almost all of them in , even had a 1976 forklift with that feature , this story is full of holes like how those wheels magically straightened out instantly as he slipped on a grease puddle
Who is to say this one had it? From the story I’m hearing it’s a lot of OSHA violations on top of a kid that’s not even old enough to drive a forklift legally
Forklifts are one of the most dangerous machines ever invented. That even goes for experienced drivers , I would rather drive an 80,000lb semi any day than drive a forklift. I just don't care for how they steer.
Well, my mum always told me "Never stand next to a forklift, shift it into reverse while not inside, while there is a puddle of hydraulic fluid on the floor". Now I see why.
I personally don't operate a forklift I'm not fully in. If I operate a forklift, I'm going to operate it as if I'm going to be fully operating it for a good amount of time.
@@geraldhills41 thats no excuse i have had no hesitation to say wall then you do it and safety is the key do you want a work comp case for telling people to do it unsafely
@@geraldhills41 When you're management is that reckless, that's the sign that you quit, and it's a shame that he didn't get any certification from the CCOHS, because I am certain they would've taught him that first thing.
@@nxxbox-hh8gu Well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he was young and didn't know his' rights. This is extremely important and cannot be stressed enough: THIS IS WHY CCOHS, OSHA, HSE, Comcare etc are SO IMPORTANT: So that bullshit like this is prevented in the future and workers' KNOW their rights..
As a maintenance mechanic, I make sure all the safety features are working correctly on the lift before it leaves my area. I'm inherently at fault if I disengage a safety mechanism and someone gets hurt, or killed. The problem is, even people who are properly trained, say "oh, it's just easier; or , I have done it a hundred times", don't realize how stupid and dangerous it really is. Fork trucks are meant for one job. Get on, move materials, get off. It's NEVER worth risking your life to save a few seconds, ever. Be safe everyone.
First day on the job in construction and old dude told me, "you better watch your ass out here because ain't nobody gonna watch it for you and you definitely get killed." Best training I ever had.
"If I received the proper training..." ??? The very first thing I learned as a forklift operator was when and if you need to leave the forklift, you put it in neutral and apply the handbrake. That is any motorized vehicle...
Tadesan I do. It’s not good for your transmission to not use it. Why are you going to risk damage to your car because you can’t take half a second to put on the emergency brake?
appleintosh exactly and that makes two of us, I don’t get why people even my friends do it, I’m like it’s literally just pull the brake up and that’s it, lazy asses
You do have that right in America. If they fire you for it, you can sue them, because it's illegal to punish someone if they refuse to do something unsafe in a workplace.
What do you mean? In America you absolutely have the right to refuse a job. If you refuse a job it’s not like you will be arrested, at worst you will be fired, but even then you can sue the company or find a safer job somewhere else.
At my first job in a factory, I was sorting parts one day at a table, and you wore ear protection so you couldn't hear anything--and suddenly I was thrown backward against the metal shelving and crushed and pinned-some idiot had backed a forklift into me . I screamed but couldn't even hear myself, I was trapped there for what felt like forever. Another half inch and I would have been like this poor guy or worse. I didn't even get an apology! I hope they find a cure for spinal injuries soon.
@@ambientblue-eyedmonkey8849 dude, he was unproperly trained. so he couldn't think as panic went through his mind. When the human brain feels the need to start panicking you don't think straight. This makes the simplest of tasks to be hard.
Yep same story. “Hey wanna start tomorrow? It’s part time.” Immediately worked 8 hours, 5 days a week tons of guys hurt at my warehouse because of the % you have to get or you get written up and eventually fired. People have to run stop signs, lift unsafe, work through breaks, and show up early just to make it.. every time they call in auditors to assess the standards, they let half the colleagues go home early so there’s little congestion and only keep the fastest people who work for that bonus $ so of course then the standard shoots up and is impossible to safely reach. People are having meltdowns left and right fearing for their job when it’s not physically possible to do properly. You either work unsafe and cheat times to make numbers or you work safe and eventually get fired for a low % THANK GOD i got hurt and somehow took a janitorial position but with the same high pay or the physical labor to meet #s would have disabled me by now.
Older experienced workers that exploit young inexperienced staff make me sick. And not teaching a boy the do and don't of forklift operation shouldn't be in any industry.
A couple caterpillar sitdowns, disable the parking brake & put it in drive/reverse, it will crawl exactly like a car would in gear without the hammer down...
I was running farm equipment since before I was a teenager on my family's farm. I'm sure that he was told never put a machine in gear if you're not in the operator's seat. If he really didn't get told and didn't have enough common sense to know that he was doing something extremely dangerous, then he should have stuck to his video games where he could rewind or start again from his last save.
I just started at UPS Monday I've been training on the docks for two days and I was told I'm the best damn forklift operator he's ever trained and I have no experience except for farm work and I'm only 18 yes it's dangerous you just got to know what you're doing
+DASHAN WHEELER i work on a farm and im almost 18 now but i was running tractors and things like a forklift where nothing. and ive been workin there for years now. 16 year olds drive cars they can drive forkfits too lol
+2shotsgaming Just because they CAN doesn't mean they do it right or professionally, SKILL takes time to acquire and arrogance cannot make up for it friend. I thought I was such a hot shot driver when I was 18 yeah ok whatever, I've wore out several vehicles over the years, trust me you don't really know how to drive like a seasoned skilled person, you will have to grow to get there. I grew up raising cattle, a tractor is a different animal than a fork lift, your tractor isn't going to reach as high as most, I've driven several tractors and a few fork lifts, they aren't the same at all.
What if you need to readjust your ass, going 5mph with a stack of pallets? Do you think it's safer for the forklift to keep moving or to stop and throw all the pallets forward?
Misaka Mikoto Sometimes a person has to grow up and deal with discomfort to maintain safety, life isn't always easy going and comfortable, or maybe said person should adjust their butt and getting that part right before starting. IF the pallets are going to fall off because of stopping then someone needs to find another jobby because they clearly don't know what they are doing to start with, anything can happen and the operator need to stop. Then again someone that likes that satanic 6 point star obviously has problems thinking things through to begin with.
+m beginization accidents are inherently all preventable. we can have rules and laws all we like but we are inherently flawed as a species because we make the rules and we break them to suit our need.
Wait a second. He stated "I put the forklift into gear when not in it, which I was told was strictly forbidden." Then at the end of the video he states "If they had given me the proper training." WTF? He just admitted that he did not listen to them. I hope to hell this guy did not win any lawsuits in relation to this one.
When operating this type of equipment, training is essential and required. Someone as young as he was at the time shouldn’t even be operating a forklift. Thank you for sharing this story.
Makes me glad my Crown 5500 at work has a dead man plate and that if you leave the lift, it stops because once you take our left foot off the pedal, it is effectively like parking the lift. Aint been driving a lift long, but one thing I do know is that you can NEVER take a forklift lightly. Thousands of pounds of force is unforgiving, even at slow speeds.
that's because you have a reach truck and not a fork lift. forklifts don't have a dead man peddle because you need both feet to operate it. but you don't need your feet to operate a reach truck, it's all done by hand and you're standing up with no harnesses to keep you inside the machine so you need a deadman peddle in a reach truck.
My first job ever was driving a forklift when I was 16. I got no training whatsoever but I sure knew better than putting it in gear while I wasn't in it. Seemed like common sense to me. I worked that job until I went to college with no accidents. You just have to have respect for anything you drive. 👍
brigid trigsted Hey wasn't trying to move anything. He got off the forklift to do something work-related (like pick scraps from the floor or something), and while he was off of it he accidentally touched the gearshift lever causing the forklift to move on its own. The kid obviously wasn't experienced or trained enough to deal with the situation that came up. At my workplace, they always remind drivers to remove their keys from the ignition when they're not on the forklift so that situations like this are avoided in the first place.
brigid trigsted He got off the forklift and the thing started spinning around. If not stopped it would cause lots of damage and the boy would be paying for all those damage and maybe gets terminated from work. So being inexperienced, he panicked. He was not able to act appropriately and fast enough. Then he slipped down because of some oil spill on the driveway. He fell down and got pinned by the heavy equipment. He lacked the training. It is the duty of the management to give him proper training before he can do his task. Other safety precautions were overlooked too like supervision and housekeeping.
Jennifer Vistal he shouldn't of operated it while not in it.... Would you put your car in gear from outside? No... Im sure nobody every told you not to do that, its common sense.
