They also made Faust outright worse. They took away half of his tools for meterless TK Boi hand and that does not make up for the fact Thrust and its now only 2 followups is now a 75 meter forcebreak that barely does 15%.
it's weird that there's not a lot of info online about the EX versions maybe people never bothered since you need to do survival shenanigans to unlock them but they seem like real-ass characters
Time to self-promote. I actually have been comparing the original character and the EX characters on my channel here since they are relatively unknown.
EX Sol and Ky were such awesome move exchanges, I thought it was a really clever idea to give them parts of each others' moveset and reinvent them as new character! But I faintly remember EX A.B.A. being permanently stuck in her berserker mode, except there was an install super that would just turn it up to eleven at a massive health drain rate. But if you knew what you were doing, you could literally Gold Burst into Install into ToD. I really wish EX characters would return eventually in XRD or Strive as alternate versions of characters with playstyles from their previous incarnations.
I would love if they did this for strive as well. Bring back some old moves, make each move op or different in some unique way, and mess with the overdrives. Imagine ride the lighting but going diagonal up. Or Giovann being able to use her dog moves like a puppet. Just make it joyfully broken.
Seeing Chipp like killed me that was amazing. This is why I love the EX characters in GG and unlimited characters in the BB games some rainbow edition stuff right there lol.
I'm one of those dudes that never played against humans, cpu only. There was a point I would only fight against the gold and shadow versions for the ultimate challenge. I don't think gold Sol can be beaten though, like his healt recovers over time and when you are comboing him it always stays at 1%, I think you need IK to win against him. Also EX versions are sick, I learned Slayer using his EX first since it's a simplified Slayer and then went with the original. Would be nice to see this back (more balanced of course) but yeah, good stuff will never happen again
Gold sol is a beast but the real monster is either Gold HOS or gold slayer. Gold HOS has super health regen in DI, it heals far much more than regular regen and he spams it alot couple with DI -> sakai that he can spam with 50% tension at will. Gold slayer has both regen and blood succ from any of his attack and as usual gold's attack dmg is whacked I used to play vs gold HOS, slayer and most of all I-no when R+ has no rollback. Sadly that with rollback now I cant select gold in single play like old time, no matter how many time i beat story or survival mode.
@@DuyPham-tp7tu Slayer is definitely one of the harder ones and Johnny (1 hit, you are dead). But as a Dizzy main I couldn't IK Sol and I don't know if my combos did bad dmg but his health never hits 0 unlike HOS, you would had to keep going until time runs out (I used to play with infinite time so that was a problem too lol)
People have spent years learning the normal characters and then all the sudden their are more match-ups, frame-data, it would also just the awkward to add only some of them. Ex characters are prototypes and intentionally for fun. Just join an ex tournament.
There is little information on the Gold characters. Would be cool to see videos detailing the differences. And let's not forget the Shadow characters that are literally just infinite meter versions
It completely opened the door to a new world of baiken loop, just fun stuff although you lose baiken's godlike special counters and get a shittier version of yozansen
This is only the half of it. Wait till you test out the other game systems with the menu, it's like Grooves, mix and match EX with say, original GG systems, it's a fucking blast. Charge Cancels, baby!
@@LucidButtonMasher Checked. Definitely isn't unlocked by default and according to steam forums they both changed the unlock method so survival has nothing to do with it and controls. Seems to be tied to time/beating story mode only
I do have around 300 hours in it but i really feel like it's not the case with the recent rollback update. Base steam without the rollback may have been the unlocking case
EX characters feel like missing link characters but toned down for acr. ABA is so funny to me because her EX variant is that she's just permanently in moraha mode making her neutral fucking insane and you can just chain into infinite TOD combos because there is no timer to stop you from just completely going on forever, its fucking nuts.
EX Pot is actually a worst character than regular Pot and that's HILARIOUS
a funny counter at the cost of no raw hpb
And heat knuckle sucks
They also made Faust outright worse. They took away half of his tools for meterless TK Boi hand and that does not make up for the fact Thrust and its now only 2 followups is now a 75 meter forcebreak that barely does 15%.
But he does have several otg options for longer combos that keep oki
@@TheDemopan3hes also got a DP there.
I like how EX HOS is just this weird mash of GG, GGX and XX Vanilla Sol
and just tossed him a bone with dustloop and special cancellable fafnir
Pretty neat
When I first tried EX Slayer I as confused ith his normals for some time and then I realized - he has gatlings in EX
Yeah that threw me through a loop
EX Dizzy has a Dragon Install, because she needs it.
Also, 0:23. Rare footage of Quicksilver just abusing his father.
Lmao nice reference
it's weird that there's not a lot of info online about the EX versions
maybe people never bothered since you need to do survival shenanigans to unlock them but they seem like real-ass characters
They are unlocked by default now, it's just that they are super neglected by the game
Time to self-promote. I actually have been comparing the original character and the EX characters on my channel here since they are relatively unknown.
There's no info cause nobody ever uses them outside of just dicking around.
