The best cycling rain ponchos and capes to keep you dry on your bike commute

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  • After I found last year that a good poncho was the best way to keep me dry on those rainy bike commutes, I'm now going deep into the poncho universe to find the best model for a bicycle commute or your urban bike life. Here's what I investigate in this video:
    0:00 Introduction
    1:37 Vaude Cover II Poncho: amzn.to/3jLkift
    2:24 Cleverhood Classic Cape: cleverhood.com/collections/cl...
    3:57 Cleverhood Rover Rain Cape: cleverhood.com/products/rover...
    5:00 People's Poncho: www.thepeoples.co/products/na...
    6:25 In which I succumb to pressure and choose a winner, even though all of these ponchos have their merits.
    Here's my original video about finding the best way or staying dry in the rain: • What to wear in the ra...
    FTR: I paid for the Vaude poncho myself (although the link above is an Amazon affiliate link, which means if you use that link to buy one, I'll get some money). Thanks to Cleverhood and The People's Poncho for supplying test ponchos (the links above are not affiliate links).
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  • @christill
    @christill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    The windows in the hood are a great idea. They should do that in every cycling jacket. I’ve definitely been in those situations where you can’t look to the side and it’s super dangerous.

    • @officer_baitlyn
      @officer_baitlyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yeah i constantly have to argue with people that claim earbuds on bikes are dangerous
      just to then see them sporting full on battlegear on their bikes without any thought
      i feel looking around while driving is usually worth a lot more than hearing unimpaired
      otherwise i dont see how cars are safe at all / how having something over ur head + wind noise is at all different to headphones

    • @whathappenedto9374
      @whathappenedto9374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Pro Tip: If you strap your helmet over the ponchos hood and fix it in position you can keep your face and vision field free and dont need windows.

    • @christill
      @christill ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@doublewhopper67 We should really ban listening to music in cars then.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@officer_baitlynIMO, anyone who wears earbuds and listens to music whilst cycling is an idiot. Hearing is vital to staying safe. You often hear things such as other vehicles, sirens, even people's voices, BEFORE you see them. You can still hear sirens and loud noises such as motorbikes when in a car... if you don't play excessively loud music. But cars offer much more protection than a cycle, cars don't wobble when you turn your head. And unlike a car, which has several mirrors, a lot of bikes do not. Unfortunately a lot of drivers don't use their mirrors properly, and they play loud music too, so they too are idiots.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@christillBanning LOUD music when driving would be a good thing. In a car you can still hear a lot of things with no music, or music played at low volumes. But some people play it so loud, you can hear them coming long before you can see their car, whilst the driver inside is oblivious to everything going on around them. Ever seen those drivers who don't notice the emergency vehicles approaching, despite the sirens and flashing lights?

  • @mardomardomardomardo
    @mardomardomardomardo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    G'day Tom, Thanks for the great video. I got my first poncho last winter and have some personal observations for you to share. I have the Cleverhood "Rover" that you reviewed. I noticed that it does actually have a belt loop welded into the rear of the poncho. (it does not come with a belt) but you can add your own, so this helps stop the flapping at the back and helps to keep your back/bum dry. I also no longer put the thumb loops over my thumbs, instead I loop them over the handlebar grips, this allows me to indicate, ring my bell or use a tissue while riding, and the cape stays in place. Another consideration for winter is headlight and bell placement. As the cape covers your handlebars (and keeps your hands dry!) it also covers a handlebar mounted light, and muffles the sound of your bell. Just a couple of considerations and worth a mention for prospective cape users.
    Thanks again so much for your video's I appreciate your hard work!

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      This is great! Thanks for sharing. I think others will find this very useful.

    • @whazzat8015
      @whazzat8015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Nobody hears the bell , anyway. either headphones or phone distracting.
      If it rains that much put the light lower.
      I just yell at ém.

    • @fillyal85
      @fillyal85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't think about light placement-where would be a good place to attach a front light?

    • @whazzat8015
      @whazzat8015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@fillyal85 Prolly above the fender using the brake mount, below the bag if used.
      Serious night riders also use a head mount for near hazards, and this is where helmet fit on rain gear is an issue.

    • @swilhelm3180
      @swilhelm3180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fillyal85 Your helmet? Then it moves with you. And it darts around more and that is more noticeable.