***** I am an experienced rugby player and forklift operator, Dude you welcome to try and jump on several ton's of moving machinery, The guy was over keen tried to do use a piece of potentially lethal machinery and was lucky to live
Surely everyone must realise you cannot control a vehicle from the outside! He was astute enough to know the site had high vehicular traffic so decided to move the fork truck. But in all my years as a driver (I started driving aged 15 and before I was 16 I drove a Toyota 20 diesel fork truck) I have never understood why people think it is safe to operate machines like this young man did or to stick an arm into an auger or a tree chipper!? My son is almost 5 and I drum it into him that vehicles are dangerous machines that can and do kill. I pray every day he will be safe.....
First thing I realized when I was operating a forklift was to respect the torque of these things! It's usually the weight and HUGE amount of low speed torque these monsters have that cause most accidents, not how "fast" the forklift is actually going.. Be safe people!
Exactly, driving a forklift is like having the power of the incredible Hulk but trying to write with a mechanical pencil with 0.5mm lead . I remember when I started at Sam's Club and we had Raymond reach trucks we used on our shifts, they were the standing forklifts with a deadman switch . I had this older guy train me in, he had worked there for like 20 years . Before work he would say a prayer and on the back of his reflective vest it read the words "may the forks be with you " . Just because he was experienced the dude knew that all it takes is the one time where you had an argument with your wife the night before and lack of sleep or someone didn't stack a pallet right on their previous shift. That little lapse in judgment is all it takes man . I don't really care how the forklifts steer from the back and they're really touchy, it takes some getting used to . All these young kids want to prove they can do it to and say look ma no hands and they have no idea how dangerous they are . 9000lbs with the force that can go through a brick wall .
Depends on what the power is and wheel position. The first forklift I learned on if the wheels were cranked all the way like in this video and you didn't give it gas it would stall out. But a more powerful forklift or if the wheels are straight or not turned much can move when in gear without any gas. It really depends on the engine. And electric forklift won't move at all without any power on the pedal.
Because it's a RE-ENACTMENT with an actor, the real accident happened with a forklift no doubt going MUCH faster, they had this one going the slowest possible so the actor doesn't get injured or killed for a video
Very powerful message. I spent 32 years working at Honda Canada Mfg and will say safety was paramount. If there is such a thing as too safe, they had it pinned. Everyone should work in a safe environment and Honda provided that. There is an expectation of the associates as well. Be aware, accidents can and do happen
When I was 16 I worked at a warehouse that distributed beauty supplies. They’d raise me up on the forks, no pallet, just holding the fence with one foot on each fork, to go up 5-6 shelves (approximately 40 feet) to retrieve a box or two, balance it on one for an hold my hand on top while holding my only lifeline-the gate, with the other hand. I did this many, many times. I’m 32 now and think how stupid I was to be risking my life for $9/hr like that. Like this guy, I had seen others do it since I started, I was young, and you don’t want to say no at a new job. Months after I left there, someone doing the same thing as me had his fingers on both hands crushed against a ceiling beam when the operator wasnt paying attention and raised him up too far. Be safe, dont do anything you know isnt right, speak up, and QUIT if things arent changing or getting better. No money is worth your well-being.
"if I had received the proper training..." I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have known automatically not to attempt to operate the forklift outside of the forklift. I work around a fork lift all day and I knew the first day of being around one that that's something you should NEVER do and I have never received a minute of training nor operated a forklift. I feel bad for him but it's entirely his fault.
He was *16* and he says he'd seen his coworkers doing it as well. The business was 100% responsible for letting a kid operate this heavy equipment without supervision or proper training and for having, apparently, zero safety culture on site.
As a forklift operator for little over 7yrs it’s something u gotta take it seriously and this injured could have been prevented if he get on n moved only take u 5 sec but he decided to do the lazy way or unsafe now is change his life forever never back to normal. Poor guy at least he’s alive. SAFETY FIRST
Even with proper training people do not follow the rules because jobs push you faster and harder to get more production out of you and you make it unsafe by trying to shave off seconds from safety.
I agree with you man. Many jobs don't care about the safety of employees. They care about the job being done without noticing the danger they're causing.
Then such "jobs" or companies should be reported to OSHA. If a company is going to risk lives for profit, then they should be put out of business and even charged of criminal (and civil?) acts. The only types of professions that OSHA can't do much about are the medical field and law enforcement field. Danger comes with the job in those types of fields.
Hi, John, thank you for your courage to share your painful disability story. Permanent disability can happen to anyone at any time in BC, and the issue is not how or why it happened, but what comes next for the disabled worker! The sad truth is BC is aggressive and hostile to its disabled workers. Did you know that disabled workers are judged and marginalised by long-term disability benefits resolution systems that are corrupt?
i drove a forklift for 3 months. I tell you i have never been so scared in my life every time i lifted a 2000 lbs pallet onto to the 3rd or 4th rack. Just watching this video is very terrifying that this machine is not a toy and if you don't know how to handle it without proper training you can die. Btw i almost broke my back last month by falling out of the attic. Believe me. I know what that guy went through it was agony and pain and desperation and fear and guilt all at the same time.
Have you seen the video where a guy taps a rack with the forklift and the whole warehouse goes down like dominos? Im a pretty competent forklift driver but man, that video makes me paranoid around racks.
Seems to me it was his OWN damn fault!! Can also include supervisor and coworkers a bit for being just as STUPID since he saw them doing it too! I was a forklift trainer for years, believe me, people will try anything on a forklift, then wonder why they got hurt!!!
Hitting the wall and also they really were not there to tape the accident it was a reenactment.. Technically they could have ran over an object big enough to change it's path of travel.
there is two possibilities that comes in my mind: 1) He himself turned the steering wheel while trying to get on the forklift or 2) Assuming that in this forklift it is the front wheels that are connected to the motor there is possibility that when the forklift is turning without anyone holding the steering wheel that the centrifugal force assisted by friction to the turned rear wheels make them straighten on themselves.
The wheels were not fully rotated to 180°, so each spin caused it to successively get closer and closer to the wall. The reenactment wasn't true to exactly what happened. He fell as it was getting closer to the wall. The forklift probably hit some crap in the roadway, turning the wheels and smashing him into the wall.
i have held a forklift license for over 20 years, and even when i first started driving, i would never get off my truck and then put it in gear! i feel bad for the kid, but it was totally his fault! if he got some insurance reward from it, then he would have been VERY lucky, because that wouldnt have happened in this country
He is the simple fact to all, I am a forklift driver as well, a forklift is far more dangerous and lethal than a car will ever be. 16 year olds should not be on forklifts period
A lot of comments are very forthright and correct about a 16 year old driving or "goofing off" on a forklift....however, a good attorney would ask the company rep (1)Show me the written procedure booklet/manual GIVEN to each new employee, with the signed page that would be in the employee file (2)Show that the young man or ANY new worker has completed both written and on site training of the various vehicles the employee might be called on to use, while on the job. If either one of these is not produced...it looks like the company wasn't following industry guidelines - which I'm sure each Canadian province has...same as each state in the U.S., aside from a national safety policy....Case dismissed!
Im in construction heavy equipment etc, 45 years etc and you CANT FIX STUPID!! Obviously you sound like those Democrats thinks training and lawsuits can FIX STUPID!!! Then if we don't hire a fella that LOOKS stupid and should be in an office and NOT out in the big boys world Even us seasoned veterans gets blindsided at times BUT like this kid PANIC is what did him in Just look how he talks. mmm That said I think this vid is fiction..
John Haser lmao, you're a fucking moron. Behind a desk and not in big boys world? I'm a hvac tech and a plumber, and their is nothing wrong with doing things different than the way a school would teach you. I've never been to school for it, grew up doing this shit. So you would dare say that someone who is "stupid" or doing things " out of the ordinary" is wrong? If we always did things the same, growth would never occur. One much question a current method and try doing things that would save minutes before following idiotic orders. I suppose that's why at 27 I own a huge business and you work for others like a slave. Blessings to your stupidity.
My boy works as a lorry driver , he has worked for numerous company's .He fills out defect sheets frequently and is frequently told the lorry is booked in, it will be alright for another week this has happened on every firm he has worked for if you stand your ground they will find a way to make your life a misery and you are branded a trouble maker then you have to leave. many drivers do not do their checks so when you go on shift you inherit their defaults it can be a bloody nightmare 🇬🇧
I do operate Diesel Forklifts every day, and so do my colleagues... But everytime I ride one, I fasten the seatbelt and check out my working area everytime I operate it. Whenever I hop off of it, the parking brake is pulled. I hope mistakes like that, never happen to me in my whole life.... I feel sorry for that guy, but disobeying the safety rules where HIS Fault.
