Can I just say left side brain ties into migraine... “you are surrounding, all my surroundings sounding down the mountain range, of my left side brain” maybe he took this concept back all the way to vessel or he just found a way to tie it in, but could he be talking about the bishops? I mean, if you think about it we mostly see the banditos at the top of a cliff and trench could be inbetween two mountain ranges, this also kinda explains the mountain range we head to in the part with the ocean. Also the shadows we can see following us, “shadows will scream that I’m alone” which could be the bishops trying to make him think he’s the only one going through this which can make fighting through depression very very difficult. This also kinda ties into the other chorus (which repeats the lyric of the shadows screaming he’s alone, and it makes sense he issues screaming because they would need to make themselves louder than everybody trying to help him know he’s not alone) “am I the only one I know, waging my wars behind my face and above my throat” if the shadows (or what we can assume are the bishops) make him feel like he’s alone in this, it would make sense that he’s wondering if he’s the only one with these issues. “My mind ship wrecked this is the only land my mind could find” he’s said he created dema, and we all know this, but have any of us thought about the fact he might have tried to make a better world but he just couldn’t, Dema just kept flooding his mind so it would be the only land he could find. Also “full of tidal waves, suicidal crazed lions” tidal waves also ties back to the part on the ocean, and in cut my lip he says he’s a lion. “And I will say that we should take a day to break away from all the pain our brain has made” This connects the the hiatus, he needed a break from all the stress and everything that comes with constant touring and shows. “The game is not played alone”... They called this a game, and we definitely didn’t play it alone, millions of us played it together, we were definitely not alone. Also ending on “we made it this far, we made it this-“ this indicates there’s still more we must go through to get to where we need to be, this is also the end of the song, and as you said, at the end the banditos aren’t with us, so we have to go through this part alone, we’re far, but we’re not done yet... I could just be making something out of nothing but I believe Dema does back a lot farther than most people realize
Thanks for continuing with my idea but yeah that first lyrics are from holding onto you. Other than that I agree for the most part, but I don’t know because I really feel that Tyler is singing to god when he screams “And I’ll be holding onto you”
Wonder if these lyrics tie in at all “You are surrounding all my surroundings Sounding down the mountain range Of my left-side brain You are surrounding all my surroundings Twisting the kaleidoscope Behind both of my eyes”
My theory: I think something else to notice is maybe when Tyler sings he’s a bandito but his fans are also banditos (tos, toes idk) it tells us that yeah he may be a celebrity but he’s still human and just as “normal” as all of us. Idk I think what I’m saying goes along with your statement of not idolizing the boys. Lemme elaborate more- if we, the clique, are banditos, and Tyler says “I’m a bandito” he’s telling us just because he’s famous does not mean he is more valuable than any other human. We all matter the same amount.
This ties into "we are twenty one pilots and so are you" like it would not be possible for them to be where they are without their supporters which makes them part of the band and also like you said they are just human like us
Well, also, if you go to a show ( if you are able to, obviously) or if you’ve ever seen a video of a show, they make it to where it is fully fuckin inclusive. Like hey NEVER STOP. Even down to the sage design, the stage almost looks blended into the crowd, and they’re always in the pit or the stands. It truly makes it personal and It’s crazy that They do that, it’s almost like a metaphor in itself
The shadows in the chapel are the niners. When you don't let the light turn red, their shadows become red. The shadows in the other parts of the game are banditos running besides you.
i seriously love the idea of the map symbolizing a brain cause basically is dema about mental illness, right? and these just happen inside the brain, and literally, having mental illnesses sometimes feel like being trapped in ones own head. i also love the aspect about the right hemisphere of the brain being responsible for creativity and emotions and that the banditos are on the right sight of the map as well. So in conclusion: Tyler and Josh are frickin geniuses and deserve all the admiration they can get for building this whole world for us.
You got my like girl. You summed up what I've been thinking about the statue, the tendency to idolize those we love and the brain/map and used way less words. Looking forward to further explanations from you!
Thought: the bridge represents Trench. When he moves from a stage to b stage, the songs change drastically. In a, the songs are heavy, rock, fun, etc. when he moves to b, piano sad soft boy music happens.
I loved this video so much. The whole realization that Dema is a LITERAL map of a brain and that whatever comes next is outside our brain (faith/heaven/God)... uh I cried. Basically had an epiphany. So thanks. Keep on doing you
I’m literally the most inattentive person bro, I JUST got what he meant by “promise me this, if I lose to myself, you won’t mourn a day and move on to someone else” like DUH I thought he was saying ‘y’all better not cry over me’ but NO oh my gosh thanks -a fellow brat
Tyler doesn’t seem like the kind of person to want us to mourn him for any extended period of time. That seems backward to the intent of the song. I think he would be more intentional with the lyrics if that were the case as well. “promise me this, if I lose to myself you won’t mourn a day and you move on to someone else” is what it says but I think it would say something along the lines of “promise me this, if I lose to myself you won’t mourn for a day and then move on to someone else” if he was saying please don’t just mourn me for a day and then move on to the next person.
