it .. unless you are in super Hardcore 3.7k gearscore group with all 70 guild member in attendance you aint getting a sniff at Open world raid drops. Plus EU trade prices are so high still, everyone saying they less now as market crashes but when you can only make small lucent gains weekly from content you cant even afford the prices of upgrades as they are now even.
@@DeepUnknown3281 i’m currently working on comparing open world dungeons and I can line up guild raids this week! Great idea!! Thank you for the support
Get the Accessoires from the salvation tokens, you could get some good traits from the rings
I’m holding out in them until the 2 stars come out… doubt it will matter but, just being safe LOL
@@EhJay_Plays accessories are t3 arent they? And since it uses a different currency than in korea to farm t2 I guess there will be different salvation tokens but yeh better safe than sorry
I believe so, just want to be 100% sure as it’s only a couple days away
As a f2p player i can say i had no problem getting lucent to buy skins even, my guld is top 5 after the usual zerg tho so we still have a boss stone and shi. I had no problem gearing up, the thing is I just save everything, make just enough lucent so I can buy the things I need or want and everything else goes into blessings that turn into upgrades... I don't need 40k lucent. I don't need tevent to be relevant in a fight, ofc I would be more relevant that I am now but it doesn't bother me as long as I can still kill them and I still can with my duke magna...
Sometimes less is more :D
Undercutting so heavily is also cutting yourself in the fingers as you make the market crash that way. Sell at prime-time or on the weekend and you'll get a lot more lucent compared to what you get on a weekday.
Good call
Its funny to me to see people complaining about "the glory days" before bots and stuff. I started a couple weeks ago and have been addicted lmfao. Made about 4000 lucent in 3 weeks, so its pretty on par with your estimates (you make some extra lucent from guilds, pouches, other petty rewards like abyss currency). Whole point of game is to grind and play with friends in a guild. Its super fun to me even if I get zerged at the world bosses 🤷♂️
Glad you’re enjoying!!
This is Also your RNG someone could do the same run and get a top tier trait every run. The money Is what the trait is for the most part. If all your drops were max health or heavy attack you could have doubled your profits. Maybe the Devs could up the drop rate on higher quality traits.
@@MikeD-w1v agreed yeah, but this is a realistic random run, which I think is the most accurate sample I could obtain… at the end of the day, it is all RNG!
@ Yeah either Way it’s bad lol
I didn't bother checking for every item, but I can tell you for sure that debuff bracer trait is worth under 25 lucent on my server. I know cause I have one and it's not worth extracting. Add in the tax on top of it all....
Yeah I’m saving everything and only extracting things actually worth it, right now
True..
Yeah ive been farming coop dungeons and open world dungeons for a month and have only gotten a total of 4 purple items. I gave up because rng is in the shitter so its impossible for me to progress
@@Sasqe yeah, a lot of people feeling that way rn
Quick tips, there are quicker ways to check the worth of items instead of looking up the name everytime. You could hit the extract button on the bottom and then search that specific item inside of the extraction UI, also doing random dungeons arent worth it for lucent, only do temple slaughter the items there make the most lucent, I made over 1200 with 1800 contract tokens
ima be a temple of slaughter main
Well, depends on your luck again
don't forget about the tax. (20%+3%)
peace
@@dedensarifhamdani7806 ours is 21% but you’re damn right, pennies 😭
The rng makes lucent farming tough. I must have ran Kharnix 50+ times and have yet to get the bow.
Sounds like the RNG is taking a toll on people for sure
Y not just buy the chest for 80 tokens
@@kelisestephenson114 I used that for the dagger, but the point is after so many times I still haven’t seen it dropped.
gotta extract bro.
Umm, yeah, I know… thanks
its always better to optimize, run the dungeons with the most valiable drops, same thing with open world ones, you still do random just cancel when you dont wwant to run that one just like everyone else is doing. for example im not running deaths abyss because the drops are useless to my character and sell for nothing. good videos man btw.
Yeah, I could have done this as well, I kind of wanted it to be truly random and to simulate what “most” people would do. But normally, I would only tun what I need or what has good drops (Temple of Slaughter)!
