When the Boxster first came out I took one for a test drive. While it wasn’t particularly fast, it was the most balanced, best handling sports car I’d ever driven! And then my brain immediately flipped into pondering the best way to put more go in that motor.
to anyone that hates on the Porsche Boxster go drive one rent one buy one borrow one from my friend. Go drive one get your hands on one and get behind the driver seat The first generation 986 or the second generation 987 S you will change your mind about it
Many people prefer the Cayman over the 911 for road racing as it handles better due to engine placement. BTW - Comparing the Boxster from the 90's with a 2020's Cayman/Boxster is ridiculous.
987.1 Boxster S owner here. 1st as an avid attender of PCA official meet-ups. I'm typically out numbered 20:1 on 911 to Boxster ratios. There isn't any sighing going on by the 911 owners. Secondly the same engine issues detailed for the Boxster existed for the 996 and 997 Porsches, so there wasn't any additional stigma to the Boxster due to those issues. Finally, part of this drama stems from the EU banning cars that don't meet some cybersecurity standard and as such Porsche is killing the line sooner (as detailed by the Smokin Tire review of the Macan EV) Finally, The 1999 and 2000 996 shares 86% of it's parts from the doors forward with the Boxster ('97-'04)., so there is that.
I like April and Hoovie but sometimes they comment on things that they have zero experience with and just shouldn't make assumptions based on nothing. They are kind of vehicle snobs, which is disappointing.
@@neilchirico Absolutely, most of the time they are just talking out of their *ss*s or, at best, quoting real journalists and their articles but I guess channels like these are just about views and not necessarily about providing evidence-based information anyway.
I'm not one to use terms like triggered, but dang Tyler, you've done it. I'm a guy who owned a 981 Cayman S, a Macan GTS and a 981 GT3. My 981 Cayman S had the same 3.4L engine as 991 911 Carrera. The only Porsches that I recall people objecting to were the 914, which was originally a VW. The 924 and even the 928 which was actually going to replace the 911 until one person at Porsche convinced them otherwise. BTW, I like all the models I just mentioned. I loved the way the 981 Cayman S handled but at $87k when new, it was expensive. It was a PDK car and I added Soul Performance Street headers paired with the Porsche Sport Exhaust and it sounded glorious. In launch mode, that screaming flat 6 would get anyone's attention. I've also owned a Lotus Europa, a Lotus Esprit Turbo SE and an Esprit Turb S4 S. We were invited to a Ferrari club drive once and those guys definitely seemed annoyed that we were there. We also did burnouts when leaving the parking area too just as a courtesy.
@@AAS-gw5mb "more than 32,000 912s were built from April 1965 to July 1969" The 914 came out shortly after that and there was no need for a 4 cylinder 911.
Absurd, and majorly misinformed video Hoovie. As someone that has owned two previous 911's. (996, and a 997 S manual), and now owns a 981 Cayman S manual, I don't miss my 911's at all. The Cayman is a much more engaging, better balanced, and better sized vehicle to drive. 991's and 992's are too large, and have become more of a rich man's toy to flex. They are less enthusiast oriented. Soon, I will be adding a Cayman GT4 to my stable, and it's not that I can't afford a 991, or a 992, I certainly can, but for what I want, the GT4 is the better drivers car.
I like the whole Porsche line up but just like the Caymans styling better than the 911 IMO. It's different in a good way in the slew.of 911s all over the road.
Wow you guys dropped the ball on this one with a very elitest attitude. The Cayman, esp the later 981 and 718 generations, are known as some of the best sports cars around - edging out the 911 in many ways. Look at the GT4 and GT4 RS for even more proof. IMS / RMS troubles ended in 2009 so you need to gen up on the last 15 years of Porsche progress.
I can remember being able to look in the mirror day or night and to be able to accurate identify any car out there, even the rarely seen exotics. That changed and when it did, I stopped trying to keep up with the cars that now seemed to mostly look alike.. for the most part. It was time to choose a genre I could concentrate on and enjoy. I picked a half dozen.. :) But you get the point.
Being a lifelong Porschephile and having had/have 911s and Boxsters, I think Porsche is making a grave mistake by abandoning the cheaper car concept; the Boxster, when introduced in '97, was very instrumental in pulling Porsche back from the brink of bankruptcy. Oh how short are the memories in Stuttgart.
Or maybe they remember well, and know what it takes to be saved from bankruptcy again. The gas industry is getting decimated right now, and won’t be saved by nostalgic boomer/luddite types who now only hang on to engine sounds. It’s time to evolve. Again.
I think this one may come back to hurt Porsche. Don't take you're entry level car away. The 986 had been their savior and as someone who owned one (and really wants a 987.2 cayman) it was a FANTASTIC car. Probably my favorite car I've owned to date.
Their "Savior" is the Macan and the Cayenne... literally saved the company and pays for all the sports cars. They will continue to provide options there for at least another product cycle for their profit drivers but this change makes sense for them based on global portfolio requirements...for that they need to go EV to satisfy rules is EU, China,etc (heck even in California) where they sell just as many if not more vehicles as they sell in the US (and rest of the US in Cali's case (and compact states))...