@@darksquigglyboy yoo those are actually really cool
@@darksquigglyboy I've seen your EX Sol video, thanks a lot for those, bro
Order Sol just turns into boneless regular Sol, don't forget that part
He's actually considerably different moveset wise
@@harryvpn1462 He's basically Dragon Install Lite
@@collinsgichuhi8255 not really though?
What's he do?
@@harryvpn1462 Has Dragon Install Gunflame and Volcanic Viper as Forcebreaks
EX Sol and Ky were such awesome move exchanges, I thought it was a really clever idea to give them parts of each others' moveset and reinvent them as new character! But I faintly remember EX A.B.A. being permanently stuck in her berserker mode, except there was an install super that would just turn it up to eleven at a massive health drain rate. But if you knew what you were doing, you could literally Gold Burst into Install into ToD.
I really wish EX characters would return eventually in XRD or Strive as alternate versions of characters with playstyles from their previous incarnations.
Just to make it a fun alternative
Imagine if the upcoming Xrd patch is this instead of rollback, haha.
Or... best case, this and rollback.
Rollback pls
@@LucidButtonMasher
Of course. But the subversion would certainly be something.
Lol for sure. I'm asking for the bare minimum
sol with greed sever sounds like the ultimate online warrior
Sadly its a lot more awkward
Not as big but it works
If everyone is unbalanced, the game will be balanced, right?! XD
It's worth a shot
legit the logic of older guilty gears. if everyone is broken, nobody’s broken
Ahhh. Nostalgic. EX overdrives are so awesome. Loved the ex versions so much like hidden character variations.
They're very cool to fuck around with
I would love if they did this for strive as well. Bring back some old moves, make each move op or different in some unique way, and mess with the overdrives. Imagine ride the lighting but going diagonal up. Or Giovann being able to use her dog moves like a puppet. Just make it joyfully broken.
Imagine blood gauge, except it drains with specials and if it goes full you temporally use boss nago
Would make it more interesting.
Just have a fun more lol
sin kiske can ride the lightning diagonal and up
give sol his dragon install back
I remember reading on gamefaqs as a kid that hold Potemkin was only given a forward dash. To this day that shit still scares me.
Nah just the command throwb that moves forward which is good enough tbh
I miss the old fighting games.
Luckily it's still alive
then go play them
Doing!
That's what we're doing
EX Slayer was a treasure.
He's a bit weird but seems fun
He lost his cool dash though.
Yeah it's a bit different
@@Person_Not_Known He still has it but it buries inside his rekka chain.
Super weird
well now i really gotta know about the gold characters
Hehehe
2:10 - when Johnny gets added to Strive, this is how much damage CH Mist finer will deal.
Lmao
Gold pot can dash and air dash half way through the screen.... Let than sink in!!!!
He basically spawns in your face
I love that
This may be my favourite video you've ever made. And that's saying something.
Many thanks friend
Its stuff like this that I miss in fighting games...
Creativity baby
I love these modes, part of certain fighting games, even if "sometimes" is much more broken, it also has different animations and etc...
Extra love put into the game
Seeing Chipp like killed me that was amazing. This is why I love the EX characters in GG and unlimited characters in the BB games some rainbow edition stuff right there lol.
So fun dude
I'm one of those dudes that never played against humans, cpu only. There was a point I would only fight against the gold and shadow versions for the ultimate challenge. I don't think gold Sol can be beaten though, like his healt recovers over time and when you are comboing him it always stays at 1%, I think you need IK to win against him.
Also EX versions are sick, I learned Slayer using his EX first since it's a simplified Slayer and then went with the original. Would be nice to see this back (more balanced of course) but yeah, good stuff will never happen again
This shows how fun single player fighting games can be
Gold sol is a beast but the real monster is either Gold HOS or gold slayer. Gold HOS has super health regen in DI, it heals far much more than regular regen and he spams it alot couple with DI -> sakai that he can spam with 50% tension at will.
Gold slayer has both regen and blood succ from any of his attack and as usual gold's attack dmg is whacked
I used to play vs gold HOS, slayer and most of all I-no when R+ has no rollback. Sadly that with rollback now I cant select gold in single play like old time, no matter how many time i beat story or survival mode.
@@DuyPham-tp7tu Slayer is definitely one of the harder ones and Johnny (1 hit, you are dead). But as a Dizzy main I couldn't IK Sol and I don't know if my combos did bad dmg but his health never hits 0 unlike HOS, you would had to keep going until time runs out (I used to play with infinite time so that was a problem too lol)
They should be tournament legal actually 👍
Hmmmmm
@@LucidButtonMasher it would be very funny 👍
Lmao Idk about that
Some of them could be tournament legal like ex holy order sol because not all ex characters are broken
People have spent years learning the normal characters and then all the sudden their are more match-ups, frame-data, it would also just the awkward to add only some of them. Ex characters are prototypes and intentionally for fun. Just join an ex tournament.
