I watch many gun channels on TH-cam. Paul is the most informative and thorough of them all. He is not a fair weather shooter either. Most rained on TH-camr I have ever seen.
I love that Paul just ignores the weather, darkness, gunfire. Other shows would jump cut to the next day to avoid getting soaked. Paul soldiers on no matter what goes down.
that's because he was a soldier, and rain won't kill you. since he is almost ALWAYS wearing that jacket or one very much like it, he can ignore the weather. I thought it was telling that he bothered with a Hat this time, where he normally doesn't bother, must be some cold rain out there this time of year!
After finding Paul's videos, I kind of thought to myself "why do I wait for the weather? hell, why am I waiting for daylight?" I've had a shitload more practice since that admittedly overdue moment of lucidity. I particularly like the low-light challenge. Heavy weather only really sucks if you want to use paper or if you want to repaint the plates. I suppose it might be a concern for people who are dealing with non-waterproof cameras.
Paul Harrell is one of the best gun channels because he actually demonstrates what he's talking about...and admits mistakes and that things are a lot harder than they look and that it takes a lot of time and training to get good.
Tadicuslegion78 Yeah I like and watch a lot of gun youtubers but Paul is the one I look forward to the most by far. Most informative and explains his reasonings well. I know his videos are helpful for a lot of people.
Paul is one of my favorites too. He seems very humble and knowledgeable, two of my most favorite attributes in people. Although, as a fellow CIB recipient, I probably have a bias towards that too.
It's Oregon and actually in the last month or so it seems to not have stopped raining that entire time. I live about 50 miles from where I believe the range area is. In fact it's raining right now.
Hello again Paul. Before my agency adopted semi-Automatics we were mandated to use loops until the mid 1980’s when we did a study at the academy comparing loading from pocket, dump pouch, loops, 2x2 pouch, speed loaders carried in a duty pouch, and magazines carried in a belt pouch with a flap. We used 10 students who had already qualified as test personnel and they each were timed for 10 runs with each reloading method. 10 x 10 = 100 test runs per reloading method. They were allowed to practice with each reloading method until they felt proficient before each went before the video camera. The reload times were: (Average for 100 repetitions) ( normal ambient light) (looking at weapon) Pocket = 15 seconds Dump Pouch = 12 seconds Loops (loading two at a time) = 9 seconds 2x2 pouch = 8 seconds Speed loader* = 6 seconds Magazine (Non-modified 1911) = 3 seconds Two round partial reload from loops = 3 seconds The same tests were repeated in total darkness. Reload Times: Pocket = 21 seconds Dump pouch = 16 seconds Loops loading 2 at a time = 12 seconds 2x2 Pouch = 11 seconds Speed Loaders = 7 seconds Magazine = 4 seconds Partial reloading from loops = 5 seconds (Some test personnel indexed the two rounds incorrectly thereby requiring multiple trigger pulls to simulate firing the two dummy rounds.) Notes: * Speed loaders were Safariland Test personnel were permitted to look at the weapon when they could see it. The No light tests were just that, no light which was more difficult than a typical night reload when there is almost always some ambient light. The ammunition used was round nose lead .38 Special dummy rounds. DUTY rounds are inherently more difficult to reload because of their bullet nose configuration. After 9 years at the a academy in firearms training I returned to the field. (we were still carrying .357 revolvers) I chose 12 loops because of long term familiarity and because of the flexibility of full or partial reloading. I could have elected to carry both speed loader and loops, but I found that when shooting under some stress in IPSC matches I would invariably suffer hesitation when trying to decide which method to use. YMMV.
First of all, I love Paul Harrell's videos so no one should take what I'm saying as criticism of him or this video. That said, the way I was taught to swap out magazines with semiautomatic handguns and revolvers by my Marine father and later while in the Marine Corps (c. 1986-1996) was to raise the firearm to just below eye level while keeping your focus on the enemy. You use your peripheral vision to speed up the loading process regardless of the technology used. If push comes to shove, you can shift focus just long enough to align magazine, speed loader, or whatever holds replacement cartridges with the chamber or magazine well, then immediately shift focus of your vision back to the enemy/battlefield. This allows you to focus on the battlefield, keep a sense of the tactical situation and all while gaining some use of your vision to speed up the reloading process. I was taught that way because it was emphasized by my dad and later by USMC shooting instructors that under combat stress fine motor skills would (not might!!) deteriorate. Simply relying on feeling the magazine into the well might work most times at the range but might not when you're engaged in a real fire fight. I've used the just below eyes' level reload technique with both revolvers and speed loaders ever since.
Paul: I reloaded my Colt DS w/a speedloader in the middle of a gunfight w/armed robbers in ‘74. I was on a small, dark parking lot and back in the fight very quickly even though I’d practiced very little w/the loader beforehand. In retirement, when carrying a J frame, I’ll carry a speedloader in a jacket pocket b/c I know they work.
vic vapor Never thought about it this way but I guess it did. Had I been slow to reload the suspect could have put me down like he did another cop in that same fight.
This gun channel doesn't bring politics into the mix which I highly appreciate. Just wholesome knowledge from an absolute professional. Not only can I learn about most types of firearm and ammunition on this channel, but how to know what an admirable man acts like and presents himself as. Something which is extremely rare nowadays. Thank you so much Paul for your scientific presentations and honesty about mistakes. Super smart dude right here.
It is highly likely that almost all who are watching this video will never be in a situation where reloading quickly will be necessary. But it is good to see the various methods professionally demonstrated.
@Denham, yeah there would be a tribe of guys all wearing hunting caps and jackets and when we saw each other we'd give the discreet Ocean's 11 sign of recognition.
Yeah bridge that gap. Put it where you can see both. I saw a Clint Smith video once about revolvers and when he would reload he’d keep the pistol up part ways and down range and he was able to reload and see the threat and the cylinder.
With semi-auto handguns that works great for me, haven't tried it with a revolver and wonder if the difference in how you load a revolver would change how it goes.
Despite all of the innovations in revolver loading, I find that the $10 HKS speed loader is really the overall best option for reloading. I have carried one in my pocket for the past 4 years and have never once had the rounds fall out unintentionally but always load flawlessly when practicing with them. People tell me all the time about bulging pockets etc, but when you're well over 200 lbs with the emphasis on _well_, this is never an issue as my pants are big :)
I've got 2 of the model 587 for my 7 shot 686 and they're great. One of them is a tiny bit finicky with the ammo though, if the case has a slightly larger rim they stick a bit and I've had times where it only dropped in 5/7 and the other 2 either fell on the ground or didn't fall at all. That being said, I just tested myself and I'm able to consistently eject the casings and reload using the speedloader in my pocket within 6.5 seconds. Sounds really slow to me, but this was the most reloading practice I've had in a long time
Depending on how tight you wear your pants, they can be "bulky" and uncomfortable. I'm not that kind of guy though. The HKS is one of the simplest speedloaders to use and is fairly inexpensive. It also works with multiple models of revolver, which can be a money saver too. I will say that I've had an HKS dump/release the rounds while in a pocket. Kinda sucks, but you're then in the same place with loading the rounds individually as if carried loose.
One note on the issue of moon clips and the rounds sometimes wiggling around and getting stuck, that can *sometimes* be mitigated with after-market moon clips. Often the moon clips that come with a gun are, as was said, made out of flimsy metal. After market ones are often made out of sterner stuff. It's not a guarantee mind you, but I have had success in mitigating the "wiggling" issue, and been able to reload a revolver with less fuss using them. .
Great series Paul. As a "Revolver guy" I've found reload work at chest level instead of waist level helps with the reload to engage speed tremendously. Practice is key but keeping the gun at chest level, elbows in against chest allows for a straight extension of the arms and a rapid sight acquisition. Keep up the great work.
Finally, someone who knows how to reload without loosing sight of the target/enemy. I keep my moonclips in old prescription bottles with a plastic test tube in the middle to prevent them from bending. Great channel thanks for making your videos.
Tip for using the speed strips, put 2 rounds in the end of the strip, skip 1 slot, then another 2 rounds and leave it with only the 4 rounds total on the strip. The extra time it takes for the 5th round isn't worth it, and the spacing between the two groups of 2 rounds helps you with better grip and control over the strip when loading.
For me it was always a matter of just having 5 or 6 spare rounds in a pocket. Figured it was better than just carrying 5 in the cylinder. (I don't really CCW one anymore, it's more of a camping/hiking gun)
My J frame doesn't like speedloaders - rounds get blocked by grip when attempting to load. Speed strips for me on my J frame and speed loader on my L frame,
@@alphaspartan Forgive my jumping in..fwiw: Gun always in battery, no failure to feed or to extract, easy re-strike on failure to fire [just pull the trigger again], fire from pocket doesn't jam gun, big calibers in 'normal' guns [.357, .44, etc], and practice std rounds for the same guns [.38spl, .44spl]. 5, 6, 7 rounds enough to get most jobs done...and no safeties. Look to confirm.