@@triaxe-mmbthey don’t have to do any of this globally. Other manufacturers like Ferrari and Lamborghini currently sell in California, China and Europe will continue to without being forced to go E.V as you are making it out to be. The manufacturers just more monetary incentives to make more electric cars. So it’s just a better way to make more profit for Porsche. Just like Dodge is doing now. While the customers hate it. And won’t touch their cars like the Hornet. 😂
Stelantis axed all their V8 vehicles. A company that is ran from Europe that run on ev ethos. While Ford still make their V8 powered Mustang. In a few variants.
@@bryangillis1839they’ll have to re introduce it again in 2 years once this panty wearing administration at least in the U.S is finally gone in the fall. Not only for car enthusiasts that want to buy them but also to keep their company from going bankrupt like E.V company Fisker.
Picturing the guys pulling up to the Porsche meet in their "real Porsche" to find a bunch of Boxters reminds me of going to Austin Healey meets with my dad when I was a kid. He had/has a 1967 3000 and the club was initially full of other big Healeys, along with a few Bug Eye Sprites. I vividly remember the first meet we showed up to and saw a pack of Jensens... My dad refused to call them Healeys. Now that I'm older and understand what turds they are I get it, but at the time I didn't understand the snobbery towards them. In reality, I don't have much love for the goofy little Sprites either!
I just attended a HPDE trackday at Barber Motorsports Park in Alabama. Out of the 176 drivers, I'd say a vast majority had a Cayman/Boxster or one of the variants (never seen so many GT4's in one place). 911's were actually quite rare. Of course the occasional GT3, but not much more
I have had three Cayman's now. Two 987.2 manuals and currently a 981 PDK. I like the Boxster. But generally prefer a MX5 or S2000 for my convertible fix. I personally think the MX5s and S2000 in general look better. The Cayman has been my introduction to Porsche ownership. Which has made me fall in love with the brand and now want to buy a Macan as a daily etc. Same applies with the Hondas and Mazdas. While there is a tonne of money and demand for EVs and SUVs in China. I think as interest rates increase. And people cant stretch their budget as far for luxury cars. I think having more accessible Porsche sports cars should still be a priority to continue to encourage people into the brand. Motorsport and sports cars are key to Porsche's success and brand identity. Hopefully they continue to have a cheaper ICE or Hybrid Cayman on offer.
The strategies adopted by automakers are intriguing, considering that Europe's electric infrastructure is not yet sufficiently developed to fully support the transition to electric vehicles.
Showing your inexperience with Porsche models that you've likely never driven or tested. Sad that you make these types of comments with zero experience! 😢 The Boxster/Cayman twins were some of the best vehicles that I ever tested while at Motor Trend magazine. Mid-engine has better balance than rear-engine which is likely why the twins ran circles around the 911 through the slalom. Porsche even knew the mid-engine layout was superior which is why they never gave it 911 power until now. SMDH...some of your comments are very bad assumptions!!
just started watching this channel and to be honest I have binge watching. I don't recall April having any children ( correct me if I am wrong) but if I am correct she has to have a pet which would be a cat or a dog. I am not a cat person and literally stop dating a woman that got a cat and knowing how much like them
Since the electric grid can't support a full change to EV's, I am surprised there isn't a bigger push to hybrids. If companies announced the end of all gas only engines, I believe most people would accept it. A hybrid Boxter would be fast, and economical and a car I would buy.
April just constantly waits to rip on Tyler! She laughs at all goofy things that he says non-stop and has to hold herself back frequently. Tyler, that is a sign of somebody who loves you very much. I know this from experience. Please keep up the good work...both of you!
One can tell a person by how they treat animals. Perhaps Tyler isn't the type of person I thought he was. Dude smoke a joint and mellow out. It's not the cat's fault you didn't have her fixed, it's yours. Man up and do the right thing man.
What a lot of people don’t realise is the 981 and 718 Boxster and Cayman are actually 95% 911 in terms of actually part number stampings. And they’re more expensive to manufacture than the 911. The ‘not a real Porsche’ statement is woefully ignorant.
Tyler, I think the Apollo Porsche was a great save to a classic car. Any engine problems, and any good American mechanic, fix it. Biggest Bonus you've got a $16,00 oil change, not $400.00!
Porsche has been pretty clear about this. The 718 which is now 8 years old, will no longer be gas powered. That does not mean that its eventual replacement won’t be.
Just curious if this has been discussed. Could Jake drop pic on the side of the screen to point people to Tyler's video with the Grand National update while April was talking about her dream? Since I watch both channels I could follow Tyler's comments about the t-tops with ease, but it might help others and/or get more people to follow both channels??? I'm thinking it might be too "cheesy" or "self-promoting"...but you all are way better experts than I. Either way, wishing April, Tyler and Jake the best and looking forward to more content.
There are a a few shops out there that do an awesome job LS Swapping Porsche cars with blow engines. They do so while keeping every looking and acting 100% factory with all the factory gauges. They are absolute beasts and much faster than any factory Porsche. They even supercharge or twin turbo them. Car manufacturers are alienating all the purists going EV and/or hybrid. There are currently still more ICE purists than EV “claimed” tree huggers and it’s already bit the car manufacturers in the arse.
APRIL! You are wrong. I have a 2003 Boxster S and it is an amazing car. Do I want a 911? Sure. But dishing on the Boxster is a really bad look. If you didn't have the Boxster Porsche may not even be here. Just remember that you Damn Dirty Haters.