He was only following what he saw on the job. My guess is it was a non-union Job with NO training and being 16 didn't help. Lack of safety training is non- excusable
It is the employers to ensure a safe working environment and correct training and inductions are given. In NewZealand all staff going onto a workplace even if their job is as simple as sweeping the floor do a site induction and should be inducted 'into' each machine before they use it.... IE a 5 minute conversation on how to safely use this thing, with forklifts etc being given extra attention. This accident should NEVER have happened and is as much the falt of the employer than the employee....
Donald Crosby In Germany you have to obtain a licence, a personal instruction for each new model you're supposed to work with and you also need a permanent order (schriftlicher Fahrauftrag) from the company so that your superiors know that you're a) using this tools, machines or vihicles, and b) that you're qualified to do so. That's the theory: in my company we have a guy who has nothing of it except the order to use it. Not from time to time. We have like 20 guys with a licence but he is one of around five who work with such stuff all the time. If he had said no, the response of our boss would have been like: "You don't need to work here..." And normally Germany is rather a quite law abiding country.
Employers and employees share an equal responsibility to ensure a safe work environment. It is the employer's responsibility to provide proper training and equipment, free of defects or discrepancies which could compromise safety, though it is ultimately the employee's responsibility to abide by these safe work practices and maintain and use his or her equipment. Employees are also able to refuse to perform unsafe acts at work, or use unsafe equipment.
Sodiumreactor Yup, the employer should go under over it, here in murika that is illegal, I hate the gov and their regulations but some do make alot of sense.
I am a certified forklift OPERATOR with over 18 years of working EXPERIENCE of forklifts. With my training and over 18 years experience the best advice I will share is: Always drive in reverse you'll have a clear view or what and who is in your path in this video most accidents happen when the forklift is travelling forward. See the guy in the video driving with a load and crashes head-on with a forklift not moving. There was no way he could have seen ANYTHING or ANYBODY in his path, because his load was blocking his view, In a way I am happy he hit a forklift and not a person. Driving a forklift in forward too much is blocking your view i.e. the hoist - your load - but when you drive in reverse - a full clear view Driving forward is so dangerous, your forks will really do damage to inventory, building, racks, co-workers, equipment, forks should always be 4inches off the floor with or without a load. A parked forklift - raise your forks and set your forks at full forward tilt, allow the TIPS of your forks to touch the floor, Forks should NEVER touch the floor - NEVER as it allows slack on the forklift's chains, the chains on a forklift should ALWAYS have tension. There is a HUGE difference between a Forklift DRIVER and forklift OPERATOR a 12 year old can DRIVE a forklift, It takes YEARS of working with all sorts of materials to gain EXPERIENCE.. Just cause someone took a forklift course and has a forklift permit in no way does that give the him/her credit as a forklift OPERATOR... It takes YEARS of working with a forklift to claim yourself as an OPERATOR... an OPERATOR not only has his permit, he has Forklift Driving Experience, Forklift Operator Experience, and the big one, Forklift SKILLS.... Face it - Operating a forklift is an art,, it's a skill, Always wear your seatbelt - ALWAYS see the video of a drivers flying out of their lift truck upon in-pack or tilt This applies to every style of forklift. With or without a load always drive in reverse NOTE: while driving on or off a ramp then use your skills - your experience. Now for the young man I feel bad for him I really do, I hope you learn from what happened. I really hope that others learn something also With my years of experience I have learn't about employers is this They will always say your too slow and to go faster, GET IT DONE Look folks employers don't give a rats ass about workers This kid - his life changed in seconds, he broke his back using a cane to walk, I bet you he is no longer employed at that company, because HR already hired someone to take his place. Folks, no matter when you work slow or fast - bottom line is, you're going to get the same pay. So, work in a SAFE pace, and if your supervisor is demanding you to be faster, file a complaint with the HR dept. Chances are, your supervisor is on a Power Trip, File a complaint with the company, and if they do not respond then contact your local labour board. I hold the company 100% liable for what happened to this 16 yr old boy The boy and family should take legal action, this company destroyed his life. 1) They hired a minor ( shame on you ) 2) The company gave him zero training 3) The company's work place is a dangerous place, their yard should be paved, not full of pot holes - so dangerous Granted the boy operated the forklift KNOWING he should not place the forklift in drive from outside the forklift, Who would set their car in drive while standing outside the car? But again I hold the company liable for the boy's action, here is why.. In the video the boy states he has see his co-workers set their forklift in the forward ( drive ) position while NOT being seated inside the forklift. Employers SHOULD have fired those employee's on the spot or give them a stern reprimand. Followed by a staff meeting about safety, security and have all the drivers attend a re-fresher course. Employer SHAME ON YOU Double SHAME ON YOU if the company was unaware that their employee's where using their forklift while not being seated in the forklift. So Mother, Father and Son SHOULD take legal action and sue the ass off this company. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I am so sorry for this young boy and his family - such a shame - I can go on and on about this topic, as I have seen this accident happen and many many more, companies hire - I call them - COWBOYS and Race Care Drivers on forklifts. I seen a guy driving a sit-down forklift travelling forward with his forks about 3 or 4 feet high, in front of him was a Raymond Stand-up that made full stop and a stop sign. The driver of the sit down with his raised forks not paying attention drove his forks right in to the Raymond - Cutting off one of the Raymond Drivers legs - one of the forks cut off leg starting at his knee cap.... he lost his leg. He sued the company for 1.6 Million Dollars and won
+John Smith You act like operating a forklift is such an amazing accomplishment. You act like its rocket science requiring 4 years of college to know how to drive one. Literally one of the most simple pieces of equipment to learn.
+Jturn788 With the PROPER forklift Training, operators can spend time with friends and family after work at home - hot a hospital bed. The facts are in, anyone with no training will cause damage - hurt him/her/self or worst a co-worker. You just don't jump on a forklift and press the gas pedal, Shame on ANY company that allows it. Operating a forklift takes experience - training - SKILL -
" You have the "right " to refuse unsafe work practices." And please pick up your pink slip on the way out the door! Employees used to be PERSONNEL. Now they are a Human RESOURCE. A resource is a commodity to be used up by a corporation.
YEAH, AND UNIONS ARE THE ANSWER! UP THE PROLETARIAT MY SOCIALIST BROTHERS! Oh wait, that actually destroyed the American manufacturing industries and enriched gangster-affiliated Socialist unions to the detriment of every other kind of worker in America.
Im a forklift operator. Because of situations like this forklifts are now equipped with a seat sensor. No occupancy forklift will shutdown. If un equipped with this safety feature then just walk far enough away and warn others near by.
A relative of mine had been driving trucks all his life withone employer, he decides to get another job with more pay. He was helping load the new truck when he stepped backwards onto a patch ofboil which he hadn't seen and slipped off the flatbed onto the floor about 5 feet. He broke his back and ended up in a wheelchair unable to do most things for the rest of his life which was just another 7 years. As you say, complacency is the enemy of safety.
That's what a death scream sounds like but much worse. Then they whimper and cry for mother. If they are lucky they just shit themselves. Like the young man I saved from falling 26 floors to his death.
I've been driving for 3 years and I can tell you that this was incredibly easy to avoid. Jesus what a nightmare. This guy is probably much older than me now, what a waste of a life.
"if they had given me the proper training"? Really? I guess someone has to take the blame. However, it wasn't them that put the fork lift into motion while being outside of the machine.
I work in the Training department at my company and trust me, every time someone gets hurt it is the training departments fault for not training them properly.
Lack of training I would say is to blame for a lad of 16, but bear in mind you can train people all you like but nothing can stop people disobeying their training.
Harley Rider 7130. One of the most common rules of forklift safety is keep all body parts inside while operating. Especially in a tip-over because the safety cage only works when you sit inside with seatbelt. If you try to get off the lift will crush you.
In his comments though, he didn't say he was instructed to use the forklift. He just decided to move it, and figured he knew how from having watched others do it. If it wasn't part of his work duties, if he wasn't operating forklifts, then why would training be mandatory?
wow I hope John sees this! I also hurt my back badly when I was 16 how crazy I herniated my L4 L5 disc and pulled the one below and above it and I had a surgery to remove the excess dis but the surgery was unsuccessful now I deal with even more pain I broke my back lifting weights doing an exercise I was told I had to do at school or I would lose my daily points and I did it it's called bent-over rows that's when I broke my back I am now 18 still struggling with pain I can really relate to you. I pray that you grow old with a pain free life and make a good recovery.
