Soundcraft Ui24r DAW In and Out
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2019
- Routing the Soundcraft Ui24r for use in a DAW or live plug-in host.
Other Ui24r Videos:
Pt. 1 - Routing and Virtual Sound Check: • Groups - Part 1 - Setu...
Pt. 2 - Aux Mixes:
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Pt. 3 - Sub Groups:
• Groups - Part 3 - Sub ...
Pt. 4 - VCAs and Mix Groups:
• Groups - Part 4 - VCAs...
Pt. 5 - Parallel Compression on a Subgroup:
• Groups - Part 5 - Para...
Pt. 6 - Matrix Mixes:
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Very clear, and well explained. Thank you for taking the time to post this.😎
In 44 seconds you finished my great question: why couldn't my DAW read the input from the channel 1, 2, 3... that's because the hardware inputs start from 11 to 30! Now everything works! Thanks a lot|!
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El mejor tutorial, claro, conciso y específico! Thanks a lot Pal!!
very good information ! thanks .
I will watch all of your videos !
this video is a lifesaver, just got my ui24r two days ago and trying to work this with my daw was a complete nightmare coz i didn't understand how the usb audio signal path worked :D
thank you!!
Thanks Ben - this is was I was looking for.
Thanks so much for this video, Ben!
GREAT explanation! thank you soooo much.
This is a fantastic video
fantastic! we just say „Now we know!“ 😎👍
Awesome vid! very well explained!
Glad it helped you!
Great video. Thank you
THE FIRST 1MIN OF THE VIDEO AND THE CHARD ANSWER ALL MY QUESTION ,i TOO STARTED AT 1
Dope! Thank you
Very well explained :)
Oh, man. Thank you for covering this. I had NO IDEA this thing would record the stereo bus on channel 1 and 2 in your DAW and then the auxes on 3-10. That is so backwards, imo. Wow.
Well I think while it confuses a lot of people that it makes a lot of sense. If you are just looking to make a quick stereo recording of your whole mix, it is 1-2. The individual channels then work out so they are just the channel number +10. Once you understand the thinking it is logical just not what most expect.
@@EaslerMedia It makes sense IF you know. It's buried in the manual and is not intuitive whatsoever. It cost me a multitrack recording over the weekend lol
Very useful video! Thanks, Ben! Great job!
And here is my question:
I'm using my DAW (Ableton) with UI24R for backing track and click along the live playing stuff with the band. When I'm routing it to a stereo (linked) channel in to the ui24 I don't have gain control anymore. It is obvious due to your clear explanation. But, it there any way to have it like "pre", not post..because I have very pure levels from the Daw routing it to ui24. I also use the click from DAW on separate channel so the musicians have it in the in-ear monitors and not in front. But in the aux we have very pure, low levels.
Any chance to have DAW in the UI24R with a gain control channel?
Thank you forward!
Georgi,
Thanks so much for saying at 1:10 "This routing is fixed. You cannot change the output routing from the Ui24r". That's what I needed to know.
Just curious if you know why they decided to do this? It seems like it would be more logical to do 1-20 to match the hardware input numbering and then route the auxes etc...for 21-32.
I am not exactly sure why. Either way works and it probably would have been less confusing for some but at the same time maybe they thought a lot of people would just want to record the mains so they made it 1-2. Someone may have also thought it was more logical because the Masters + Aux fit neatly 1-10. I am not sure but it does make sense, just maybe a different way of thinking than what some expect.
@@EaslerMedia My guess is that this is the most logical. We, as humans, don't always think in the most logical fashion so we "redesign reality" to make it fit our heads.🙄🤣😎
Thanks for answering some of my questions. I'm wanting to route dry AUX channels to Logic Pro X, mix with presets then route back to UI24, then input the channel to video switcher for a livestream church service. Main mix will be FOH/Aux mix livestream. FOH sounds awful for livestream. Is my concept and thinking correct? Thanks
That would work. You may want to experiment with maybe just putting some room reverb on the masterof a post fader aux mix and seeing how that sounds before getting too complicated.
This should resemble your mix in the room a bit better. What you are proposing offers an addition level of flexibility but adds a bit of complication so you'll just have to balance what is worth it!
great video just have one question, How can I send inside of my daw send output signal out to the Aux 1-8 on the UI24 like basically a monitor mix . like able to pick and choose which track inside my daw I send some signal to my axes from my Ui24 , hope I made sense.
Hi! - You have a few approaches here. The Ui24r is really nice for this because you can set the monitoring up however you want and create custom mixes. Option 1 is send back each track to a separate channel - example -set output in your daw of track 1 to output 3 of your interface (Ui24r) and then patch on the Ui24r USB-DAW 3 patch to channel 3- 2-4-, 3-5 etc. (or whatever convention you want - I started at 3 leaving out 1-2 for mains but you could move them to 31-32 if you want) and then route those channels to the aux mix however you would like (most likely set to pre-fade). Option 2. You could also send multiple specific tracks to a given output - example - all guitars are out 3, all keys out 4, etc. Hope this helps. Let me know if that is unclear.
