So.....the recycling of coloured chips to make speckled and mixed colour records is cheaper, yet we the consumer pay vast amounts more for a "limited edition"! Kate Bush Hounds of Love is one that springs to mind.
It's funny how plastics companies say "it's cheaper to use recycled materials" when it's pre-consumer. When it's part of the process to grind scrap, it's one thing. But when it piles up and you have to pay someone to grind the scrap, then the process becomes more expensive. Ideally, if you're reusing in-house production, then you know the limits of the compound you're using. When you buy recycled product, then you're taking a chance at what you're using being usable for your purposes, and that generates a lot of scrap as well. The trial and error process means less widgets produced but the cost of production remains the same, and therefore increases the price of widgets to recover the loss. Custom virgin compounded plastic is ideal, the same in house reground compound is acceptable, but foreign reground compound is iffy.
It is true that the black added to vinyl, which is naturally clear, does help with reducing wear and gives it it's durable quality, on any well setup turntable wear is negligible regardless of color. Clear colors technically should sound the best, with a pure clear being the ultimate.
I just recently started collecting my favorite albums in record form. I love music its something I grew up with. My mom used to have me on one hip while making lunch or dinner and we would always listen to records she had since she was a teen. So now that I turned 20 the first thing I did was buy a record player and started my own collection like she did. And even if I cant notice the sound difference since I dont have the best ear just the nostalgia and the fact I can hold the record and watch it spin while I listen to it makes it worth it.
The LABEL doesn't keep the record centered, most of the time if I vinyl LP is cut off center it's from the stamper being offset. The label is there to melt into the vinyl and tell you the sides/track list etc
Wow, absolutely awesome. I haven't seen anything of these colourful vinyl records made this before... What a masterpiece of those vinyls company it is! 😎✌️
Record collectors are often difficult to listen to music with. They are rarely interested in what you bring into the group, they are usually only interested in themselves and in their own stack of albums for the evening. Aways there will be exceptions, of course.
Motown was by far the greatest record company in America. If you likened the American record industry to a New York skyscraper, Motown would be in the penthouse, all the other companies, RCA, Warner, Capitol. etc., would be in the basement... Stax? They'd be at one floor below the penthouse. Any overseas organisation, like EMI, should feel extremely privileged to hold the distribution and back-catalogue right to Motown for their market.
adding colors to the vinyl means it wears quicker (its not as hardwearing) and as i understand it there is said to be a slight loss in fidelity /quality in the sound
The fumes given of by hot vinyl is a endocrine disruptor which is either known as Phthalates and is known dop or dinop sorry about that but maybe this should be produced in a factory staffed by robots.
Is the glow in the dark vinyl the only 'color' variation that sounds horrible? It's nice to have all of these different colors but if it doesn't sound very good then it wouldn't be worthwhile....
TheDutchOwner's Tech Channel - Part of TheDutchOwner's Technology Empire exactly ! Decca used polystyrene in the mid and late 50s, not as durable as vinyl, but new pressings sound fine, but had to be very carefully taken care of. Not to mention most of the Harmony LP pressings of the 50's which used a similar material but not as good.
Please learn how to make an edible record. Does anyone else think that the pucks look like taffy? If you haven't guessed I'm really fat - ignore my user thumbnail - I don't know that guy.
i think he was referring more to the glow in the dark vinyl but then again i dont really consider my self an "audiophile" so maybe thats why i cant hear the difference.
Hi Jack this is Sarath Kotelawela from Sri Lanka and I am a music producer in SL can you please forward me the details of the owner of the record company Third Man records and how I can contact them.
Yeah it's something called a master copy, it's made out of metal and it's two does that squeeze the soft plastic vinyl, instead of scratching it out it presses it
No, every record is made from the same stamp. Every vinyl record is actually exactly the same, most people just don’t notice. It’s a good business model.
search "Gotta Groove Records - The Artist's Preferred Record Pressing Plant" on TH-cam. it's 14 minutes long and talks about the plant itself but there's a bit on colored vinyl as well as a demonstration.
BryanChuckBrennan some coloured vinyls can actually sound better. for example the brand new reissue of Porcupine Tree's Fear of a Blank Planet is in translucent clear blue and sounds much better than the original black vinyl which was notoriously riddled with errors.
assurdo pensare a quello che ci mette la macchina a farlo con quello che te lo fanno pagare alla fine troppo cari con un master fanno centinaia e centinaia di copie
Why bother vinyl , Cost too much, I remember walking into tower records 86 87 ,records were gone ,, I hated Cd's , It was stupid trying too except Cds, lame change in mental and enviromentally derange The worst was hearing a tape my friend recorded (whitesnake) I cant believe weird al was downtown ) The all star butt rock band clowns recorded from record player he told me (dialed )in with a new needle syringe Beatles compares ( the 80s lied how great Cd quality was fake thatwithin ye ought peon
Snap, crackle and pop - yes you guessed it, united record pressing plant!
