Good review. I've had this same model a few days now and like it a lot. I looked at several and chose this one because it has the smallest .06mm square focal point. According to that it has about the same energy density as a 20 watt laser with a slightly larger spot. Subscribed.
That could be accurate. I was making few projects today with it and I can't belive how much power it packs. Got two other 10W lasers and they are not as powerful. It's for sure my cutting laser from now. However I still prefer the engraving done by OLM 3 or 2Pro maybe because I know them well and got the settings dialed it.
The only two downsides of this laser is the way you focus the laser and it will not pick up where it stopped when shut down by flame or movement sensors. Other than those two quarks, it is a great machine.
Well I already got one, but its an extra accessory that you can buy. Didn't put on my air assist as I wanted to show how it works out of the box without any extras. I may add the air assist for another video.
Do you know how smoothly it cuts acrylic? I'm primarily looking to cut and engrave up to 5mm pieces but the engraving sharpness is critical as it will be for backlit simulator panels, and small flaws will look terrible. Maybe not the best solution for this, but worth asking. Thanks for the thorough test
With correct settings it cuts 3mm black acrylic no issues and clean cut. Transparent acrylic may be a problem you would have to black it out first I think.
When I watch videos about things I do not have much experience with , my eyes glaze over and my ADD kicks in and I quit. I would like to know for the beginner Hobbyist What is the real difference between a 5w laser vs a 10w laser, I understand there are tons of opinions on brands etc. I intend to engrave mostly, cutting has not been something I have given much thought, Is having the capability to cut thicker material something that will present itself as my skills grow?
In short, the stronger the module the thicker material you will cut at better quality and the faster the engraving and cutting will be. The better the module the better the quality of engraving and cutting
Witam, mam pytanie odnośnie grawerowania obrazu. Jakie ustawienia będą najlepsze, żeby wyglądało ładnie? Bo ten mniejszy obraz lepsze detale, ale ciemniejsze, czy to kwestia tła? Robił pan więcej zdj? można gdzieś zobaczyć efekty? Ogólnie polecasz zakup lasera? Widzę w nim duży potencjał na zarobek komercyjny.
Witam, Polecam obejrzeć ten film th-cam.com/video/Dtrn0X7Jluc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kLiw0_MVVBrqQ72f Ciężko doradzić jakieś ustawienia. Zależy to od rodzaju lasera, jego mocy, materiału w którym chcemy grawerować itd. Każdy kawałek drewna może wyglądać odrobinę inaczej bo zależy to od gęstości słojów, twardości drewna itd. To samo odnosi się do sklejki. Można kupić sklejkę która jest przeznaczona do lasera i wtedy nie jest aż tak gęsta i twarda ale można też zwykła. I to też da inne rezultaty. Niestety jest to kwestia kilku eksperymentów by ustalić najlepsze ustawienia. Lasery mają ogromny potencjał i trzeba dobrać taki który odpowie na nasze przykłady. Dajmy na to Laser diodowy niebieski, wybrałbym model z minimum moca 20W. Do tego im mniejszą kropka lasera tym lepszej jakości grawer. Przy 20W można też spokojnie ciąć material. Jednak Laser diodowy nie przetnie bezbarwnej plexiglass. To zrobi tylko Laser CO2, będzie mocniejszy i dużo szybszy. Jednak CO2 na metalach nie da sobie rady z grawerem. Laser niebieski diode wygraweruje stal i nierdzewke ale już kolorowych metali jak miedź, srebro, złoto, mosiądz nie da rady wygrawerować. Do grawerowania metali kolorowych potrzebny jest Laser infrared czerwony. Wiec wszystko zależy od potrzeb 👍
@@CasualDIY Mam możliwość kupna za taką samą cenę "longer ray5 20w" lub "longer ray5 10w" różnią się plamką lasera 0,08*0,1mm (20w), a drugi 0,06*0,06mm (10w). Interesuje mnie tylko grawerowanie obrazów na sklejce 3/4mm. Które byś mi polecił żeby była najlepsza dokładność/jakość?
Do you have the file you used for your tests? I have the same model, but I get much different results than in this video e.g., I don't get fires at 1000mm/min at 100%.