A S&W J frame is one of my common carry guns. I use a dump pouch (circa 1973). It is pretty flat on my belt and gets covered by the un-tucked shirt. Speed loaders in a pouch look like little hand grenades and in pants or shorts pockets they look like...I am happy to see someone. 🍌 The dump pouch is no more obvious than a magazine pouch. I was issued these when I began a career in LE in 1973. They still work good. I prefer the fold down drop pouch. Mine is a single and can hold 6 rounds of .38/357 Smokeless powder is here to stay, Paul...you should try it sometime. 😜
A quick glance or two at your hands while reloading is tactically sound, just as you might need to glance around to assess your situation. Just avoid tunnel vision. And by the way, have you seen a 1980's-vintage FBI 2x2x2 pouch? Rounds lean forward when the pouch is unsnapped, but the pouch cannot fold fully down because of an internal strap. No dumping. And cartridges are kept in pairs for easy 2-round loading.
Another excellent informative and entertaining presentation from my favorite TH-cam personality... I personally like the speed strips not for the Speed of reloading but to keep the rounds organized in a pocket which for me is better than a bulky speedloader or loose rounds in a pocket.
FWIW, carry your moon clips in either a dump pouch or a speed loader pouch. The thin metal clips don't get bent like they might in your pocket. Another great video Paul!
Hi Paul - I was one of your loyal viewer who requested a Part Two, and I really appreciate this additional double action revolver loading video. THANK YOU! I’d like to offer some further - and hopefully beneficial - information concerning moon clips. One of my favorite revolvers is a four-inch barrel Smith 610, an N Frame that chambers both 10mm and .40 S&W. It’s simply a superb firearm: exceptional accurate, completely durable and reliable, and (like all N Frames) built to last for generations. In addition, it provides ammunition flexibility analogous to .357 magnum/.38 Special and .44 magnum/.44 Special, since it’s designed to fire both the 10mm and the somewhat less powerful mire common and less expensive .40. Obviously, it requires moon clips. However, for years I have used RIM-Z polymer moon clips (available from Brownells and many other retailers). I have LOTS of experience with these polymer moon clips and I find them to be GREATLY superior to the steel designs that are far more common. Specifically: 1. They don’t break or rust 2. They can’t be bent or crimped (polymers return to their designed shape) 3. They are strong and hold the rounds firmly (even if dropped) 4. They are “tool-less” (rounds can be inserted and extracted with “finger strength” alone) 5. They have sufficient flexibility to “nest” two loaded moon clips, with the projectiles facing in opposite directions (this is a major advantage, since it permits twelve rounds to be pocket-carried in an cubic area that’s not too much greater than six) I’m entirely convinced that they’re: (a) a LOT better than traditional moon clips and (b) a design that uses a specific - highly specialized - type of polymer to enhance substantially the utility of the moon clip concept.
20 years in LEO in a department that issued revolvers with speed loaders, and a slightly longer time owning a Model 1988 S&W with moon clips, showed me that with familiarity the moon clips are hands down faster. Never carry ammo in your pocket, that is as poor a practice as I can imagine, use pouches on your belt. A pouch can carry 2 moon clips one on top of the other. A typical pouch used to carry 12 rounds in speed loaders carries 24 rounds in moon clips. Chamfering the chambers helps loading no matter what technique or equipment you use, but in particular helps with moon clips, though I never had it done to the 1988 because 45 ACP seems to chamber smoothly with moon clips, one reason they have stood the test of time so well. . I love moon clips so much I recently added two more moon clip revolvers, including the 8 shot Smith N Frame to my carry gun lineup. Having lived with moon clips I have to say the reasons some dismiss them are much more theoretical than real world. A warped clip is obvious, and with practice getting cases into and out of them is not the onerous chore requiring tools that it looks like to the casual user. And, you have that great DA revolver feature that every shot is also the practice of your failure drill, and primers are the single most likely cause of failure.
yeah, I'm not a professional so I at least glace at my reloading to make sure it's lining up before dropping the rounds, then back at the target as I close the revolver before shooting
It does you no good to maintain eye contact with the bad guy is you're getting shot at. Situational awareness is crucial but ammo in the gun is the priority.
When I carry a revolver, I carry HKS speedloaders. As far as loose rounds, I don’t see why you’d need to get all of the rounds into the cylinder in an active battle. Two shots would likely give you time to find better cover, and reload more rounds. Thanks for Sharing! 👍👍👍👍
I think I would have finished college if Paul was my professor. Your videos are always informative, well edited, and with enough "real world" situations for the masses to make well informed decisions. Thank you for the unbiased opinions that have helped me throughout the years. And that jacket, more iconic than Indiana Jones' hat
During the 1970s and early 80s ,prior to going to auto loaders for duty ,our dept issued all officers dumper boxes for the duty belt and speed strips for the dumpers. Dumper boxes came ,before speed strips.and in the beginning Bianci was the only maker of speed strips. They were designed to be sized to fit perfectly into the standard dumper boxes. Hence the size of the tab designed to pull the strip from the dumper box. Our depts sequencw for reloading was to open the cylinder ,slap the ejecter rod while the gun was rotated up side down ,while continuing to look at the threat area. Open the dumper box and pull out the speed strip ( pulling it out by the tab indexes it in the hand so you know where it and the rounds are) all while looki g at the .threat area. Take a look at the gun while indexing the first 2 rounds . Once the first two rounds are inserted ,look back down range / threat area while peeling the strip for those rounds. No need to look at the gun while peeling . Repeat 2 more times and only looking at the gun while indexing 2 rounds . MOST of the time you are looking at the threat area while reloading . The range officer ,during practice and qualification would on ocassion during the reload would direct the officer that the threat had re appeared during the reload after 2 or 4 rounds reloaded and the officer would then re engage the target with either 2 or 4 rounds reloaded . Also the "top -off " can be done w less fumbling of ammo w the speed strip.
Revolvers are never going to reload as quickly as auto loading magazine guns. However, revolvers have advantages that autoloaders don’t. One is they can use different types and power rated ammo where autos can’t. You don’t have to hunt brass after shooting practice. They require fewer steps to fire when carried loaded. I think you did a great job explaining the advantages and disadvantages of reloading revolvers. I remember when police officers carried extra ammo in belt loops like cowboys, then came drop pouches and speed loaders. There is less chances of shooting yourself in the foot with a revolver than an auto. It takes more effort to do stupid acts carrying a revolver unless your name is Barney Fife. I don’t feel any more protected carrying a high capacity auto than carrying an old six-shooter. Speed strips are better than loose rounds and speed loaders are faster. Moon clips are interesting if you ever watched Jerry Miculek use them. I prefer using wheel guns for hunting because they provide better accuracy and velocity over autos. Nothing like an 8” barrel to tighten up long-range groups. I grew up learning to conserve ammo, and not wasting it. Shooting costly ammo just to see dirt fly is not on my too do list. I like watching your videos and enjoy seeing you test different guns and ammo.
all good information ,no ego trips or ramming opinions down the throat. just a competent firearms professional sharing experience thanks again Mr. Harrell
I still feel like speed strips are more of a "shoot 2 load 2" kind of tool. I also carry 2 different strips 1 with my edc ammo and 1 with ammo more suited for 4 legged critters in case I take in impromptu stroll through the woods I can swap ammo pretty easily... Or at least a couple of rounds if I don't wanna change out the whole line ul
It might be the 45 round, but the moonclips for my SW625 simply fall into the cylinder. Nothing like this, which is why I'm thinking the size of the round and chamfered cylinders make all the difference.
Baller hat homie. I like it. Watching you I just realized that TH-cam probably doesn't allow you to monetize. In my opinion you deserve extra thanks for doing what your doing. Thank you. I sure do enjoy what it is you are doing here.
you can also reload the revolver with loose ammunition, speed strips or speed loaders and still keep the revolver within your "workspace" while you look down range but still have the gun within your view. kind of a best of both worlds approach
Paul, have you seen *_Massad Ayoob Demonstrates the "Stressfire" reload for the Revolver_* video from Sept 2009? Might improve your revolver reload speed enough to make a significant difference. To be honest, I think he's using punch release speed loaders, instead of the Twist release ones.
great video! I carried a revolver for years and used HKS speed loaders. Could you do a video on the 327 Magnum that would be awesome. It has similar ballistics of a 357 according to what I have read.