Yes, the Porsche Boxster originally did save Porsche people say it was the Cayenne that saved Porsche. They are only half right what really saved Porsche and kept the lights on for them was the Boxster to produce the Cayenne without the Porsche Boxster, we wouldn’t have the Cayenne making Porsche money and we wouldn’t have Porsche as a company which includes the 911 I am the proud owner of an arena Read 1999 Porsche 986 Boxster with a five speed manual. It was my first car that I learned how to drive manual in and my first Porsche. I have no plans on selling it but restoring it, and now hearing this news, go by another one because I love them anyway, but it’s only going to make them more valuable, especially while the first generations are still very cheap for a nice one but just like the Mazda Miata they’re not going to remain cheap for long, especially now with the news that Porsche is going to make the Boxster and Cayman an EV Will they ever rise into 356 or 550 spider prices not anytime soon because they made too many of them, but probably when you and I are along since dead because the Porsche Boxster is basically the next 550 spider as much as the Porsche purists Will never admit that my dad beat one of them as he owned a bunch of 911s he likes the Boxster don’t get me wrong but in his eyes, it’s still a boxster until you drive one which I recommend April to go not even buy one, but just to drive one and experience one or the base model first or second generation they are truly fantastic automobiles The reason why the Boxster has so much hate is because the people who hate it. They never owned one. They won’t hate it if they go out and drive one because they truly are that fantastic of a driving experience especially for the money funny enough I wanted a Mazda Miata before to learn how to drive standard because those are also a fun driving experience but I did learn that we have the Mazda Miata to think for the Porsche Boxsters existence because even all the way back in the late 1980s Porsche was toying around with the idea but that project really did not get jumpstarted until the MX five Miata from Mazda released in the US it came out in 1989 first in Japan and then 1990 in the US and then in 93 Porsche took their idea of a two seat roadster to Geneva as a concept car and then in 96 started production for the UK market and in 97 for the US market with the 986.1 you have the 986.2 which I’m sure is just even more of a blast to drive but instead of pushing the haters away at least for me I would recommend to them go drive one buy one rent one borrow one from a friend, but drive one because they are truly fantastic drive for the money and a wonderful car and a looker at that definitely one of my favorite automobiles I’ve ever driven
Very disappointed in Hoovie. He should know that Porsche #1 was a mid engine as the good doctor intended. The engine was flipped to the rear to enable a backseat for the poorer post WW II Germans. Thus there is nothing more Porsche than the Boxster which is the rightful heir to Porsche #1. Regardless the epitome of Porsche #1 was the Carrera GT. Very disappointed in Hoovie's lack of knowledge.
The Taycan doesn't need any more range than it has. People who own that car have other cars they use for road trips. If you ever did need to DC fast charge it, its charging curve is quite good and you would get your limited range back quickly.
I’ve known many Boxster owners that go buy a 911, cause people tell them it is the better car, but after a bit they sell the 911 and go back to the Boxster or Cayman. Mid engine is such a better platform.
Dude it totally does make sense, all the “Porsche guys” don’t like Boxsters anyway (some have come around finally) so the Boxster will be a kick ass electric car for the same people who bought Boxsters. What’s the problem
If you are not going to take your car to the track than an enjoyment of a sportscar is handling, rowing the gears and engine noise. Boxsters and Caymans were known for the wonderful sound with that iconic flat six engine. I cannot see their electric versions offering the same enjoyment with their "Dyson Vacuum' electric sound as the substitute for the classic "flat six". The best they can do is to engineer in the fake sound as Hyundai has done with the Ionic 5 N. Still, I think it is a gamble on Porsche's part .
I always wanted a boxster, but now I can afford it I bought a 4 year old, low millage Jaguar F-type. The only reason is the outdated interior on the boxster. It looks so old, I can't stand it
If Porsche can deliver a $60k electric roadster (especially given delays with the Tesla Roadster), I think they will do amazing with it. If it creeps up into the high $70s or low $80s, I think it’s dead in the water.
6 year old me knows that EVs won't work. I can remember playing with my RC cars and for like 10-20 minutes of playtime you had to charge for an hour. I had to get and swap out multiple batteries to have any real fun. The current EV infrastructure doesn't allow you to switch out batteries unless you live in China.
7 year EV owner me knows that's not reality, and once you own a daily driver EV you realize that gas cars feels like using a flip phone once smartphones came out.
That's great that you're trying to equate your experience with Ni-Cad batteries in in-efficient toys with todays battery tech. It's almost like you haven't a clue of what you're talking about.
A cheaper electric sports car sounds fun. I never drove too far in my toy cars so I don't see range as an issue. I'd also like Porsche to keep the Cayman as a gas car.
I go over and over it again and I just cannot see how Porsche thinks that dies in the wool Porschefiles are going to go for an electric sportscar with an electric motor noise. I can see it in a luxury car because quietness is one strong characteristic of luxury. Perhaps Porsche is figuring that rich Porsche owners are going to start dying off and newer owners will not remember the sound of that fabulous flat six engine note. I think the used Porsche market for Boxster and Caymans is going to explode.