I use LaserRGBL so every box is a separate box. Bit of a long winded process but so far worked for me. However I have purchased the license for Lightburn so my latest tests will be in one file. If you want the files that I used for this test drop me an email.
@@CasualDIY - the issue I have found the most frustrating is the difference in materials. I have some 1/4" maple plywood that I cannot cut through completely, but I have a piece that's like 3/8" thick that cuts very easily (I just don't know the species of the other piece of plywood). I definitely need to test lots and keep good notes!
Well I got two more 10W lasers and they are not as powerful as this one. It got me by surprise a little bit to be honest. I think this will be my new laser for cutting 😁 just need to build an enclosure for it 👍
Hi Tomasz! Can I engrave roman numerals on zinc alloy with this laser? The numerals are only 4mm big. I saw you engraving into steel and longer company told me that it will not engrave metal/steel. Please advice. Great video btw 🥰🙏
It depends what metal. I think you will require red dot laser for engraving zinc alloy. Maybe it would be possible with a blue dot laser if you used some paint/ coating on top of the zinc alloy. However difficult to say as I have never worked with this material.
Hi Tomasz loving your laser reviews, of all the ones that you have done what one would you have first if you had the money to but it? best one for cutting templates?
For cutting the Longer Ray 5, for engraving Ortur 3. However I've still not spent enough time with Longer and the engraving settings. It's just so powerful I can't belive it, hence the setting I used to use for engraving are out of the window and need to do more tests to find the sweet spot for it. I do run both lasers now to be ready for Xmas. OLM3 is engraving and Longer cutting 😅 If I could pick just the one then maybe the Longer as its cheaper and the cutting is best so far I seen for 10W module.
I put a small logo into Lightburn and centred it. In Lightburn the frame command works perfectly. When I save the logo on to an sd card and put it in the Longer Ray5 laser, the touchscreen frames in a different place?? Pulling my hair out. Any ideas Tomasz?
Hmm don't use Lightburn to be honest. But my guess is that the Longer just sees the image and not its position. Just a guess. I have bought the licence for the Lightburn recently so I will start messing around with it soon. Sorry I can't help more at this point.
@@CasualDIY On the touch screen do you know what the HHome button does? Is it different to the Point button? The instructions are very vague. Thank you Thomasz
Something wrong with my laser i guess... Cuz i can cut 4mm plywood 1 pass with 100mm/min and 80% with air assist i dont want set more power cuz im thinking to cut a lot :D And want to keep my laser alive longer. And i see you can easy cut 4mm plywood with 200mm/min and 80% power.
I have to admit it looks pretty good, the wife has been talking about getting one in the not too distant future to create merch (she's an author). She wants something to engrave shot glasses among other things, where as I want one that can cut 1.5mm card stock or balsa for model making. I assume from the tiles this would do the glass, but would it be too powerful for the card/balsa? I know they do a 5w laser option (i looked) but i'm curious if this one could be dialled down enough to handle it, or if it would turn it to ash...lol :)
Hi Colin. From previous experience, one would need to dial it down to between 10-15% & speed between 600-800mm per min. You would need to play with it obviously to get the right configuration. Hold the card down with magnets & use air assist. Hope that helps.
@@colinwalker7204 With a 10w. With a 5w, you would likely need to increase the power slightly & reduce the speed. Like I said beforehand, play with the settings.
Hello :) This looks great but I still have some concern about one thing that is apparently rarely taken into account in the tests: what is the width of the kerf when cutting ? I indeed need to work with very small scales (1/320, 1/220 and 1/160) and I need for example to cut stripes of biberschwanz tiles that are only 0.5mm wide or engrave walls of bricks that are 0.5mm by 0.25mm. The kerf for me should not be a lot more than 0.06mm (as announced by the producer) on regular coloured carton (Canson) or wood-carton up to 2mm thick or plywood up to 4mm thick. Do you have any data about this kerf ? Thank you and best regards. :)
All depends on the material you are trying to cut, on its density etc. For example I use plywood graded for laser cutting most of the times. You get much better results.
Yes mate. For cutting its an absolute beast. Running the Longer now for cutting Christmas ornaments and OLM3 for engraving 😅 it's a factory. In reality they would pay themselves off in one Christmas season, all thanks to Facebook market place 😅
SUPER SALE Longer Ray 5 for $419.99 (lowest price: once in a blue sky!)