  • @maaiker2977
    @maaiker2977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    As a dutch woman I cycle in rainy and windy weather A LOT. A rainsuit (including the pants) is the way to go. I tried a poncho but that thing is dangerous. It blew up and over my head while I was cycling next to cars at night....DANGEROUS. Never doing that again. The rainsuit will keep your legs dry as well.

    • @Cyber128
      @Cyber128 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hi I'm struggling to find an example of these, do you have any rainsuit recommendations?

    • @benmooredorencio6504
      @benmooredorencio6504 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

    • @JEEROFUKU
      @JEEROFUKU ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That’s why you have ( your poncho obviously haven’t) the waist and finger straps.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You were obviously doing something wrong, they're designed not to do that. Unless you didn't have a cycling poncho, but even an ordinary poncho can be held in place without difficulty.

    • @danielbrimm9330
      @danielbrimm9330 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You probably weren’t using the thumb straps

  • @dutchman7623
    @dutchman7623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Usually they work like sails, wind in the back; no peddles needed, wind in front; stay at home.
    For me rain trousers work best, together with a normal rain coat or leather jacket.

  • @HiltownJoe
    @HiltownJoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I was wearing a poncho with viewing windows in the hood for a long time, and compared to an opaque hood they are a game changer. The only aspects that rate higher for me are waterproofness and visibility to others.

  • @Shifter_Cycling
    @Shifter_Cycling  3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Wearing a rain poncho in soggy weather is a game-changer for a bike commute or urban bike ride. These are all great rain ponchos for different reasons.

    • @briansroute
      @briansroute 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love your videos, but what about the clearance if you use a helmet, I usually don't use it if I consider my tracks safe... But under rain I would always use it. Could you consider for future videos? Thank you, we are here following you awesome and honest work, congratulations!

    • @TheSJCieply
      @TheSJCieply 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@briansroute I have a People's Poncho and it works just fine under a helmet (though not over one)

    • @donttouchthisatall
      @donttouchthisatall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But you are not AERO!

    • @koborkutya7338
      @koborkutya7338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So true - one common reason for starting to drive is that its raining. Seeing me arriving every day in office clothing completely dry is a big argument.

    • @photoo848
      @photoo848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why are none of these rain ponchos made from reflective material? Being draped in grey tones when it's raining feels not very safe

  • @nordlyselsker
    @nordlyselsker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    One thing you didn't mention is that the Vaude's pocket also serves as a carrying bag for the poncho, and unless yours is different from most Vaudes, once you have turned it inside out and have stuffed your poncho in it, it also has a waist strap, so it's easy to carry around. And it doesn't take much room when stuffed into the pocket. I recently bought a Vaude Valero (which has sleeves - I am not sure yet whether that's a good thing), and it lives permanently in my pannier. By the way, "Vaude" is pronounced approximately "Fow Day". The name is derived from the founder's surname, von Dewitz, or V.D. for short - and those letters are called Vau and De in German.

  • @olhristov
    @olhristov 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I expected way more reflective elements, especially on the backs.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Reflective strips are great, but it's not such a big deal when you have proper lights and reflectors on your bike. Besides, you can easily add extra reflective strips if you wanted

  • @manwithhair88
    @manwithhair88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another good option for rain cover that we use in Europe is a rain windshield, a good example of it is sold by a company called Veltop.

  • @laerciofigueiredo3066
    @laerciofigueiredo3066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have a Vaude poncho. I like it a lot. It protects very well in the rain. It enable me wear the helmet under it. The absence of waistband does not affect me, since here is a tropical country, and the back free movement of the poncho helps to decrease the inner temperature. One positive thing about ponchos is that they allow a lot of different protection levels and ventilation possibilities depending on how you wear it. You can cover your entire body, you can leave your arms uncovered, you can put the entire thing at your back if it stops raining for while, and so on.

  • @Joy-xm5rg
    @Joy-xm5rg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love to see u collab with Not Just Bikes and Propel. Truly love your content. You deserve more subscribers. Love from an Indian subscriber.

  • @Colleenann61
    @Colleenann61 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’ve switched to a poncho for bike touring. The only thing I wish it had, is a clear window on the front that would allow me to see my Garmin when I’m following a route. It’s very annoying to have to stop and pull back the cape to see which way I’m supposed to go. Otherwise, the poncho is awesome.