It has been a long time from when I was on patrol. I used a dump pouch that didn't dump, along with Bianchi Speed Strips. I practiced with them to the point that I wore a couple out by ripping the rubber. However, they were cheap back then, too. I would look down at the gun, figuring that I would see from my peripheral if there was danger coming. Got fairly fast that way. Then the HKS speedloaders came out and I switched to them but still used speed strips for off-duty in the pocket. In the end, it does come down to practice and familiarity with what you use. Nice video and thanks for putting up with the rain to make it.
I think a quick peek down can do wonders. The best part of moonclips are the uniform ejection. No round trapped. A group of competitive shooters, the Arizona Wild Bunch, basically proved that, with practice, the actual reload could be performed equally fast with a speed loader as it is the same arm motion as with the moon clip (around the year 2000). This for all except the Miculeks of the world
When anybody tells me that revolvers have a simpler manual of arms than a semi I always tell them the manual of arms includes reloading. Now I have a video to make my case. And handloading your magazines back home isn't part of the manual of arms.
Right. I am a dyed in the wool revolver guy, started out on single actions... Till I realized how hopelessly non tactical they were, no matter how fast my draw was, no matter how accurate I was, because the reloads were just way too many seconds long. Upgraded to double actions and speedloaders, and felt pretty confident for a number of years... Until recently. Cannot stress just how much this simple video exemplifies all the salient weak points of a revolver. The reloads just suck, no matter how fast, practiced, and proficient you are at it. I now run autoloaders and mostly that God forsaken polymer frame crap, solely out of practicality and pragmatic acceptance of reality. I can put twenty rounds rounds downrange on target, with another twenty on the way, before Paul could demonstrate getting his next five into the cylinder. I hate math, and hard facts. But my mind has to rule my heart in this case. To me, nothing is sexier, more well balanced, and more functional than a Redhawk in .44 Mag. But my FN, SIG, and Ruger's are vastly more useful in a real world firefight. Remember, we don't get to choose the time or the place, only the tool we walked into the gunfight with. Carry good kit. Be logical. Keep the wheelguns for fun. But fight with magazines. It may save your life. Revolvers are not obsolete, but they are substantially slower during perhaps the most critical moment of your life. Why die fumbling through a reload with moon clips, when you could tap/rack/bang your way towards surviving the encounter?
@@reckmanD ____ The head of security at my church carries a five round .38 in his front pocket, no reloads, no contingency plan. He is 100% convinced he won't need more than two rounds, ever... My brother is a SWAT team leader, who has kicked doors for twenty years. He says all you ever want in a gunfight is more ammo... Can't we all just get along? I have been in precisely zero gunfights, and for some odd reason, would prefer that sum as a sort of lifetime achievement award. Should that status ever change, I very much would like the ratio to be BAD GUYS : 0 HOME TEAM : 1 Hence the concept of overwhelming firepower superiority vastly increasing the odds that the threat is stopped, and you still get to wake up the next morning... ______ On the other hand - Revolvers are like stick shifts... just more fun to drive. _______
@@reckmanD ____ The head of security at my church carries a five round .38 in his front pocket, no reloads, no contingency plan. He is 100% convinced he won't need more than two rounds, ever... My brother is a SWAT team leader, who has kicked doors for twenty years. He says all you ever want in a gunfight is more ammo... Can't we all just get along? I have been in precisely zero gunfights, and for some odd reason, would prefer that sum as a sort of lifetime achievement award. Should that status ever change, I very much would like the ratio to be BAD GUYS : 0 HOME TEAM : 1 Hence the concept of overwhelming firepower superiority vastly increasing the odds that the threat is stopped, and you still get to wake up the next morning... ______ On the other hand - Revolvers are like stick shifts... just more fun to drive. _______
Seeing Paul stand there looking at the threat for so long, you can see why a lot of guys would do a New York reload. That old school dump pouch was neat. Now a days a dump pouch is just a open pouch for dumping gear in quick. Like used mags and such.
I could say many good things about this, or any of your other presentations. I was impressed that you used a dump pouch made by a subscriber.Thank you, and please keep up the good work.
@@TheStraycat74 Over the last year I've put an emphasis on improving my DA revolver shooting and at this point I can easily hit a 10x8 steel silhouette at 25 yards firing fairly rapidly. That's more than accurate enough for me, since an attacker will almost certainly be bigger than that, and it's highly likely they'll be significantly closer. If you put enough rounds down range in practice anything can become second nature. At this point I rarely shoot SA, when it used to be the only way I shot.
@@desertfox2020 Fair Enough. I shoot for score and for fun, I don't do nearly as many self defense drills as I should only because lack of funds makes ammo more expensive proportionately for me
I have gotten good at the speed strip and find I can reload fast. The speed loader is faster and I typically carry those but sometimes I carry both or just a speed strip if I don’t want it to print in the pocket too much. I love revolvers and carry one most everyday. Thanks for the good video.
Okay, so you make a big deal about looking ahead while reloading, but reloading while looking at your revolver is clearly faster. Why not both? Any reason you can't hold the gun up near your face instead of down low?
at the range I don't see a problem with it, but if you MIGHT get into a firefight you will loose track of your target. if you are going to train for a firefight, train the way you plan on fighter or you won't. Paul was a soldier, he fights the way he was trained, and he shows US how he was trained by not looking at the firearm and keeping track of his target.
For most people. Please note I like my auto loaders. For some people revolvers make sense. I have trained several elderly people who had never fired nor ever owned a firearm before. The level of training for them to effectively use an auto loader is a process. For those of us that grew up with auto loaders, remembering to take off the safety, immediate and remedial action drills become second nature with lots of practice. Without reinforcement training those skills deteriorate rapidly. But for people who will spend much less time at the range and doing weapons familiarization drills, revolvers make much more sense. They can be taught to load point and shoot in very short order. Given the information provided on this channel most defensive shootings very rarely exceed six rounds. All a person has to remember to do with a revolver in a stressful situation is point and pull the trigger. In general no safeties to deal with and extremely few misfires, or malfunctions. Yes I am aware that there are malfunctions and misfires with revolvers they are generally much less common. The elderly who did not have firearms when they were young might not have enough training to build up the muscle memory to clear a malfunction of an auto loader, or to remember to do it effectively and quickly. Some may not have the physical ability to go clear the house like us. They might need a walker or cane. I recommend that if they hear something go bump in the night. Sit up and stay in bed. Grab your firearm and then point the gun at their bedroom door aiming about six inches above the door knob.. Call 911,(good use for Amazon echo) on speaker and stay on the phone with them until police arrive, If somebody comes through that door without identifying themselves as police pull the trigger. If they keep coming pull it again. This is simple and easy to train. Revolvers are great in this application.
Never experienced a revolver failure to fire. Semi autos I have. If a double action revolver is loaded, it is basically guaranteed to fire. Semis have safeties, slides and you must chamber a round... Any shooting I am likely to be involved in will be a speedy defensive action in a high stress situation. I want a simple tool. The Revolver provides that.
I would say that auto loaders may be great for you, but for others a revolver may be better. Before anything, though, I would say a person should spend some time shooting their gun at a range, drilling frequently and determining when and how it is likely to fail. If your revolver fails when it is dirty, or works unreliably with certain ammo, you can address those issues. If it has major inherent flaws that prevent it from being reliable, get rid of it and buy another gun. Light strikes, cylinder lockup, non ejecting cases, etc., all that needs to be addressed immediately. If your auto loader is picky about ammo, or sensitive to limp-wristing, or needs significant breaking in, or needs to be perfectly clean, you need to know that, as well as how to remedy common malfunctions. If nothing goes wrong, then yes, an auto loader will be much simpler to operate. But that happens if you get a double feed, or bullets nosediving in your mag, or you forget to take off the safety? S.O.L. I believe with a revolver, if something goes wrong, due to the simplicity of the mechanism, you will know immediately that all you have is a brick in your hands and react accordingly a few seconds faster than when an auto loader malfunctions and your brain tries to "figure it out". Either way, if you have a gun, get real training.
For combat well maintained auto loaders are state of the art. However for defence of your home or office letting an auto loader sit in a hide with a compressed mag or two and no maintenance for a decade and then risking your life on that handgun seems short sighted.
After watching your videos for so long, it was surreal for me to see you looking down at the gun during reloading! That's just not the Paul we've all come to know.
Two speed loaders and as many speed strips as you can carry! As I live in Virginia, this is unfortunately going to become my reality very shortly! 😠!!!