Longer Ray 5 10W - s.zbanx.com/r/TmoIxpcbbGYm
Thanks for the video
Thank you for watching
Good review. I've had this same model a few days now and like it a lot. I looked at several and chose this one because it has the smallest .06mm square focal point. According to that it has about the same energy density as a 20 watt laser with a slightly larger spot. Subscribed.
That could be accurate. I was making few projects today with it and I can't belive how much power it packs. Got two other 10W lasers and they are not as powerful. It's for sure my cutting laser from now. However I still prefer the engraving done by OLM 3 or 2Pro maybe because I know them well and got the settings dialed it.
@@CasualDIY I'm looking forward to seeing how it cuts thicker material after the air assist unit arrives. Until then I am figuring out lightburn.
Fantastic machine, Tomasz! Excellent testing and review! 😃
Some day I'm definitely going to get one!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
For cutting it's the best i had so far👍
Thank you for watching and stay safe my friend 👍
Now with air assist it is even better.
Hi Tomasz, impressive demonstration. It's always better to have more power. Plug and play, that's a plus as well. Tony
Thank you. I'm running the Longer on cutting my Christmas ornaments and Ortur 3 is engraving bit of a factory in readiness for Christmas 😅
The only two downsides of this laser is the way you focus the laser and it will not pick up where it stopped when shut down by flame or movement sensors. Other than those two quarks, it is a great machine.
That's true, those features are in the newer bit more expensive lasers.
Hi Tomasz. I'm surprised they don't supply an air assist.
Well I already got one, but its an extra accessory that you can buy. Didn't put on my air assist as I wanted to show how it works out of the box without any extras. I may add the air assist for another video.
@@CasualDIY It would be a good idea because we will be able to see the differences in cut & engraving quality. Even so, great demo, well done.
@@hythewoodworkdesigns I got a Christmas project upcoming so I'll use this laser plus the air assist. Video should be out next week or week after 👍
Great review, really powerful laser!
Thanks 👍 it's super strong, took me by surprise 😮
Thank you for the video. May I ask what settings you used for the metal engraving?
I think it was 200mm/min and 100% power
Have you any experience of engraving and cutting Perspex/plastic sheeting to make routing jigs?
Not yet however I've got some 5mm acrylic sheets on the way for that exact reason so watch this space 😁
@@CasualDIY excellent, I can’t wait! Keep up the awesome content!
Hi Tomasz, would you know of an enclosure for this machine? Keep up the good work.
Hi, I don't think there is one to be fair. The one I know of is from Ortur for the Ortur Laser Master 2 Pro
@@CasualDIY Would it fit inside the Outur one?
@@Fossy35 it would but not sure about the front touch screen panel 🤔 that would have to be cut out to size
Can you give me the grbl settings you are using?
I actually say the settings during the video.
I mean entry $$ in grbl
Do you know how smoothly it cuts acrylic? I'm primarily looking to cut and engrave up to 5mm pieces but the engraving sharpness is critical as it will be for backlit simulator panels, and small flaws will look terrible. Maybe not the best solution for this, but worth asking. Thanks for the thorough test
With correct settings it cuts 3mm black acrylic no issues and clean cut. Transparent acrylic may be a problem you would have to black it out first I think.
How can I use this machine to engrave on a wine glass or tumbler?
Hi, you would need a rotary attachment for it like this one - s.zbanx.com/r/fcCANLe3jheG
Hi Thomasz. Can you cut 0.3mm steel?
Maybe the 20w module. But not tried myself
When I watch videos about things I do not have much experience with , my eyes glaze over and my ADD kicks in and I quit. I would like to know for the beginner Hobbyist What is the real difference between a 5w laser vs a 10w laser, I understand there are tons of opinions on brands etc. I intend to engrave mostly, cutting has not been something I have given much thought, Is having the capability to cut thicker material something that will present itself as my skills grow?
In short, the stronger the module the thicker material you will cut at better quality and the faster the engraving and cutting will be. The better the module the better the quality of engraving and cutting
Are these shipped from the US Tomasz? If so is there import duty on top? I see now they're from China, priced in $. Import duty?