Hello! i just got an Ui24R. I try to use it with Pro Tools Artist. As you explained, the phisical input 1 (combo XLR Jack) is giving signal in PT. That is working up to input 6. After that, from input 7 up to 20 and the 2 RCA is giving no signail in my DAW, even if in my UI control i have signal on those channels. Can you help me please? I want to use 7 mics on my drumkit, from input 11 (that should be in 21 on my DAW) up to input 17 on my Ui24R. Thanks in advance!
Hi Ben, very well explained! Thank you.
You are mentioning that the Soundcraft Ui24R can be linked with Live Professor? Do you have any videos on that?
Or any experience regarding FOH latency in a live context? I would like to use Live Professor to do some mastering in a FOH context.
Hi Karel, It can be used with Live Professor or Waves SuperRack Native. The issue in doing this is the latency you mention since this is really only practical over the USB interface. I would not recommend using it in a live situation unless you mean as an FX bus for things like delays and reverbs where latency is not as critical. You say mastering so I assume you mean master bus FX which I would not recommend. Danny Olesh has a video explaining the process using the predecessor of SuperRack (MultiRack)
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Hi, Thanks for the video.
one question: can i send the signal already processed in the Pro Tools, to the auxiliaries(slot3,4,5...)?
for each musician to listen to their own mix, already with the effects of PT?
Did you figure out a solution to this?
Hi, thx for the video. How would you hook this up, if you already own an UAD Apollo but you want more inputs for Live-Recording? Using the Apollo Pres with Console in Standalone mode running into the Ui24 afterwards? Is it possible to combine them as aggregate device in Mac OS? cheers
Hi Felix, glad you liked it! So you can do either of the options you want. If you just want the color of the Apollo pre, then yes, just run it into the Ui24r. That won't expand your channel but give you the preamp color you may want. However, an aggregate device is also possible and quite easy for Mac OS. Just plug in both devices, open the application Audio-MIDI setup. On the bottom left hit the +, then "create aggregate device." You will be able to see how the channels will be numbered in the aggregate device, give it a name, and then choose that as your interface in your DAW when you are ready to record.
Great video! How did you get Mix and Gain panels in the same window? My GUI looks nothing like that.
Go to settings - local - big desktop mode. Zoom out in your browser settings until it fits nice. Over on the right side of the GUI you can choose what is on the upper half. It's a great feature and makes a much nicer and faster GUI.
@@EaslerMedia Found it. Fantastic thanks!
Great explanation. Wondering what view you use. I cannot get gain and mix faders on same screen and did not find any hints to that.
You want to go to Settings (wheel icon) - Local - Big Desktop Mode for mix. Once you do this, it will probably be very crammed. You need to zoom out on your browser settings until it fits nicely. Normally somewhere between 75-85% depending on your screen.
Ben, I'm coming to this rather late, but like many others here I'd like to thank you for the information provided, especially the table showing the routing of the Ui24R outputs to the DAW. I'll be using this to route audio to OBS for live streaming a church service, but I assume the same routing holds true. Your chart show only AUX 1-8 being routed. We would really like to route AUX 9 and 10 too. Can these "hardwired" routings be changed by patching Masters to Cascade Outs? If so, this would allow us to route all ten AUXs to the slot of our choice.
Thanks again for this video. I'm working my way through your others while waiting for our Ui24R to arrive.
The cascade outs are used for routing to another Ui. Maybe I am missing something here.
I’m getting closer to understanding... from Logic back through ui24 for additional tracks, can I route my Stereo Output to a set of channels? Or do I have to route each channel to say 15&16?
And then how do I patch / hear my already recorded tracks for overdubbing?
That part of the video goes too fast for me.
So the Ui makes monitoring extremely versatile and you can do whatever youd like in terms of routing but the easiest way is to do your first option which is to route your stereo channel to any pair of channels on your ui, so just route DAW 1-2 to monitor your mix through your mains. To put this in your headphones you can simply monitor your main mix through headphones or route a separate bus where you route your headphones as the output. You can just use a matrix mirroring your main LR which is simplest or you could route all of the channels from logic back to separate channels on your ui and make a custom monitor mix. This is probably unnecessary in most use cases but you can do whatever you'd like within the channel count.
Hi Ben , great video. What DAW were you using as it looked like GarageBand. In trying to use GarageBand I have found you cannot dig down into The I/O channels only channels 1 &2 on the output side.
It is Logic which Garage Band is based on. I believe you are right that this is a limitation of the cheaper Garage Band offering but I could be wrong.