Brobdingnagian One, unfortunately rallies usually don’t change much. It’s not a bad idea for a first step, but governments, and especially big governments, grow like a ratchet; rarely all at once, and sometimes looking like they’re getting smaller for a minute, but inevitably growing ever bigger and more oppressive. Rallies are no obstacle, nor are elections.😞 The good news is that once a sufficient number of people are fed up, you won’t need a rally or an election. If ten million Virginians stayed home and simply announced a giant collective middle finger to the state, it would begin crumbling. Molon Labe and that sort of thing. If ten million of you and all your likeminded neighbors knew each other well and agreed to defend each other, you wouldn’t have to, and the state would have a really hard time making an example of one of you. There just aren’t ten million Virginians (or any other state) that value freedom over our behemoth nanny/police state. Yet. (I’m in neighboring TN with family in VA, and I hope and pray Monday goes well! TN isn’t nearly as gun-friendly as I had thought when I moved here, and always seems to be on the verge of getting worse, with all our stinking meddling politicians trying to save the world one regulation at a time, as if that’s EVER worked. But I digress...)
No, your reality is very shortly going to become a fight for which having a revolver would make you... ill equipped. Please bring a (loaded) rifle to your rally. If everyone did, you might get somewhere.
I am glad you did the speed strip vs free ammo, that seems to be the proper question. if you can use a speed loader it's the right answer. the speed strip seems to be the if you can't or won't use a speed loader option it's better than nothing
Ruger makes an aluminum speed loader that has a smaller outside diameter so as not to bump or just be to large like other ones that are made by Rugar and some other manufacturers. Especially! If you have put a aftermarket aftermarket grip like Houge. Those will make less room to move. Just my SP101 experience. Thought I would share. Thanks Paul. Best gun channel there is!
Great cover Paul. When I first started my LE career we were issued revolvers and had to carry our extra ammo in "belt loops". We were required to polish the ammo for appearances. We were taught to remove 2 at a time to reload. A few years later the agency allowed us to carry Speedloaders but only in our pockets. The belt loop ammunition remained because administration thought it looked good. Thank God we went to semi-auto pistols a bit later.
@@the_weed_in_your_garden9319 "If you have to pull a gun and use it, a revolver is enough. 2-3 shots and its over in self defense" And by that logic not having a gun at all is perfectly fine because you won't need one. The reason I carry is for the exception to the rule.
@@TheOwenMajor I don't see the logical connection actually. I would say by your logic of preparing for the exception, I should have an AR-15 slung on my shoulder and wear body armor just to go to the grocery store. But, hey. You do you. Enjoy your life
@@the_weed_in_your_garden9319 It's a matter of convenience sure. But for me carrying a modern semi auto is not a substantially greater inconvenience compared to the much more effectiveness it gives me. Why not give yourself more capabilty?
I absolutely love my fathers LCR in 39 Special with the CTC laser grip on it. Fantastic j- frame revolver for self-defense !!!!!!!!! Another awesome video Mr. Harreill !!!!!!!!!
Excellent videos. I’m new to the channel and your videos are superb. No BS and everything that you say that is your opinion is backed up by trial and evidence. Too many videos on TH-cam are biased to what the channel owner chooses to carry. They make statements that have absolutely no facts or bearing. Not to mention these people almost always claim to be EXPERTS but don’t have any credentials. Thanks for what you do. It’s killer and reliable information I use to make choices when it comes to firearms and ammunition. Wish you did classes or were in my area.
I highly approve of how you focus on the target during reloads and hash out all the caveats and yabbits while trying all possibilities. Great points about dump pouches, I'll watch revolver guys on TV and see if I notice. Thorough and scientific, as always, Paul
I watch many gun channels on TH-cam. Paul is the most informative and thorough of them all. He is not a fair weather shooter either. Most rained on TH-camr I have ever seen.
I love that Paul just ignores the weather, darkness, gunfire. Other shows would jump cut to the next day to avoid getting soaked. Paul soldiers on no matter what goes down.
that's because he was a soldier, and rain won't kill you. since he is almost ALWAYS wearing that jacket or one very much like it, he can ignore the weather. I thought it was telling that he bothered with a Hat this time, where he normally doesn't bother, must be some cold rain out there this time of year!
If it ain't rainin', we ain't trainin'!
Yep. Even when he was showing us how what to do in a situation when you're in bed, while getting soaked outside in a real bed!
After finding Paul's videos, I kind of thought to myself "why do I wait for the weather? hell, why am I waiting for daylight?"
I've had a shitload more practice since that admittedly overdue moment of lucidity. I particularly like the low-light challenge. Heavy weather only really sucks if you want to use paper or if you want to repaint the plates. I suppose it might be a concern for people who are dealing with non-waterproof cameras.
If it ain't rainin', we ain't trainin'.
Damn. I really wanted to try this one at home but I’m not a professional
@Frisky Bottomsuuater I'm a pretty cold and rational guy but those two words... Florida Man... Are enough to make me cower under my blankets at night.
Hey Florida Man, did I see you on the Santana channel, or where?
I am not a professional either. I never try things I see on this channel at home.
I go to the range.
Frisky Bottomsuuater donut makes videos for kids and individuals with a low iq
Cheer-up pal, you got thanked by Paul just for watching!
Paul Harrell is one of the best gun channels because he actually demonstrates what he's talking about...and admits mistakes and that things are a lot harder than they look and that it takes a lot of time and training to get good.
Paul is the best, plain and simple.
I agree, but which channels are denying mistakes?
Tadicuslegion78 Yeah I like and watch a lot of gun youtubers but Paul is the one I look forward to the most by far. Most informative and explains his reasonings well. I know his videos are helpful for a lot of people.
Paul is one of my favorites too. He seems very humble and knowledgeable, two of my most favorite attributes in people. Although, as a fellow CIB recipient, I probably have a bias towards that too.
I certainly think his is the best.
If it ain't raining, Paul ain't training. 😛
He is a Marine. That’s sort of what they do.
@@dr.floridamanphd When I went to Army BCT, it rained at the the most karmarific times. Low crawl, high crawl, obstacle courses, etc.
Even in the Army, we called it training weather.
It's Oregon and actually in the last month or so it seems to not have stopped raining that entire time. I live about 50 miles from where I believe the range area is. In fact it's raining right now.
Nope, he’s done tons of videos in the dry. *sigh*
Hello again Paul. Before my agency adopted semi-Automatics we were mandated to use loops until the mid 1980’s when we did a study at the academy comparing loading from pocket, dump pouch, loops, 2x2 pouch, speed loaders carried in a duty pouch, and magazines carried in a belt pouch with a flap.
We used 10 students who had already qualified as test personnel and they each were timed for 10 runs with each reloading method. 10 x 10 = 100 test runs per reloading method. They were allowed to practice with each reloading method until they felt proficient before each went before the video camera.
The reload times were: (Average for 100 repetitions) ( normal ambient light) (looking at weapon)
Pocket = 15 seconds
Dump Pouch = 12 seconds
Loops (loading two at a time) = 9 seconds
2x2 pouch = 8 seconds
Speed loader* = 6 seconds
Magazine (Non-modified 1911) = 3 seconds
Two round partial reload from loops = 3 seconds
The same tests were repeated in total darkness.
Reload Times:
Pocket = 21 seconds
Dump pouch = 16 seconds
Loops loading 2 at a time = 12 seconds
2x2 Pouch = 11 seconds
Speed Loaders = 7 seconds
Magazine = 4 seconds
Partial reloading from loops = 5 seconds (Some test personnel indexed the two rounds incorrectly thereby requiring multiple trigger pulls to simulate firing the two dummy rounds.)
Notes:
* Speed loaders were Safariland
Test personnel were permitted to look at the weapon when they could see it.
The No light tests were just that, no light which was more difficult than a typical night reload when there is almost always some ambient light.
The ammunition used was round nose lead .38 Special dummy rounds. DUTY rounds are inherently more difficult to reload because of their bullet nose configuration.
After 9 years at the a academy in firearms training I returned to the field. (we were still carrying .357 revolvers) I chose 12 loops because of long term familiarity and because of the flexibility of full or partial reloading. I could have elected to carry both speed loader and loops, but I found that when shooting under some stress in IPSC matches I would invariably suffer hesitation when trying to decide which method to use. YMMV.
I like this test. For my reload, Ive often carried a speed loader for full reload, and a strip for partial reload.
