Summary: 1. Four note shapes 2. Three note shapes 3. Whole tone descending root movement 4. Change keys not chords 5. Root shell pretty Bonus: - Understanding the form - Chromatic bailout
I remember hearing Jazz guitarist Mike Stern say when he was Rock/Blues guitarist and wanted to get into Jazz he took Giant Steps and spend a year work on it from every approach he could. Doing a really deep dive on one song like Stella or Giant Steps and can really a lot.
So, in summary (16:28), the most important things are : 1) World peace 2) Vaccine for the Coronavirus 3) Knowing the form of Giant Steps Amen! Love these guys!
One thing that sounds cool is to focus on the dominant 7 chord in a bar and play an altered dominant scale. So for the first bar you're playing D altered dominant over the Bmaj7 as well as the D and you can still hit a lot of chord tones plus it gives you that altered sound. Also allows you to focus on a scale rather than harmonically. Great video, guys!
Just the playing these two do in this video is insane. The fact they make these videos available to us for free defies all laws of capitalism in the best possible way. I learned so much today.
Love what you guys are doing! I am a session saxophonist, mainly for pop or smooth jazz. I have always struggled with blowing through more complicated jazz changes. You make it so simple!
Love this! BUT! These approaches are all great and super useful but they all reinforce the "getting kicked around by the changes" thing because it's SO vertical, which plays into the main criticism of this tune - that it sounds like an etude or exercise. I'd love to see you guys to a video on playing more lyrically / horizontally through GS changes. (I probably need to search through your videos as, knowing you guys, you've probably already done it!) Thanks again for the great content!
Easier said than done for me...but I will surely go for this!! Thank you for your super efforts Adam and Peter!! Also, I watched your duo piano live earlier and it was an awesome treat!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Just think Tommy Flanagan sight read Giant Steps on the recording session and turned out a very good solo. A testimony to his talent and also the cruelty of John Coltrane …
Nothing cruel about it. It was a recording date like any record date . If Coltrane thought Flanagan would not cut it, he would have called someone else.
@@Hiphopdabop I agree, and when you listen to that original, you can tell Flanagan was dragging behind in the form. Still, can’t take anything away from his excellence
Here's another one: the same whole tone scale, let's call it C, works surprisingly well over all the ii-vs in the tune so you can play around with alternating between the major chords and the C whole tone scale.
Such a great video, I love both of your guys approaches. I think too many people freak out when they try to play giant steps, it's really just ii-V-I's in 3 different keys. :)
Great hacks! Funny thing is Tommy Flanagan (keys on the original release) could have used any one of these hacks, because to my ear he was LOST on his solo.
Great lesson, although the 'hacks' in question turn out to be more like 'practical but difficult technical exercises you'll have to practice for many hours' lol. This tune definitely deserves its reputation
I'm a piano Noobie so this was so far out of my pay grade the bartender didn't even give me complimentary peanuts. I'll come back when I earn my chops. But I'm also colour blind and I had a hard time with seeing the black notes, especially with that blue-ish colour. If you could, a bright yellow or orange would be easier to see. If it interests you, I was a Chiropractor in Switzerland that had to change my techniques due to a shoulder injury and cut on too many times. I now have a FURS syndrome. But I got real good at treating other people's shoulders. And I'm in the process of putting out a video for exercises and self treatments for pianists. Low back but also shoulders and hands. Especially good for finger strength. Stay tuned.
THANK YOU Adam & Peter! Made my year! This should be number one, then as surely as night follows day, World Peace and Vaccines will surely follow... ;-))
You guys give hackers a good name :) What if you elongated each chord change everyother verse repeat...it adds a new melodic concept option & retains the progression structure.
How do you feel about the hack where you straight-up ignore the ii-V in the middle of the cycle and just play like a bVI-V7-I? For example the first passage being B-D7-G-Bb7-Eb - toss out the D7-G and just play B-Bb7-Eb. At tempo you're not gonna get caught by most listeners but your musician friends might tell you you're being a dick lol. Do you have strong feelings on that or no? Is it better or worse than the "JP Morgan" chromatics lol
right now I found this comment (originally about saxophone players): not only is it difficult for the musician to improvise at that speed, it's very difficult for the listener to listen at that speed! Sorry to say, but all those hacks lead to a style of playing that may be impressive, but not beautiful. Music must be beautiful imho.