Ben , great video. Few questions for you. I want to record my band, at practise and maybe live. The USB, I get. But, routing to a DAW, not so much. I have a Mac, the trash can and or a lap top. I use Pro tools and an Apollo X8, as an interface. Now, how do I get into the trash can? Or do I go into the Apollo! And, if Im recording live at practise, do we need all to be wearing headphones? Can I use the aux outs into IEM? Thanking you in advance. Peter
Hi Peter - The Ui24R has a built in audio interface so for most purposes here, you will NOT want to use your Apollo as that would be going into a second interface. You want to use the USB output found on the side of your Ui24r to a USB in on your Mac. On Pro Tools, you will simply choose the Ui24r as your audio interface and set each channel to the appropriate input according to the chart in my video. You do not need to wear headphones for a live recording assuming you are all amplified in the room and can otherwise hear each other. Yes, you can easily run any aux into an IEM. Just set up the patching so the aux is patched to the output your IEM is plugged into.
@@EaslerMedia Hey Ben. Thanks for the response. Will try it. Let you know.
How did you get those display settings for the soundcraft mixer?
All of my faders/channels are in a single row, and I dont have the master eq above all the faders either.
You need to enable "Big Desktop" mode. This is under settings - local. You will most likely also need to zoom out on your browser so that the faders don't fall off of the page in this mode. It has alternate views found on the right side and is really a great feature that makes this mixer incredibly user friendly.
@@EaslerMedia 😲😲😲
Yeah, this thing is awesome.
Hi Ben, thank you so much for this video. I am a newbie in Soundcraft ui24r and DAW. Most of the online articles/videos didn't clarify the input channels from ui24R into DAW. I find your video is very easy for follow and understand. I do have question about recording with recording live with ui24R and DAW: I have 2 existing audio tracks in Ableton Live 10, I want to play those tracks and recording my voice from ui24R into Ableton Live 10. Can I be able to playing and recording and be able to hear my recording in real-time back in ui24r (using head phone).
Hi Rodney. Yes! To hear your DAW through the Ui24r, you will want to route your DAW back through the Soundcraft. The DAW should default to output 1-2. Set that up to return to a pair of channels on the Ui24r which I describe around the 7:20 mark I believe. You can then set that up to only come out of your headphones rather than the main speakers if you would like by sending it to the aux which your headphones are set to on the Ui24r. I have another video about auxes if you don't know how to do that part.
Hi guys, thx a lot for this video. Is it possible to access my outboard gear (analog eq and compressors) via the i/o plugin in Logic and the aux sends on the soundcraft as outputs? Or how do I have to route my signal chain to, say, send my drum bus in logic to my outboard gear connected to the soundcraft and then back to logic? I tried the whole afternoon but can't wrap my head around it. Thx a lot for every help!
Hi Michael I tried to respond earlier but not sure what happened to it so sorry if two show up here:
This should work something like this
1. Load the I/O plugin as you suggest.
2. Set the output on that plugin as desired. Let's say you choose output 3 because we will assume you are using 1-2 for the main outs of your DAW..
3. Route that output to a free channel, let's say channel 1, on the Ui24r by going to your routing page and routing DAW-3 to Channel 1. You should now receive this track on the Ui24r at channel 1.
4. Now, we need to get your outboard gear into the chain. You can either do this through your main outputs if you are not in fact monitoring your daw here, or assuming you are, let's put the signal in an aux - say Aux 1. So raise fader for channel 1 on Aux 1.
5. Now plug the physical Aux 1 output into your outboard gear. Plug your outboard gear back into a free channel - let's say channel 2.
6. Finally, we are back to the input of your I/O plugin which should now be input 12 which is Channel 2.
Hope that makes sense! You also will probably have to nudge the track to deal with latency compensation at some point in this process. I think I got all the steps you will need. This is not something I really do but that should be it.
@@EaslerMedia Thanks a lot Ben! This makes sense and I think you're exactly right. What's confusing is that the aux outputs are treated as inputs in the DAW whereas the outputs in the DAW have to be routed to an input on the soundcraft (the plus ten rule in the DAW due to the physical outputs of the soundcraft adds another layer of complexity to the whole setup). But basically everything is possible and once it's all set you don't have to worry about it. The i/o pluging in Logic is able to take care of the latency problem. Thanks a lot!
Thanks for this guide, it really helped me. But i have one question. Is it possible to send pre fader Main Mix without using AUX?
It is not. However, if you mean you want to do this because your master fader is not at unity during a performance, then I would suggest turning your main speakers themselves down either at the speakers themselves or the l/r outputs at the front of the mixer as a workaround if either of these are an option for you.