First of all, I love Paul Harrell's videos so no one should take what I'm saying as criticism of him or this video. That said, the way I was taught to swap out magazines with semiautomatic handguns and revolvers by my Marine father and later while in the Marine Corps (c. 1986-1996) was to raise the firearm to just below eye level while keeping your focus on the enemy. You use your peripheral vision to speed up the loading process regardless of the technology used. If push comes to shove, you can shift focus just long enough to align magazine, speed loader, or whatever holds replacement cartridges with the chamber or magazine well, then immediately shift focus of your vision back to the enemy/battlefield. This allows you to focus on the battlefield, keep a sense of the tactical situation and all while gaining some use of your vision to speed up the reloading process. I was taught that way because it was emphasized by my dad and later by USMC shooting instructors that under combat stress fine motor skills would (not might!!) deteriorate. Simply relying on feeling the magazine into the well might work most times at the range but might not when you're engaged in a real fire fight. I've used the just below eyes' level reload technique with both revolvers and speed loaders ever since.
When I change mags the pistol is in my field of vision (when the situation allows). I find it awkward to hold a revolver that high.
I couldn’t think of anything more scary then Paul starring deeply into your soul as he reloads his revolver with loose ammo.
😂
If you’re alive and watching Paul reloading, you weren’t the intended target
Paul: I reloaded my Colt DS w/a speedloader in the middle of a gunfight w/armed robbers in ‘74. I was on a small, dark parking lot and back in the fight very quickly even though I’d practiced very little w/the loader beforehand. In retirement, when carrying a J frame, I’ll carry a speedloader in a jacket pocket b/c I know they work.
Good job!
vic vapor Never thought about it this way but I guess it did. Had I been slow to reload the suspect could have put me down like he did another cop in that same fight.
@@oldcop18 Sorry to hear you lost a comrade.
Old Cop I hope you blew those scumbags away, cop killing is truly vile and unforgivable
A good old DS with HKS speed loaders is still pretty hard to beat.
❤️ we all miss you!
I don't recall seeing ANY other youtubers doing videos in the rain and snow the way PH does them on a ROUTINE basis. Cheers!!!
So glad we have this wonderful encyclopedia of work to reference when we need to. Thank you Paul, and thank you Roy for carrying the torch.
This gun channel doesn't bring politics into the mix which I highly appreciate.
Just wholesome knowledge from an absolute professional.
Not only can I learn about most types of firearm and ammunition on this channel, but how to know what an admirable man acts like and presents himself as. Something which is extremely rare nowadays.
Thank you so much Paul for your scientific presentations and honesty about mistakes. Super smart dude right here.
It is highly likely that almost all who are watching this video will never be in a situation where reloading quickly will be necessary. But it is good to see the various methods professionally demonstrated.
i agree with your assessment and hope that none of us ever have to. But we should all practice in case of that eventuality.
I'm patiently waiting for the Paul Harrell clothing line to be announced...
MEAT TARGET T-SHIRT!!!!!
@Denham, yeah there would be a tribe of guys all wearing hunting caps and jackets and when we saw each other we'd give the discreet Ocean's 11 sign of recognition.
@@Jazzman-bj9fq 😁👍
Dude, they released it in 1972 and it hasn't changed since.
Just waiting for the video where he pulls a rpg out of his side pocket..😁
Bringing the weapon up into your visual space while reloading is my technique.
I like that
Same with diagnosing clearing malfunctions.
Interesting idea. I will give that a try.
Yeah bridge that gap. Put it where you can see both. I saw a Clint Smith video once about revolvers and when he would reload he’d keep the pistol up part ways and down range and he was able to reload and see the threat and the cylinder.
With semi-auto handguns that works great for me, haven't tried it with a revolver and wonder if the difference in how you load a revolver would change how it goes.
Despite all of the innovations in revolver loading, I find that the $10 HKS speed loader is really the overall best option for reloading. I have carried one in my pocket for the past 4 years and have never once had the rounds fall out unintentionally but always load flawlessly when practicing with them. People tell me all the time about bulging pockets etc, but when you're well over 200 lbs with the emphasis on _well_, this is never an issue as my pants are big :)
I've got 2 of the model 587 for my 7 shot 686 and they're great. One of them is a tiny bit finicky with the ammo though, if the case has a slightly larger rim they stick a bit and I've had times where it only dropped in 5/7 and the other 2 either fell on the ground or didn't fall at all. That being said, I just tested myself and I'm able to consistently eject the casings and reload using the speedloader in my pocket within 6.5 seconds. Sounds really slow to me, but this was the most reloading practice I've had in a long time
If only there was a way for guns to load automatically... that would be really ground-breaking.
Depending on how tight you wear your pants, they can be "bulky" and uncomfortable. I'm not that kind of guy though. The HKS is one of the simplest speedloaders to use and is fairly inexpensive. It also works with multiple models of revolver, which can be a money saver too. I will say that I've had an HKS dump/release the rounds while in a pocket. Kinda sucks, but you're then in the same place with loading the rounds individually as if carried loose.
@@TheSwoopDog Well there isn't. So we have to stick with what we have.
@@TheSwoopDog Perhaps you could place the rounds in some kind of spring loaded carrier that could be easily swapped in and out of the gun.... 😂
Thankyou for all the Time spent in the RAIN 🌧 plus following cleaning required 👍 ❤
One note on the issue of moon clips and the rounds sometimes wiggling around and getting stuck, that can *sometimes* be mitigated with after-market moon clips. Often the moon clips that come with a gun are, as was said, made out of flimsy metal. After market ones are often made out of sterner stuff. It's not a guarantee mind you, but I have had success in mitigating the "wiggling" issue, and been able to reload a revolver with less fuss using them. .
Great series Paul. As a "Revolver guy" I've found reload work at chest level instead of waist level helps with the reload to engage speed tremendously. Practice is key but keeping the gun at chest level, elbows in against chest allows for a straight extension of the arms and a rapid sight acquisition. Keep up the great work.
Finally, someone who knows how to reload without loosing sight of the target/enemy. I keep my moonclips in old prescription bottles with a plastic test tube in the middle to prevent them from bending. Great channel thanks for making your videos.
Paul is dressed utterly and totally practical this video. He can't get any more practical.
Tip for using the speed strips, put 2 rounds in the end of the strip, skip 1 slot, then another 2 rounds and leave it with only the 4 rounds total on the strip. The extra time it takes for the 5th round isn't worth it, and the spacing between the two groups of 2 rounds helps you with better grip and control over the strip when loading.
Paul is so devoted to this, he does it in the rain.
Director Paul Harrell's newest masterpiece: "Revolver Part II: The Eclipse of the Moon Clips."
Paul Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon Clip
Damnit, I was gonna say that! 😃
Can't wait for the director's commentary version!
Ozzy Osbourne Bark at the Moon Clips
Credence Clearwater Revival Bad Moon Clips on the Rise.
I would pay good money for an archive copy of all of Paul's videos. This is one of the most under appreciated channels on TH-cam.
Lucky gunner: “revolvers should be DA for conceal carry”
Paul Harrell: “why i conceal carry a 1860 army”
DA?
Edward Teach double action
I guess when I reload my Ruger 44-cap/ball I'm at a slight disadvantage .
@@JungleLoveOeOeO "And no blackbeard, double action does not mean pulling out another flintlock pistol and firing them simultaneously."
12ga is best sidearm.
Very cool. I don’t care about revolvers in the slightest and yet I definitely enjoyed the presentation. Thanks!
I love how low profile speed strips are. I don't always have room in my pocket for speedloader.
For me it was always a matter of just having 5 or 6 spare rounds in a pocket. Figured it was better than just carrying 5 in the cylinder. (I don't really CCW one anymore, it's more of a camping/hiking gun)
@@demoncleaner80 what makes a revolver a better camping/hiking gun than a semi? serious question
My J frame doesn't like speedloaders - rounds get blocked by grip when attempting to load. Speed strips for me on my J frame and speed loader on my L frame,
@@alphaspartan if you are in bear country a 44mag is almost required. there are only a couple of 44mag autoloaders and they are Expensive and Bulky.
@@alphaspartan Forgive my jumping in..fwiw: Gun always in battery, no failure to feed or to extract, easy re-strike on failure to fire [just pull the trigger again], fire from pocket doesn't jam gun, big calibers in 'normal' guns [.357, .44, etc], and practice std rounds for the same guns [.38spl, .44spl]. 5, 6, 7 rounds enough to get most jobs done...and no safeties. Look to confirm.
A S&W J frame is one of my common carry guns. I use a dump pouch (circa 1973). It is pretty flat on my belt and gets covered by the un-tucked shirt. Speed loaders in a pouch look like little hand grenades and in pants or shorts pockets they look like...I am happy to see someone. 🍌 The dump pouch is no more obvious than a magazine pouch. I was issued these when I began a career in LE in 1973. They still work good. I prefer the fold down drop pouch. Mine is a single and can hold 6 rounds of .38/357
Smokeless powder is here to stay, Paul...you should try it sometime. 😜
A quick glance or two at your hands while reloading is tactically sound, just as you might need to glance around to assess your situation. Just avoid tunnel vision. And by the way, have you seen a 1980's-vintage FBI 2x2x2 pouch? Rounds lean forward when the pouch is unsnapped, but the pouch cannot fold fully down because of an internal strap. No dumping. And cartridges are kept in pairs for easy 2-round loading.