Tyler Vining Its possible, but it makes more sense now (at least to me) that he’d say ‘don’t just mourn for me for a day.’ Along the lines of what Olivia said, it kinda talks about the glorification of ordinary people who will eventually disappoint you. If Tyler were to die, he’d want us to see him as human and not as an entity with power or anything. And like the song goes, ‘I’ll mount for a kid but won’t cry for a king.’ He wants us to see him as a kid with a message rather than a grand savior that he essentially isn’t. If we see him as such, we’d mourn for him like we would for a friend, we wouldn’t forget him. Ya feel?
A lot of people think the idea of Trench goes back to Self Titled. But I believe it was sparked during No Phun Intended. It’s possible. Blurryface has been around since Tyler wrote NPI because if you listen to that album, Goner, which is newly updated in Blurryface, actually originates from I’m a Goner from No Phun Intended. If you listen to the original and the updated version, the lyrics are completely the same.. but at the end of the original you can hear the sounds from the beginning of Heavydirtysoul. Also, Trees has been in three albums- No Phun Intended, Regional at Best, and Vessel. It is tradition for them to perform it at every concert. So obviously it has some sort of significance. If you look at all of the tours set lists, they always end with Trees. This simply could be because it has always been a the bands favorite song to perform, which they mentioned in an interview.. or it could mean something completely different. Another thing which I noticed while listening to HOTY.. “you are surrounding all my surroundings sounding down the mountain range, OF MY LEFT SIDE BRAIN” there’s an abundance of mountains throughout Trench and Dema.. but at the end of the game after the viewer escapes Trench.. it’s solid path leading to northern lights which is one of the most confusing, and stunning natural phenomenons. So maybe they’re trying to escape to their right side brains where they feel they are themselves.
When Olivia said “do the boys physically come to your room and smack something out of your hand” I automatically thought of Tyler Joseph coming into my room and smacking something out of my hand and yelling “NO”
I'm watching this after the whole incident with people getting upset that Tyler didn't respond to the BLM stuff and made a joke about it. What you said nearing the end of video is something that everyone should have been thinking about when that was going on. When we idolize someone we expect them to be perfect and will react violently when they act out of line. This is a really toxic practice and I think Tyler is the perfect example of this. He is very honest about his mental health and has shown that he still struggles with it. When we do this to celebrities we run the risk of pushing them too far because of our unrealistic expectations to never disappoint us. We should let them know when they do something wrong but we shouldn't gang up them and bash them into the ground for what they've done when they've shown to do good and learn from their mistakes in the past.
Brat Mom, I am on the case, the day after this immersive experience came out, I put 6 cork boards on my wall and have started to conspire about lots of things Also the like juice kinda tastes like when you have tea and you sip a sweet spot of sugar
Meg G, I have two leads, but I’m still gathering evidence 1.) Heavydirtysoul might’ve taken place on the island where Trench and Dema is (not much evidence except for the fact Tyler just walks away at the end of Jumpsuit) 2.) Clancy might be Josh due to the fact that Josh is supposed to be the Banditø leader (like Clancy) and in one of the notes, Clancy does talk about seeing Tyler come to the island and that part could be from Jumpsuit That’s all for now, but I am still working on a lot more things :D Edit: might make a channel for this stuff I’m theorizing about idk tho
so, when she was talking about the whole left side brain part, I couldn’t stop thinking about the chorus of holding onto you: “You are surrounding all my surroundings Sounding down the mountain range *Of my left-side brain* You are surrounding all my surroundings Twisting the kaleidoscope Behind both of my eyes.” this could have some significance and factor into the whole trench/dema thing too. it could be COMPLETELY WRONG but this is how I’ve put it together: the you in ‘you are surrounding’ could be the banditos because they were surrounding Tyler in the jumpsuit video. also, the line ‘twisting the kaleidoscope behind both of my eyes’ part could have ties to the whole ‘east is up thing,’ saying that it shifted his thoughts? idk just a thought.
also, wanted to point out that the game gives you the order of the music videos.. so rather than watching it as the way they uploaded it, watch it as nico and the niners, levitate then jumpsuit... that order would make sense as when watching the jumpsuit mv, around 1:43-1:44, there's a really quick flashback of a scene from the natn mv
if the whole dema-trench story is our brain and faith and stuff,, what if the next era, continuing the storyline, is about our heart? like, another map that relates to our heart. maybe there are clues within My Blood? idk. just thought of this while thinking of what the next era could be about
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THIS WAS WORTHY WATCH THIS VIDEO THERE WAS A TIME I PUT THEM SOO MUCH HIGH IN MY HEART, THEY WE'RE LIKE IDOLS TO ME, AND THIS WAS BAD, BECAUSE. I WAS LETTING THEM TOOK THE PLACE OF MY GOD AND MY FAITH WELL, I STOP LISTENING TO THEM, DELETE ALL MY SONGS, AND TOOK A TIME TO PUT THINGS AND THE RIGHT PLACE NOW I LISTEN TO THEM, BUT I'M NOT DROWNED IN THIS ANYMORE, THEY DON'T CONSUME ALL MY TIME (Oh, looks like I'm talking about drugs or something) I THINK THEY TOTALLY UNDERSTAND ME AND HELP ME A LOOOT, AND I TRULY LOVE THEM( and pray for them) BUT THEY'RE NOT GODS AND THEY CAN'T GIVE US EVERYTHING WE NEED I'm grateful tyler is trying to explain his position for us I hope we all leave dema
Idk if anyone else has noticed but I noticed that when you're leaving Trench near the end, if you look over to your right hand side you can see the figures of the bishops running along, as if they are trying to chase you down.