@@EaslerMedia Much appreciated
Thank you for your great video. I would like to get the master signal from the DAW back on the headphone output of the UI24R. Unfortunately, I can not do that. How do you do that? Would be very happy about help. Thanks groovy greetings Kay
Hi Kay! You can simply go to the patching menu in settings and click on hardware outs and make your master l r double patched to whichever headphones you want. By default they are patched to headphones which will play whatever you solo. You could also switch one of your auxes to a matrix and then you can send any outputs including the lr to the matrix. This would give you a separate master control for the headphones in case you need independent volume since headphone one has a hardware volume control but #2 does not.
@@EaslerMedia Thanx a lot, it works. It's not so easy to find it, confused with the patching, but now I think I found out how it works well. Groovy regards Kay
Thanks for the video. Does this mean that it would be possible to plug a soundcard into my laptop/DAW, plug in any additional instruments and connect that to the UI24 that this would extend the amount of hardware channels that I plug in, without any latency issues? 20 channels plus a couple of virtual ones doesn't really get a 5 piece band fully inputted with feedback mics.
Any help on this would be great please. Thanks. :)
You can route freely from the console. It is hard to understand your exact goals from your message here but there is indeed latency over USB which your computer can report to you in your DAW easily in the audio setup. I am not sure if you are meaning for playing back usb tracks in a live setting where latency won't matter so much as this is still a mixer so that part has basically no latency so if you are just adding virtual channels in the form of prerecorded music, that would work fine.
@@EaslerMedia Thanks so much for the reply. I think I have it sorted out now.
Thanks, I'm preparing to record a band in a few days and borrow this mixer. Does it have some kind of offline software to prepare the session and routing offline in advanced like M32/X32 has?
I downloaded the "sessionmaker app" but that is obviously not it, although the name kind of suggests it is.
Found the "software demo" you can play around in browser, it does somewhat the thing I was looking for.
@@Normala-music The demo is the only way to work on show files with the unit offline since it is browser based. You can save the show files from there and load them into your Ui.
@@EaslerMedia Yes, thanks!
The ui24r has its own built in wifi. Connect your pc or computer to that wifi network, and boom, you're able to set up everything before finding an actual internet connection
Hi Ben I have a question.
I use USB sticks to record the audio from mixers but I couldn't get a good level of volume in the recorded audio, so
How to get a good high volume level in usb Stick recording?
Two things here that will help get the best results. First, you are probably running the board a little "cold." This is easy to do if you have speakers that are plenty powerful for the room. In short, you want to get your gain up at the start of the signal chain. So turn the channel gain up until you are averaging around -12 to -6 db without clipping. Raise the faders to where you want to operate and then either turn your speakers down if it is too loud in the room or turn your master output knobs down on the Ui. I would suggest keeping them and the master fader at unity and turning your amps down to the appropriate level but there are different schools of thought there. The most important thing is that you get the gain at the front of the chain. If you are recording individual channels (multi track), you are getting the signal right after the gain stage so you need to make sure it is a good signal.
If you just want a stereo recording, you could record an aux that is set to matrix so it is just your main l/r feed and then gain it up with a compressor if you wanted more gain that way.
I may be wrong here, but I do believe the Ui does drop something like 6-8 db on the recorded level to allow for some headroom as well. I will have to check that but I do remember that being the case on the Signature 22 MTK mixer.
What determines why is my wave coming in to my Daw logic x. When recording so small. How do I get a bigger signal wave ?
You need more preamp gain. Turn up the gain control for the channel you are recording. The channel level fader does nothing for your recording since it is recording pre fader.
Hi Ben !! Question for you, is there any way that I can record to daw post Fader/EQ etc. from my HW inputs? Thanks!
Hello! You can not do this on a channel by channel basis. However, if you record one of the Auxes, you can send a single channel to any aux and that would be post everything so you could just record that aux. You can do this for each aux simultaneously. If you are only recording a channel at a time, you can even just send it through on the master (1-2) and then you will be sending post everything as well.
@@EaslerMedia Ok :) that's what I thought!! Thanks a lot for the quick answer! I May have to consider it as well as doing Aux for all Toms and maybe aux for Overhead to keep the others as tracks 'cause, I have more then 8 tracks hehe ! Thanks again!
@@gmusik3488 yes it's very flexible this way but it's worth pointing out that it is the way that it is because most people recording are going to want to record right after the mic pre so they can add all effects in the mixing process. However, recording those things initially can speed up the process if you're looking for a quicker recording or just are happy enough with where it is at going in and maybe tweak the recorded product later still.
How can I send an aux channel to Waves multirack native to use as a mix bus or an fx send/return
Select the aux as your input in Multirack. Ie. Aux 1 would be input 3 as per the video. Then route it to an output on Multirack. Choose "daw 3" or whatever you want to route back on as the input of a free channel. You can't do it as an insert exactly on this console but there are the virtual channels too.