  • @benjaminbrand3714
    @benjaminbrand3714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for the consistently awesome content man! I just bought my first cruiser bike and I can’t wait to put it to use!

  • @sagehiker
    @sagehiker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the education! And helping me with product selection. I already have zip-up rain pants for more extreme days, with my climate and needs, I realize I am a Vaude poncho rider.

  • @BlairdBlaird
    @BlairdBlaird 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    One thing that's missing here (and from most ponchos) is that they don't quite help glass wearers: the brims are usually quite small so not at all sufficient to prevent drops and projections from hitting the glasses... and staying there and progressively blinding the rider unless they have hydrophobic coating (which in my experience is quite rare for corrective glasses, and might conflict with other treatments e.g. anti-glare or anti-blue).

    • @soheiladehmassi7380
      @soheiladehmassi7380 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What should we glass wearers do while riding in rain?

    • @markfaulk5064
      @markfaulk5064 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve discovered that a baseball cap or visor works great for glasses. Just tuck it under the hood

  • @MsFrenchkiwi
    @MsFrenchkiwi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have a poncho from Happy Rainy Days which I've had for about 5 years and is great! They have some lovely fabric options which probably appeal more to ladies :)

  • @dandeangeli9860
    @dandeangeli9860 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video was the first I watched by Tom.
    I purchased the clever hood, rain poncho, and it has made a huge difference in getting out there in wet conditions.
    Thank you for your guidance.

  • @JamesMorganVTT
    @JamesMorganVTT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Solid video! It was your video last year that led me to my Classic Cape from Cleverhood. Which has been amazing and allowed me to continue to commute regardless of the weather outside!! The only variable I keep playing with is shoes. Sometimes Chacos and other times tennis shoes depending on the severity of the rain. Cheers!

  • @TyStyckify
    @TyStyckify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a Vaude, which is OKish. Bought a Basil Hoga poncho for a little more money than the Vaude and it wins in all categories for me. Super compact, light with stuff sack built into poncho and most importantly, it works. Leave it to the pragmatic Dutch to meet your biking needs without having to mortgage the ranch.

  • @FirstnameLastname-bp5cm
    @FirstnameLastname-bp5cm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Reminds me of riding on a tour in Vietnam. Because every time it rained the streets in town would completely empty for about 90 seconds while every scooter parked to retrieve a poncho from under the seat. We’d just get soaked and have a mini speed trial.

  • @christopherhindman7573
    @christopherhindman7573 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been using the People’s Poncho for a few years now. It’s kept me nice and dry in sideways blowing down downpour many many times. It’s always in my messenger bag or pannier and works very well. Comfortable and airy enough to keep you from sweating. Straps to keep the cape from flapping all over the place. Upper torso, head and legs dry each time - just get good full fenders for extra protection (and water proof riding shoes).

  • @jfouellette5174
    @jfouellette5174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi. I purchased the Vaude poncho. Its bag is actually the front pocket. Turn the pocket inside out and fold the fabric to fill it. The zipper is two sided and it has a strap to carry the pouch.

  • @broderfoder9348
    @broderfoder9348 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If you are riding to a fight with wind mills, the recommendation is to use a sancho poncho.

    • @kottelkannim4919
      @kottelkannim4919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wearing a Sansho poncho, fighting head winds, you stand no chance against windmills (which are designed for head winds). 🙂

  • @SeanThompson-ct3vx
    @SeanThompson-ct3vx ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love the channel. I'm in Wales (where it rains - a lot) and use a cape made by Carradice. They produce very solid old school waxed cottoned and canvas saddle bags and panniers - and also an old school waxed cotton (think Barbour jacket material) bike cape. Very solidly made and will last a lifetime, very effective, but unfortunately very expensive.

  • @extarv
    @extarv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very cool that you made a follow up video on that topic as rain was THE topic, I feared the most while biking until I got myself a pair of cleverhood rovers last year and I love them! I wish there'd be more detailed videos about biking-ponchos, because for me they were a game changer for everyday riding.

  • @markperry4474
    @markperry4474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cycle capes/ponchos are great on hot rainy days, especially in humid places.