How exactly did you break your back doing bent over rows? I'm just asking so I can avoid hurting my back myself. This comment scared the shit out of me.
I know that this is reconstruction video, but forklifts are supposed to have a 'dead man' brake. So how could this happen with no one sitting in the truck?
I'm 26 and have been driving forklifts for only a year. 1. Don't try doing things that co-workers with years of experience on machines do. 2. If your told or think somethings unsafe don't do it. 3. Don't control machine if your not in it.
Love how in the reenactment their first idea is to run to his side and then have someone else run for help instead, I don't know, moving the lift that is pinning him? That would be a start.
That can actually be a bad idea if the victim has been there a while and EMT staff are not yet on the scene. See: crush syndrome th-cam.com/video/7j_KZxaYRGQ/w-d-xo.html
Regardless of fault... It is always tough to hear about things like this. The bad thing is how many accidents there are a year on forklifts... We wish you well!
As a health and safety representative for my work. 2 parties are to blame: the driver who knew he had no training and the company for not putting safety features on the truck. A lot of trucks nowadays have safety devices which cut the power to the forklift. The company never gave any training to the lad and long hours was worked. Basic rules in forklift driving: don't drive if your tired, don't drive if your pre checks are fail or not made and under 18 are not allowed to drive at any point.
Even when driving circles, slightly changing path every round, can pin someone against a wall. The video is acted... i guess we can assume that it actually happened in some way or another.
I was going to point out how this guy said he hadn't been given the correct training, but then I thought the same as what you've said. Even without the correct training it is common sense that you don't leave it in gear and then walk away.
OSHA says you need to be certified to operate a forklift. Following their guidelines isn't optional. It's the law and employers have to do what OSHA says or run the risk of getting fines for each infraction found. Calling OSHA is the first thing you do if you get fired for refusing to do something that goes against OSHA regulations.
5LayerBurrito Yeah the ones I use won't move without you sat on the seat, automatically go into neutral when you get off, forks won't move if no one is on seat, speed sensors for high pedestrian areas, literally limits you to 4mph in certain rooms at work. The have inproved greatly.
So... let me get this straight. This guy was only 16 years old and they had him driving a forklift, and working 24 hour shifts? How is that even legal? I feel bad for the kid. After all, he was only a kid, and hadn't had much time to develop experience and common sense. Everything is new and exciting at that age, and you don't realize the risks you are taking. If they are going to allow kids to work at places like that, they need to be properly trained, and supervised!
+Jake Schreiner Forktrucks can turn literally on the spot and despite common misconception, are actually very fast for a 2-3 ton machine. It is seriously hard to hop back onto one trust me!
As soon as it turned y didnt he just put in neutral and place handbrake on? The controls were just right in front of him. There was no throttle beijng used so must be going really slow.
Our Forklifts have safety switches in the seats. It will not move until you are seated and buckled in.
Matthew Howell same with any I have used
almost all of them in , even had a 1976 forklift with that feature , this story is full of holes like how those wheels magically straightened out instantly as he slipped on a grease puddle
That's what I was saying...
Who is to say this one had it? From the story I’m hearing it’s a lot of OSHA violations on top of a kid that’s not even old enough to drive a forklift legally
Really? Great, It was unknown to me! What's the Model Name?
Its like Ralphie May says. "If you apply for a job and you can start that day, you got a bad job"
I wish I knew this earlier, the worst job I had was like that lol
@KC yeah, sometimes a company just on a bad streak of hiring morons, so they give you a place right away hoping you might be better.
Facts
Forklifts are one of the most dangerous machines ever invented. That even goes for experienced drivers , I would rather drive an 80,000lb semi any day than drive a forklift. I just don't care for how they steer.
I do agree! I know it from experience.
Safety only takes a few seconds, but injuries last a lifetime.
Stay safe everyone.
Idk why but reading your comment and looking your pfp i thought dude on the pfp was actually telling me that statement 😂😂
Well, my mum always told me "Never stand next to a forklift, shift it into reverse while not inside, while there is a puddle of hydraulic fluid on the floor".
Now I see why.
I personally don't operate a forklift I'm not fully in. If I operate a forklift, I'm going to operate it as if I'm going to be fully operating it for a good amount of time.
@@chrisgast A
I'm sorry but😂 but I'm happy he's ok
omfg bro that hit me in the funny bone.
Short cuts always end up in disaster.. Stay safe.
Thanks for your feedback. The actual forklift was moving a lot faster than depicted in this re-creation.
If you think its not safe, it probably isn't. Walk away, be safe.
under pressure from management
@@geraldhills41 thats no excuse i have had no hesitation to say wall then you do it and safety is the key do you want a work comp case for telling people to do it unsafely
@@geraldhills41 When you're management is that reckless, that's the sign that you quit, and it's a shame that he didn't get any certification from the CCOHS, because I am certain they would've taught him that first thing.
@@nxxbox-hh8gu Well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he was young and didn't know his' rights.
This is extremely important and cannot be stressed enough: THIS IS WHY CCOHS, OSHA, HSE, Comcare etc are SO IMPORTANT: So that bullshit like this is prevented in the future and workers' KNOW their rights..
Lots of people don’t have the luxury of walking away from employment.
As a maintenance mechanic, I make sure all the safety features are working correctly on the lift before it leaves my area. I'm inherently at fault if I disengage a safety mechanism and someone gets hurt, or killed. The problem is, even people who are properly trained, say "oh, it's just easier; or , I have done it a hundred times", don't realize how stupid and dangerous it really is.
Fork trucks are meant for one job. Get on, move materials, get off. It's NEVER worth risking your life to save a few seconds, ever. Be safe everyone.
Definitely, and my colleagues wonder why i tell them off for operating the truck from outside
First day on the job in construction and old dude told me, "you better watch your ass out here because ain't nobody gonna watch it for you and you definitely get killed." Best training I ever had.
"If I received the proper training..." ??? The very first thing I learned as a forklift operator was when and if you need to leave the forklift, you put it in neutral and apply the handbrake. That is any motorized vehicle...
IllegallySniped I've never ever met a person with an automatic transmission vehicle who used the parking brake ever.
Tadesan I do. It’s not good for your transmission to not use it. Why are you going to risk damage to your car because you can’t take half a second to put on the emergency brake?
Pretty sure you need to be certified legally anyway, but hey you might have a hearty payday afterwards when you sue the shit out of them
appleintosh exactly and that makes two of us, I don’t get why people even my friends do it, I’m like it’s literally just pull the brake up and that’s it, lazy asses
Tadesan have you ever met a person who leaves an auto trans vehicle in neutral? I haven't.
I'm not sure how "I'm in a high traffic area" makes one jump to the conclusion that "I need to move this forklift without being in it."
That reenactment is worthy of an Oscar. Did Hitchcock direct that masterpiece?
He did, it won 5 Oscars for best performance
Better than so called professional Hollywood actors
I have to agree the reenactment looked dangerous as fuck to film too.
Reminds me of the reenactments in Unsolved Mysteries, very well done
What reenactment? That was the actual accident.
I raise a toast to all of us who are breaking our backs everyday
Nothin' but a good time...
A forklift almost hit me.
A car almost hit me.. like every single day going to work and back
Here's to ya (guitar solo)
Damn
Well done to the cameraman for staying professional and catching a birdseye view of the accident
"You have the right to refuse unsafe work conditions?" Somebody's never worked in America.
You do have that right in America. If they fire you for it, you can sue them, because it's illegal to punish someone if they refuse to do something unsafe in a workplace.
@@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932 yeah. Third world countries are a concern
I think that's an actual thing though
@@calebchan5798 you are a concern ..😅
What do you mean? In America you absolutely have the right to refuse a job. If you refuse a job it’s not like you will be arrested, at worst you will be fired, but even then you can sue the company or find a safer job somewhere else.
At my first job in a factory, I was sorting parts one day at a table, and you wore ear protection so you couldn't hear anything--and suddenly I was thrown backward against the metal shelving and crushed and pinned-some idiot had backed a forklift into me . I screamed but couldn't even hear myself, I was trapped there for what felt like forever. Another half inch and I would have been like this poor guy or worse. I didn't even get an apology!