Which DAW would you suggest (that you have tested) that works well with Soundcraft Ui24r?
Hi, I use Logic normally and it is probably the best value in a professional DAW but it should work the same and perfectly fine with any DAW. The only exception is if you buy/download something that is a limited version and only accepts maybe 2 in/out and then you wouldn't be able to take advantage of the channel count of the Ui. However, most all are able to handle this.
Hey man, Good stuff! Question : Can I use this set up for our Live Broadcasting/Streaming?
Absolutely. Just select the Ui as your interface on whatever you are streaming to and select the outputs you want to record. While you could use the regular main mix, it is not uncommon to have a separate matrix mix for the live stream so that you can mix groups and the balance could be different compared to in a live room (example, you have plenty of drums live and need little reinforcement but you need them in a mic for the live stream). You can use an aux if you want even more precision.
@@EaslerMedia I'm currently using AUX out for our live streaming, 1 AUX out going to our Interface going to OBS and the sounds is not that good or clean.
Does it matter what channel I plug a mic into on the ui 24 itself when I want to record?
Yes, to be clear, the hardware input channel that is. So hardware input 1 is going to record to input 11 on your Daw. This is the case even if input 1 is routed to channel 22.
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Hey I'm using Logic aswell, and while I have this gain control on top of my channels in Logic, I don't have the phantom power flip, do you maybe know why? There is also no phantom power or phase flip in the mixer interface This mixer is a bit of a hassle, I mapped everything like you did, but my condenser mic that is plugged in channel 11 ( the first in the bottom row input, without combo plug) just cant get signal into Logic. Do all channels hafe phantom? Thanks for this tutorial though, it did help a lot!
Oh... ok... did some digging and found out if you scroll all the way to the right in mixer gain page you get to the hardware gain and phantoms... very unintuitive
@@Willigrow Hi Will! Remember, channel 11 on the mixer is input 21 on the daw. Channel 1 is 11. Check the chart again. It is a little confusing at first but really works well and is really great for an amateur recording studio setup for someone that wants to record several channels. Very versatile routing and setup. To address the other part, if you have daw routed to channel 1, it's hardware controls are not showing up above them any more because they don't have anything to do with channel 1 now but the control is still there but to the right. I explain this in the video. It would be incorrect if the gain control for channel 1 was still associated with a fader that it was no longer sending signal to. Make sense?
@@EaslerMedia It does make sense, thanks. I did route everything correctly, I just didn't know that hardware gains and phantoms are on the right side of the interface, so I didn't have phantom active for my condenser mic. Thanks again!
@@Willigrow no problem! It will only not be right above the channel if you change the routing. For example, if you only need to route daw 1-2 back to the mixer, just route them to the virtual channels, channel 21-22 or even the line in inputs. Then everything will look at expected.
Hey, I have a question.. can we capture audio from ui24r, and mix in logic to live streaming using another audiointerface for output?
Does it record raw sound without effects?
Help!!
Yes you can do that. If using two interfaces at once you will need to set up an aggregate interface on your max in audio midi setup. The ui24r records dry signal as described in this video of all inputs. If you record the master lr or any aux (these would be input 1-10 as described in the video), they would have processing as they come after the channel's faders.
Ben Easler this is great! As we capture multi dry signal, can we mix in logic and stream live concert? (Using minimal latency plugins)?
@@dadsonraj8665 stream from logic? You can as long a your processing can handle it. Are you live streaming from that computer? Might get to be a lot of cpu but you could always just make the Ui24r main mix the audio out for your Livestream from whatever that program is and you would have a mixed signal. If you want a truly independent mix as you described, the only limit would be your computer's ability to handle the task so you'll have to test that out.
Ben Easler thanks!
7:30 now you have DAW connected to channel 1, but you are not able to move the Gain pot, only the fader. My question is if there's any way to increase DAW volume over the top of the fader. In my setup, i can listen the core audio very loud in my PA (youtube videos for example), but I can't reach the same loudness with DAW playback. I get only little of the volume. So, when I try to record the band with the Metronome in headsets, the instruments are drowning the sound of the metronome. I tried it all into the DAW, everything is top of volume but still not reaching even half of the volume of Core audio. Hope you understand, not a native English speaker, thanks!
Have you compared this with the volume out of another interface? It should be at unity gain to the computer sending out to the UI which is why there is no gain control. If you're hearing the daws metronome well, it sounds like you have some Gain stage issues and don't have enough Gain coming out of the DAW. However, a couple things to keep in mind. You can route the metronome to channel 3 and your daw mains to 1-2. You could even be more particular if you want. You should also expect less output from your daw than a mastered song as you should have some headroom when mixing but if you're blasting the ui's headphone amp and its not enough that indicates something else is off in your signal chain either recording too low of level or not enough Gain somewhere.