  • @simongee8928
    @simongee8928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Interesting how many things are being 'reinvented'. I was using a cycle specific rain cape back in the mid 60s. It was oilskin with thumb loops and a waist strap. Nothing new then eh - ? 😁

    • @another3997
      @another3997 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Victorians would say the same thing to you. 😉 Capes have been used on bikes since the first "bikes" came along. Capes were popular long before then, so had already been adapted for horse riding, walking, sailing etc. I imagine stone age man invented the cape... kindly donated by some large, furry animal that also tasted quite nice. 😄

  • @WheelsonaBike
    @WheelsonaBike 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I bought the Vaude poncho based on your video and have found it very useful and convenient for commuting purposes.

    • @Pseudynom
      @Pseudynom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice side effect: Vaude is a company that focuses on social and ecological sustainability.

  • @AaronPinero
    @AaronPinero ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use the classic Cleverhood poncho and it does provide excellent coverage and waterproofing, but it’s warm. You will get a bit sweaty if your ride requires some effort or if it’s above 22deg C. I do love how it keeps me and my bike mostly dry (I ride a Brompton). I originally bought this on recommendation from another rider. Mine came with a bag that I can wear as a mini backpack - very useful if I’m worried it might rain.

  • @davidjohnston1374
    @davidjohnston1374 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a Poncho about 5 years ago and it's a French made one and whilst I don't often ride in the rain, I find it's great if you get caught. It's fairly long with good thick durable fabric, supremely waterproof, it's fairly long too which is good on a rainy day and only your lower legs and shoes might get a bit wet. In colder seasons, good I use long light vinyl motorcycle pants and wear old shoes that I don't care if I get wet and keep a fresh pair in a plastic bag in my panniers. The secret to Ponchos are that you get protected on the upper body but allows air underneath to prevent seating yet, the rain doesn't really follow the air flow so you keep dry underneath. The front part of the Poncho allows you to place it over the handlebars so that rain doesn't run down the top and drop over the front of your pants and helps the air circulate underneath, they really work.

  • @bigwheelsturning
    @bigwheelsturning ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just dug out my old backpacking poncho that I got back in 68. Last time I used it was in the Grand Canyon during a "deluge" in 89. After seeing your first video on the subject, I thought I would dig it out and try it on my bike. It's way bigger than any of the one's you show here, and it's bright orange, so nobody can say they can't see me. Can use it as a sail when the winds at my back.

  • @LoosLas
    @LoosLas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't know if so someone commented on the pronounciation of Vaude. It's a German brand and, I think, a spoken abbreviation: VD. So it's pronounced as 'fow' like in fowl and 'deh' like Denmark, but longer.

  • @SilvioFYT
    @SilvioFYT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This film was SO helpful! Thanks Tom ♥

  • @girliedog
    @girliedog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live in Florida, nothing beats an oversized lightweight rain jacket.

  • @JB-fe5tt
    @JB-fe5tt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for the video. I found your content to be always useful. Great job. 👍

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!

  • @uratasan
    @uratasan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for all the research you’ve done

  • @talkingmotanka
    @talkingmotanka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The thing is, if you live in a rainy climate like I do near Vancouver, you don't just "pick one". There's nothing wrong with having options for different types of weather. Sometimes in the summer, the rain can make you feel hot and sweaty under something meant for cold weather. In the winter, those flimsy ones won't give any added warmth. Also consider if most of your riding is day or night. If you get caught in nighttime traffic, will the clear sides on the Vaude help you, or the great reflectors sewn in the piping of the Cleverhood? So for me, it's not a choice of ONE, it's more like having a few to use depending on the time of year, weather, and situation. I think it's fantastic that you had those brands send those to you for us to view and make some decisions! Great review by you, and props to them for sending you the gear!

    • @another3997
      @another3997 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      For some people, cost is an issue. A lot of these capes or ponchos are quite expensive, and having several may not be a justifiable use of the money. You can wear warm clothing under a cape, as they aren't meant to keep you warm per se, just keep you dry. And vice versa in summer, wear cooler clothing under it. The cape is just a waterproof, windproof layer, and ONE well designed cape can easily cope with year round use.

  • @cheddaz86
    @cheddaz86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The hero we didn't know we needed

  • @Bananadoom
    @Bananadoom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome! I was kinda hoping you would do a video on exactly this!

  • @lizvickers7156
    @lizvickers7156 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A good British poncho. Yeah!!!! Greetings from the UK.