I hope they find a cure for spinal injuries soon.
My goodness. That is terrible. I hope you are okay. Some workplaces and people are so careless and have no regard for others safety and well being.
@@joeysfather2723 don't believe anybody on youtube. You know, I'm a doctor.
@@Endor2001 why would someone lie about that.
@@caution152 I don't know, why peoples lie?
If he didn't apologize to me for that, he'd be in a wheelchair
"Graphic content" I saw none.
"I couldn't figure out how to get back in." My dude it's going like 2 miles an hour, just jump in.
his IQ was slower than that.
@@ambientblue-eyedmonkey8849 dude, he was unproperly trained. so he couldn't think as panic went through his mind. When the human brain feels the need to start panicking you don't think straight. This makes the simplest of tasks to be hard.
Survival of the fittest man... survival of the fittest. The thing does only go like 2 miles an hour 😁
For real bruh
That was a reconstruction of the incident. The forklift was probably moving faster.
Yep same story. “Hey wanna start tomorrow? It’s part time.” Immediately worked 8 hours, 5 days a week tons of guys hurt at my warehouse because of the % you have to get or you get written up and eventually fired. People have to run stop signs, lift unsafe, work through breaks, and show up early just to make it.. every time they call in auditors to assess the standards, they let half the colleagues go home early so there’s little congestion and only keep the fastest people who work for that bonus $ so of course then the standard shoots up and is impossible to safely reach. People are having meltdowns left and right fearing for their job when it’s not physically possible to do properly. You either work unsafe and cheat times to make numbers or you work safe and eventually get fired for a low % THANK GOD i got hurt and somehow took a janitorial position but with the same high pay or the physical labor to meet #s would have disabled me by now.
What company was this?
Secretly record the unsafe work conditions and report to OSHA. You can help others from getting injured.
Older experienced workers that exploit young inexperienced staff make me sick. And not teaching a boy the do and don't of forklift operation shouldn't be in any industry.
I never knew that Justin Timberlake broke his back.
GVZ lol that’s what I thought
lol...too funny
Dirty pop
Justin Timberlake is more handsome no way.
Wish version of Justin Timberlake. They call him Justin Timberpond
Man... I wish my forklift would move with the wheels fully cranked without giving it gas.
I guess that's why forklifts don't do that anymore because shit like this gets reported and changed so people don't get hurt.
A couple caterpillar sitdowns, disable the parking brake & put it in drive/reverse, it will crawl exactly like a car would in gear without the hammer down...
They must have the kubotas lol
Teenage boys and heavy equipment are not a good combo.
Wrong!
I was running farm equipment since before I was a teenager on my family's farm. I'm sure that he was told never put a machine in gear if you're not in the operator's seat. If he really didn't get told and didn't have enough common sense to know that he was doing something extremely dangerous, then he should have stuck to his video games where he could rewind or start again from his last save.
Most warehouse guys are from EU or third world country.
@@kasam77 more likely they are truckers
I just started at UPS Monday I've been training on the docks for two days and I was told I'm the best damn forklift operator he's ever trained and I have no experience except for farm work and I'm only 18 yes it's dangerous you just got to know what you're doing
FORKLIFT SHOULD NOT BE MOVING WHEN U ARE NOT PHYSICALLY ON IT. FURTHERMORE, WHAT WAS HE DOING OPERATING IT AT AGE 16?
+DASHAN WHEELER i work on a farm and im almost 18 now but i was running tractors and things like a forklift where nothing. and ive been workin there for years now. 16 year olds drive cars they can drive forkfits too lol
+2shotsgaming Just because they CAN doesn't mean they do it right or professionally, SKILL takes time to acquire and arrogance cannot make up for it friend. I thought I was such a hot shot driver when I was 18 yeah ok whatever, I've wore out several vehicles over the years, trust me you don't really know how to drive like a seasoned skilled person, you will have to grow to get there.
I grew up raising cattle, a tractor is a different animal than a fork lift, your tractor isn't going to reach as high as most, I've driven several tractors and a few fork lifts, they aren't the same at all.
What if you need to readjust your ass, going 5mph with a stack of pallets? Do you think it's safer for the forklift to keep moving or to stop and throw all the pallets forward?
Misaka Mikoto Sometimes a person has to grow up and deal with discomfort to maintain safety, life isn't always easy going and comfortable, or maybe said person should adjust their butt and getting that part right before starting.
IF the pallets are going to fall off because of stopping then someone needs to find another jobby because they clearly don't know what they are doing to start with, anything can happen and the operator need to stop.
Then again someone that likes that satanic 6 point star obviously has problems thinking things through to begin with.
DASHAN WHEELER ha i did it at 13 in 1967 thats how i learned manual
I cant work out how he could not just jump back in as it was open on both sides
***** Not enough training on the dangers, I feel sorry but some of these accidents seem preventable
+m beginization accidents are inherently all preventable. we can have rules and laws all we like but we are inherently flawed as a species because we make the rules and we break them to suit our need.
supercooled I have met some who attract accidents like magnets
in the moment certain people think differently, he probably was freaking out.
kaw kaw Its very sad but he should have just let it turn in circles till it got jammed against a pallet
Wait a second. He stated "I put the forklift into gear when not in it, which I was told was strictly forbidden." Then at the end of the video he states "If they had given me the proper training." WTF? He just admitted that he did not listen to them. I hope to hell this guy did not win any lawsuits in relation to this one.
i think he meant that he figured it out after
When operating this type of equipment, training is essential and required. Someone as young as he was at the time shouldn’t even be operating a forklift. Thank you for sharing this story.
Makes me glad my Crown 5500 at work has a dead man plate and that if you leave the lift, it stops because once you take our left foot off the pedal, it is effectively like parking the lift. Aint been driving a lift long, but one thing I do know is that you can NEVER take a forklift lightly. Thousands of pounds of force is unforgiving, even at slow speeds.
Common sense,Wow,why would you ever put yourself in harms way,deliberately, and then whine about it?
that's because you have a reach truck and not a fork lift. forklifts don't have a dead man peddle because you need both feet to operate it. but you don't need your feet to operate a reach truck, it's all done by hand and you're standing up with no harnesses to keep you inside the machine so you need a deadman peddle in a reach truck.
Anything that deals with hydraulic or diesel will not stop at anything and will crush everything in its path.
"If you get a Proper training" yet he says that what he did was a no no. So apparently he got the proper but didn't follow it!
Putting something in gear while not being in it. Really, who does that
I'm so glad he's alive to tell about it and it should be a major forklift safety video.
My first job ever was driving a forklift when I was 16. I got no training whatsoever but I sure knew better than putting it in gear while I wasn't in it. Seemed like common sense to me. I worked that job until I went to college with no accidents. You just have to have respect for anything you drive. 👍
passed exam today for fork reach and bendi truck but keep realizing that you can never lose focus when working with these awesome machines.
i mean come on i understand you were never trained but its common sense. do not try to move heavy equipment by standing next to it.
brigid trigsted Hey wasn't trying to move anything. He got off the forklift to do something work-related (like pick scraps from the floor or something), and while he was off of it he accidentally touched the gearshift lever causing the forklift to move on its own. The kid obviously wasn't experienced or trained enough to deal with the situation that came up. At my workplace, they always remind drivers to remove their keys from the ignition when they're not on the forklift so that situations like this are avoided in the first place.
brigid trigsted He got off the forklift and the thing started spinning around. If not stopped it would cause lots of damage and the boy would be paying for all those damage and maybe gets terminated from work. So being inexperienced, he panicked. He was not able to act appropriately and fast enough. Then he slipped down because of some oil spill on the driveway. He fell down and got pinned by the heavy equipment. He lacked the training. It is the duty of the management to give him proper training before he can do his task. Other safety precautions were overlooked too like supervision and housekeeping.
Jennifer Vistal he shouldn't of operated it while not in it.... Would you put your car in gear from outside? No... Im sure nobody every told you not to do that, its common sense.
Auxilio mi socio se accidentó con la montacarga socorro enfermera llévenlo pal policlínico y a la Mutual De Seguridad porfavor.
***** I am an experienced rugby player and forklift operator, Dude you welcome to try and jump on several ton's of moving machinery, The guy was over keen tried to do use a piece of potentially lethal machinery and was lucky to live
Would you put your car in gear and start it while standing outside with no seatbelt on?