So.....the recycling of coloured chips to make speckled and mixed colour records is cheaper, yet we the consumer pay vast amounts more for a "limited edition"! Kate Bush Hounds of Love is one that springs to mind.
Those colored variants are normally not recycled like he said, because they are all one color usually, instead of random
Well anyone who buys a Kate Bush album kinda deserves to get bent by the price 🤣
It's funny how plastics companies say "it's cheaper to use recycled materials" when it's pre-consumer. When it's part of the process to grind scrap, it's one thing. But when it piles up and you have to pay someone to grind the scrap, then the process becomes more expensive.
Ideally, if you're reusing in-house production, then you know the limits of the compound you're using. When you buy recycled product, then you're taking a chance at what you're using being usable for your purposes, and that generates a lot of scrap as well. The trial and error process means less widgets produced but the cost of production remains the same, and therefore increases the price of widgets to recover the loss.
Custom virgin compounded plastic is ideal, the same in house reground compound is acceptable, but foreign reground compound is iffy.
It is true that the black added to vinyl, which is naturally clear, does help with reducing wear and gives it it's durable quality, on any well setup turntable wear is negligible regardless of color. Clear colors technically should sound the best, with a pure clear being the ultimate.
Thanks for helping keep vinyl alive Third Man!
I just recently started collecting my favorite albums in record form. I love music its something I grew up with. My mom used to have me on one hip while making lunch or dinner and we would always listen to records she had since she was a teen. So now that I turned 20 the first thing I did was buy a record player and started my own collection like she did. And even if I cant notice the sound difference since I dont have the best ear just the nostalgia and the fact I can hold the record and watch it spin while I listen to it makes it worth it.
The LABEL doesn't keep the record centered, most of the time if I vinyl LP is cut off center it's from the stamper being offset. The label is there to melt into the vinyl and tell you the sides/track list etc
United needs to up their quality... they should be on par with Pallas or RTI.
+Thurston Pilgrim absolutely!
Third Man Pressing opened in Detroit. All new equipment.
Wow, absolutely awesome. I haven't seen anything of these colourful vinyl records made this before... What a masterpiece of those vinyls company it is! 😎✌️
Right on! Informative and cool, and I totally agree with his comments at 7:00 about the shared group experience of listening to vinyl. THANK YOU!
I like vinyl records so MUCH !!!!
That last little bit of talking... wish I had people who were interested in music with whom I could listen to my records.
Jay Hard I know that feel.
Record collectors are often difficult to listen to music with. They are rarely interested in what you bring into the group, they are usually only interested in themselves and in their own stack of albums for the evening. Aways there will be exceptions, of course.
If you keep sticking your hands into the moving machines you're gonna wind up being called "eight fingers." Sheesh.
I was thinking the same thing! I sure there was at least one person even at the factory that day that had lost a digit to one of those things, too
Motown was by far the greatest record company in America. If you likened the American record industry to a New York skyscraper, Motown would be in the penthouse, all the other companies, RCA, Warner, Capitol. etc., would be in the basement... Stax? They'd be at one floor below the penthouse. Any overseas organisation, like EMI, should feel extremely privileged to hold the distribution and back-catalogue right to Motown for their market.
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thank you
great story
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If the walls of this place could talk the tale they could tell.What a cool historical palace.
rockin roy limited edition 45 guitar solo and song.......sounds fantastic.....great video.
Thanks for training me, Ben. So when do I start? I enjoyed the point about people having shared experiences in isolation thru technology.
I love vinyl! I’ve always wondered how a record was manufactured… 🤔
Penny & the Quarters! Great record!
Wow this is really awesome!
Love it!
adding colors to the vinyl means it wears quicker (its not as hardwearing) and as i understand it there is said to be a slight loss in fidelity /quality in the sound
The fumes given of by hot vinyl is a endocrine disruptor which is either known as Phthalates and is known dop or dinop sorry about that but maybe this should be produced in a factory staffed by robots.
Is the glow in the dark vinyl the only 'color' variation that sounds horrible? It's nice to have all of these different colors but if it doesn't sound very good then it wouldn't be worthwhile....
No polystyrene? Could use an explanation of plates and masters and cutting disks, etc.
Polystyrene is pretty crappy. Vinyl is quieter and far more durable, so I am glad they don't use that.