This is the main reason my guild quit before tevent on KR it’s soo much better to just save a bit of cash each week instead of eat food IRL and get bis gear at the weekend 🤣
KR seems much better rn
The “1 weeks” really got me to click on this video
@@kelisestephenson114 thanks for the feedback!
I got 500 hours in TL and I am thinking of quitting, I don't feel this game rewards your time nor your effort, it is all RNG based from pvp to lucent making.
I don't know if you feel it too, what's your take?
I would agree to this, like a lot of the comments… the game is in a rough state and people are dropping like flies
Damn dude you should be tired holy shit 500 hours is crazy I play almost everyday and I’m only at 230 lmao get off the game take a break seriously.
@@Tounfain I appreciate your concern, i am not tired of the game cuz of burnout but rather the endgame mechanics of it.
the games a glorified slot machine
im at 500+ hours, yeah somehow it is full of rng. Exploration amitoi RNG, Weekly Reward RNG, Coop Dungeon RNG, WORLD BOSS RNG. Chest & pouch RNG.
Honestly we just need new ingame content, upcoming t2 dungeon with new mechanics but its basically the same t1 dungeon. They should just release the rune system so players can work or build on something. Im level 14 almost max mastery on my weapon so basically i can level a 3rd weapon mastery so that will probably make me excited again.
5 purple... I did the same and got 1... so... sometimes is only as good as your rng.
Ouch
same lol i used 4800 alltogether on an alt and got 1 purple😂
U dindt make 710 lucent ur adding it up before taking out the server tax
Prices drop as many people max out their equips and traits.
true, yes
bots
Between this, and Abyssal Dungeon drops, it almost takes like just over a month to get above 3,000 GS. Considering it's a F2P game, I wouldn't really say that's terrible.
I come from FFXIV, where in order to gear up your character with the best possible gear from raid content, you either get extremely lucky, or realistically it takes you over 2 months. The game gates your progression to only being able to get 1 gear item per raid per week. The thing is, you're competing against 7 other players for it. Even if you're in a group of friends, that means you'll need 8 weeks for everyone to get their items.
In T&L, although you don't have to go through that, the items you get aren't the "best of the best". To get those, you either save up crazy amounts of lucent, spend on the game, or hope for a lucky field boss drop. Dungeon items and Abyss drops are too common now to make real money off of.
@@Calembunial hmmm, interesting POV
Again interesting take. Coming from Rift/ESO i dislike the lack of ability to farm even low drop chance for X amount of Hours / Rng because everything is heavily gated behind daily or weekly. Dungeons for example, 3 a day is terrible what if i wnat to farm it 50 times that day to see if i can get a drop, i cant. Keep the 3xDaily as the extra loot box .. yes... but let me farm it to my hearts content with lower drop rates. Same goes for Abys Open World Dungeons being limit so severly on your Token count refreshed by dailies that are not enough for those of us that like or want to grind.
@@DeepUnknown3281 It would be great if you could just grind dungeons, sure. Especially since dungeon items aren't that rare anymore, and are relatively cheap compared to the really good ones.
IMO you should be allowed to repeatedly farm dungeons to get fully-traited blue gear, but limit the purple items to the chest you get 3 times a day.
Alas, gaming companies are greedy, and considering it's a F2P game, it's obvious why they don't let us do this. And it really does suck. It's absolutely disgusting how every single MMO is like this. Even gacha games (which are single-player) have gated acquisition mechanics. Only games like PoE and Diablo (which aren't MMOs) let you grind for as long as you want. Hopefully this will change someday.
You can get to 3k gs in 1 week, just doing dungeons with 2 characters, and you can even skip the open ones in 1 character.
At least thats what I did with my actual main sitting at 3740
@@noxjpg9110 We discussing those peeps like myself that spend more time in game than the avg casual. 3k is low GS, im talking gating materials behind daily farms that take 1hr to complete, this hurts the game because players like myself multiple toons, multiple builds per toon have nothing to do.
28.33 bucks for the open world dungeon
Bro I’d be happy with 700 lucent on the week, I get 50-100 with the loot
No shot its that low wtf??
@@EhJay_Plays Nah, he is kidding.