@@EaslerMedia Thanks for your quick response! Yes, i will try to find the issue in my MAC settings, not in the DAW. Maybe there's some simple things i am not keeping in mind. I will also route the metronome to an independent channel to have more control of it. Thanks a lot!
i look on youtube cart fined an answer i like Soundcraft Ui but i was tol i need the 24r as i want just the laptop and ui to do a gig but i need to take audio from laptop to ui and then out and back for live streaming radio
This is possible, yes. Just route the computer to the Ui using the daw inputs as described and then come back out. You could just just the main 1-2 input back into your computer.
Good afternoon Ben, I am a newbie, and I have questions regarding Backing Tracks (Bass and Keys). I use Abelton Suite 11 and the UI24R. Your video describes in great detail how to send the backing track to the mixer and then out to the aux. My question is, I have some shows that I provide my PA system, and I need everything coming out of the mains and some shows that requires me to send the individual signals to the FOH. Would I split the HW signals and send the tracks to the house individually? Would this work? How do I switch everything back to just using the mains for shows that use our PA system? Thanks again!
If I understand your question, you are sending backing tracks in some instances to a separate mixer at FOH presumably in a larger venue so they have control. If they need control of the individual tracks, it sounds like you are trying to give them a hardware (xlr) output. You would be limited to 8 or 10 outputs if you count the master as 2. You could send a different instrument or group to each aux and then those outputs to the foh mixer. Is this what you mean?
@@EaslerMedia Thank you for the quick reply. That kind of answers it. I had planned on splitting the XLR HW, one to the FOH board and one to UI24R, then sending just BTs from the Aux to the splitter (w/o splitting and using it as a pass-through). Using my splitter unit as the connection point for the FOH. Do you think this would work? And I assume I can save a different show when I use just my PAs. Thanks again,
BTW - there is very little information on how to run a live show using DAW and UI24R. I know a lot of it is redundant, but having a specific video for bands would be awesome.
@@robertezp What you are describing is exactly what I would suggest is the way to go if stereo backing tracks wont work for FOH. If I have a chance, I can try to make some videos like this. I have been pretty busy lately but will see what I can do.
@@EaslerMedia thank you so much for all the help! What you do helps a lot of newbies figure this out way faster!
I've got the problem that I only hear the interface monitor.. I can't hear the monitor of Logic Pro when I plug my headphones into the interface. Any tips? Thanks anyways
Yes, you need to send the signal back to the Ui by patching DAW 1-2 to a pair of channels. You can then send that to your headphone mix. I cover this in the end of this video.
Hi, how did you get mix and gain in the same split screen?
Settings - local - big desktop for mix. Zoom out your browser until it looks nice! Best way to mix on these for sure.
@@EaslerMedia Thank's
Can I route an Aux or a Matrix to DAW-1 and DAW-2 and remove the Main-L and Main-R? I want to send a Mix to a MAC without using a DAW.
Roger, no. This output routing is fixed in the manner the video outlines. However, can you explain what you are trying to do, because there is likely a way to get the mix you want to your mac. If you can be more specific, I will try to help.
@@EaslerMedia Thanks! I am working of a video conference room for an elementary school district. I want to connect a Ui-24R to a MAC that is running Zoom. By default, the MAC's USB interface provides two channels 1 and 2 for output and also input. The connection from the MAC to the Ui-24R works perfectly. The part that is missing is that the UI-24R has 9 conference mics comming into it. Currently these mics are in the Aux 3 and Aux 4 mix. I'd like to get them to go out USB 1 and 2 without having to use a DAW to remap them from DAW6&7 to USB Ch 1&2. Someone said I could do this with a Matrix but from what you said, I assume not. Currently the Main Bus is what is going out DAW1 and DAW2. If I used this, I would not be able to put anything else on the main Bus. I could do this but even though all of the mic channels are set to POST, the DAW is getting audio right after the gain stage. The main faders have no effect, and the mute buttons have no effect. This I can’t live with. I don’t want to have to sue the gain faders to get the mix I need. I’d appreciate help with this. I feel stuck. Roger
@@camariposa Ok I see. I am pretty surprised that you can only choose the first inputs in Zoom but that appears to be the case. I also was thinking you could change that in Mac's audio/midi settings but I don't think so. I think in Windows, you can actually choose the specific input. That being said, what you said at the end does not make sense. The in 1-2 should be your main mix meaning post fader and reacting to all faders. Regardless, there are a couple of options that I see. Option 1 - Consider switching to running everything you need in the Zoom meeting to the main outputs. Set up an aux mix or matrix that is whatever you need in the room and send those outputs to the room speakers. That way whatever audio you need in the room goes through the output and the computer sees what you want. Option 2 - Download the app called "Loopback" by Rogue Amoeba. This program works great and will allow you to route any of the inputs to your system input. So you can choose whichever one you want without running a DAW. Hope this is helpful!