People said similar things when they first leaked the Cayenne as a potential product... "I will never buy a Porsche if they make an SUV" was a common statement back then...turns out never is a long time...and people buy porches plenty inspite of it...lol
I'm looking forward to an a/c motor powered Porsche. Lowest center of gravity, instant torque without waiting for things to rev and spool up, that torque remains peaked and constant all the way through it's 15,000rpm range, instant trail braking with regen, precision traction control when desired thats far faster to modulate, and zero drivetrain maintenance. It could instantly be the autocross beast, with nurburgring lap records coming as battery outputs mature. If people miss the noise, they can pipe in all the fake stuff like BMW does. It's exciting to see the performance advantages ahead for the Cayman and Boxster.
This one could be a coin flip, but to give Porsche the benefit of the doubt, this way they won’t have to detune the Boxster to keep it from outperforming the 911, and in the price bracket a smaller, more nimble, convertible Taycan will be able to beat Corvettes off the light, as well as not having to look over their shoulder for a Kia EV running up it’s ass. Also, I would rather have a reliable, fast, fun, 2 seater when having to worry about range, and save the ICE engines for long cargo hauling.
This could be a result of Europe’s EV requirements when it comes to EV vs. ICE sales. Each year the percentage of the number of EV sold increases and in 2035 all new vehicles must be zero emissions.
Manufacturers have been cutting back but cutting out potential future buyers is a Galacticly stupid! They need an entry level car or else. Porsche Look at Dodge or Chrysler as a brand Stellantis killed them. You could be next.
As you might be able to tell from my username, I've owned a few Porsches over the years (and even turned a wrench on them professionally for a while). The worst thing about Porsches is the snotty owners. There's two types of Porsche "enthusiasts", the arrogant ones that will look down on Boxsters, 912s, 914s and 944s, etc. And Porsche guys that love them all ... and those last guys tend to also do their own work whereas the snobs never get their hands dirty. I know who's opinion I respect and who can go f themselves.
I think this maybe a mistake. There are many drivers like me who aren't all that impressed with the 911 and would rather have the Boxster. Plus, Porsche is known for it's engine sound and feel, a silent Porsche might as well be standing still.
When the Boxster first came out I took one for a test drive. While it wasn’t particularly fast, it was the most balanced, best handling sports car I’d ever driven! And then my brain immediately flipped into pondering the best way to put more go in that motor.
As the saying goes: It's not how fast you go, it's how you go fdast
Sad. I think the Boxter is the purest form of Porsche on the market. And yes…it very much is a real Porsche.
I recall the Boxster being well received in the late 90s. It is what help save Porsche from bankruptcy. It sold well and was very popular.
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to anyone that hates on the Porsche Boxster go drive one rent one buy one borrow one from my friend. Go drive one get your hands on one and get behind the driver seat The first generation 986 or the second generation 987 S you will change your mind about it
The Spyder is the only one to have
The GM of an MB dealership gave me his 987 for the day while my E320 was in for warranty work, and I did not want to give it back. I loved that car
Many people prefer the Cayman over the 911 for road racing as it handles better due to engine placement. BTW - Comparing the Boxster from the 90's with a 2020's Cayman/Boxster is ridiculous.
987.1 Boxster S owner here.
1st as an avid attender of PCA official meet-ups. I'm typically out numbered 20:1 on 911 to Boxster ratios. There isn't any sighing going on by the 911 owners. Secondly the same engine issues detailed for the Boxster existed for the 996 and 997 Porsches, so there wasn't any additional stigma to the Boxster due to those issues.
Finally, part of this drama stems from the EU banning cars that don't meet some cybersecurity standard and as such Porsche is killing the line sooner (as detailed by the Smokin Tire review of the Macan EV)
Finally, The 1999 and 2000 996 shares 86% of it's parts from the doors forward with the Boxster ('97-'04)., so there is that.
I like April and Hoovie but sometimes they comment on things that they have zero experience with and just shouldn't make assumptions based on nothing. They are kind of vehicle snobs, which is disappointing.
@@neilchirico Absolutely, most of the time they are just talking out of their *ss*s or, at best, quoting real journalists and their articles but I guess channels like these are just about views and not necessarily about providing evidence-based information anyway.
I though it was an odd comment by Tyler too. Porsche meets where I live, at least 80% 911s. Probably more 944s than Boxsters.
And the percentage of shared parts is even higher in the 981/982 models.
I'm not one to use terms like triggered, but dang Tyler, you've done it. I'm a guy who owned a 981 Cayman S, a Macan GTS and a 981 GT3. My 981 Cayman S had the same 3.4L engine as 991 911 Carrera. The only Porsches that I recall people objecting to were the 914, which was originally a VW. The 924 and even the 928 which was actually going to replace the 911 until one person at Porsche convinced them otherwise. BTW, I like all the models I just mentioned.
I loved the way the 981 Cayman S handled but at $87k when new, it was expensive. It was a PDK car and I added Soul Performance Street headers paired with the Porsche Sport Exhaust and it sounded glorious. In launch mode, that screaming flat 6 would get anyone's attention.
I've also owned a Lotus Europa, a Lotus Esprit Turbo SE and an Esprit Turb S4 S. We were invited to a Ferrari club drive once and those guys definitely seemed annoyed that we were there. We also did burnouts when leaving the parking area too just as a courtesy.
In the late 60s they produced the 912 as an entry level Porsche.