Thanks, Paul. I was one of the people who asked about speed strips after the previous video. I appreciate the detailed response.
OOO, i'm home and noticed the notification! Lucky me.
I grew up in Oregon. I live in California now. Boy I miss Oregon every time I watch your videos.
Another excellent informative and entertaining presentation from my favorite TH-cam personality... I personally like the speed strips not for the Speed of reloading but to keep the rounds organized in a pocket which for me is better than a bulky speedloader or loose rounds in a pocket.
Love Paul. Only he can make a 15 minute video on reloading revolvers the highlight of my day
Double Action Revolvers are so nice.
FWIW, carry your moon clips in either a dump pouch or a speed loader pouch. The thin metal clips don't get bent like they might in your pocket. Another great video Paul!
There were no "yeah, butt" jokes associated with Paul's use of moon clips.
I'd like to think that he simply didn't see the joke when setting the video up.
moon clip jokes are eclipsed by the use of speed loaders
Hi Paul - I was one of your loyal viewer who requested a Part Two, and I really appreciate this additional double action revolver loading video. THANK YOU!
I’d like to offer some further - and hopefully beneficial - information concerning moon clips. One of my favorite revolvers is a four-inch barrel Smith 610, an N Frame that chambers both 10mm and .40 S&W. It’s simply a superb firearm: exceptional accurate, completely durable and reliable, and (like all N Frames) built to last for generations. In addition, it provides ammunition flexibility analogous to .357 magnum/.38 Special and .44 magnum/.44 Special, since it’s designed to fire both the 10mm and the somewhat less powerful mire common and less expensive .40.
Obviously, it requires moon clips. However, for years I have used RIM-Z polymer moon clips (available from Brownells and many other retailers). I have LOTS of experience with these polymer moon clips and I find them to be GREATLY superior to the steel designs that are far more common. Specifically:
1. They don’t break or rust
2. They can’t be bent or crimped (polymers return to their designed shape)
3. They are strong and hold the rounds firmly (even if dropped)
4. They are “tool-less” (rounds can be inserted and extracted with “finger strength” alone)
5. They have sufficient flexibility to “nest” two loaded moon clips, with the projectiles facing in opposite directions (this is a major advantage, since it permits twelve rounds to be pocket-carried in an cubic area that’s not too much greater than six)
I’m entirely convinced that they’re: (a) a LOT better than traditional moon clips and (b) a design that uses a specific - highly specialized - type of polymer to enhance substantially the utility of the moon clip concept.
Good info. If I didn't already have so many handguns I would get one of those 10MM revolvers.
Paul keeps the Tactical Timmy in me balanced and gives me excellent information about a more simple carry setup.
20 years in LEO in a department that issued revolvers with speed loaders, and a slightly longer time owning a Model 1988 S&W with moon clips, showed me that with familiarity the moon clips are hands down faster. Never carry ammo in your pocket, that is as poor a practice as I can imagine, use pouches on your belt. A pouch can carry 2 moon clips one on top of the other. A typical pouch used to carry 12 rounds in speed loaders carries 24 rounds in moon clips. Chamfering the chambers helps loading no matter what technique or equipment you use, but in particular helps with moon clips, though I never had it done to the 1988 because 45 ACP seems to chamber smoothly with moon clips, one reason they have stood the test of time so well. . I love moon clips so much I recently added two more moon clip revolvers, including the 8 shot Smith N Frame to my carry gun lineup. Having lived with moon clips I have to say the reasons some dismiss them are much more theoretical than real world. A warped clip is obvious, and with practice getting cases into and out of them is not the onerous chore requiring tools that it looks like to the casual user. And, you have that great DA revolver feature that every shot is also the practice of your failure drill, and primers are the single most likely cause of failure.
When I drive I look at the road but glance at the rearview mirror... can we do that a little bit with reloading?
yeah, I'm not a professional so I at least glace at my reloading to make sure it's lining up before dropping the rounds, then back at the target as I close the revolver before shooting
It does you no good to maintain eye contact with the bad guy is you're getting shot at. Situational awareness is crucial but ammo in the gun is the priority.
Depends how far your car is from the gunfight I guess 🤷♂️ idk how it'll help though
That's what I would do.
LOL.... yeah.. I I guess you have a point.
The amount of time it takes to reload a revolver, especially under stress, make me incredibly thankful for the invention of auto-loaders
When I carry a revolver, I carry HKS speedloaders. As far as loose rounds, I don’t see why you’d need to get all of the rounds into the cylinder in an active battle. Two shots would likely give you time to find better cover, and reload more rounds. Thanks for Sharing! 👍👍👍👍
I think I would have finished college if Paul was my professor. Your videos are always informative, well edited, and with enough "real world" situations for the masses to make well informed decisions. Thank you for the unbiased opinions that have helped me throughout the years. And that jacket, more iconic than Indiana Jones' hat
My PH level was getting a little low
Now you have your PH Balance back.
A high PH in this case, is definitely not basic.
that reminded me of "BP LEVEL DROPPING" for whatever reason.
Add some lime bud
During the 1970s and early 80s ,prior to going to auto loaders for duty ,our dept issued all officers dumper boxes for the duty belt and speed strips for the dumpers.
Dumper boxes came ,before speed strips.and in the beginning Bianci was the only maker of speed strips. They were designed to be sized to fit perfectly into the standard dumper boxes. Hence the size of the tab designed to pull the strip from the dumper box.
Our depts sequencw for reloading was to open the cylinder ,slap the ejecter rod while the gun was rotated up side down ,while continuing to look at the threat area.
Open the dumper box and pull out the speed strip ( pulling it out by the tab indexes it in the hand so you know where it and the rounds are) all while looki g at the .threat area.
Take a look at the gun while indexing the first 2 rounds . Once the first two rounds are inserted ,look back down range / threat area while peeling the strip for those rounds. No need to look at the gun while peeling .
Repeat 2 more times and only looking at the gun while indexing 2 rounds .
MOST of the time you are looking at the threat area while reloading .
The range officer ,during practice and qualification would on ocassion during the reload would direct the officer that the threat had re appeared during the reload after 2 or 4 rounds reloaded and the officer would then re engage the target with either 2 or 4 rounds reloaded . Also the "top -off " can be done w less fumbling of ammo w the speed strip.
"Fully Double Actionmatic"
Semi-Lever Bolt Action Pump-Fire Drums for the win!
I'm still waiting on a select fire muzzle loader. I mean, we've had them for how many hundreds of years without an auto version?
@@dELTA13579111315 ...Puckle gun?
The webley fosberry?
@@TheWolfsnack wasn't that fully semi automatic? (Joke)
I actually don't know much about them, I should learn
Between the popping of gunfire, metal casings, revolver cylinder and light rain - lots of nice sounds. :)
Revolvers are never going to reload as quickly as auto loading magazine guns. However, revolvers have advantages that autoloaders don’t. One is they can use different types and power rated ammo where autos can’t. You don’t have to hunt brass after shooting practice. They require fewer steps to fire when carried loaded. I think you did a great job explaining the advantages and disadvantages of reloading revolvers. I remember when police officers carried extra ammo in belt loops like cowboys, then came drop pouches and speed loaders. There is less chances of shooting yourself in the foot with a revolver than an auto. It takes more effort to do stupid acts carrying a revolver unless your name is Barney Fife. I don’t feel any more protected carrying a high capacity auto than carrying an old six-shooter. Speed strips are better than loose rounds and speed loaders are faster. Moon clips are interesting if you ever watched Jerry Miculek use them. I prefer using wheel guns for hunting because they provide better accuracy and velocity over autos. Nothing like an 8” barrel to tighten up long-range groups. I grew up learning to conserve ammo, and not wasting it. Shooting costly ammo just to see dirt fly is not on my too do list. I like watching your videos and enjoy seeing you test different guns and ammo.
all good information ,no ego trips or ramming opinions down the throat. just a competent firearms professional sharing experience thanks again Mr. Harrell
I still feel like speed strips are more of a "shoot 2 load 2" kind of tool. I also carry 2 different strips 1 with my edc ammo and 1 with ammo more suited for 4 legged critters in case I take in impromptu stroll through the woods I can swap ammo pretty easily... Or at least a couple of rounds if I don't wanna change out the whole line ul
Yup, snakeshot in one and 280gr. FMJs in the other with a cylinder full of low recoil hollowpoints.