Surely everyone must realise you cannot control a vehicle from the outside! He was astute enough to know the site had high vehicular traffic so decided to move the fork truck. But in all my years as a driver (I started driving aged 15 and before I was 16 I drove a Toyota 20 diesel fork truck) I have never understood why people think it is safe to operate machines like this young man did or to stick an arm into an auger or a tree chipper!? My son is almost 5 and I drum it into him that vehicles are dangerous machines that can and do kill. I pray every day he will be safe.....
jonny andre Neither does bugs bunny, he too does not actually exist!
Yea something tells me he never got that training as a kid. Did you hear his dad talking? lol
So basically it was his fault
That's what I got out of it.
It’s the employer’s fault because they should’ve hired someone so young without the proper training
By law ... it is the company's fault
No its not
Its the fault of both
First thing I realized when I was operating a forklift was to respect the torque of these things! It's usually the weight and HUGE amount of low speed torque these monsters have that cause most accidents, not how "fast" the forklift is actually going.. Be safe people!
Exactly, driving a forklift is like having the power of the incredible Hulk but trying to write with a mechanical pencil with 0.5mm lead . I remember when I started at Sam's Club and we had Raymond reach trucks we used on our shifts, they were the standing forklifts with a deadman switch . I had this older guy train me in, he had worked there for like 20 years . Before work he would say a prayer and on the back of his reflective vest it read the words "may the forks be with you " . Just because he was experienced the dude knew that all it takes is the one time where you had an argument with your wife the night before and lack of sleep or someone didn't stack a pallet right on their previous shift. That little lapse in judgment is all it takes man . I don't really care how the forklifts steer from the back and they're really touchy, it takes some getting used to . All these young kids want to prove they can do it to and say look ma no hands and they have no idea how dangerous they are . 9000lbs with the force that can go through a brick wall .
Who in the hell does that it would have been easier and faster just to move it like a normal person would
2:32 If you take the ebreak off and put it in gear it will move. driving any thing 101
Depends on what the power is and wheel position. The first forklift I learned on if the wheels were cranked all the way like in this video and you didn't give it gas it would stall out. But a more powerful forklift or if the wheels are straight or not turned much can move when in gear without any gas. It really depends on the engine. And electric forklift won't move at all without any power on the pedal.
I have a year experience so far and I'm in my late 20's. This guy was 16 with no training and broke his back... that's awful
how do you not get back on it when it is going that slow
Because it's a RE-ENACTMENT with an actor, the real accident happened with a forklift no doubt going MUCH faster, they had this one going the slowest possible so the actor doesn't get injured or killed for a video
Plus, panic and lack of experience. 🙁🍍
3:59 "Are you okay?! What happened?!" Yes he was actually about to take a nap, until you ran up screaming, no he isn't okay. Jk
"What happened" "clearly sees forklift crushing a man on the ground. 🙄🤔" 😂
If only he had been trained better, he said. Sounds like hes not taking ownership
I don't understand why he put in gear and released the brakes when he wasn't in it
I operate a equipment similar to a forklift and it's safe is when the operator is off the equipment it automatically stops. It's a safety precaution.
Very powerful message.
I spent 32 years working at Honda Canada Mfg and will say safety was paramount.
If there is such a thing as too safe, they had it pinned.
Everyone should work in a safe environment and Honda provided that.
There is an expectation of the associates as well.
Be aware, accidents can and do happen
You may as well start you car, stick it in drive and wonder why it crept Frwd 😩
lol
When I was 16 I worked at a warehouse that distributed beauty supplies. They’d raise me up on the forks, no pallet, just holding the fence with one foot on each fork, to go up 5-6 shelves (approximately 40 feet) to retrieve a box or two, balance it on one for an hold my hand on top while holding my only lifeline-the gate, with the other hand. I did this many, many times. I’m 32 now and think how stupid I was to be risking my life for $9/hr like that. Like this guy, I had seen others do it since I started, I was young, and you don’t want to say no at a new job.
Months after I left there, someone doing the same thing as me had his fingers on both hands crushed against a ceiling beam when the operator wasnt paying attention and raised him up too far.
Be safe, dont do anything you know isnt right, speak up, and QUIT if things arent changing or getting better. No money is worth your well-being.
That’s not OSHA safe and if they ever get caught they’ll be hell to pay let’s just say! 😂
"if I had received the proper training..." I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have known automatically not to attempt to operate the forklift outside of the forklift. I work around a fork lift all day and I knew the first day of being around one that that's something you should NEVER do and I have never received a minute of training nor operated a forklift. I feel bad for him but it's entirely his fault.
He was *16* and he says he'd seen his coworkers doing it as well. The business was 100% responsible for letting a kid operate this heavy equipment without supervision or proper training and for having, apparently, zero safety culture on site.
As a forklift operator for little over 7yrs it’s something u gotta take it seriously and this injured could have been prevented if he get on n moved only take u 5 sec but he decided to do the lazy way or unsafe now is change his life forever never back to normal. Poor guy at least he’s alive. SAFETY FIRST
Even with proper training people do not follow the rules because jobs push you faster and harder to get more production out of you and you make it unsafe by trying to shave off seconds from safety.
SlackersIndustry I agree.Because how many people on the highway follow the rules or laws
I agree with you man. Many jobs don't care about the safety of employees. They care about the job being done without noticing the danger they're causing.
Jobs push you faster because your boss give 1 dollar more per hour and you have to work twice fast
Take a short cut get by your a hero. Take a short cut mess up it's your fault and everyone hates you
Then such "jobs" or companies should be reported to OSHA. If a company is going to risk lives for profit, then they should be put out of business and even charged of criminal (and civil?) acts. The only types of professions that OSHA can't do much about are the medical field and law enforcement field. Danger comes with the job in those types of fields.
Being crushed by a 9,000lb forklift has to be the most painful this man has ever experienced, Good this he is ok now
I had my left calf muscle ripped off slowly by a forklift when I was 19 years old. They can be very dangerous when not respected.
Hi, John, thank you for your courage to share your painful disability story. Permanent disability can happen to anyone at any time in BC, and the issue is not how or why it happened, but what comes next for the disabled worker! The sad truth is BC is aggressive and hostile to its disabled workers. Did you know that disabled workers are judged and marginalised by long-term disability benefits resolution systems that are corrupt?
i drove a forklift for 3 months. I tell you i have never been so scared in my life every time i lifted a 2000 lbs pallet onto to the 3rd or 4th rack. Just watching this video is very terrifying that this machine is not a toy and if you don't know how to handle it without proper training you can die. Btw i almost broke my back last month by falling out of the attic. Believe me. I know what that guy went through it was agony and pain and desperation and fear and guilt all at the same time.
Have you seen the video where a guy taps a rack with the forklift and the whole warehouse goes down like dominos? Im a pretty competent forklift driver but man, that video makes me paranoid around racks.
So he didn't know it was unsafe to operate a machine without actually being in the machine? Don't play the blame game
“Is he competent in using this machine?” No sir he isnt.
Seems to me it was his OWN damn fault!! Can also include supervisor and coworkers a bit for being just as STUPID since he saw them doing it too! I was a forklift trainer for years, believe me, people will try anything on a forklift, then wonder why they got hurt!!!
The man broke his back. Be kind
how did the wheels go straight all of a sudden?
Thats right, weird
Hitting the wall and also they really were not there to tape the accident it was a reenactment.. Technically they could have ran over an object big enough to change it's path of travel.
cos its a reenactment, not the actual video of him almost dying.
there is two possibilities that comes in my mind:
1) He himself turned the steering wheel while trying to get on the forklift or
2) Assuming that in this forklift it is the front wheels that are connected to the motor there is possibility that when the forklift is turning without anyone holding the steering wheel that the centrifugal force assisted by friction to the turned rear wheels make them straighten on themselves.
The wheels were not fully rotated to 180°, so each spin caused it to successively get closer and closer to the wall. The reenactment wasn't true to exactly what happened. He fell as it was getting closer to the wall. The forklift probably hit some crap in the roadway, turning the wheels and smashing him into the wall.
i have held a forklift license for over 20 years, and even when i first started driving, i would never get off my truck and then put it in gear! i feel bad for the kid, but it was totally his fault! if he got some insurance reward from it, then he would have been VERY lucky, because that wouldnt have happened in this country
He is the simple fact to all, I am a forklift driver as well, a forklift is far more dangerous and lethal than a car will ever be. 16 year olds should not be on forklifts period
A lot of comments are very forthright and correct about a 16 year old driving or "goofing off" on a forklift....however, a good attorney would ask the company rep (1)Show me the written procedure booklet/manual GIVEN to each new employee, with the signed page that would be in the employee file (2)Show that the young man or ANY new worker has completed both written and on site training of the various vehicles the employee might be called on to use, while on the job. If either one of these is not produced...it looks like the company wasn't following industry guidelines - which I'm sure each Canadian province has...same as each state in the U.S., aside from a national safety policy....Case dismissed!