The 912 was still offered into the late 70s I believe
@@AAS-gw5mb "more than 32,000 912s were built from April 1965 to July 1969" The 914 came out shortly after that and there was no need for a 4 cylinder 911.
@@mexicanspec the 912e was still offered in the mid 70s
@@AAS-gw5mb Porsche stopped producing the 912 in 1969. In 1970 the new entry level Porsche was the 914.
@@davidjungbauer-i7e 912e was offered in 75 and 76
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Just recently stumbled upon your show been fans of you both since Barrett Jackson Jackson great chemistry you guys share
hahaha, the sniff their own farts joke from South Park never gets old.
Absurd, and majorly misinformed video Hoovie. As someone that has owned two previous 911's. (996, and a 997 S manual), and now owns a 981 Cayman S manual, I don't miss my 911's at all. The Cayman is a much more engaging, better balanced, and better sized vehicle to drive. 991's and 992's are too large, and have become more of a rich man's toy to flex. They are less enthusiast oriented. Soon, I will be adding a Cayman GT4 to my stable, and it's not that I can't afford a 991, or a 992, I certainly can, but for what I want, the GT4 is the better drivers car.
That is an interesting & refreshing take given that I look at the Cayman as what the 911 should be / used to be.
100%. The comments from scores of 911/Boxster/Cayman owners on my channel back this.
I like the whole Porsche line up but just like the Caymans styling better than the 911 IMO. It's different in a good way in the slew.of 911s all over the road.
The GT4 is awesome. Dan with NG Supercars has one for sale, you should hit him up.
Hear, hear!!
Wow you guys dropped the ball on this one with a very elitest attitude. The Cayman, esp the later 981 and 718 generations, are known as some of the best sports cars around - edging out the 911 in many ways. Look at the GT4 and GT4 RS for even more proof. IMS / RMS troubles ended in 2009 so you need to gen up on the last 15 years of Porsche progress.
Preach! Just because a car cost more doesn’t mean it is automatically a better car than a lower cost car.
I can remember being able to look in the mirror day or night and to be able to accurate identify any car out there, even the rarely seen exotics. That changed and when it did, I stopped trying to keep up with the cars that now seemed to mostly look alike.. for the most part. It was time to choose a genre I could concentrate on and enjoy. I picked a half dozen.. :) But you get the point.
Not only is Boxster a fantastic drive, it's a great piece of history, right product at the right time, saved Porsche from oblivion.
I guess I will never be able to get a Porsche after 2025... Bummer RIP My love Cayman!!
Being a lifelong Porschephile and having had/have 911s and Boxsters, I think Porsche is making a grave mistake by abandoning the cheaper car concept; the Boxster, when introduced in '97, was very instrumental in pulling Porsche back from the brink of bankruptcy. Oh how short are the memories in Stuttgart.
Or maybe they remember well, and know what it takes to be saved from bankruptcy again.
The gas industry is getting decimated right now, and won’t be saved by nostalgic boomer/luddite types who now only hang on to engine sounds. It’s time to evolve. Again.
I think this one may come back to hurt Porsche. Don't take you're entry level car away. The 986 had been their savior and as someone who owned one (and really wants a 987.2 cayman) it was a FANTASTIC car. Probably my favorite car I've owned to date.
Their "Savior" is the Macan and the Cayenne... literally saved the company and pays for all the sports cars. They will continue to provide options there for at least another product cycle for their profit drivers but this change makes sense for them based on global portfolio requirements...for that they need to go EV to satisfy rules is EU, China,etc (heck even in California) where they sell just as many if not more vehicles as they sell in the US (and rest of the US in Cali's case (and compact states))...
They don’t make money on the boxer or cayman
@@triaxe-mmbthey don’t have to do any of this globally. Other manufacturers like Ferrari and Lamborghini currently sell in California, China and Europe will continue to without being forced to go E.V as you are making it out to be.
The manufacturers just more monetary incentives to make more electric cars. So it’s just a better way to make more profit for Porsche. Just like Dodge is doing now. While the customers hate it. And won’t touch their cars like the Hornet. 😂
Stelantis axed all their V8 vehicles. A company that is ran from Europe that run on ev ethos.
While Ford still make their V8 powered Mustang. In a few variants.
@@bryangillis1839they’ll have to re introduce it again in 2 years once this panty wearing administration at least in the U.S is finally gone in the fall. Not only for car enthusiasts that want to buy them but also to keep their company from going bankrupt like E.V company Fisker.
Picturing the guys pulling up to the Porsche meet in their "real Porsche" to find a bunch of Boxters reminds me of going to Austin Healey meets with my dad when I was a kid. He had/has a 1967 3000 and the club was initially full of other big Healeys, along with a few Bug Eye Sprites. I vividly remember the first meet we showed up to and saw a pack of Jensens... My dad refused to call them Healeys. Now that I'm older and understand what turds they are I get it, but at the time I didn't understand the snobbery towards them. In reality, I don't have much love for the goofy little Sprites either!