Not sure if they got a warehouse in US, I would ask the seller.
@@CasualDIY I'm in the uk, I saw the price was in USD thats all. Did you pay duty on it?
Witam, mam pytanie odnośnie grawerowania obrazu. Jakie ustawienia będą najlepsze, żeby wyglądało ładnie? Bo ten mniejszy obraz lepsze detale, ale ciemniejsze, czy to kwestia tła? Robił pan więcej zdj? można gdzieś zobaczyć efekty? Ogólnie polecasz zakup lasera? Widzę w nim duży potencjał na zarobek komercyjny.
Witam,
Polecam obejrzeć ten film th-cam.com/video/Dtrn0X7Jluc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kLiw0_MVVBrqQ72f
Ciężko doradzić jakieś ustawienia. Zależy to od rodzaju lasera, jego mocy, materiału w którym chcemy grawerować itd. Każdy kawałek drewna może wyglądać odrobinę inaczej bo zależy to od gęstości słojów, twardości drewna itd. To samo odnosi się do sklejki. Można kupić sklejkę która jest przeznaczona do lasera i wtedy nie jest aż tak gęsta i twarda ale można też zwykła. I to też da inne rezultaty. Niestety jest to kwestia kilku eksperymentów by ustalić najlepsze ustawienia. Lasery mają ogromny potencjał i trzeba dobrać taki który odpowie na nasze przykłady. Dajmy na to Laser diodowy niebieski, wybrałbym model z minimum moca 20W. Do tego im mniejszą kropka lasera tym lepszej jakości grawer. Przy 20W można też spokojnie ciąć material. Jednak Laser diodowy nie przetnie bezbarwnej plexiglass. To zrobi tylko Laser CO2, będzie mocniejszy i dużo szybszy. Jednak CO2 na metalach nie da sobie rady z grawerem. Laser niebieski diode wygraweruje stal i nierdzewke ale już kolorowych metali jak miedź, srebro, złoto, mosiądz nie da rady wygrawerować. Do grawerowania metali kolorowych potrzebny jest Laser infrared czerwony. Wiec wszystko zależy od potrzeb 👍
@@CasualDIY Mam możliwość kupna za taką samą cenę "longer ray5 20w" lub "longer ray5 10w" różnią się plamką lasera 0,08*0,1mm (20w), a drugi 0,06*0,06mm (10w). Interesuje mnie tylko grawerowanie obrazów na sklejce 3/4mm. Które byś mi polecił żeby była najlepsza dokładność/jakość?
@@FunnyMomentsPL w takim razie ten słabszy z mniejsza plamka
Instead of scaling down strength, try increasing speed. It will be faster with similar results.
Do you have the file you used for your tests? I have the same model, but I get much different results than in this video e.g., I don't get fires at 1000mm/min at 100%.
I use LaserRGBL so every box is a separate box. Bit of a long winded process but so far worked for me. However I have purchased the license for Lightburn so my latest tests will be in one file. If you want the files that I used for this test drop me an email.
@@CasualDIY I'm using Lightburn now as well. I'm very new to this, less than 2 weeks, so still finding my feet. Thanks.
@@HibsMax It's bit of a learning curve but when you get it it's quite simple. Will take some experimenting to get the right and best settings.
@@CasualDIY - the issue I have found the most frustrating is the difference in materials. I have some 1/4" maple plywood that I cannot cut through completely, but I have a piece that's like 3/8" thick that cuts very easily (I just don't know the species of the other piece of plywood). I definitely need to test lots and keep good notes!
@@HibsMax Yes some denser harder plywoods are hard to cut. I think you can get plywood that's designed for laser cutting and engraving.
Hi what software are you using on laser
Hi, a free software called LaserGRBL
Thanks keep up with the good videos
Excellent demo of another laser ... seems to be quite a capable machine ... didn't realise they could also do tiles!
Well I got two more 10W lasers and they are not as powerful as this one. It got me by surprise a little bit to be honest. I think this will be my new laser for cutting 😁 just need to build an enclosure for it 👍
Hi Tomasz! Can I engrave roman numerals on zinc alloy with this laser? The numerals are only 4mm big. I saw you engraving into steel and longer company told me that it will not engrave metal/steel. Please advice. Great video btw 🥰🙏
It depends what metal. I think you will require red dot laser for engraving zinc alloy. Maybe it would be possible with a blue dot laser if you used some paint/ coating on top of the zinc alloy. However difficult to say as I have never worked with this material.