Bro ur luck is 100% better than mine, i wont even dream with 500 lucent for all of that work and then come ur guild and steal anything good that u may drop
Sounds like you need a new guild 😭
@ bro since the beginning of the game I didn’t joined a guild most of them either want u to no life the game 24/7 or will scam u for ur drops
HOMIE THE SALVATION TOKENS ARE YOUR MONEY MAKERS. 300 LUCENT A TRAIT?? ALSO 700 LUCENT FOR 3HRS OF GAMEPLAY IS NOT BAD IMO
Yeah the tokens help, I’m still not happy about the amount but everyone’s different I guess. It’s 700 lucent for a week, not 3 hours
Yea unless you get 10 Times in row stun chance health regen and other which are worthless rng is pretty bad in this game
daggers u showed lito is 150 so thats kinda good drop
crafting a weapon litho for 150 lucent is barely even worth it though...
Lucent is only important for pvp. Pve is about grinding for the armor and weapons anyway. I'm pve only so I only spend lucent I get on cosmetic stuff
@@zacharyneely882 fair!! Thanks for the comment
Yep, only worth the time are Guild Raid and it is still based on luck. Other than that, other things are all waste of time. and if you are not in a top guild then you mostly have 1~2hrs of game time per day and idling the rest waiting for the WB peace to come out which btw is dmg contribution based (dominated by whales) and a 0.03 change to drop a chest. LOL. Casuals slowly quitting until only the whales are left. they can play with themselves then.
Our server is dominated by 5+ guild alliance which monopolize all pvp events (even siege, easily) and if you join them you probably won't even get the drops because core member are always priority. you might even be kicked after getting archboss weapon if you arent a core member.
Yep this is very accurate
That's why I stopped playing and went back to playing Guild Wars 2.
@@cerealkillah7160 i need to try GW2!
U have 40% pruple 60% blue Gear when u do dung and u get 1 pruple evey 10 runs so
@@oldwaffle-dz2702 this guy stats
"1 week of dungeons in 3 hours" that's sounds so sad
it is sad
Time-gated content is fucking awful.
710 then less 22% tax 😢
True :’(
Its normal in MMO that you take advantage to sell early and earn. Bots might had a small factor in price drops but price of items will go down no matter what as the supply keeps growing and not enough demand to stable the price.
Now if you fail to take advantage of it i suggest complete your t1 build before t2 gear release so you can farm and sell early for decent price.
Note : Go do your research when t2 comes. Know what can be farmed solo that drops and can be sold for high price.
You cant burn token in a group and say that is proper farming/hunting. In any MMO you will always want to solo farm to get specific drops in a specific mob if you can and that makes it more profitable. Hell im even doin solo farm on lower open world dungeon on my alt if i have extra time because its just way more profitable than burning it in a group.
The problem is it probably wont sell anyway 😅
The game has become a time sinc everything in game is hidden behind fake drops
Yeah Ima about to drop this game. I cant get the set I want and Im not spending more money on lucent.
Sounds like you're not the only one
You’re too late. Most players already have most of what they need. Only way to make some lucent is good traits for weapons and rings. Best to join a small guild that rolls for boss gear in guild hall. That’s how I make most my lucent.
A lot of my lucent comes from the guild, yeah
The rng in this game is stupid item can have price of 10k lucent but only with right trait lol so you can farm it whole life and dont get your golden ticket xD
YEEEEEP 🤣
710 is good.
That’s cap
@@EhJay_Plays on my server the same items woude make you 300 so yea 710 is good will say only thing worth was the dim tokens can make the boots on my server from the chest too sell them for 300
First the PPl Flame over the high Prices, after they dont make Lucend XD Love f2p noobs XD
xDD
Dang bro, get some sleep and eat a good hearty meal.
I be doing that, 3 hours isn’t that long? LOL
I miss the good ol mmorpg days where getting purple gear meant something and it took a while to get them. Nowadays it's all about rushing the game abd getting your epics asap and then complaining there's "nothing to do".