  • @lafamillecarrington
    @lafamillecarrington 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can imagine being blown backwards when the wind is blowing! And your legs and feet are still exposed. I'm going to stick to shorts, a light rain-resistant jacket - and a towel.

  • @nemohalperin
    @nemohalperin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really found this guide useful. Thank you.

  • @jasonjorgensen9888
    @jasonjorgensen9888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the poncho review, very useful! Id love a review of bike gloves, summer and winter, for knuckle and palm fall impact protection. Had a fall and hand road rash sucks.

  • @evgeniy19
    @evgeniy19 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the review. I would also recommend checking out ponchos from Decathlon. They are technologically advanced with a lot of features, compactly fold into their own pockets, come in a wide range of models and color options. Personally, I have a 900 Btwin model which I really love.

  • @jessegee179
    @jessegee179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the helpful review, great to see a UK product in there, I’ll check them out 👍

  • @carldawson5069
    @carldawson5069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well i ordered a cleverhoood rover last weekend. It rained Tuesday and it Fedex delivered on Wednesday. Of course i will need to learn how to fold it into the bag! 😳

  • @meowserita
    @meowserita 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you making the sherlock comparison with the cleverhood classic convinced me it really does have a classic inverness coat feel and honestly a big part of what i want in clothes is aesthetics. it is a bit anachronistic to go with the victorian vibes i love but anachronisms are amazing when intentional.

  • @anindanahiyan8818
    @anindanahiyan8818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wore white cotton shorts out because it was dry, it started raining, almost got reported for indecent exposure on the way back

  • @Korina42
    @Korina42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey, it's good to see you back from vacation(?). I'm such a weather weenie; when it really rains, I whip out my bus pass. :-)

  • @lukewarm4553
    @lukewarm4553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The most important thing for me is are fenders. I rode on a bike once in the rain and got up with a wet butt.

  • @bern2632
    @bern2632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!

  • @dominicvasturia9326
    @dominicvasturia9326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man four panchos! uou should have a shifter giveaway haha 😁

  • @jirivorobel942
    @jirivorobel942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I prefer a hoodless poncho combined with a helmet cover. We have plenty of tram tracks, manhole covers, cobbled streets, glossy paint and other slippery things to warrant always wearing a helmet when it rains, and freeing the head covering from the collar means more comfortable and safer riding.

  • @AllenMorris3
    @AllenMorris3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would go with a helmet cover over a hood. You will be able to see better and you will get better ventilation. You need to make sure your poncho will pour water down your back if you don't wear the hood. Fancy hoods can be an issue.

  • @AderNyland
    @AderNyland 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! I’m out here in Victoria and will need something this fall! Huge help.

  • @Brianrockrailfan
    @Brianrockrailfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video 👍

  • @paulmentzer7658
    @paulmentzer7658 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use an old US Army poucho. It is NOT reflective (A huge downside) but it has snaps to make a tighter fit AND you can get a "liner" for it that makes it warmer in colder weather (the liner has no hole for your head but that can be corrected but cutting your own hood or sewing in a hole kit you can buy for the liner).

  • @seductive_Octopus
    @seductive_Octopus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got the People’s Poncho and it’s … well … I needed Time to get used to. U get some 👀 weird looks if u using a Brompton and Poncho together.
    Both super uncommon in my area and People look but it’s super effective and comfortable. For my taste it could be a bit longer and maybe I go for the Cleverhood after ur Video.
    🤔 but the Price of it .. it’s quite expensive but it sounds worth it.

  • @paulkoestner1
    @paulkoestner1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The night visability would have been intresting too. Thanks for your vid!

  • @toodls
    @toodls 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    @shifter I’m in Ottawa Ontario. So the things that I find most difficult about returning to the bicycle. As nice as Ottawa has tried to make it a bike friendly city and it has hundreds of kilometers of trails. Transitioning from a car to more than just a recreational bicyclists I find finding your way around is very hard because you’re used to the north south east west roads. We’re bike roads will wind in and twist and put you backwards in your head next thing you know you’re going completely the wrong way. Does that make sense. The other thing is bike etiquette. My first ride out I was yelled at by I want to call my roadie biker guys are still competing for the Tour de France. I don’t know if I was doing something wrong but I got in his way and he didn’t like it anyway so I just try to stay in my own lane or wherever I have to be. I am enjoying your videos and information and at one point the first video I thought you were in Ottawa looks very similar anyway keep up the good work