Chipp's teleport and Kliff's giant charged sword slash are just out of control. I would main Chipp just to troll people with teleport non-stop.
It's legit hilarious to use
If Guilty Gear X Blazblue arrives someyear, it has to come with EX and Unlimited characters...
That would be fucking sick
@@LucidButtonMasher Tyrant Rave VS full charged Dead Spike (I mean, a Super would beat a special anyway but wanna see a clash of 2 mega waves)
I always called EX Ky's RTL 'Shoot The Lightning' as a kid lol
It just don't go nowhere
Lucid had big Mark Harmill’s Joker energy during this video.
Lmao ty
Did Gold Johnny just Instant Kill Tagerkin without using his instant kill?!
Indeed. The power of god and anime
EX Venom moves are no longer charge moves...and he has air stingers. :D
Oh hell yeah
so basically they got xrd johnny for the golden version
In the short of it yes
EX characters walked so that Unlimited characters in BlazBlue can run.
Same idea lol
Yikes
Sounds sick
When everyone is broken, no one is!
Agreed
There is little information on the Gold characters. Would be cool to see videos detailing the differences.
And let's not forget the Shadow characters that are literally just infinite meter versions
Some have faster movement
@@LucidButtonMasher 👌
I think xx on Xbox had shadow versions as well. Which I think gave you infinite tension at the cost of lower health. Base move set.
Usually super speed too i think?
@@LucidButtonMasher If you mean on that version specifically, then I'm not sure. However, ACPR doesn't.
I'll have to check
Chipp EX special is siiick
Super sick
Heh, he dizzied the Dizzy
Oh i get it
Dude, you don't how surprised i am when i found out baiken dust interacts differently with her EX
How's that?
It completely opened the door to a new world of baiken loop, just fun stuff although you lose baiken's godlike special counters and get a shittier version of yozansen
Pretty neat
EX Slayer has AC jH, already a big upgrade in my book.
Damn what's it do?
@@LucidButtonMasher Forearms and legs don't have a hurtbox
Oh?!
I wish they werent so neglected by the game and community
They're too cool to ignore
I get the feeling that EX mode will not be tournament legal
Unfortunately
This is only the half of it. Wait till you test out the other game systems with the menu, it's like Grooves, mix and match EX with say, original GG systems, it's a fucking blast. Charge Cancels, baby!
All the gg and ggx stuff is quite interesting
Make a vid about gold characters dude
Hehehe funny preview at the end
Every game should have a special type of ranked where only boss characters are allowed
Some casual lobbies allow it
Order Sol in red/purple = Magneto
That's why it's the best color
Ex chipp is so goddamn hype
Literally can just not play the game
@@LucidButtonMasher have you tried ex Johnny he is so whack
Ex fighting game only tournament when
I'm not opposed
gg1 ex slayer
enjoy wavedashing all around and iads at literally 1 millimeter from the ground
That's sick
YOu should do a video on GOLD characters, now THOSE are broken.
I should look into em
Can I just say the censorship is the best part about these
Lol thanks bud
When are the EX tourneys?
Some people have them
YOOOO the good shit
Funny games indeed
@@LucidButtonMasher ex chipp is fucking hilarious
he can wall dive anywhere
Yeah i didn't even know about that yet
I remember those!
XD
Fun characters
2:11 xrd
Tracks
How do you use gold characters in the rollback version?
Gotta hit "character record" on the slash and reload skins iirc
Fun but **** unlocking them again on steam. I think the best way was to just leave the game idle for like 40 hours
You don't have to do anything to unlock them
@@LucidButtonMasher Weird, I don't have them on steam version pretty sure. Guess I'll check if I'm wrong.
Ive never touched survival mode that's for sure lol
@@LucidButtonMasher Checked. Definitely isn't unlocked by default and according to steam forums they both changed the unlock method so survival has nothing to do with it and controls.
Seems to be tied to time/beating story mode only
I do have around 300 hours in it but i really feel like it's not the case with the recent rollback update. Base steam without the rollback may have been the unlocking case
Do you know the best thing about ex characters? all guns blazing is back
What's that again? Someone's super?
@@LucidButtonMasher was Sol's original IK from GG1 which then Order Sol inherits in his EX version
Oh i see
What do Gold characters do?
Fuck if i know
how do u unlock ex character
I think you just need to beat their story paths but it's been awhile. Worth a Google
EX Pot is a downgrade :(
Yeah ngl tried him and i don't get what he's supposed to do lol
@@LucidButtonMasher Counters. He counters. Just like Johnny's EX mode.
Booo
you gotta show off gold Faust
I'll have to
Poor order sol player
Feels bad after
OG unlimited mode
Unlimited blade works
@@LucidButtonMasher l meant OG unlimited mode of blazblue
Oh i know
EX characters feel like missing link characters but toned down for acr. ABA is so funny to me because her EX variant is that she's just permanently in moraha mode making her neutral fucking insane and you can just chain into infinite TOD combos because there is no timer to stop you from just completely going on forever, its fucking nuts.
Holy shit