The way you interpreted the bridge of Neon Gravestones. Is completely opposite of mine. I thought Tyler doesn’t want us to mourn for him because he doesn’t want to pull the fans down if he kills himself. So what does Tyler actually want from us now, I’m so confused.
YESSSS THANK YOU FOR SAYING ALL OF THIS! Thank God we have you 'cause I've been trying to tell people but I'm horrible at explaining and also no one listens.
My mind has been burned by a lot of searching... Sometimes I don't read for school to find information, that is finally wrong because I find everything new. I give up. Tyler simply tells us the story u have written and leave us with the secret/cryptic things. I am tired😔
also fun little thing on the interactive experience thing, when you’re leaving trench and the petals start falling, you look back to see the banditos watching you
I can't remember if you mentioned it or not but if you click the banditos while you're in the car, they'll turn to the Nico and the niners (camouflage?)pattern, It's just something I thought was worth mentioning.
that theory about the statue and the fans is actually really eye opening and from my interpretation it could also be like they wanna be our friends and they want us to understand that they DO make mistakes and don’t want to be looked down upon bc we shouldn’t idolize them idk if that makes any fathomable sense but hope you understand
It’s fuckin crazy that this was created. Like when I became a fan I truly didn’t know how this was, and now that I’m farther into it, I just find it crazy how Tyler does this.
also when you were talking about the whole left and right brain idea, it made me think of holding on to you with the whole “you are surrounding all my surroundings sounding down the mountain range of my left-side brain” so i don’t know how it plays into it or if it does at all but found it interesting
And I want to add to what you said about trench being out brain and how the information goes through it and we're trying to get through it and the place we're trying to get yo is outside of our brain (I cant put things into words but ya know what I mean) in the album and all of tøp music we're trying to figure out if God is real (Tyler doupts alot), what happens after death and what's our purpose... what those things are outside of what is possible for our, we can never know (in our living life) what happens after death, we cant really know if God is real we just decide weather to believe or not. What I'm saying is: we don't know where we're heading because we dont know these places because we dont know the answers to those questions (idk im so bad at explaining)
@@OliviaKathryn It's great to have people like you in the clique, I've been looking on dmaorg.info on Neon Gravestones picture with Bishops in the middle. The neons are divided into 4 parts. Three parts have 27 lights, but the one up-right has just 24. But I don't have any connections, I'm too much of a simpleton to solve the entire Trench universe and mysteries.
So, I was watching one of their interviews and Tyler said that he treated the idea of Trench and it’s whole concept as a map of his brain. He was talking about how he used different areas of the brain to show where he should be heading and leaving in his mind (escaping dema).... so, yeah, your video was spot on and I loved it!
Into the eyes to the back of the brain, then reflected out into the world with another perspective... Like going through the mirrors in the bandito interactive experience, perhaps?
I've been a TØP fan for about 2 years now and In ur Nicholas video u said that u think that Tyler has all this planned out for like nine years. So I think ur right. I went back through and listened to all the blurryface album and listen to all the songs and I kinda put something together. I think all the songs in trench and blurryface make a story. I don't know the order of the songs but I would assume that the blurryface songs come before the trench songs. It was kinda hard to figure out what some of the songs mean because it's hard to tell who is talking in the songs. Like in the song Not Today it's hard to tell if it's Tyler is saying that Nico or blurryface is trying to get to him and take him or if he is talking to Clancy saying it's not possible for him and the banditos to take him from dema. Assuming he is the only one left from the Clancy notes and Tyler being the only one left in the prison in Heathens. So I tried my best to put a little story together. I was wondering if u could make a video analyzing all the blurryface and trench songs telling us what they mean and the order of the story. This is probably really confusing and I'm sorry for that . I know this has nothing to do with this video but it's ur most recent one so I thought u might see it. I know this is long but I would be really great ful if u took the time to make a video on this theory I have. I love ur videos keep up the good work.
Great video!! When you were talking about how the map had writing only on one side it made me think of the lyric "nice to know my kind will be on my side" from the hype and i think it really supports your theory of it being the creative side and how thats where they thrive and are kind of comfortable. It also connects with fire symbolizing true passion because it takes that to create something. Its also them acknowledging how creative the clique is. Like how you said that side holds creativity. I dont think there is any other fanbase with as much art that the clique makes. Not just physical drawings, but songs, confetti items, birthday videos, etc.. i just think that's super cool
Maybe the ‘stream’ is the island Tyler sings about in Pet Cheetah?? I thought this because on the booklet that came with the CD, for the lyrics of Pet Cheetah there’s what appears to be mountains and land(??) or whatever is shown on the screen
When you're surrounded by the Banditos you can click on their shirts and they turn from black to the camo but I didn't find any significance in changing all the shirts.