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Thanks for sharing your experience. Here in Calgary, I've found wayfinding a big problem if I rely on official city sources (signs on the side of the road are no help at all). My only advice is to keep experimenting! Over time, I've found much better routes by trying alternatives. And map apps such as Google I've found quite helpful because they occasionally offer routes I wouldn't have thought of, and sometimes (not always) they are even helpful.
      Oh, roadies. I've found hardcore road cyclists to be more intransigent toward non-athletic urban cycling than almost everyone, including bike-hating motorists. I think the real solution is time -- everyday urban cycling is moving into the mainstream, which will make it more acceptable to everyone

    • @ghjgjihjgjyrdrgydsgr137
      @ghjgjihjgjyrdrgydsgr137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sorry to hear this, no-one should have yelled at you, least of all another cyclist. I got badly cut up by a guy with bicycles on the roof of his car, you'd think he would get it? You've got your people who are incredibly anti-social, and then you've got your people who are trying to enforce an imaginary order on the rest of us, for both of them I think it boils down to a 'might makes right' or 'divine right of me' view of the world where they won't make allowances for others. You didn't ask me for a tip so this is unsolicited, but I also returned to cycling less than a year ago, and I gradually learned to how to manipulate these people into granting me more allowances when I have to use the road. For me the problem is more drivers than other cyclists, or actually about 2% of drivers. My suggestion is to make yourself more visually intimidating by e.g. wearing an obvious camera, even a fake or non-functional one, and wearing a neck gaiter over your mouth and nose. Not that it seems and it's not for everyone, but nearly all of these people are being ruled by their emotions and I find silly stuff like that can help significantly, even though I also wear some hi-vis which would undermine it. Would not be surprised to hear that the man you encountered yells at other car drivers when he's behind the wheel.

    • @koborkutya7338
      @koborkutya7338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't give up - I picked up an e-bike partially due to headwinds. Roadie bikers can do a favour to themselves, never mind them. Just go your way, find your track and ride your bike. Thumbs up Todd.

    • @tconnolly9820
      @tconnolly9820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is a substantial element of the "roadie" fraternity who cycle only for performance and literally seem to despise everyone else who doesn't share their priorities.
      Slightly different but I know a really nice guy who has spent ten's of thousands on really expensive bikes. Does the 100km+ weekend group ride plus his own solo rides in between. Spends a couple of hours forrest riding at night.
      But he has never once rode a bike the 8km to work or as much as ever picked up a litre of milk on a bike. He's put up far more mileage on two wheels than he's ever driven in his car but he's never used a bike to actually save driving anywhere by car. Bike's are only for sports, fitness and recreation and not for anything utilitarian.
      His whole life revolves around bikes but in a completely different way than it does for me with one workhorse bike, a trailer and a variety of assorted bags, racks and panniers.

  • @foitzer4839
    @foitzer4839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Riding on painted lines in the rain gives me inner anxiety.

    • @C0deH0wler
      @C0deH0wler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not me. Must be because we have anti-slip paint here in New Zealand. Same with the green paint you see occasionally in cycle lanes. Not sure about this paint tho. Personally, I'm more concerned by shared-paths that use pebble concrete. So many bad experiences, lol.

  • @mtbboy1993
    @mtbboy1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never understood the point of ponchos and capes. but as a mountain biker, for MTB it would be stupid. but just for riding normally, on paths and roads, I would get completely soaked.
    I do this:
    waterproof jacket, now I have a mountainbiking specific jacket from Endura.
    I use liner gloves, nitrile gloves for wind and waterproofing size M liner, if it's not too cold I wear medium glove and thin liner, if very cold I wear size large glove with thick liner. the nitrile glove can easily be taken off if you don't need water and wind proofing and want more breathable glove.
    To keep feet dry I recommend to use gaiters or small garbage bags wrapped around the ankle, heel.
    Waterproof riding shoes
    Waterproof trousers
    I use a Windstopper buff, it keeps rain out, I never get it soaked, so did not get anything waterproof, but I also can use the hood on the jacket.
    So I can step in puddles, get blasted with water and stay dry.