"Everyone has to deal with it"! Big Coltrane is watching, so be ready! One of these nights the jackbooted jazz police will knock down your door in the wee hours demanding you play a few choruses. Should you fail to kill, they're going to torture you with forced listening sessions to John Denver's greatest hits! So practice, damn it! 😠
I like giant steps and I like Adam and Peter. They both play well. These short lessons are definitely not for beginners. Even intermediate players will find it taught very fast. To fast I’d say. Really advanced player students will have the most benefit. I certainly can’t play like these guys and don’t consider myself advanced. Probably more an intermediate player. Lucky for me I can pick up on a little of this watching there left hand movement and hearing certain chord qualities. So I get some benefit and I’m grateful. But I wonder really who are they trying to reach or teach. They certainly can impress one with their chops and that has its good points. But maybe someone can tell me what and who this is for? I’m sure Adam and Peter will never reply to comments. At least I’ve never seen that and I follow them always. Personally I would love it if they’ve would slow it down, go through a 4 note or 3 note RH pattern through a section of the tune form. Maybe a screen shot of 4 or 8 bars? Or maybe I’m asking for to much. If I new what they were trying to accomplish with these short lessons I would just shut up.
It's definitely smth for more advanced players. But on TH-cam, luckily, you can rewind, pause, slow down etc. So that will help The less advanced players. And of course each step of these podcasts takes a while to work on if it's a totally new concept for the player. If you want it more slow, guided and in depth you should sign up for the courses they have on openstudio!
Some of their videos have exercises notated along with the progressions. Makes it easy to follow. There is another one for Giant steps with an entire lesson packet. I would imagine people that like their approach will sign up for the courses.
Summary:
1. Four note shapes
2. Three note shapes
3. Whole tone descending root movement
4. Change keys not chords
5. Root shell pretty
Bonus:
- Understanding the form
- Chromatic bailout
That's just the surface...
@@Zxx459 That's the point of a summary
Ukeleles are cool man :( just tune em for blues and the shine
Thanks btw
9:42 is so helpful, also 16:17 for learning form
I remember hearing Jazz guitarist Mike Stern say when he was Rock/Blues guitarist and wanted to get into Jazz he took Giant Steps and spend a year work on it from every approach he could. Doing a really deep dive on one song like Stella or Giant Steps and can really a lot.
The ultimate goal of this age. The efforts are made to ensure that the right thing is achievable. This is purely genius.
Giant Steps is one of those tunes you could never imagine of until it's a real thing.
So, in summary (16:28), the most important things are :
1) World peace
2) Vaccine for the Coronavirus
3) Knowing the form of Giant Steps
Amen!
Love these guys!
One thing that sounds cool is to focus on the dominant 7 chord in a bar and play an altered dominant scale. So for the first bar you're playing D altered dominant over the Bmaj7 as well as the D and you can still hit a lot of chord tones plus it gives you that altered sound. Also allows you to focus on a scale rather than harmonically.
Great video, guys!
If everyone practiced Giant Steps harmonies for an hour a day...we'd achieve world peace! Two for one....
Tru dat brother
Nit really..3 hrs is more like it
💯💯
Врядли...придут дикари и сломают пианано
Just the playing these two do in this video is insane. The fact they make these videos available to us for free defies all laws of capitalism in the best possible way. I learned so much today.
The comical sidebars in between the master class tips and suggestions are pure genius 🙌🏾
YES, number 4 is how I finally figured Giant Steps out (back in the day)! Thanks guys, you are INCREDIBLE!!!
16:17 Such an awesome hack!!!! I really like that sound
Loved the stuff around 10:00!
Love what you guys are doing! I am a session saxophonist, mainly for pop or smooth jazz. I have always struggled with blowing through more complicated jazz changes. You make it so simple!
19:55-20:09 timestamped @Adam Maness
Love this!
BUT!