I just attended a HPDE trackday at Barber Motorsports Park in Alabama. Out of the 176 drivers, I'd say a vast majority had a Cayman/Boxster or one of the variants (never seen so many GT4's in one place). 911's were actually quite rare. Of course the occasional GT3, but not much more
997.2 Turbo S is an epic car. Still under the radar and undervalued in today’s market.
I have had three Cayman's now. Two 987.2 manuals and currently a 981 PDK. I like the Boxster. But generally prefer a MX5 or S2000 for my convertible fix. I personally think the MX5s and S2000 in general look better. The Cayman has been my introduction to Porsche ownership. Which has made me fall in love with the brand and now want to buy a Macan as a daily etc. Same applies with the Hondas and Mazdas. While there is a tonne of money and demand for EVs and SUVs in China. I think as interest rates increase. And people cant stretch their budget as far for luxury cars. I think having more accessible Porsche sports cars should still be a priority to continue to encourage people into the brand.
Motorsport and sports cars are key to Porsche's success and brand identity. Hopefully they continue to have a cheaper ICE or Hybrid Cayman on offer.
The strategies adopted by automakers are intriguing, considering that Europe's electric infrastructure is not yet sufficiently developed to fully support the transition to electric vehicles.
I knew a guy who had a Boxster S and he took me for a rip, it was amazingly fast
Evs dont save the planet
Showing your inexperience with Porsche models that you've likely never driven or tested. Sad that you make these types of comments with zero experience! 😢 The Boxster/Cayman twins were some of the best vehicles that I ever tested while at Motor Trend magazine. Mid-engine has better balance than rear-engine which is likely why the twins ran circles around the 911 through the slalom. Porsche even knew the mid-engine layout was superior which is why they never gave it 911 power until now. SMDH...some of your comments are very bad assumptions!!
Hear, hear !
987.2 Cayman S owner for almost 5 years now. The steering feel and light weight makes it so fun that I have no interest in newer, heavier cars.
Just waiting for this to happen! Will make my 4RS skyrocket in value😂
Cue the prices of the ICE Boxster and Cayman rising when the EV version comes out, whereas the EV version will be shunned.
I think April is losing the battle. Tyler's hatred of cats is palpable. Beware Neelix!!!
just started watching this channel and to be honest I have binge watching. I don't recall April having any children ( correct me if I am wrong) but if I am correct she has to have a pet which would be a cat or a dog. I am not a cat person and literally stop dating a woman that got a cat and knowing how much like them
When the boxter came out it was said to handle better them the 911.. hence no decent engines in the early models.
Since the electric grid can't support a full change to EV's, I am surprised there isn't a bigger push to hybrids. If companies announced the end of all gas only engines, I believe most people would accept it. A hybrid Boxter would be fast, and economical and a car I would buy.
It was what it was, it is what it is, it's gonna be what it's gonna be. Next...As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇
Any manufacturer that doesn't read the tea leaves on EVs deserve to learn the hard way..ill get the popcorn!
The Porsche Boxster helped save Porsche from bankruptcy in the early 1990s!
Mid Engine handles much better than the rear engine models.
Thanks for sharing guys !
April just constantly waits to rip on Tyler! She laughs at all goofy things that he says non-stop and has to hold herself back frequently. Tyler, that is a sign of somebody who loves you very much. I know this from experience. Please keep up the good work...both of you!
Yay, Porsche! Sticking it to the man! Oh, wait.
Would be fun to see you two take the cat for a long country drive in your favourite touring car! 😂🐈
One can tell a person by how they treat animals. Perhaps Tyler isn't the type of person I thought he was. Dude smoke a joint and mellow out. It's not the cat's fault you didn't have her fixed, it's yours. Man up and do the right thing man.
Yeah, I'm getting a bit tired of listening to Tyler whine about the cat.
What a lot of people don’t realise is the 981 and 718 Boxster and Cayman are actually 95% 911 in terms of actually part number stampings. And they’re more expensive to manufacture than the 911. The ‘not a real Porsche’ statement is woefully ignorant.
EV Grand National, not a dream, a nightmare!
An EV swapped Grand National would be awesome!
It's great that all manufacturers are going down the ev route but thing the inferstructure needs to be in place for it to work
Tyler, I think the Apollo Porsche was a great save to a classic car.
Any engine problems, and any good American mechanic, fix it.
Biggest Bonus you've got a $16,00 oil change, not $400.00!
So it will have instant torque and a lower center of gravity? Sounds like an enthusiast’s dream sports car to me.
Porsche has been pretty clear about this. The 718 which is now 8 years old, will no longer be gas powered. That does not mean that its eventual replacement won’t be.
Once again, Nelix steals the show.
I’m excited to see the kittens ❤
I get that South Park reference 😂
I really liked the opening shot of Britney Spears getting out of Paris Hilton‘s McLaren.
I still want a first gen..( to go w my Tundra & Volvo )
Just curious if this has been discussed. Could Jake drop pic on the side of the screen to point people to Tyler's video with the Grand National update while April was talking about her dream? Since I watch both channels I could follow Tyler's comments about the t-tops with ease, but it might help others and/or get more people to follow both channels??? I'm thinking it might be too "cheesy" or "self-promoting"...but you all are way better experts than I. Either way, wishing April, Tyler and Jake the best and looking forward to more content.
I like the cat.....Its his show !!
I think by next year most EV's will be on buy-back so GASOLINE TYLER not lectrickery.
I spec'd out a Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo and I just couldn't pull the trigger. I instead purchased a MB E 450 All Terrain lifted wagon.