When you were talking about the ‘left brain’ and ‘right brain’ it triggered something in my memory and I started thinking of hoty when Tyler sings about the ‘mountain range’ of his ‘left side brain’. Maybe the part of the experience where the mirror first come in to play (where there’s mountains in the background) is a link to that (or maybe I’m just pushing this and trying to find a link when there isn’t one)
I think the “promise me this, if I lose to myself, you won’t mourn a day, and you’ll move on to someone else” part is Tyler telling us that if he loses to himself (his mental illness/suicidal thoughts) that we shouldn’t glorify him or mourn for him at all and we should just move on and find someone else to inspire us. He really emphasizes how bad the culture of idolizing people (especially after they’ve died young) is and he doesn’t want us to glorify dying young.
"What you can take from this video is that Dema is our brain, and everyone is stupid." V GOOD POINTS also the like button tastes like coconut coconut sharks in the water
This bandito tour thing on spotify looks really neat! I thought it was gonna be kinda meh, but it apparently had a lot more detail then I thought. Also, thinking about the left brain/right brain thing, I've always been confused why they focus on the left side of the brain in "Holding on to You"? I suppose it's to uphold introspection and like thinking about beyond the physical/faith? Anyway I'm soooooo glad you brought up the Nico and the Niners meaning of avoiding idols, it's something I've been hoping it would be talk about more during reviews of Trench and stuff.
Sooooo the Banditø camp is on the right and the right side of the brain is for all the emotional stuff and things like that....so basically we were the Banditøs in the last era too 'the few, the proud and the emotional'
This is an amazing video!! Oh my gosh! I’m so glad I stumbled upon it! Thank you! Also, I loved when you say may-haps like a mashup of perhaps and maybe 😂
i think you're right about the whole true east thing, because if you reverse the into to nico and the niners josh says this: “We denounce Vialism, we will leave Dema and head true east, we are the Banditos.” denounce meaning "publicly declaring to be wrong or evil" and VIALism probably meaning to hide or contain your emotions, feelings, or thoughts and in nico and the niners tyler sings about east being up and the way out of trench appears to be up
So um 2:42 those are lyrics to morph, not chlorine... am I just missing something?
no, I'm just dumb
She goofed lol
@@OliviaKathryn not dumb just probably listen to music so much the lyrics all blend together lol.
The lyric for chlorine is “ had you in my coat pocket where I keep my rebel red” so they’re lyrics in chlorine you’re not dumb
Rani Belcher I meant the “above is blind belief, under is sword to sleeve....”
Tyler NEEDS to write a book about Dema!!!!!
Like if you would buy it
Abbey9384 I WOULD BUY THREE ONE TO READ ONE TO THEORY WITH AND ONE TO JUST HAVE
Also a movie or miniseries would be awesome imo
Even better a movie
If only I could buy cuz I don't have enough money 😢
Nah it would take away from the experience imo
I'm not sleeping on it, I'm just stupid and waiting for someone like you to explain it to me instead of failing at being cryptic. Thanks by the way
honestly me
Can I just say left side brain ties into migraine... “you are surrounding, all my surroundings sounding down the mountain range, of my left side brain” maybe he took this concept back all the way to vessel or he just found a way to tie it in, but could he be talking about the bishops? I mean, if you think about it we mostly see the banditos at the top of a cliff and trench could be inbetween two mountain ranges, this also kinda explains the mountain range we head to in the part with the ocean. Also the shadows we can see following us, “shadows will scream that I’m alone” which could be the bishops trying to make him think he’s the only one going through this which can make fighting through depression very very difficult. This also kinda ties into the other chorus (which repeats the lyric of the shadows screaming he’s alone, and it makes sense he issues screaming because they would need to make themselves louder than everybody trying to help him know he’s not alone) “am I the only one I know, waging my wars behind my face and above my throat” if the shadows (or what we can assume are the bishops) make him feel like he’s alone in this, it would make sense that he’s wondering if he’s the only one with these issues. “My mind ship wrecked this is the only land my mind could find” he’s said he created dema, and we all know this, but have any of us thought about the fact he might have tried to make a better world but he just couldn’t, Dema just kept flooding his mind so it would be the only land he could find. Also “full of tidal waves, suicidal crazed lions” tidal waves also ties back to the part on the ocean, and in cut my lip he says he’s a lion. “And I will say that we should take a day to break away from all the pain our brain has made” This connects the the hiatus, he needed a break from all the stress and everything that comes with constant touring and shows. “The game is not played alone”... They called this a game, and we definitely didn’t play it alone, millions of us played it together, we were definitely not alone. Also ending on “we made it this far, we made it this-“ this indicates there’s still more we must go through to get to where we need to be, this is also the end of the song, and as you said, at the end the banditos aren’t with us, so we have to go through this part alone, we’re far, but we’re not done yet... I could just be making something out of nothing but I believe Dema does back a lot farther than most people realize
go off ethan !! this is beautiful
first part is from holding on to you, not migraine, but this is cool!
that's holding on to you my dude
SKSKSKSKS I M GLAD SOMEONE ELSE COMMENTED THIS BUT ACTUALLY MADE IT MAKE SENSE CKDKDKD
Thanks for continuing with my idea but yeah that first lyrics are from holding onto you. Other than that I agree for the most part, but I don’t know because I really feel that Tyler is singing to god when he screams “And I’ll be holding onto you”
Wonder if these lyrics tie in at all “You are surrounding all my surroundings
Sounding down the mountain range
Of my left-side brain
You are surrounding all my surroundings
Twisting the kaleidoscope
Behind both of my eyes”
Oh my
Hollly shit,
this bean was messing with us since the beginning and we saw nothing coming
i'm happy that there's some smart clikkies if everyone was like me we would've never figured out a shit lmao
"smart" or "too much time to waste"
moooood
This is the third time I've seen you
@@juni5628 hi lol
Same
that desert/ocean could be an addict with a pen reference?