@@JungleLoveOeOeO 1 g is usually enough pull to keep the good rounds from falling out
Excellent video. That was the first time I have seen the belt dump pouch in action and I appreciate the lesson.
Moon clips in the hands of Jerry Miculek hands seems to be the right combination. I use speed loaders myself.
certain people with certain firearms in certain circumstances... and then there's Jerry Miculek the exception to EVERY rule
Jerry’s s&w in 9mm has 8 shots
It might be the 45 round, but the moonclips for my SW625 simply fall into the cylinder. Nothing like this, which is why I'm thinking the size of the round and chamfered cylinders make all the difference.
Baller hat homie. I like it. Watching you I just realized that TH-cam probably doesn't allow you to monetize. In my opinion you deserve extra thanks for doing what your doing. Thank you. I sure do enjoy what it is you are doing here.
The “take away “ is it rains pretty much every time u get a camera out😁😁
you can also reload the revolver with loose ammunition, speed strips or speed loaders and still keep the revolver within your "workspace" while you look down range but still have the gun within your view. kind of a best of both worlds approach
Paul, have you seen *_Massad Ayoob Demonstrates the "Stressfire" reload for the Revolver_* video from Sept 2009? Might improve your revolver reload speed enough to make a significant difference. To be honest, I think he's using punch release speed loaders, instead of the Twist release ones.
Ah, the long awaited 'Part 2a' you mentioned earlier. And as always you don't disappoint. Thank you for another great clip!
Looks like (to me) that the speed strip might be useful for a “tactical partial reloads” by taking your eye off target for only a short time.
Just found your videos and they are much better than most of the mall ninja youtubers.
great video! I carried a revolver for years and used HKS speed loaders. Could you do a video on the 327 Magnum that would be awesome. It has similar ballistics of a 357 according to what I have read.
Similar bullet speed and pressure but much lighter bullets so significantly less energy.
It has been a long time from when I was on patrol. I used a dump pouch that didn't dump, along with Bianchi Speed Strips. I practiced with them to the point that I wore a couple out by ripping the rubber. However, they were cheap back then, too. I would look down at the gun, figuring that I would see from my peripheral if there was danger coming. Got fairly fast that way. Then the HKS speedloaders came out and I switched to them but still used speed strips for off-duty in the pocket.
In the end, it does come down to practice and familiarity with what you use.
Nice video and thanks for putting up with the rain to make it.
For a second there I thought the tree was talking. Then he pulled out his revolver and I realized he was just wearing camo.
I think a quick peek down can do wonders. The best part of moonclips are the uniform ejection. No round trapped. A group of competitive shooters, the Arizona Wild Bunch, basically proved that, with practice, the actual reload could be performed equally fast with a speed loader as it is the same arm motion as with the moon clip (around the year 2000). This for all except the Miculeks of the world
When anybody tells me that revolvers have a simpler manual of arms than a semi I always tell them the manual of arms includes reloading. Now I have a video to make my case. And handloading your magazines back home isn't part of the manual of arms.
Right.
I am a dyed in the wool revolver guy, started out on single actions...
Till I realized how hopelessly non tactical they were, no matter how fast my draw was, no matter how accurate I was, because the reloads were just way too many seconds long.
Upgraded to double actions and speedloaders, and felt pretty confident for a number of years...
Until recently.
Cannot stress just how much this simple video exemplifies all the salient weak points of a revolver. The reloads just suck, no matter how fast, practiced, and proficient you are at it.
I now run autoloaders and mostly that God forsaken polymer frame crap, solely out of practicality and pragmatic acceptance of reality. I can put twenty rounds rounds downrange on target, with another twenty on the way, before Paul could demonstrate getting his next five into the cylinder.
I hate math, and hard facts. But my mind has to rule my heart in this case. To me, nothing is sexier, more well balanced, and more functional than a Redhawk in .44 Mag.
But my FN, SIG, and Ruger's are vastly more useful in a real world firefight. Remember, we don't get to choose the time or the place, only the tool we walked into the gunfight with.
Carry good kit. Be logical. Keep the wheelguns for fun. But fight with magazines. It may save your life.
Revolvers are not obsolete, but they are substantially slower during perhaps the most critical moment of your life. Why die fumbling through a reload with moon clips, when you could tap/rack/bang your way towards surviving the encounter?
@bokudensuduharagmail
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I see you are also a man of culture...
@@reckmanD
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The head of security at my church carries a five round .38 in his front pocket, no reloads, no contingency plan. He is 100% convinced he won't need more than two rounds, ever...
My brother is a SWAT team leader, who has kicked doors for twenty years. He says all you ever want in a gunfight is more ammo...
Can't we all just get along?
I have been in precisely zero gunfights, and for some odd reason, would prefer that sum as a sort of lifetime achievement award.
Should that status ever change, I very much would like the ratio to be
BAD GUYS : 0
HOME TEAM : 1
Hence the concept of overwhelming firepower superiority vastly increasing the odds that the threat is stopped, and you still get to wake up the next morning...
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On the other hand -
Revolvers are like stick shifts... just more fun to drive.
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@@reckmanD
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The head of security at my church carries a five round .38 in his front pocket, no reloads, no contingency plan. He is 100% convinced he won't need more than two rounds, ever...
My brother is a SWAT team leader, who has kicked doors for twenty years. He says all you ever want in a gunfight is more ammo...
Can't we all just get along?
I have been in precisely zero gunfights, and for some odd reason, would prefer that sum as a sort of lifetime achievement award.
Should that status ever change, I very much would like the ratio to be
BAD GUYS : 0
HOME TEAM : 1
Hence the concept of overwhelming firepower superiority vastly increasing the odds that the threat is stopped, and you still get to wake up the next morning...
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On the other hand -
Revolvers are like stick shifts... just more fun to drive.
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Seeing Paul stand there looking at the threat for so long, you can see why a lot of guys would do a New York reload. That old school dump pouch was neat. Now a days a dump pouch is just a open pouch for dumping gear in quick. Like used mags and such.
Any way we could get some info on that dump pouch the viewer made? I’m interested in one to use while hunting with my .44 Blackhawk.
I travel with a super blackhawk 44 4 5/8 bal mags in deer sen. spcl the rest of time or a 1911.
Im gonna CONTINUE TO WATCH PAUL 🙏 😢
despite quick loading, my coat too has "button tug' in other words becoming smaller most likely due to washing.
I could say many good things about this, or any of your other presentations. I was impressed that you used a dump pouch made by a subscriber.Thank you, and please keep up the good work.
DA action revolvers rule.
yes, But single action on a DA/SA revolver is still more accurate. round count does count unless you hit the target after all
@@TheStraycat74 most can be staged fairly accurately and clean broke at moment of firing. Accuracy can be maintained.
@@ewetho true, but SA is still more accurate. I've tried bothways and my scores showed SA more than a few points a head... that MAYBE just me
@@TheStraycat74 Over the last year I've put an emphasis on improving my DA revolver shooting and at this point I can easily hit a 10x8 steel silhouette at 25 yards firing fairly rapidly. That's more than accurate enough for me, since an attacker will almost certainly be bigger than that, and it's highly likely they'll be significantly closer. If you put enough rounds down range in practice anything can become second nature. At this point I rarely shoot SA, when it used to be the only way I shot.
@@desertfox2020 Fair Enough. I shoot for score and for fun, I don't do nearly as many self defense drills as I should only because lack of funds makes ammo more expensive proportionately for me
I have gotten good at the speed strip and find I can reload fast. The speed loader is faster and I typically carry those but sometimes I carry both or just a speed strip if I don’t want it to print in the pocket too much. I love revolvers and carry one most everyday. Thanks for the good video.
I use speed strips with my Charter Arms pistols.
Nothing brightens my day like Paul’s dry humor... and shooting
Wet humor in this case.
Often wonder how secure the rounds are held in moon clips. Are they likely to “fall” out or get knocked out?
I use moon clips for my 25-2, need a tool to extract them without damaging the clip. They're not falling out.
P J: I bought moon clips for a old Colt1917 I got recently, and tom is right. They definitely won't fall out.
well made moon clips, no they are not going to fall out. Cheap P.o.s's? your mileage may vary.
Pretty secure. I use them extensively
P J, they snap into place.
Did anyone notice 44 special was dump all and reload dump all. Think Paul is a likes his 44 special more than the other revolvers demonstrated!!!!!,!
Okay, so you make a big deal about looking ahead while reloading, but reloading while looking at your revolver is clearly faster. Why not both? Any reason you can't hold the gun up near your face instead of down low?
at the range I don't see a problem with it, but if you MIGHT get into a firefight you will loose track of your target. if you are going to train for a firefight, train the way you plan on fighter or you won't.