Polystyrene is shit.
TheDutchOwner's Tech Channel - Part of TheDutchOwner's Technology Empire exactly ! Decca used polystyrene in the mid and late 50s,
not as durable as vinyl, but new pressings sound fine, but had to be
very carefully taken care of. Not to mention most of the Harmony LP
pressings of the 50's which used a similar material but not as good.
And its breakable...
Does the color of the vinyl affect the sound? If so - how?
Please learn how to make an edible record. Does anyone else think that the pucks look like taffy? If you haven't guessed I'm really fat - ignore my user thumbnail - I don't know that guy.
they used to make records out of chocolate. no joke. (they didn't play very well I can't imagine)
I can imagine a hard-candy record, but would think a metal needle would quickly destroy the grooves in a chocolate record.
These records survived maybe 3 playings and could be eaten.
i think he was referring more to the glow in the dark vinyl but then again i dont really consider my self an "audiophile" so maybe thats why i cant hear the difference.
Hi Jack this is Sarath Kotelawela from Sri Lanka and I am a music producer in SL can you please forward me the details of the owner of the record company Third Man records and how I can contact them.
How do they set the grooves on the record though, do they have to make a custom "stamp" for it?
Yeah it's something called a master copy, it's made out of metal and it's two does that squeeze the soft plastic vinyl, instead of scratching it out it presses it
* two dies
no problem!
+2chws acetate > TP > press
No, every record is made from the same stamp. Every vinyl record is actually exactly the same, most people just don’t notice. It’s a good business model.
*No songwriters were injured in the making of this video* . Sorry...had to say that. I'm having *Phantom of the Paradise* flashbacks, watching this.
Stick your hands into running machinery. Smart.
+Mike Gervasi It was where the record was sliding gently out. Nothing to cut your hand off or anything.
I don't have a clue!! What's a Harlem Shake video?
Hahahahhaha
Tell you what would be interesting, how do you make multicoloured vinyl
pressings like the ones you can see on my channel. Thanks guys
search "Gotta Groove Records - The Artist's Preferred Record Pressing Plant" on TH-cam. it's 14 minutes long and talks about the plant itself but there's a bit on colored vinyl as well as a demonstration.
Jayse
-Thanks Bro
i've never heard any difference between the traditional black vinyl and color vinyl. it can how ever make the record much more rare.
BryanChuckBrennan some coloured vinyls can actually sound better. for example the brand new reissue of Porcupine Tree's Fear of a Blank Planet is in translucent clear blue and sounds much better than the original black vinyl which was notoriously riddled with errors.
The last 2 mins of this feel a little weird in the COVID era
Can you stick your fingers in the running machine one more time? holy moly !!! hahahaha!
He said the glow in the dark vinal sounds like shit . " not for audio files " . Does that apply to all colored vinal? ? ?
audiophiles - people who are massively into sound quality
That suit or sportcoat fits like a bandage. is everybody becoming a slave to fashion?
I- dude your not supposed to touch the records.
If this guy worked in a factory he would not have all his fingers in a year.
A lot of vinyl records are recycled shavings
Maybe I'd take your input more seriously if it came from a different username idk
Vinyl records are obsolete
assurdo pensare a quello che ci mette la macchina a farlo con quello che te lo fanno pagare alla fine troppo cari con un master fanno centinaia e centinaia di copie
Bullseye
"Preeminent" my ass.
HA HA!... United Records Pressing Plant...The WORST pressing plant IN THE WORLD!!
Haircut wouldn't hurt ! Long hair today seems sillier than ever.
Uhg! That's why my Warren Zevon glow in the dark Excitable Boy repress sounds like GARBAGE!
dear record company's, don't do glow in the dark vinyl.
Worst pressing plant literally in the world. Absolutely just awful.
Why?
People really need to let vinyl die as it should have died, decades ago.
Oh, gross, recycling spent dirty vinyl. Just makes for noise on vinyl!! Disappointed in Made in USA slogan!
....spent dirty vinyl? Don't you mean clean, untouched cutoffs that haven't even existed for more than a minute?
Why bother vinyl , Cost too much, I remember walking into tower records 86 87 ,records were gone ,, I hated Cd's , It was stupid trying too except Cds, lame change in mental and enviromentally derange The worst was hearing a tape my friend recorded (whitesnake) I cant believe weird al was downtown ) The all star butt rock band clowns recorded from record player he told me (dialed )in with a new needle syringe Beatles compares ( the 80s lied how great Cd quality was fake thatwithin ye ought peon
Danny Hood this is edited, eh? Try again with punctuation...in English
Are you writing English?? Man