true. and we all can tell hes still addicted
My theory: I think something else to notice is maybe when Tyler sings he’s a bandito but his fans are also banditos (tos, toes idk) it tells us that yeah he may be a celebrity but he’s still human and just as “normal” as all of us. Idk I think what I’m saying goes along with your statement of not idolizing the boys. Lemme elaborate more- if we, the clique, are banditos, and Tyler says “I’m a bandito” he’s telling us just because he’s famous does not mean he is more valuable than any other human. We all matter the same amount.
Agreed
That makes a lot of sense
This ties into "we are twenty one pilots and so are you" like it would not be possible for them to be where they are without their supporters which makes them part of the band and also like you said they are just human like us
Lia Grace ah exactly! Also the infamous “we did it” line
Well, also, if you go to a show ( if you are able to, obviously) or if you’ve ever seen a video of a show, they make it to where it is fully fuckin inclusive. Like hey NEVER STOP. Even down to the sage design, the stage almost looks blended into the crowd, and they’re always in the pit or the stands. It truly makes it personal and It’s crazy that They do that, it’s almost like a metaphor in itself
OML IT IS TYLERS BRAIN
all of this is tylers imagination
The shadows in the chapel are the niners. When you don't let the light turn red, their shadows become red.
The shadows in the other parts of the game are banditos running besides you.
Exactly!!!
How do you stop the light from turning red?
@@matchajoon Just keep on taping on the tubelight like things that are behind the monument of exhaltation
i seriously love the idea of the map symbolizing a brain cause basically is dema about mental illness, right? and these just happen inside the brain, and literally, having mental illnesses sometimes feel like being trapped in ones own head. i also love the aspect about the right hemisphere of the brain being responsible for creativity and emotions and that the banditos are on the right sight of the map as well. So in conclusion: Tyler and Josh are frickin geniuses and deserve all the admiration they can get for building this whole world for us.
You easily became my favorite youtuber.
Same shes so awesome
seriously
i see tøp i clique
skye renee very clever word play
Nice
You got my like girl. You summed up what I've been thinking about the statue, the tendency to idolize those we love and the brain/map and used way less words. Looking forward to further explanations from you!
Ok when she said that they didn’t save us we saved ourselves really hit my soul. Like I had to get up for a second and just think
3:14 The red only being present when you aren't clicking really makes me think of "Idol hands are the devil's plaything".
ooh that's good! Like how there are many of their songs saying that it's important to stay awake
*idle, but you could still be onto something
BANDITO IS SO IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHY IT'S MY TWITTER HANDLE
same. actually mine is "bandiitoo" because apparently I wasn't the only one with that idea 😂
Thought: the bridge represents Trench. When he moves from a stage to b stage, the songs change drastically. In a, the songs are heavy, rock, fun, etc. when he moves to b, piano sad soft boy music happens.
The brain refrence reminds me of holding onto you.
"You are surrounding all my surroundings sounding down the mountain range of my left side brain."
I loved this video so much. The whole realization that Dema is a LITERAL map of a brain and that whatever comes next is outside our brain (faith/heaven/God)... uh I cried. Basically had an epiphany. So thanks. Keep on doing you
13:28 reminded me of "and you know youre a terrible sight, but youll be just fine, just dont believe the hype"
or like the hype of vanity, name brands, selling yourself basically
I’m literally the most inattentive person bro, I JUST got what he meant by “promise me this, if I lose to myself, you won’t mourn a day and move on to someone else” like DUH I thought he was saying ‘y’all better not cry over me’ but NO oh my gosh thanks
-a fellow brat
Jessica Barrientos it’s okay me too
Uhhh that’s not what it means? Wtf does it mean
Tyler doesn’t seem like the kind of person to want us to mourn him for any extended period of time. That seems backward to the intent of the song. I think he would be more intentional with the lyrics if that were the case as well. “promise me this, if I lose to myself you won’t mourn a day and you move on to someone else” is what it says but I think it would say something along the lines of “promise me this, if I lose to myself you won’t mourn for a day and then move on to someone else” if he was saying please don’t just mourn me for a day and then move on to the next person.
Tyler Vining Its possible, but it makes more sense now (at least to me) that he’d say ‘don’t just mourn for me for a day.’ Along the lines of what Olivia said, it kinda talks about the glorification of ordinary people who will eventually disappoint you. If Tyler were to die, he’d want us to see him as human and not as an entity with power or anything. And like the song goes, ‘I’ll mount for a kid but won’t cry for a king.’ He wants us to see him as a kid with a message rather than a grand savior that he essentially isn’t. If we see him as such, we’d mourn for him like we would for a friend, we wouldn’t forget him. Ya feel?
“don’t have idols”
surprise sweetie, ty and josh are my everything.