I'm just talking my time in the game gearing up. I ain't rushing. I don't care if i get left behind.
i heard fishing is worth in game if your lucky to get pouches and get belandirs fragments @@ryuno2097
For real, makes me miss classic wow :’(
Ashes of Creation
3 hours for 12 bucks
For real
@@EhJay_Plays idk if this is the correct way to do this because i do not know if the lucent is sold cheaper the more you buy. I just took the 99.99USD for 6000 Lucent divided it and got the USD/ Lucent then just multiplied it by the amount of Lucent you made to get how much lucent you made for either the 3 hour Random Dungeon or the 20k World Dungeon Haul. Sucks but you also didnt pay them for it. and since the Lucent present can only be injected into the game through real money. imo you did well. Free money is free money.
I found this video very concerning.
u at least good that can make 700+ lucent for 4500 token
for ppl like me f2p until now have only 1400+ lucent in account and my cp just 2900+ for farm item from dungeon so basic feel so sick and even cool cosmic that u love and want buy after u farm some lucent cannot buy any more wtf with this game.
@@chysamorn9789 i have always been F2P and certainly have more lucent than that! I would recommend you join a guild!!
@EhJay_Plays yeah I already join but almost every blue trails at my server 10 lucent and other epic trail some random 20-100+ except weapon trail 😂😂😂
Yeah, recently everything has nose dived which is bad for selling
Well 1. You had really bad drops, its hardly ever that bad. 2. Thats still like 14 bucks worth of lucent that you got in a few hours lol
$14 for a few hours? You actually think that is…. Good?
@EhJay_Plays lol yes? In any other game if you could say that in a few hours, while playing the game, you can earn 14 bucks of in game currency to spend toward whatever you like, you'd be ecstatic. A ton of games don't even give you the option of earning premium currency. You can buy every skin in this game without spending a dime. That's pretty awesome
@@EhJay_Plays That is actually good, for a kid with no job. You want them to pay minimum wage for playing their game lol? What makes it feel bad is that the actual cost for items via lucent is expensive for a video game, $10 for that necklace etc, but if I made $10 worth real money on the games I played for a few hours then I would've been a happier kid. Another example to support my statement is buying leauge of legend skins, you could get 2 cheap skins for $10, for your few hours, so it's not a bad amount of money to make in reality. It'll never compare to just swiping but everyone knows that.
Bad compared to what ? and also if its the only way you know to make lucent... ....
@@feight_28 this is the only way for most people
It's a shit design, there's nothing in this game you can farm for steady income. It is all RNG, you get a good drop, you make lucent, otherwise you don't. You can try sell blue traits for 10 lucent but no one is going to buy them this late in the game. We really need the transformation system to feed the useless drops and hope for something that is actually worth something. All the f2p people that are bragging how they didn't spend anything and are high CP, is only because they started playing the game when it released and were selling items high and then later buying them low.
speaking facts
@@Anpan-hx4jm Rng doesnt mean . You can predict RNG if you know the %. most players are free to play and most players are around 3k gs SO they get what they need to progress eventho its rng.
no reason to be Hyperbolic.
@@feight_28 What are you smoking? Predict RNG.
it's starting to get boring i don't even care about dungeon drops anymore items are so cheap now i just coin burn and wait for the boss
@@mr.bricktop4894 T2 dungeons coming in 2 days! But yeah… I kinda agree
This is why TL slowly losing its player base and will still continue to lose players. 2-3 weeks of playing yet no improvement on your character is enough to lose interest in a game.
Yeaaap, lots of people are pretty fed up with it…
Pretty long intro
I know I gotta try and shorten it lol
Its not that bad f2p, you just dont know wtf you doing
@@diegobm62 LOL, elaborate?
This is such a dumb take lmfao. You covered lucent only based on dungeons. You can get it from open world grind, guild raids, open world bosses or conflict bosses. Say you don’t have a good guild without saying you don’t have a good guild. 😊
what is the chance of you getting a drop or a boss chest form world bosses? come one you can't measure rng and called it "a way of making lucent".
imagine free rolling with 70 other players for that one item, or being on a priority list with 5 or more for that one bis item you need so bad.
There are tons of ways to get lucent in addition to dungeons… I didn’t say there wasn’t? I have a great guild which I get a big chunk of my lucent from. The point is to talk about dungeon drops…. Thanks for watching and commenting :D