These approaches are all great and super useful but they all reinforce the "getting kicked around by the changes" thing because it's SO vertical, which plays into the main criticism of this tune - that it sounds like an etude or exercise.
I'd love to see you guys to a video on playing more lyrically / horizontally through GS changes. (I probably need to search through your videos as, knowing you guys, you've probably already done it!)
Thanks again for the great content!
Amazing how the quality of this channel improves video to video
Thank you Peter! Thakn you, thank you! ( to Adam too)
Easier said than done for me...but I will surely go for this!! Thank you for your super efforts Adam and Peter!! Also, I watched your duo piano live earlier and it was an awesome treat!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
You guys are the best!!
Cool! Congratulations Peter and Adam🎹
You guys are AWESOME! Thank you!
Very clear explanations on how all these work. Definitely trying the descending whole steps one. Thx!
You cats are killin’ it!
Men you are the masters of jazz education!
19:55 here you go, Adam. :)
2008 level chromatic bailout
Dear god that lick
You guys rock... i feel like I'm in university...and you both complement each other so well ....cheers
Just think Tommy Flanagan sight read Giant Steps on the recording session and turned out a very good solo. A testimony to his talent and also the cruelty of John Coltrane …
Nothing cruel about it. It was a recording date like any record date . If Coltrane thought Flanagan would not cut it, he would have called someone else.
@@Hiphopdabop I agree, and when you listen to that original, you can tell Flanagan was dragging behind in the form. Still, can’t take anything away from his excellence
"....and then the Eb sounds like it's forever..." Haha yes indeed!!
Excellent as always ! You guys are cool great musicians and teachers ! Thank you !🙂
Thanks guys! This is gold
Lol, the JP Morgan dig was on point. Too big to fail baby!!!
This is a great discovery!
This is great timing haha I literally looked at giant steps on jazz piano method for the first time yesterday, cheers guys
4:12 did adam just quote cherokee subconsciously?
That video is just incredible
19:56 for the lick
Best channel.
Whats the name of the into's song in 7/8?
Excellent guys thanks
Thanks, guys!
Peter Martin is really good.
This is fantastic stuff!! Thanks guys!!
Awesomeness here, thank you gentlemen!
Thanks that was bloody helpful
Here's another one: the same whole tone scale, let's call it C, works surprisingly well over all the ii-vs in the tune so you can play around with alternating between the major chords and the C whole tone scale.
Adam: i don't know if i could play the bass line and do this at the same Time...
Peter: yeah yeah so you got it 😆 19:53
Great value
Thank you!
Such a great video, I love both of your guys approaches. I think too many people freak out when they try to play giant steps, it's really just ii-V-I's in 3 different keys. :)
Thanks for this.
This is so funny and so useful!
Great hacks! Funny thing is Tommy Flanagan (keys on the original release) could have used any one of these hacks, because to my ear he was LOST on his solo.
Great stuff!
8:58 Whole tone movement
Bruh!!! This is nice!
Great lesson, although the 'hacks' in question turn out to be more like 'practical but difficult technical exercises you'll have to practice for many hours' lol. This tune definitely deserves its reputation
Love the content 🔥🔥
I'm a piano Noobie so this was so far out of my pay grade the bartender didn't even give me complimentary peanuts. I'll come back when I earn my chops.
But I'm also colour blind and I had a hard time with seeing the black notes, especially with that blue-ish colour. If you could, a bright yellow or orange would be easier to see.
If it interests you, I was a Chiropractor in Switzerland that had to change my techniques due to a shoulder injury and cut on too many times. I now have a FURS syndrome. But I got real good at treating other people's shoulders. And I'm in the process of putting out a video for exercises and self treatments for pianists. Low back but also shoulders and hands. Especially good for finger strength.
Stay tuned.
Thanx, Guys.
Sensacional!!!
That Killed me when Pete played "Have You Met Miss Jones." I've been thinking about Giant Steps all day and I kept hearing "
what is the piece of music that starts this podcast? I know it but can't recall what it's called (Corea, possibly?)
How many melodic phrases can be discovered using the Augmented Scale ..