Im in construction heavy equipment etc, 45 years etc and you CANT FIX STUPID!! Obviously you sound like those Democrats thinks training and lawsuits can FIX STUPID!!! Then if we don't hire a fella that LOOKS stupid and should be in an office and NOT out in the big boys world Even us seasoned veterans gets blindsided at times BUT like this kid PANIC is what did him in Just look how he talks. mmm That said I think this vid is fiction..
John Haser lmao, you're a fucking moron. Behind a desk and not in big boys world? I'm a hvac tech and a plumber, and their is nothing wrong with doing things different than the way a school would teach you. I've never been to school for it, grew up doing this shit. So you would dare say that someone who is "stupid" or doing things " out of the ordinary" is wrong? If we always did things the same, growth would never occur. One much question a current method and try doing things that would save minutes before following idiotic orders. I suppose that's why at 27 I own a huge business and you work for others like a slave. Blessings to your stupidity.
And after accident bosses and manager's washt hands 👐
Seems like a smart kid.. but a bonehead move
How did he get a job driving forklift without having the certificate?
My boy works as a lorry driver , he has worked for numerous company's .He fills out defect sheets frequently and is frequently told the lorry is booked in, it will be alright for another week this has happened on every firm he has worked for if you stand your ground they will find a way to make your life a misery and you are branded a trouble maker then you have to leave. many drivers do not do their checks so when you go on shift you inherit their defaults it can be a bloody nightmare 🇬🇧
I do operate Diesel Forklifts every day, and so do my colleagues...
But everytime I ride one, I fasten the seatbelt and check out my working area everytime I operate it. Whenever I hop off of it, the parking brake is pulled.
I hope mistakes like that, never happen to me in my whole life....
I feel sorry for that guy, but disobeying the safety rules where HIS Fault.
He was only following what he saw on the job. My guess is it was a non-union Job with NO training and being 16 didn't help. Lack of safety training is non- excusable
It is the employers to ensure a safe working environment and correct training and inductions are given. In NewZealand all staff going onto a workplace even if their job is as simple as sweeping the floor do a site induction and should be inducted 'into' each machine before they use it.... IE a 5 minute conversation on how to safely use this thing, with forklifts etc being given extra attention. This accident should NEVER have happened and is as much the falt of the employer than the employee....
Donald Crosby In Germany you have to obtain a licence, a personal instruction for each new model you're supposed to work with and you also need a permanent order (schriftlicher Fahrauftrag) from the company so that your superiors know that you're a) using this tools, machines or vihicles, and b) that you're qualified to do so.
That's the theory: in my company we have a guy who has nothing of it except the order to use it. Not from time to time. We have like 20 guys with a licence but he is one of around five who work with such stuff all the time.
If he had said no, the response of our boss would have been like: "You don't need to work here..."
And normally Germany is rather a quite law abiding country.
Employers and employees share an equal responsibility to ensure a safe work environment. It is the employer's responsibility to provide proper training and equipment, free of defects or discrepancies which could compromise safety, though it is ultimately the employee's responsibility to abide by these safe work practices and maintain and use his or her equipment. Employees are also able to refuse to perform unsafe acts at work, or use unsafe equipment.
ATSoldier i been a diesel mechanic for 44 years and i studied and still driven fork lift s and what this occurred is just unthinkable
I would have just walked away and let the thing keep spinning.
24 hours you bugging son
I work to live
Not live to work
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On his last statement
Most forklifts sound off with a alarm when the park breaks not on when you leave the seat
why all towmotors should have a seat shutoff...if your not in the seat it won't move!
+fste de Last one I rented trans wouldn't engage unless you were on the seat.
+fste de people will just put something on the seat
+Luca Fuoco minimum weight requirement is about 45KG. Won't work that easily.
+fste de Why teenage kids should not be running motorized equipment.
Sodiumreactor
Yup, the employer should go under over it, here in murika that is illegal, I hate the gov and their regulations but some do make alot of sense.
I am a certified forklift OPERATOR with over 18 years of working EXPERIENCE of forklifts.
With my training and over 18 years experience the best advice I will share is:
Always drive in reverse you'll have a clear view or what and who is in your path
in this video most accidents happen when the forklift is travelling forward.
See the guy in the video driving with a load and crashes head-on with a forklift not moving. There was no way he could have seen ANYTHING or ANYBODY in his path, because his load was blocking his view,
In a way I am happy he hit a forklift and not a person.
Driving a forklift in forward too much is blocking your view
i.e. the hoist - your load - but when you drive in reverse - a full clear view
Driving forward is so dangerous, your forks will really do damage to inventory, building, racks, co-workers, equipment, forks should always be 4inches off the floor with or without a load.
A parked forklift - raise your forks and set your forks at full forward tilt, allow the TIPS of your forks to touch the floor, Forks should NEVER touch the floor - NEVER as it allows slack on the forklift's chains, the chains on a forklift should ALWAYS have tension.
There is a HUGE difference between a Forklift DRIVER and forklift OPERATOR
a 12 year old can DRIVE a forklift,
It takes YEARS of working with all sorts of materials to gain EXPERIENCE..
Just cause someone took a forklift course and has a forklift permit in no way does that give the him/her credit as a forklift OPERATOR... It takes YEARS of working with a forklift to claim yourself as an OPERATOR... an OPERATOR not only has his permit, he has Forklift Driving Experience, Forklift Operator Experience, and the big one, Forklift SKILLS.... Face it - Operating a forklift is an art,, it's a skill,
Always wear your seatbelt - ALWAYS
see the video of a drivers flying out of their lift truck upon in-pack or tilt
This applies to every style of forklift.
With or without a load always drive in reverse
NOTE: while driving on or off a ramp then use your skills - your experience.
Now for the young man
I feel bad for him I really do, I hope you learn from what happened.
I really hope that others learn something also
With my years of experience I have learn't about employers is this
They will always say your too slow and to go faster, GET IT DONE
Look folks employers don't give a rats ass about workers
This kid - his life changed in seconds, he broke his back using a cane to walk, I bet you he is no longer employed at that company, because HR already hired someone to take his place. Folks, no matter when you work slow or fast - bottom line is, you're going to get the same pay. So, work in a SAFE pace, and if your supervisor is demanding you to be faster, file a complaint with the HR dept. Chances are, your supervisor is on a Power Trip, File a complaint with the company, and if they do not respond then contact your local labour board.
I hold the company 100% liable for what happened to this 16 yr old boy
The boy and family should take legal action, this company destroyed his life.
1) They hired a minor ( shame on you )
2) The company gave him zero training
3) The company's work place is a dangerous place, their yard should be paved, not full of pot holes - so dangerous
Granted the boy operated the forklift KNOWING he should not place the forklift in drive from outside the forklift,
Who would set their car in drive while standing outside the car?
But again I hold the company liable for the boy's action, here is why..
In the video the boy states he has see his co-workers set their forklift in the forward ( drive ) position while NOT being seated inside the forklift.
Employers SHOULD have fired those employee's on the spot or give them a stern reprimand. Followed by a staff meeting about safety, security and have all the drivers attend a re-fresher course. Employer SHAME ON YOU
Double SHAME ON YOU if the company was unaware that their employee's where using their forklift while not being seated in the forklift.
So Mother, Father and Son SHOULD take legal action and sue the ass off this company.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I am so sorry for this young boy and his family - such a shame -
I can go on and on about this topic, as I have seen this accident happen and many many more, companies hire - I call them - COWBOYS and Race Care Drivers on forklifts.
I seen a guy driving a sit-down forklift travelling forward with his forks about 3 or 4 feet high, in front of him was a Raymond Stand-up that made full stop and a stop sign.
The driver of the sit down with his raised forks not paying attention drove his forks right in to the Raymond - Cutting off one of the Raymond Drivers legs - one of the forks cut off leg starting at his knee cap.... he lost his leg.