  • @FlorencioHugando
    @FlorencioHugando 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Very useful

  • @dependrarana4564
    @dependrarana4564 ปีที่แล้ว

    so nice

  • @charles1598
    @charles1598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you fit a helmet under the hoods?

  • @robbi27
    @robbi27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good topic

  • @jimbojet8728
    @jimbojet8728 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used a poncho a couple of times, but not to wear whilst riding, I just don’t like them, but when you stop because it’s bucketing down. Chuck over a poncho and get under a tree/bushes and life becomes bearable again.

  • @granthw4993
    @granthw4993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    For unicycling I find a mix of rain poncho and a rear fender has been great for me. Besides that if the weather is above 20 I just ride in the rain because it's cooling but below that a mix of splash pants/fender/ jacket has been doing well when I was cycling in the before times.

  • @magnusalferes1143
    @magnusalferes1143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "poncho palooza" earned a like

  • @gstrdms
    @gstrdms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4uCycling's REACH anorak poncho is one of the best under 50CAD. And it also collapses itself into it's front pocket for extra portability. Just DO NOT machine dry it as it will melt the inner hydrophobic layer.

  • @r.d.e.2803
    @r.d.e.2803 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid.

  • @Welther47
    @Welther47 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of your better titles. Not so click-baiting as many of your other ones, Ex. "why you should something". Tip: Don't make your titles a question with words like why/this/you/should/[number] mistakes.

  • @markswishereatsstuff2500
    @markswishereatsstuff2500 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a big fan of black while hiking, but riding a bike, I am blaze orange or road worker yellow vest. I would wear that on top of these ponchos, maybe it would help with the aerodynamic drag.

  • @kottelkannim4919
    @kottelkannim4919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A 250$ (shipping to the Near East and 17% VAT excluded) rain poncho, its size does not matter, would cast a giant shadow on my 4y old 400$ (current MSRP 560$ ) bicycle. 🙂
    Non of these allow the rider to signal. If you search TH-cam for a different idea, you may come across "Der perfekte Fahrrad-Poncho" (which is not available, sadly).
    Your video is helpful as usual. Thank you!

    • @juliatample
      @juliatample 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you find one similar?

    • @kottelkannim4919
      @kottelkannim4919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@juliatampleI settled with Decathlon rain gear (trousers and jacket). I also bought rain cover for my helmet (aliexpress) and added a seat stay suspended long ass-saver (aliexpress, again), and a down-tube front fender (made by Zefal) intended for bicycle with exposed cables along the downtube.

  • @ChrisBFerguson
    @ChrisBFerguson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just ordered the People's Poncho after watching this video.

    • @tconnolly9820
      @tconnolly9820 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you get it?
      Many other people have commented that they are not reliable. Or even scammers!

  • @ErossaanBooming
    @ErossaanBooming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you just took away my biggest fear for starting commuting by bike: that is rain

  • @blake-gl4wn
    @blake-gl4wn ปีที่แล้ว

    I go with a good rain jacket, polyester shorts and crocs. It’s hilly and I don’t have mud guards.
    A poncho seems good for cruising round flat sensible Dutch bike infrastructure

  • @grandadslifehacks8992
    @grandadslifehacks8992 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tom, I know it is not a specific cycling poncho, but the Mac in a Sac packable poncho looks like it packs smaller. Also looks great is the FROGG TOGGS Ultra-lite2 Waterproof, Breathable Rain Poncho.

  • @miyclops
    @miyclops 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks! Perfect timing too. Rainy season here in the Philippines.
    Tbh I just wear dry fit clothes and just let it rain on me. After it stops the hot air while biking just dries me up lmao.

    • @happyhermit8802
      @happyhermit8802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It gets to be 40C where I work some days, getting soaked on the way home feels great and it's a pre-wash for my clothes. :)

    • @bathedinshadow
      @bathedinshadow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Try that in Vancouver BC in January!

  • @pedroferreira94
    @pedroferreira94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do the lateral windows on the hood of the Vaude poncho work well?

  • @rbranch234
    @rbranch234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve been using the People’s Poncho for a while and definitely agree about ponchos in general.

    • @j.r.1153
      @j.r.1153 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Helmets dont fit under this Ponchos.

    • @rbranch234
      @rbranch234 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I wear mine over the hood so the bike in lights can be seen

  • @gregor-samsa
    @gregor-samsa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great. A math how often it really rains would be interesting...