A lot of people think the idea of Trench goes back to Self Titled. But I believe it was sparked during No Phun Intended. It’s possible. Blurryface has been around since Tyler wrote NPI because if you listen to that album, Goner, which is newly updated in Blurryface, actually originates from I’m a Goner from No Phun Intended. If you listen to the original and the updated version, the lyrics are completely the same.. but at the end of the original you can hear the sounds from the beginning of Heavydirtysoul. Also, Trees has been in three albums- No Phun Intended, Regional at Best, and Vessel. It is tradition for them to perform it at every concert. So obviously it has some sort of significance. If you look at all of the tours set lists, they always end with Trees. This simply could be because it has always been a the bands favorite song to perform, which they mentioned in an interview.. or it could mean something completely different. Another thing which I noticed while listening to HOTY.. “you are surrounding all my surroundings sounding down the mountain range, OF MY LEFT SIDE BRAIN” there’s an abundance of mountains throughout Trench and Dema.. but at the end of the game after the viewer escapes Trench.. it’s solid path leading to northern lights which is one of the most confusing, and stunning natural phenomenons. So maybe they’re trying to escape to their right side brains where they feel they are themselves.
15:30 I’m so happy you made this point!!!!!!!
When Olivia said “do the boys physically come to your room and smack something out of your hand” I automatically thought of Tyler Joseph coming into my room and smacking something out of my hand and yelling “NO”
I'm watching this after the whole incident with people getting upset that Tyler didn't respond to the BLM stuff and made a joke about it. What you said nearing the end of video is something that everyone should have been thinking about when that was going on. When we idolize someone we expect them to be perfect and will react violently when they act out of line. This is a really toxic practice and I think Tyler is the perfect example of this. He is very honest about his mental health and has shown that he still struggles with it. When we do this to celebrities we run the risk of pushing them too far because of our unrealistic expectations to never disappoint us. We should let them know when they do something wrong but we shouldn't gang up them and bash them into the ground for what they've done when they've shown to do good and learn from their mistakes in the past.
Brat Mom, I am on the case, the day after this immersive experience came out, I put 6 cork boards on my wall and have started to conspire about lots of things
Also the like juice kinda tastes like when you have tea and you sip a sweet spot of sugar
Duketheduck OAO wait i am so interested in your investigation map, have you figure anything else out?
Meg G, I have two leads, but I’m still gathering evidence
1.) Heavydirtysoul might’ve taken place on the island where Trench and Dema is (not much evidence except for the fact Tyler just walks away at the end of Jumpsuit)
2.) Clancy might be Josh due to the fact that Josh is supposed to be the Banditø leader (like Clancy) and in one of the notes, Clancy does talk about seeing Tyler come to the island and that part could be from Jumpsuit
That’s all for now, but I am still working on a lot more things :D
Edit: might make a channel for this stuff I’m theorizing about idk tho
"Sounding down the mountain range, of my left side brain"
(-Holding on to you, Twenty Øne Piløts (vessel))
Every TØP fan needs to watch this video, it's brilliant.
"Sounding down the mountain range of my left-side brain" - Holding on to you lyrics
so, when she was talking about the whole left side brain part, I couldn’t stop thinking about the chorus of holding onto you: “You are surrounding all my surroundings
Sounding down the mountain range
*Of my left-side brain*
You are surrounding all my surroundings
Twisting the kaleidoscope
Behind both of my eyes.”
this could have some significance and factor into the whole trench/dema thing too. it could be COMPLETELY WRONG but this is how I’ve put it together:
the you in ‘you are surrounding’ could be the banditos because they were surrounding Tyler in the jumpsuit video. also, the line ‘twisting the kaleidoscope behind both of my eyes’ part could have ties to the whole ‘east is up thing,’ saying that it shifted his thoughts? idk just a thought.
17:35 well shoot. There goes my plans to try to figure out a joke for the next hour
How the hell did Tyler create all this... it just sooo crazy that it make my brain hurt think about it... he’s a genius
also, wanted to point out that the game gives you the order of the music videos.. so rather than watching it as the way they uploaded it, watch it as nico and the niners, levitate then jumpsuit...
that order would make sense as when watching the jumpsuit mv, around 1:43-1:44, there's a really quick flashback of a scene from the natn mv
The left side brain lyric from HOTY is about using your rational and logical side to try to understand faith
Gotta love the good ol' whiteboard.
Lizzie Collins For real tho
I don't know why but this story of trench/dema/blurryface is kinda creepy you know it's like a movie. But I love it so much
I LOVE this video. (A non idolizing kind of love)
11:39 I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO SAID THAT
it's a very common phrase though
Could you make an entire explanation basically the entirety of TØP? But all in one video?
asking for a friend
noone is here for science
that would literally be a movie
WHAT ARE YOU DOIN' GURL?! i have goosebumps. why.