Paul was a soldier, he fights the way he was trained, and he shows US how he was trained by not looking at the firearm and keeping track of his target.
Holding the gun up that way limits your dexterity and makes it hard to do the high skill tasks associated with reloading.
Paul always thinks of things that most of us wouldn't. That's why I view all of Paul's videos...
Puh, after seeing that, I would say Semi-Autos are the way to go!
For most people. Please note I like my auto loaders.
For some people revolvers make sense.
I have trained several elderly people who had never fired nor ever owned a firearm before.
The level of training for them to effectively use an auto loader is a process.
For those of us that grew up with auto loaders, remembering to take off the safety, immediate and remedial action drills become second nature with lots of practice. Without reinforcement training those skills deteriorate rapidly.
But for people who will spend much less time at the range and doing weapons familiarization drills, revolvers make much more sense. They can be taught to load point and shoot in very short order. Given the information provided on this channel most defensive shootings very rarely exceed six rounds. All a person has to remember to do with a revolver in a stressful situation is point and pull the trigger. In general no safeties to deal with and extremely few misfires, or malfunctions. Yes I am aware that there are malfunctions and misfires with revolvers they are generally much less common.
The elderly who did not have firearms when they were young might not have enough training to build up the muscle memory to clear a malfunction of an auto loader, or to remember to do it effectively and quickly.
Some may not have the physical ability to go clear the house like us.
They might need a walker or cane.
I recommend that if they hear something go bump in the night. Sit up and stay in bed. Grab your firearm and then point the gun at their bedroom door aiming about six inches above the door knob.. Call 911,(good use for Amazon echo) on speaker and stay on the phone with them until police arrive,
If somebody comes through that door without identifying themselves as police pull the trigger. If they keep coming pull it again. This is simple and easy to train.
Revolvers are great in this application.
Never experienced a revolver failure to fire. Semi autos I have.
If a double action revolver is loaded, it is basically guaranteed to fire. Semis have safeties, slides and you must chamber a round...
Any shooting I am likely to be involved in will be a speedy defensive action in a high stress situation. I want a simple tool. The Revolver provides that.
At home in bed, no extra mags or speedloaders in the nightstand; 6+1 .45 or 8 shot .357 revolver?
I would say that auto loaders may be great for you, but for others a revolver may be better. Before anything, though, I would say a person should spend some time shooting their gun at a range, drilling frequently and determining when and how it is likely to fail. If your revolver fails when it is dirty, or works unreliably with certain ammo, you can address those issues. If it has major inherent flaws that prevent it from being reliable, get rid of it and buy another gun. Light strikes, cylinder lockup, non ejecting cases, etc., all that needs to be addressed immediately. If your auto loader is picky about ammo, or sensitive to limp-wristing, or needs significant breaking in, or needs to be perfectly clean, you need to know that, as well as how to remedy common malfunctions. If nothing goes wrong, then yes, an auto loader will be much simpler to operate. But that happens if you get a double feed, or bullets nosediving in your mag, or you forget to take off the safety? S.O.L. I believe with a revolver, if something goes wrong, due to the simplicity of the mechanism, you will know immediately that all you have is a brick in your hands and react accordingly a few seconds faster than when an auto loader malfunctions and your brain tries to "figure it out". Either way, if you have a gun, get real training.
For combat well maintained auto loaders are state of the art. However for defence of your home or office letting an auto loader sit in a hide with a compressed mag or two and no maintenance for a decade and then risking your life on that handgun seems short sighted.
After watching your videos for so long, it was surreal for me to see you looking down at the gun during reloading! That's just not the Paul we've all come to know.
Two speed loaders and as many speed strips as you can carry! As I live in Virginia, this is unfortunately going to become my reality very shortly! 😠!!!
Go to the rally.
@@brobdingnagianone900 Lol! I'm there, bro!
Brobdingnagian One, unfortunately rallies usually don’t change much. It’s not a bad idea for a first step, but governments, and especially big governments, grow like a ratchet; rarely all at once, and sometimes looking like they’re getting smaller for a minute, but inevitably growing ever bigger and more oppressive. Rallies are no obstacle, nor are elections.😞
The good news is that once a sufficient number of people are fed up, you won’t need a rally or an election. If ten million Virginians stayed home and simply announced a giant collective middle finger to the state, it would begin crumbling. Molon Labe and that sort of thing. If ten million of you and all your likeminded neighbors knew each other well and agreed to defend each other, you wouldn’t have to, and the state would have a really hard time making an example of one of you.
There just aren’t ten million Virginians (or any other state) that value freedom over our behemoth nanny/police state. Yet.
(I’m in neighboring TN with family in VA, and I hope and pray Monday goes well! TN isn’t nearly as gun-friendly as I had thought when I moved here, and always seems to be on the verge of getting worse, with all our stinking meddling politicians trying to save the world one regulation at a time, as if that’s EVER worked. But I digress...)
No, your reality is very shortly going to become a fight for which having a revolver would make you... ill equipped. Please bring a (loaded) rifle to your rally. If everyone did, you might get somewhere.
desertfox2020, very likely true, sadly.
I am glad you did the speed strip vs free ammo, that seems to be the proper question. if you can use a speed loader it's the right answer. the speed strip seems to be the if you can't or won't use a speed loader option it's better than nothing
When can we expect to see the return of Paul's moustache?
No, don't give him that idea.
It's probably living somewhere out in the wild now, so maybe we'll get a hunting video one day.
Ruger makes an aluminum speed loader that has a smaller outside diameter so as not to bump or just be to large like other ones that are made by Rugar and some other manufacturers.
Especially! If you have put a aftermarket aftermarket grip like Houge. Those will make less room to move.
Just my SP101 experience.
Thought I would share.
Thanks Paul.
Best gun channel there is!
Next week; Double Action Revolvers Part 2b: Still Reloading
My Wife's EDC is a S&W 638. Thanks for showing that.
Like and commenting for your YT stats.
same
Good job Larry Hampton
Outstanding
Absolutely
Great cover Paul. When I first started my LE career we were issued revolvers and had to carry our extra ammo in "belt loops". We were required to polish the ammo for appearances. We were taught to remove 2 at a time to reload. A few years later the agency allowed us to carry Speedloaders but only in our pockets. The belt loop ammunition remained because administration thought it looked good. Thank God we went to semi-auto pistols a bit later.
WOW...:-(
If your concerned with reloading a revolver either carry a Glock or hit what your aiming at with the first six
Most commenting never have been in a gunfight. If you have to pull a gun and use it, a revolver is enough. 2-3 shots and its over in self defense
@@the_weed_in_your_garden9319 "If you have to pull a gun and use it, a revolver is enough. 2-3 shots and its over in self defense"
And by that logic not having a gun at all is perfectly fine because you won't need one.
The reason I carry is for the exception to the rule.
@@TheOwenMajor I don't see the logical connection actually. I would say by your logic of preparing for the exception, I should have an AR-15 slung on my shoulder and wear body armor just to go to the grocery store. But, hey. You do you. Enjoy your life
@@the_weed_in_your_garden9319
It's a matter of convenience sure. But for me carrying a modern semi auto is not a substantially greater inconvenience compared to the much more effectiveness it gives me.
Why not give yourself more capabilty?
I absolutely love my fathers LCR in 39 Special with the CTC laser grip on it. Fantastic j- frame revolver for self-defense !!!!!!!!! Another awesome video Mr. Harreill !!!!!!!!!
39 special ayy
Paul doesn't even use crimson trace
Excellent videos. I’m new to the channel and your videos are superb. No BS and everything that you say that is your opinion is backed up by trial and evidence. Too many videos on TH-cam are biased to what the channel owner chooses to carry. They make statements that have absolutely no facts or bearing. Not to mention these people almost always claim to be EXPERTS but don’t have any credentials. Thanks for what you do. It’s killer and reliable information I use to make choices when it comes to firearms and ammunition. Wish you did classes or were in my area.
He said dump pouch..... as always a pleasure to watch you demonstrate what I need to work on. Cheers and happy new year Paul!
Thank you Mr Harrell all of your videos are informative. My grip is better, now I will practice reloading.
I highly approve of how you focus on the target during reloads and hash out all the caveats and yabbits while trying all possibilities. Great points about dump pouches, I'll watch revolver guys on TV and see if I notice. Thorough and scientific, as always, Paul
I have to visit with Paul each time he has a new video. You Da man!
i hope you get better health wise Paul.. God Blee.❤
Thank you Sir, I allways enjoy your Videos.