Thumbs up for the intro alone. That was cool as fuck!
woooooow ! problem solving video here
I heard it's one of the hardest song to play when it comes to jazz music
19:55
THANK YOU Adam & Peter! Made my year! This should be number one, then as surely as night follows day, World Peace and Vaccines will surely follow... ;-))
Awesome
Would love to hear how Miles or Bill Evans would've played over these changes 🤔
Super hip
You guys give hackers a good name :)
What if you elongated each chord change everyother verse repeat...it adds a new melodic concept option & retains the progression structure.
Nice.
7:51 study this jdowns
How do you feel about the hack where you straight-up ignore the ii-V in the middle of the cycle and just play like a bVI-V7-I? For example the first passage being B-D7-G-Bb7-Eb - toss out the D7-G and just play B-Bb7-Eb. At tempo you're not gonna get caught by most listeners but your musician friends might tell you you're being a dick lol. Do you have strong feelings on that or no? Is it better or worse than the "JP Morgan" chromatics lol
Oder so😂😂❤
holy crap @20:01 hahahh
giant miss jones
19:58 “What…?”
The Jazz Police are on every set nowadays😂😂😂
They don’t care anymore , they’ll capture you wherever you’re at bro😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well that looks easy....
Awesome video, thank you! If someone could make a gif of Robot Adam with the ii-V-I that would be great haha.
A little bit of an advantage?....Hahahah!
Adam is probably not lovin' McDs - did he switch to plant-based diet? Dude you look great!
right now I found this comment (originally about saxophone players): not only is it difficult for the musician to improvise at that speed, it's very difficult for the listener to listen at that speed!
Sorry to say, but all those hacks lead to a style of playing that may be impressive, but not beautiful. Music must be beautiful imho.
👍
"Everyone has to deal with it"!
Big Coltrane is watching, so be ready! One of these nights the jackbooted jazz police will knock down your door in the wee hours demanding you play a few choruses. Should you fail to kill, they're going to torture you with forced listening sessions to John Denver's greatest hits! So practice, damn it! 😠
chromatic bailout, occupy giant steps!
Peas 4 the world!
Yea - mashed peas !
Comin ACHA
Ayy! First view, first comment haha
What's your comment, Bruh?
👂 🧠 📝 📱 🎼
But can u improvise melodically over these changes and tell a story ?
U can?
Annoying how they keeping talking and playing across each other!
Why is it when peter would start an idea the other guy would interupt him, this is counter productive.
Notice these guys never play the whole tune?
Giving advice is one thing is really playing a great solo..
I like giant steps and I like Adam and Peter. They both play well. These short lessons are definitely not for beginners. Even intermediate players will find it taught very fast. To fast I’d say. Really advanced player students will have the most benefit.
I certainly can’t play like these guys and don’t consider myself advanced. Probably more an intermediate player. Lucky for me I can pick up on a little of this watching there left hand movement and hearing certain chord qualities. So I get some benefit and I’m grateful. But I wonder really who are they trying to reach or teach. They certainly can impress one with their chops and that has its good points. But maybe someone can tell me what and who this is for? I’m sure Adam and Peter will never reply to comments. At least I’ve never seen that and I follow them always. Personally I would love it if they’ve would slow it down, go through a 4 note or 3 note RH pattern through a section of the tune form. Maybe a screen shot of 4 or 8 bars? Or maybe I’m asking for to much. If I new what they were trying to accomplish with these short lessons I would just shut up.
It's definitely smth for more advanced players. But on TH-cam, luckily, you can rewind, pause, slow down etc. So that will help The less advanced players. And of course each step of these podcasts takes a while to work on if it's a totally new concept for the player. If you want it more slow, guided and in depth you should sign up for the courses they have on openstudio!
Some of their videos have exercises notated along with the progressions. Makes it easy to follow. There is another one for Giant steps with an entire lesson packet.
I would imagine people that like their approach will sign up for the courses.
You’ll never be a good jazz player with this attitude
This isn’t even how u play giant steps it’s B D G A# D# etc
that’s the chord progression, they’re teaching you how to improvise over it
You had me, right up to the 2rd most important thing in the world being the Corona virus vaccine. That remark didn't age well, now did it?