@@CasualDIY thank you for your answer
Hi Tomasz loving your laser reviews, of all the ones that you have done what one would you have first if you had the money to but it? best one for cutting templates?
For cutting the Longer Ray 5, for engraving Ortur 3. However I've still not spent enough time with Longer and the engraving settings. It's just so powerful I can't belive it, hence the setting I used to use for engraving are out of the window and need to do more tests to find the sweet spot for it. I do run both lasers now to be ready for Xmas. OLM3 is engraving and Longer cutting 😅
If I could pick just the one then maybe the Longer as its cheaper and the cutting is best so far I seen for 10W module.
I put a small logo into Lightburn and centred it. In Lightburn the frame command works perfectly. When I save the logo on to an sd card and put it in the Longer Ray5 laser, the touchscreen frames in a different place?? Pulling my hair out. Any ideas Tomasz?
Hmm don't use Lightburn to be honest. But my guess is that the Longer just sees the image and not its position. Just a guess. I have bought the licence for the Lightburn recently so I will start messing around with it soon. Sorry I can't help more at this point.
@@CasualDIY On the touch screen do you know what the HHome button does? Is it different to the Point button? The instructions are very vague.
Thank you Thomasz
@@Fossy35 It will home to a place that you select as home spot.
@@CasualDIY Mine has a Home button and a HHome button. I just wondered what the difference was.
@@Fossy35 I need to have a look at that. Can't remember HHome 🤔😅
Are you saying that pine board was 40mm thick?? It doesn’t look like it.
Never said 40mm in this video, I said 14mm pine board.
Something wrong with my laser i guess... Cuz i can cut 4mm plywood 1 pass with 100mm/min and 80% with air assist i dont want set more power cuz im thinking to cut a lot :D And want to keep my laser alive longer. And i see you can easy cut 4mm plywood with 200mm/min and 80% power.
That's a good looking machine! (y)
It's fantastic for cutting mate, best i had so far
I have to admit it looks pretty good, the wife has been talking about getting one in the not too distant future to create merch (she's an author). She wants something to engrave shot glasses among other things, where as I want one that can cut 1.5mm card stock or balsa for model making. I assume from the tiles this would do the glass, but would it be too powerful for the card/balsa? I know they do a 5w laser option (i looked) but i'm curious if this one could be dialled down enough to handle it, or if it would turn it to ash...lol :)
Hi Colin. From previous experience, one would need to dial it down to between 10-15% & speed between 600-800mm per min. You would need to play with it obviously to get the right configuration. Hold the card down with magnets & use air assist. Hope that helps.
@@hythewoodworkdesigns That sound great Gary thanks for the info, is that using this particular one, or just one with a 10w laser?
@@colinwalker7204 With a 10w. With a 5w, you would likely need to increase the power slightly & reduce the speed. Like I said beforehand, play with the settings.
Hello :) This looks great but I still have some concern about one thing that is apparently rarely taken into account in the tests: what is the width of the kerf when cutting ? I indeed need to work with very small scales (1/320, 1/220 and 1/160) and I need for example to cut stripes of biberschwanz tiles that are only 0.5mm wide or engrave walls of bricks that are 0.5mm by 0.25mm. The kerf for me should not be a lot more than 0.06mm (as announced by the producer) on regular coloured carton (Canson) or wood-carton up to 2mm thick or plywood up to 4mm thick. Do you have any data about this kerf ? Thank you and best regards. :)
I would check the website of the manufacturer it should be there. If mot you can always drop them an email 👍
I have this machine and it's not able to cut half this fast.
All depends on the material you are trying to cut, on its density etc. For example I use plywood graded for laser cutting most of the times. You get much better results.
The burning question,is it any good?🤣
Yes mate. For cutting its an absolute beast. Running the Longer now for cutting Christmas ornaments and OLM3 for engraving 😅 it's a factory. In reality they would pay themselves off in one Christmas season, all thanks to Facebook market place 😅