if the whole dema-trench story is our brain and faith and stuff,, what if the next era, continuing the storyline, is about our heart? like, another map that relates to our heart. maybe there are clues within My Blood? idk. just thought of this while thinking of what the next era could be about
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THIS
WAS WORTHY WATCH THIS VIDEO
THERE WAS A TIME I PUT THEM SOO MUCH HIGH IN MY HEART, THEY WE'RE LIKE IDOLS TO ME, AND THIS WAS BAD, BECAUSE. I WAS LETTING THEM TOOK THE PLACE OF MY GOD AND MY FAITH
WELL, I STOP LISTENING TO THEM, DELETE ALL MY SONGS, AND TOOK A TIME TO PUT THINGS AND THE RIGHT PLACE
NOW I LISTEN TO THEM, BUT I'M NOT DROWNED IN THIS ANYMORE, THEY DON'T CONSUME ALL MY TIME
(Oh, looks like I'm talking about drugs or something)
I THINK THEY TOTALLY UNDERSTAND ME AND HELP ME A LOOOT, AND I TRULY LOVE THEM( and pray for them)
BUT THEY'RE NOT GODS AND THEY CAN'T GIVE US EVERYTHING WE NEED
I'm grateful tyler is trying to explain his position for us
I hope we all leave dema
I think you’re really on the right track with the “idols”thing! Good stuff Olivia :)
This changes my view on this whole thing and it is so sick.
*"I've been here the whole time, you were asleep time to wake up"*
“We are Twenty One Pilots and so are you” makes a whole lot more sense now
Tastes like there album, straight...
Fire 🔥
ZeCash Gaming
Straight chlorine
the like juice tastes like clor-..... OXI-CLEAN.
Idk if anyone else has noticed but I noticed that when you're leaving Trench near the end, if you look over to your right hand side you can see the figures of the bishops running along, as if they are trying to chase you down.
The way you interpreted the bridge of Neon Gravestones. Is completely opposite of mine. I thought Tyler doesn’t want us to mourn for him because he doesn’t want to pull the fans down if he kills himself.
So what does Tyler actually want from us now, I’m so confused.
YESSSS THANK YOU FOR SAYING ALL OF THIS! Thank God we have you 'cause I've been trying to tell people but I'm horrible at explaining and also no one listens.
My mind has been burned by a lot of searching... Sometimes I don't read for school to find information, that is finally wrong because I find everything new. I give up. Tyler simply tells us the story u have written and leave us with the secret/cryptic things. I am tired😔
we're writing a story/essay thing about our idols you know imma write about how people shouldn't idolize other people also hi im in georgia too
I AM CRYING THIS IS SO GOOD. YOUR POINT AT THE END UGH. TYLER'S MIND IS ON SOME NEXT LEVEL SHIT. THANK YOU.
"My son" exactly how I feel sometimes
also fun little thing on the interactive experience thing, when you’re leaving trench and the petals start falling, you look back to see the banditos watching you
"I dont fricken- Tyler Joseph"
Has anyone noticed that the way Josh stretches before Morph (Josh Dun) is the way the statue looks like? He's been doing that forever tho so idk
I can't remember if you mentioned it or not but if you click the banditos while you're in the car, they'll turn to the Nico and the niners (camouflage?)pattern,
It's just something I thought was worth mentioning.
that theory about the statue and the fans is actually really eye opening and from my interpretation it could also be like they wanna be our friends and they want us to understand that they DO make mistakes and don’t want to be looked down upon bc we shouldn’t idolize them idk if that makes any fathomable sense but hope you understand
Omg I saw the title and was like I love the game.
It’s fuckin crazy that this was created. Like when I became a fan I truly didn’t know how this was, and now that I’m farther into it, I just find it crazy how Tyler does this.
Anybody else see the cat? It was really subtle...you probably missed it
also when you were talking about the whole left and right brain idea, it made me think of holding on to you with the whole “you are surrounding all my surroundings sounding down the mountain range
of my left-side brain” so i don’t know how it plays into it or if it does at all but found it interesting
And I want to add to what you said about trench being out brain and how the information goes through it and we're trying to get through it and the place we're trying to get yo is outside of our brain (I cant put things into words but ya know what I mean) in the album and all of tøp music we're trying to figure out if God is real (Tyler doupts alot), what happens after death and what's our purpose... what those things are outside of what is possible for our, we can never know (in our living life) what happens after death, we cant really know if God is real we just decide weather to believe or not. What I'm saying is: we don't know where we're heading because we dont know these places because we dont know the answers to those questions (idk im so bad at explaining)
They have already disappointed me because....
*CHLORINE IS NOT ON THE SETLIST WTF BOI*
When you don't have spotify and didn't know this existed
the desert thing at 6:30 reminds me a lot of of the visuals that are described in addict with a pen for some reason
That is the best point in a video ever. “The Bandito world is our brain and everyone’s dumb.”
At this point ur prolly my favorite youtuber
this is actually one of my favorite channels
You know what? She's a really good theorist
Jakub Švitorka you know what? thanks
@@OliviaKathryn It's great to have people like you in the clique, I've been looking on dmaorg.info on Neon Gravestones picture with Bishops in the middle. The neons are divided into 4 parts. Three parts have 27 lights, but the one up-right has just 24.
But I don't have any connections, I'm too much of a simpleton to solve the entire Trench universe and mysteries.
"This is my video, I'll say what I want." GO GIRL! Loved this video and the points you made!
14:29 Amen sister!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🤣
I WAS LITERALLY ABOUT TO WRITE THAT IT TASTES LIKE CHLORINE, GOD DAMN I'M BASIC
I left a minecraft video for this
i've never felt so much pressure until now
So, I was watching one of their interviews and Tyler said that he treated the idea of Trench and it’s whole concept as a map of his brain. He was talking about how he used different areas of the brain to show where he should be heading and leaving in his mind (escaping dema).... so, yeah, your video was spot on and I loved it!