@@EaslerMedia Thanks. Your Option sounds perfect. Finding only the PRE Fader mix in the USB-1 and USB-2 outputs has me baffled. I agree with you that these should work the way you say. I'll look at this again carefully and see how it is that I might have had a "dumb attack".
Hi ben, im extremely confused with the patching stuff and i hope you could help me out. In our church for live streaming I use a Windows Laptop and Studio One as my choice of DAW for capturing the band and singers input. I mix these inputs then sound the sound to our live streaming PC. Using apple/logic was simpler because in my DAW, it allowed me to select the Ui24r as my input and my laptop as the output which from the mac I send that sound via 3.5mm cable to our PC.
Now with the windows laptop it is not possible. My DAW only allows input and output as UI24r selected. I wanted to use the headphone outs as a stereo pair for output from my DAW. How is this achieved?
Hi Jose, it has been a while since I used the Ui24r with a Windows computer or any interface besides a simple 2 channel one or Dante which is another animal so bear with me. I also don't use Studio One so I apologize if don't have all the answers here. I am a Mac user most of the time! So two options: you can route the audio back to your Ui24r by Selecting "DAW 1-2" as your input for whatever channels you want the audio to come back on to your Ui24r. You can also set a different in and out on windows as well though: see this link: support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht510203-choose-sound-output-input-device-windows-10 and you should be able to do this in Studio One as well: slatedigital.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360008932073-Studio-One-I-O-Settings#:~:text=Navigate%20to%20the%20“Studio%20One,Input%20as%20the%20Recording%20Device.&text=You%20will%20need%20to%20ensure,for%20the%20“Input”%20section.
If you do not have the full version of Studio One, perhaps it does not allow this, I am not sure. However, choosing the DAW inputs on your Ui24r in the input routing page should solve this as well.
@@EaslerMedia Thanks for the quick reply! For the first link, I tried selecting the output to my preferred out but it seems like it wont work. For the second link, I do have the full version but to have the recording and playback selection is a Mac thing. After much research, it seems like its a limitation from windows ASIO drivers. The choosing of input is not a problem but the choosing of output or playback device is not possible in windows. Bummer.
Let me know if im doing this correctly lol. The work around I think for me is this, from my daw I output it (Stereo Out 1-2), then patch it in Ui24r selecting (USB Daw). Then once I assign a stereo link channel, I then patch that channel to Aux 9-10. Then use the Headphone Outputs as a stereo output to my streaming PC.
My questions is, how do I know what output should I select in my DAW? And how do I patch that output and choose a channel?
@@josealfonso5260 I really thought you could change in vs out in Windows but my use of Windows for audio is limited as I mentioned. You may want to check out ASIO4ALL which I believe allows you to create an aggregate device combining multiple audio drivers. I again, tinkered with this very little. However, I would say that doing this all through the Ui is more elegant anyway since you'd have just one connection. The way you described it would work perfectly. Your main output on your DAW would be 1-2 by default but you should be able to choose a different one if you for some reason needed a different mix for your stream vs headphones or something like that. I am not sure exactly what you are doing but it sounds like you just need the main mix which should be 1-2. You will want to patch them to a pair of channels and then send that to whatever aux your headphones are patched to (you indicate 9-10). I think once you get it set up, you will find that it will be a simpler and cleaner setup than running your aux cable back to the Ui.
@@EaslerMedia Thank you so much for the reply! I did try ASIO4ALL but I was even more confused with the GUI lol with more time and more tinkering Ill try if it works.
Thank you, so I know the routing to the headphones is correct! I'll do this method as its more reliable for me. So just a recap for me lol, In my DAW I select Outputs 9-10 > Ui24r under the HW OUTS (USB DAW 1-16 TAB) I will select then Channel 9-10 to Aux 9-10. Is this correct? This way I dont need to assign a channel and stereo link them together.
Im so sorry for the questions, I do not have access to my mixer so I could not test it out yet so im doing all this in my head. But I really do appreciate you for helping me out.
@@josealfonso5260 This is close but no, not quite right. The first step you are overcomplicating. While you could make the out from your DAW anything, just stick with 1-2 unless there is a reason not too. Then on the Ui24r, in your patching, route your DAW 1-2 to any pair of channels you like - let's say you choose 23-24 and you should stereo link them/pan if you want to be in stereo. Then, you need to route them to an aux of your choice which you should also make stereo. Let's say Aux 9-10 as you suggested this. So, you would raise channel 23-24 ONLY on Aux 9-10. Finally, on your patching page, you will want to make sure that on the output page that Aux 9-10 is routed to whichever set of headphones you want to send it to. It sounds complicated the first time but it really makes sense once you understand the flow and once you have set it, you don't really have to do it again anyway unless you build a new show from scratch.
can i use ui16 in fl studio ? for audio interface output monitor?