He sued the company for 1.6 Million Dollars and won
+John Smith You act like operating a forklift is such an amazing accomplishment. You act like its rocket science requiring 4 years of college to know how to drive one. Literally one of the most simple pieces of equipment to learn.
+Jturn788
With the PROPER forklift Training, operators can spend time with friends and family after work at home - hot a hospital bed.
The facts are in, anyone with no training will cause damage - hurt him/her/self or worst a co-worker.
You just don't jump on a forklift and press the gas pedal,
Shame on ANY company that allows it.
Operating a forklift takes experience - training - SKILL -
Um he knew what he was doing was wrong but still did it anyeays.
" You have the "right " to refuse unsafe work practices." And please pick up your pink slip on the way out the door! Employees used to be PERSONNEL. Now they are a Human RESOURCE. A resource is a commodity to be used up by a corporation.
+MusketeerinFlorida I've noticed the change. HR used to be advocates for the workers. Now HR always looks out for the best interests of the company.
+Rat Man unions are the same
You know that is true. but people who refuse it or report it are unlikely to be hired by other companies. sad but true
YEAH, AND UNIONS ARE THE ANSWER!
UP THE PROLETARIAT MY SOCIALIST BROTHERS!
Oh wait, that actually destroyed the American manufacturing industries and enriched gangster-affiliated Socialist unions to the detriment of every other kind of worker in America.
Alex Tocqueville Yes thay are it would have been properly trained and second of all he would have been there when he was 16 either
Yo, that forklift backbreaker was some final destination shit.
He is lucky to be still alive!
Im a forklift operator. Because of situations like this forklifts are now equipped with a seat sensor. No occupancy forklift will shutdown. If un equipped with this safety feature then just walk far enough away and warn others near by.
It's simple; hire people with common sense
Way, WAY easier said than done.
James B yeah thats y minors shouldnt operate heavy machinery
Sense aint so common with some ppl
Common sense is obtained through experience.
the problem with that is "common sense isn't too common"
A relative of mine had been driving trucks all his life withone employer, he decides to get another job with more pay. He was helping load the new truck when he stepped backwards onto a patch ofboil which he hadn't seen and slipped off the flatbed onto the floor about 5 feet. He broke his back and ended up in a wheelchair unable to do most things for the rest of his life which was just another 7 years.
As you say, complacency is the enemy of safety.
Alright calm down with that scream, you’re an actor in a workplace safety video not a Hollywood movie.
Rofl
That's what a death scream sounds like but much worse. Then they whimper and cry for mother. If they are lucky they just shit themselves. Like the young man I saved from falling 26 floors to his death.
He acted the scene perfectly, the guys just had his back broken?
No, it was perfectly acted 🤷
Sound like a hater who prob struggles with acting and doesnt know how to appeal to emotion
I've been driving for 3 years and I can tell you that this was incredibly easy to avoid. Jesus what a nightmare. This guy is probably much older than me now, what a waste of a life.
What was he actually trying to achieve?
I can only guess that he wasnt good at reversing, so wanted to watch the forklift reverse from outside
I love how in the reenactment they ran to hold his hand instead of move the obvious giant forklift off of him.
"if they had given me the proper training"? Really? I guess someone has to take the blame. However, it wasn't them that put the fork lift into motion while being outside of the machine.
I work in the Training department at my company and trust me, every time someone gets hurt it is the training departments fault for not training them properly.
In this case, it was their fault for not giving him proper training
Lack of training I would say is to blame for a lad of 16, but bear in mind you can train people all you like but nothing can stop people disobeying their training.
Harley Rider 7130. One of the most common rules of forklift safety is keep all body parts inside while operating. Especially in a tip-over because the safety cage only works when you sit inside with seatbelt. If you try to get off the lift will crush you.
In his comments though, he didn't say he was instructed to use the forklift. He just decided to move it, and figured he knew how from having watched others do it.
If it wasn't part of his work duties, if he wasn't operating forklifts, then why would training be mandatory?
wow I hope John sees this! I also hurt my back badly when I was 16 how crazy I herniated my L4 L5 disc and pulled the one below and above it and I had a surgery to remove the excess dis but the surgery was unsuccessful now I deal with even more pain I broke my back lifting weights doing an exercise I was told I had to do at school or I would lose my daily points and I did it it's called bent-over rows that's when I broke my back I am now 18 still struggling with pain I can really relate to you. I pray that you grow old with a pain free life and make a good recovery.
How exactly did you break your back doing bent over rows? I'm just asking so I can avoid hurting my back myself. This comment scared the shit out of me.
He protec
He attac
But most importantly
He break his bac
I work in warehouses and have seen places where production seemed to be more important than safety.
I know that this is reconstruction video, but forklifts are supposed to have a 'dead man' brake. So how could this happen with no one sitting in the truck?
Most the older models don't have a deadmans switch, and newer models just need a slap to the seat with your hand to let it go into gear
I'm 26 and have been driving forklifts for only a year.
1. Don't try doing things that co-workers with years of experience on machines do.
2. If your told or think somethings unsafe don't do it.
3. Don't control machine if your not in it.
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO, WE MADE MISTAKES, THANKS FOR TEACHING US WHAT NOT TO DO ....GLAD YOU ARE ALIVE!!!!
Love how in the reenactment their first idea is to run to his side and then have someone else run for help instead, I don't know, moving the lift that is pinning him? That would be a start.
That can actually be a bad idea if the victim has been there a while and EMT staff are not yet on the scene. See: crush syndrome th-cam.com/video/7j_KZxaYRGQ/w-d-xo.html
Regardless of fault... It is always tough to hear about things like this. The bad thing is how many accidents there are a year on forklifts... We wish you well!
As a health and safety representative for my work.
2 parties are to blame: the driver who knew he had no training and the company for not putting safety features on the truck. A lot of trucks nowadays have safety devices which cut the power to the forklift. The company never gave any training to the lad and long hours was worked.
Basic rules in forklift driving: don't drive if your tired, don't drive if your pre checks are fail or not made and under 18 are not allowed to drive at any point.
He should not even have been on the worksite since he was younge
*The wheels were turned* Falls, as forklift magically straightens out and pins him against a wall. xD
Even when driving circles, slightly changing path every round, can pin someone against a wall. The video is acted... i guess we can assume that it actually happened in some way or another.
I was going to point out how this guy said he hadn't been given the correct training, but then I thought the same as what you've said. Even without the correct training it is common sense that you don't leave it in gear and then walk away.
lol reminds ya of somethin you'd see in the Three Stooges.
OSHA says you need to be certified to operate a forklift. Following their guidelines isn't optional. It's the law and employers have to do what OSHA says or run the risk of getting fines for each infraction found. Calling OSHA is the first thing you do if you get fired for refusing to do something that goes against OSHA regulations.
Never work more than 12 hours
+Clive Ellis could you let my company know that?
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+boogerdeluxe 22 You don't have to do more than 12 hours in a day, but you can work it in some jobs if you wanted to.
+Clive Ellis My job i work 12 hours all day on a forklift and there are days you make stupid errors due to not paying attention for all 12 hours.
Hydrogen Peroxide That sounds sucky
You sound like a modern dystopian society's wet dream.
So much for taking an approved forklift course, being trained, tested and licenced.
forklifts have gotten better so no worries kids
5LayerBurrito yea, they don't even run without you in the seat.
5LayerBurrito Yeah the ones I use won't move without you sat on the seat, automatically go into neutral when you get off, forks won't move if no one is on seat, speed sensors for high pedestrian areas, literally limits you to 4mph in certain rooms at work. The have inproved greatly.
So... let me get this straight. This guy was only 16 years old and they had him driving a forklift, and working 24 hour shifts? How is that even legal? I feel bad for the kid. After all, he was only a kid, and hadn't had much time to develop experience and common sense. Everything is new and exciting at that age, and you don't realize the risks you are taking. If they are going to allow kids to work at places like that, they need to be properly trained, and supervised!
It couldn't have been that hard to hop back on it at the speed it was moving. The reenactment made it look like he dancing around the forklift.
+Jake Schreiner Forktrucks can turn literally on the spot and despite common misconception, are actually very fast for a 2-3 ton machine. It is seriously hard to hop back onto one trust me!
As soon as it turned y didnt he just put in neutral and place handbrake on? The controls were just right in front of him. There was no throttle beijng used so must be going really slow.
they can't really show how it was actually moving without risking the actor's safety as well...
No, he was dancing WITH the forklift. There's a difference.
Of course they would probably try to sue the employer as if it's somehow their fault...