968 was built until 1995, Boxster started production right after.
I hope the electric version has a NACS port and decent range. If it does I'm interested.
Great news!
There are a a few shops out there that do an awesome job LS Swapping Porsche cars with blow engines. They do so while keeping every looking and acting 100% factory with all the factory gauges. They are absolute beasts and much faster than any factory Porsche. They even supercharge or twin turbo them.
Car manufacturers are alienating all the purists going EV and/or hybrid. There are currently still more ICE purists than EV “claimed” tree huggers and it’s already bit the car manufacturers in the arse.
Tesla has 30% profit from car sales. No ICE company is even close.
So in 1968 the 912 MSRP was $7800 it out sod the 911 2 to 1. That would be over $60k in 2024 bucks. That same year a Camaro ranged from $2900 to $3500
What happened to Aprils Lincoln? Is it at the Wizards
APRIL! You are wrong. I have a 2003 Boxster S and it is an amazing car. Do I want a 911? Sure. But dishing on the Boxster is a really bad look. If you didn't have the Boxster Porsche may not even be here. Just remember that you Damn Dirty Haters.
Yes, the Porsche Boxster originally did save Porsche people say it was the Cayenne that saved Porsche. They are only half right what really saved Porsche and kept the lights on for them was the Boxster to produce the Cayenne without the Porsche Boxster, we wouldn’t have the Cayenne making Porsche money and we wouldn’t have Porsche as a company which includes the 911 I am the proud owner of an arena Read 1999 Porsche 986 Boxster with a five speed manual. It was my first car that I learned how to drive manual in and my first Porsche. I have no plans on selling it but restoring it, and now hearing this news, go by another one because I love them anyway, but it’s only going to make them more valuable, especially while the first generations are still very cheap for a nice one but just like the Mazda Miata they’re not going to remain cheap for long, especially now with the news that Porsche is going to make the Boxster and Cayman an EV Will they ever rise into 356 or 550 spider prices not anytime soon because they made too many of them, but probably when you and I are along since dead because the Porsche Boxster is basically the next 550 spider as much as the Porsche purists Will never admit that my dad beat one of them as he owned a bunch of 911s he likes the Boxster don’t get me wrong but in his eyes, it’s still a boxster until you drive one which I recommend April to go not even buy one, but just to drive one and experience one or the base model first or second generation they are truly fantastic automobiles The reason why the Boxster has so much hate is because the people who hate it. They never owned one. They won’t hate it if they go out and drive one because they truly are that fantastic of a driving experience especially for the money funny enough I wanted a Mazda Miata before to learn how to drive standard because those are also a fun driving experience but I did learn that we have the Mazda Miata to think for the Porsche Boxsters existence because even all the way back in the late 1980s Porsche was toying around with the idea but that project really did not get jumpstarted until the MX five Miata from Mazda released in the US it came out in 1989 first in Japan and then 1990 in the US and then in 93 Porsche took their idea of a two seat roadster to Geneva as a concept car and then in 96 started production for the UK market and in 97 for the US market with the 986.1 you have the 986.2 which I’m sure is just even more of a blast to drive but instead of pushing the haters away at least for me I would recommend to them go drive one buy one rent one borrow one from a friend, but drive one because they are truly fantastic drive for the money and a wonderful car and a looker at that definitely one of my favorite automobiles I’ve ever driven
Very disappointed in Hoovie. He should know that Porsche #1 was a mid engine as the good doctor intended. The engine was flipped to the rear to enable a backseat for the poorer post WW II Germans. Thus there is nothing more Porsche than the Boxster which is the rightful heir to Porsche #1. Regardless the epitome of Porsche #1 was the Carrera GT.
Very disappointed in Hoovie's lack of knowledge.
The Taycan doesn't need any more range than it has. People who own that car have other cars they use for road trips. If you ever did need to DC fast charge it, its charging curve is quite good and you would get your limited range back quickly.
With electric cars track day takes an entire new meaning 😂
y dis good morning when it comes out at 12pm EDT?
What happened with Porsche's synthetic fuel aspirations to keep ICE alive? Sounded promising and exciting on the surface.
I'm so excited about the EV Boxster. I know you are pretty anti EV, but this will let me daily a Porsche which will be amazing
The new 911 with the EV turbo is NXT LVL!! 🏆
I’m a petrol head but the Hyundai Ionic 5 N is a game changer, get your hands on one!! 🏎️
I’ve known many Boxster owners that go buy a 911, cause people tell them it is the better car, but after a bit they sell the 911 and go back to the Boxster or Cayman. Mid engine is such a better platform.
An electric Boxster??? Finally!!!
Take my money!
Dude it totally does make sense, all the “Porsche guys” don’t like Boxsters anyway (some have come around finally) so the Boxster will be a kick ass electric car for the same people who bought Boxsters. What’s the problem
If you are not going to take your car to the track than an enjoyment of a sportscar is handling, rowing the gears and engine noise. Boxsters and Caymans were known for the wonderful sound with that iconic flat six engine. I cannot see their electric versions offering the same enjoyment with their "Dyson Vacuum' electric sound as the substitute for the classic "flat six". The best they can do is to engineer in the fake sound as Hyundai has done with the Ionic 5 N. Still, I think it is a gamble on Porsche's part .