You can but be aware that the Ui16 does is not a 32 channel interface like this. It is only 2x2. So you can monitor 2 speaker outputs and you can record in stereo. This is not a bad solution if you are just recording one source at a time but you couldn't record a drum set and then have access to each mic once you've recorded unless you only used a stereo pair or something like that.
Thankl you@@EaslerMedia what about Ui24 its same?
@@djharsh1795 The basic workflow is the same and mixer layout but Ui24r allows for Big Desktop mode as you see here where there is an information layer above the faders which can be switched between a few layout options. The Ui24r also has some improved preamps and electronics.
It's like I have a mental block! I'm having trouble clearly understanding how to set up the output from the DAW so that I have a headphone mix when recording. Can anyone help me?
You can route any mix on the mixer to headphones. This can be your main mix or an aux. You will need to route your daw 1-2 back to a pair of input channels to hear your daw mix. You could also go more complex and route channels or auxes out of your daw and back.
@@EaslerMedia Thanks so much for your reply. I'll try and probably get back to you.
What about two UI24Rs in cascade mode?
I haven't done that for a while and truthfully only cascaded once and never used usb with it but I'm pretty sure the usb interface will see them separately so you'd want to connect both devices via USB and create an aggregate audio device to use both. Im almost certain that is correct but I believe this info is also in the software update release notes.
@@EaslerMedia I thought that the ethernet connection would have been enough, never thought of the USB. But, saying that, I did as you said and it does connect as it shows on the Soundcraft control panel but the IOs are still 32. It did not double it to 64. And, even if I switch between the two in the control panel, still does not work as expcted . Do you think I missed something? If you have some thoughts about it would be great. Also, I did contact technical support about it.
I thought the cascade would give double of the IOs even with the DAW but it does not look like that. Shame
@@Base-Lab you need to set up an aggregate audio device. When you plug both devices into your computer via USB it is going to see two 32 channel audio interfaces. You want to make them one interface. If you are using a mac, this is done in the Audio MIDI setup application. Click the plus on the bottom left and creat aggregate device. Then you can choose both interfaces. You will pick one to be channel 1-32 And one to be 33-64. This works with any interfaces not just because they are the same.
@@EaslerMedia Ben, i just want to thank you for your input. About the aggregate, I know about it as I used to have a Mac before, but now, I am using PC. I tought that it was an aggregate option from Soundcraft that I did not realise. Hopefully that would change. Again thanks
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What is DAW?
DAW is a Digital Audio Workstation. Basically, any audio recording program. This video explains how you connect this mixer to a DAW to record.
@@EaslerMedia thanks
A very poorly implemented 'Direct Out' USB interface. It should provide for various tap points, i.e. Pre or Post EQ, Post Processing, and even Post Fader, for Direct Outs. Also a 'control room' style monitoring section would have been a good idea, so you could direct monitor inputs and playback with varying levels... simultaneously! Therefore avoiding any DAW latency issues!!!
Brett, I have to disagree here. Keep in mind that the mixer is designed with live in mind first. Beyond that, this not only allows you to record all of the channels before your processing so you can make it sound great in your studio, but you can also record any built in processing by recording your mains or an aux so you can get those tap points you want. You also have a built in zero latency mixer as you requested..just route your daw back to the Ui24r and then use it as a near zero latency monitor for recorded signals. What interface offers more really?
First, I like this mixer a lot but I agree that DAW USB interface has issues. In particular, the master/aux outputs are post--fader only. So you can't really monitor particular master/aux and record them usefully. Even if the aux/master faders are set to a level sufficient to provide audible outputs, the level available to the DAW may be *very* much lower than those on the actual channels proper (which are post-gain/pre-fader).
I don't see why there is not a screen controlling the level that is sent on the USB channels independently of the physical aux output levels, I suspect the hardware can do it and it is a matter of the firmware supporting it Depending on the particular needs you may be able to get around this by creating a duplicate aux that you don't monitor. Fortunately there are more virtual aux channels than physical aux outputs.
Another annoyance is that (unlike the Soundcraft 22MTK) all of the channels are brought into the master mix both (USB and physical out). As I recall, the 22MTK allows a channel strip to not be included into the the master/usb (3 buttons enable the mst/grp1/grp2). Again you mostly can get around this by using/routing Aux channels to the physical masters but a master send would eliminate the need to eat up aux channels.
I reiterate, I like this mixer, it's built like a brick outhouse, the WiFi is rock solid, the sound is good, and the general plan of the the browser based control is very usable and novel (any device with WiFi/browser can control it).