Into the eyes to the back of the brain, then reflected out into the world with another perspective... Like going through the mirrors in the bandito interactive experience, perhaps?
I've been a TØP fan for about 2 years now and In ur Nicholas video u said that u think that Tyler has all this planned out for like nine years. So I think ur right. I went back through and listened to all the blurryface album and listen to all the songs and I kinda put something together. I think all the songs in trench and blurryface make a story. I don't know the order of the songs but I would assume that the blurryface songs come before the trench songs. It was kinda hard to figure out what some of the songs mean because it's hard to tell who is talking in the songs. Like in the song Not Today it's hard to tell if it's Tyler is saying that Nico or blurryface is trying to get to him and take him or if he is talking to Clancy saying it's not possible for him and the banditos to take him from dema. Assuming he is the only one left from the Clancy notes and Tyler being the only one left in the prison in Heathens. So I tried my best to put a little story together. I was wondering if u could make a video analyzing all the blurryface and trench songs telling us what they mean and the order of the story. This is probably really confusing and I'm sorry for that . I know this has nothing to do with this video but it's ur most recent one so I thought u might see it. I know this is long but I would be really great ful if u took the time to make a video on this theory I have. I love ur videos keep up the good work.
Great video!! When you were talking about how the map had writing only on one side it made me think of the lyric "nice to know my kind will be on my side" from the hype and i think it really supports your theory of it being the creative side and how thats where they thrive and are kind of comfortable. It also connects with fire symbolizing true passion because it takes that to create something. Its also them acknowledging how creative the clique is. Like how you said that side holds creativity. I dont think there is any other fanbase with as much art that the clique makes. Not just physical drawings, but songs, confetti items, birthday videos, etc.. i just think that's super cool
Maybe the ‘stream’ is the island Tyler sings about in Pet Cheetah?? I thought this because on the booklet that came with the CD, for the lyrics of Pet Cheetah there’s what appears to be mountains and land(??) or whatever is shown on the screen
When you're surrounded by the Banditos you can click on their shirts and they turn from black to the camo but I didn't find any significance in changing all the shirts.
When you were talking about the ‘left brain’ and ‘right brain’ it triggered something in my memory and I started thinking of hoty when Tyler sings about the ‘mountain range’ of his ‘left side brain’. Maybe the part of the experience where the mirror first come in to play (where there’s mountains in the background) is a link to that (or maybe I’m just pushing this and trying to find a link when there isn’t one)
15:30 thank you for saying that. This is very important
I imagine literally anyone else watching this and being so confused about what you're talking about. I love the clique
I want to play it, but it crashed my phone and computer... 😁
I think the “promise me this, if I lose to myself, you won’t mourn a day, and you’ll move on to someone else” part is Tyler telling us that if he loses to himself (his mental illness/suicidal thoughts) that we shouldn’t glorify him or mourn for him at all and we should just move on and find someone else to inspire us. He really emphasizes how bad the culture of idolizing people (especially after they’ve died young) is and he doesn’t want us to glorify dying young.
But I also agree with the part about how they don’t want us to idolize them or call them gods
EVERYONE WAKE UP AND LETS SOLVE THIS MYSTERY!!! Mystery Gang on the case!
YESSSS WE NEED TO FIGURE THINGS OUT!! STOP SLEEPIG!!
"What you can take from this video is that Dema is our brain, and everyone is stupid."
V GOOD POINTS
also the like button tastes like coconut coconut sharks in the water
Mate thank god someone talked about this
10:41 you are surrounding all my surroundings, sounding down the mountain range of my left-side brain... woah
Y’all also in the banditos camp when you click the men they turn from black and yellow to camo
This bandito tour thing on spotify looks really neat! I thought it was gonna be kinda meh, but it apparently had a lot more detail then I thought. Also, thinking about the left brain/right brain thing, I've always been confused why they focus on the left side of the brain in "Holding on to You"? I suppose it's to uphold introspection and like thinking about beyond the physical/faith? Anyway I'm soooooo glad you brought up the Nico and the Niners meaning of avoiding idols, it's something I've been hoping it would be talk about more during reviews of Trench and stuff.
These guys most definitely helped me help myself through the DaRkEsT tImEs of my entire life,( so far). They have been a light in the dark. 💛❣️💛
Sooooo the Banditø camp is on the right and the right side of the brain is for all the emotional stuff and things like that....so basically we were the Banditøs in the last era too 'the few, the proud and the emotional'
This is an amazing video!! Oh my gosh! I’m so glad I stumbled upon it! Thank you!
Also, I loved when you say may-haps like a mashup of perhaps and maybe 😂
i think you're right about the whole true east thing, because if you reverse the into to nico and the niners josh says this:
“We denounce Vialism, we will leave Dema and head true east, we are the Banditos.”
denounce meaning "publicly declaring to be wrong or evil"
and VIALism probably meaning to hide or contain your emotions, feelings, or thoughts
and in nico and the niners tyler sings about east being up and the way out of trench appears to be up
Better start blowing up them 10000 balloons