I always wanted a boxster, but now I can afford it I bought a 4 year old, low millage Jaguar F-type. The only reason is the outdated interior on the boxster. It looks so old, I can't stand it
If Porsche can deliver a $60k electric roadster (especially given delays with the Tesla Roadster), I think they will do amazing with it. If it creeps up into the high $70s or low $80s, I think it’s dead in the water.
They mistakingly think it is their base/practical car not their entry car. The Cayenne is their practical/ second Porch.
the 986 & 996 saved Porsche, anyone that hates hasn't driven one.
You didn’t mention the 924 or 912. The 912 looked just like a 911, but with a flat 4.
Porsche will backtrack when they see that the EV Boxster sales tank. Add a 1000 lb battery and it will no longer handle like a sports car.
2:13 Tyler and for everyone that don't know it already, the Next Porsche 911 will be an Hybrid !
6 year old me knows that EVs won't work. I can remember playing with my RC cars and for like 10-20 minutes of playtime you had to charge for an hour. I had to get and swap out multiple batteries to have any real fun. The current EV infrastructure doesn't allow you to switch out batteries unless you live in China.
7 year EV owner me knows that's not reality, and once you own a daily driver EV you realize that gas cars feels like using a flip phone once smartphones came out.
That's great that you're trying to equate your experience with Ni-Cad batteries in in-efficient toys with todays battery tech. It's almost like you haven't a clue of what you're talking about.
A cheaper electric sports car sounds fun. I never drove too far in my toy cars so I don't see range as an issue. I'd also like Porsche to keep the Cayman as a gas car.
I go over and over it again and I just cannot see how Porsche thinks that dies in the wool Porschefiles are going to go for an electric sportscar with an electric motor noise. I can see it in a luxury car because quietness is one strong characteristic of luxury. Perhaps Porsche is figuring that rich Porsche owners are going to start dying off and newer owners will not remember the sound of that fabulous flat six engine note. I think the used Porsche market for Boxster and Caymans is going to explode.
I think I would enjoy taking April for a ride, not to buy but just to test her out……
Will be funny when no one buy them and Porsche will have to dump the prices to get them to sell.
I'm waiting for a Good Morning TH-cam where Jake follows April around while running errands in her Lincoln with the window cracked and smoking a butt.
This is a sad day. Horrible news. I will no longer be a Porsche owner if its all electric.
same here. i've owned 3 911's in my life and all electric? thankfully i'll be dead and gone. this right now, is the ending of an era.
People said similar things when they first leaked the Cayenne as a potential product...
"I will never buy a Porsche if they make an SUV" was a common statement back then...turns out never is a long time...and people buy porches plenty inspite of it...lol
I'm looking forward to an a/c motor powered Porsche. Lowest center of gravity, instant torque without waiting for things to rev and spool up, that torque remains peaked and constant all the way through it's 15,000rpm range, instant trail braking with regen, precision traction control when desired thats far faster to modulate, and zero drivetrain maintenance. It could instantly be the autocross beast, with nurburgring lap records coming as battery outputs mature. If people miss the noise, they can pipe in all the fake stuff like BMW does. It's exciting to see the performance advantages ahead for the Cayman and Boxster.
Good Morning!
This one could be a coin flip, but to give Porsche the benefit of the doubt, this way they won’t have to detune the Boxster to keep it from outperforming the 911, and in the price bracket a smaller, more nimble, convertible Taycan will be able to beat Corvettes off the light, as well as not having to look over their shoulder for a Kia EV running up it’s ass. Also, I would rather have a reliable, fast, fun, 2 seater when having to worry about range, and save the ICE engines for long cargo hauling.
This could be a result of Europe’s EV requirements when it comes to EV vs. ICE sales. Each year the percentage of the number of EV sold increases and in 2035 all new vehicles must be zero emissions.
Manufacturers have been cutting back but cutting out potential future buyers is a Galacticly stupid! They need an entry level car or else. Porsche Look at Dodge or Chrysler as a brand Stellantis killed them. You could be next.
Porsche's version of Power Wheels. Coming soon !!! ZOOM ZOOM
Lets hope that Porsche doesn't end up like Tesla, GM and Ford, unable to unload their electric vehicles
That has nothing to do with electric cars. But the screwed up car market in general including ICE. No more easy access to Credit.
As you might be able to tell from my username, I've owned a few Porsches over the years (and even turned a wrench on them professionally for a while). The worst thing about Porsches is the snotty owners. There's two types of Porsche "enthusiasts", the arrogant ones that will look down on Boxsters, 912s, 914s and 944s, etc. And Porsche guys that love them all ... and those last guys tend to also do their own work whereas the snobs never get their hands dirty. I know who's opinion I respect and who can go f themselves.
Up vote for Neelix.
I think this maybe a mistake. There are many drivers like me who aren't all that impressed with the 911 and would rather have the Boxster. Plus, Porsche is known for it's engine sound and feel, a silent Porsche might as well be standing still.
lol. you really won't think it's standing still if you launch a silent Taycan Turbo S. you won't be able to.
Id have a 994 / 968 club sport and thats the only one id have
You guys are starting to sound a bit snobbish talking about cars that aren't top end models, ie Old men in old boxters.
I have a very important question.
Does April have a sister who is single?