  • @RodrigoeBeta
    @RodrigoeBeta 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you able to fit a helmet under the hood of the Cleverhood classic?

  • @EthemPekin
    @EthemPekin ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Any tips on how to use the Vaude effectively in windy rain condition? Do we use the hand loops as fixed to the handle?

  • @ondrejc55
    @ondrejc55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was wondering about front pocket on People's Poncho. Is it big enough to store poncho in it after You stop using it?

  • @dudesayHEY
    @dudesayHEY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Basil Hoga bicycle rain is around 60 USD and it seems decent, I don't see much people reviewing them sadly

  • @peterlarsen5194
    @peterlarsen5194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Interesting! I didn't know there was such a thing as a rain poncho. I have questions: 1. How do these things interact with a helmet? 2. It looks like the poncho would mask a handlebar-mounted headlight. What do you do about that? 3. Are they available in hi-viz colors? The retroreflective material is nice for when it's legitimately dark out, but wouldn't a hi-viz color be better for low-light daytime use?

    • @rosecitytid1631
      @rosecitytid1631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I just ordered a Rover poncho from cleverhood, and they have a nice hot pink one and a kind of neon orange, which I'm pretty sure only females can tell the difference between the colors, tbh. They look the same to me but are different color options, so I assume they must be different. Handlebar mounted headlights may work just above the wheel or on the fork. Since I just ordered it and have not received it, I can let you know about the helmet once I get it. Assuming you didn't already get one.

    • @peterlarsen5194
      @peterlarsen5194 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rosecitytid1631 Thanks for the input. I haven't bought a cape ( not sure if I will), but I look forward to hearing about the helmet fit.

    • @daffodil2067
      @daffodil2067 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rosecitytid1631 so how's it fit?

    • @rosecitytid1631
      @rosecitytid1631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@daffodil2067 it works, it is hard to do hand signals and does not fit over helmet but I do stay dry

    • @kb_100
      @kb_100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's a European brand called GoFluo that does high viz and reflective ponchos. A bit pricey though and I'm not sure if they deliver outside EU.

  • @josehumbertolozada9622
    @josehumbertolozada9622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, should you wear the helmet under or over the hood?

  • @mfortier1
    @mfortier1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi ! I'm french so i tried in english .
    I just find your chanel and look the video on winter bikes
    I have Marin presidio 3 carbon drive belt . For few winters i was very happy but last winter i have problem with the belt because the salt in winter ..do you have tips ?
    My belt is the regular one but theres one by gates a red or blue belt for winter do you think for salt its good ?
    Thanks and you have a new fan

  • @rabomarc
    @rabomarc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Btwin 900 poncho from Decathlon. I guess not available in North America. Cheap and good quality.

  • @RichardsGaySon
    @RichardsGaySon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you think waterproof pants are also necessary for commuting in heavy rain or is the poncho enough?

  • @morganvaughn863
    @morganvaughn863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there one you'd recommend most for us tall folk?

  • @pwood5733
    @pwood5733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did wind affect balance in the poncho ?

  • @Haggan514
    @Haggan514 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you use to protect your shoes from the rain while cycling?
    I have custom insoles that cannot get wet otherwise I’m paying a mini fortune to replace them.

  • @glennpettersson9002
    @glennpettersson9002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was going to mention backpacks but they get protected too👍

  • @JamesTsividis
    @JamesTsividis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How well do these protect your legs from rain?

  • @JuliusSDeLaCruz
    @JuliusSDeLaCruz ปีที่แล้ว

    Which of these works well if you are wearing a backpack?

  • @MusikCassette
    @MusikCassette 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    low cost is a major selingpoint because eventuely you will rip it. On top of that i like to have a Poncho in a bag that is attached to my bike at all times. So this one needed to be really cheap.

  • @ian71x96
    @ian71x96 ปีที่แล้ว

    How easy is it to make hand signals while wearing one of these ponchos?

  • @underbikedoverconfident1142
    @underbikedoverconfident1142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Something that surprises me is the size of these poncho's when packed up in a bag they are quite large and my pannier bags aren't that big. I'd prefer something that fits in a large water bottle but suspect that it's not feasible after watching this.

    • @dominicvasturia9326
      @dominicvasturia9326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I feel like showers pass has to have something like that for you.