I live in the Netherlands and see a lot of "reviews" just for fun, but you are ,I think, the first one who gave a real honest review, especially the technical details. It's still a nice bike for fun and recreational riding but not for intense use. Some branches like Himmyway are also active in Europe. and most important the prices of these bikes are very much lower than European branches. China is flooding the world with affordable but fun to ride bikes.👍
Thank you! Very happy to hear the reviews are useful; we want to provide the best info we can, good and bad, for all the bikes! It's important, especially with the amount of bikes purchased online without any chance for a test ride.
Hands down the best review I have ever seen. I have been riding dirt bikes for years. Having a family and a daughter who of course wanted a horse, we have over 10 acres Dad That's me happily agreed. She's now 34 and Dad that's me is still out mucking everyday, feeding and water every day. Plus the cost of a farrier for their feet, vet bills etc. I can't get rid of them they are like really big pets but I have discovered one thing horse trails. Some are so peaceful and very easy, others are extreme and as I found out ( I purchased a Deer a month ago ) the Deer doesn't work so well. Getting down to business I have already discovered a number of problems which you pointed out. First the weight Yup It's a Heavy bike, and Yup you most definitely would need help putting the bike in a rack. 2nd you pointed out the pivot points and wobble. A good friend and I go all over the town in New England we live in, and him going down a very large hill no hands discovered the wobble in the rear end, He was able to to lose it but not by much. 3rd he's 6' and had the same problem. he's going to be getting a taller seat post which wont be a problem. I have the use of 2 Lectric 2.0s so we switch. For my needs as I'm 70 is a full suspension E Bike that as you put it can do a lot of things. Not Extreme trails I did try and I did make it only once landing in a relatively soft dirt. 4th it's not a true mountain bike it's way to heavy and as you said having the motor in the back does throw off the geometry. It can do a lot more then most E bike without a full suspension ( Just not any serious trails. ) Now the good things its beautifully built, the fit and finish are wonderful. it's got lots of power, and I really like the fact that you have so many options with setting up your power. this is a great feature. And with the 20 AH battery now using in around town, we have a lot of very large hills in Pas 2 and 3 I can get say 40 plus miles. I haven't tried to run it really down completely but around town on battery only my guess 35 miles. I will let you no when I feel like rolling the dice ( peddling that thing without power Oh Joy ) and running it completely down. Great honest review I look forward to more from you...
Thanks so much for the detailed comment! I am very glad that my experience is similar to yours, and I agree with all your points. The Deer has some great style, power, and comfort on lots of terrain! I had a blast testing it But like anything it has its drawbacks. It's always tough to bring up the cons, but again I am happy to hear you have experienced them as well, so they are relevant, and are still enjoying the bike in the conditions it operates best. We aim to point out the good and bad so users will know as much as possible before purchasing. The most important part of buying a new bike is that you love the ride!
It has arrived as of 8/5/23. I'm a heavyweight in the wrong way at 330lbs; is why I purchased. Just under 6'4", a little perturbed at what you're saying about seat to ground height and comfort. It said up to 6ft 8in; can you say if there's another seat post you can purchase to make it higher , more comfortable for taller riders. Mostly , I'm on flat streets commuter, delivery type use. ! Thank you for reviewing, of course helps. Paul
I’m not a mountain biker, I do love the trails of NW Louisiana, I don’t do a lot of street or sidewalk riding, I have a fair 20” Tamo byke that is pretty peppy but I would like to hear what you would recommend around this same price range. Thanks Stan. BTW I’m 67 years young, q80 lbs, and 5’10”, and have a bum leg. I still love these e-bikes.
Great questions! I'm going to give some general advice since there are so many e-bikes available, and I have not ridden them all! If you want to fine-tune the search, try using our BikeRide.com Best Bike Lists. The search will allow you to look in your price range and style. www.bikeride.com/best-bikes/?fwp_price=1000-1500 If you are going to mainly ride offroad, a larger tire will be beneficial for traction and comfort. You can go for a 26+ inch rim, 2.5" - 4" tire width. Wider tires will have increased roll resistance but more stability on loose terrain and traction, as well as more ability to air down for different situations. Since you plan to ride trails, think about weight when looking at bikes, I find bikes that are closer to 60lb are much more comfortable to ride over the rough ground than higher weight bikes, around 80+ lb. Since you have an injury for your leg, I would spend some time looking at the measurements of the bike and ensuring they fit your body, so many e-bikes now have strange geometry. A good way to do this is to find a bike you own, or go to a bike shop and get fit for a bike, then jot down the measurements of this bike that fit and feel good for you. You can use these measurements to compare to bikes available online to find a good fit. I would also suggest a reasonably powerful rear hub motor (500W+ , 60Nm torque+) that has a throttle. This ensures you can use motor power only if you do not want to pedal.
Thanks! Right off the bat, I will tell you the 1000W Bafang mid-drive on the Rize RX pro will be much better than the 750 Hub motor on the Deer. It will also feature a torque sensor. I have used that motor on another bike (the QuietKat Jeep Rubicon) and it is powerful and pleasant to use. So I would be leaning towards that motor over the 750W hub, I cannot comment on other aspects of the two, as I have not had a chance to use the Rize. Hopefully, that helps. Let me know what you choose, and how you like it! I hope to get a Rize RX Pro to test soon (hint hint Rize if you are listening!)
Why do you think Magicycle has always charged more for the step-through version than the step over? ($500 more, as of 1/30/25) The step over should have a stronger frame and other than that the 2 are identical. What are we missing?
Good question and I do not have a definitive answer, but a couple ideas. Step-through frames can cost more to produce since additional engineering and structure must be added to the frame to have the same performance and weight capacity. Removing the top tube does drastically change the frame. The second reason that pops to my head is simply convenience, Magicycle may sell more of the step-thru version, and has added the additional cost for the added feature of easy mounting. It's interesting because some other brands do charge more for step thru, but companies like Aventon have its Aventure.2 model available as a step-over or step-thru frame for the same price.
The sliding was more due to the tread on the tires and the bikes weight in slippery trail conditions, so mud yes. On pavement, I found the weight of the bike was helpful for traction and did not notice the wheels spinning or slipping on pavement at all.
Yes thats going to be a tough one! The bike has no attachment points for a bottle cage, so you will need something that can strap to the frame or the handlebars.
Make sure you read and fully understand the warranty, what's covered and what they won't cover.After 30 days you the customer have to pay the shiping for any failed part and they go by the size and the weight of the part.For instance, my display malfunctioned at 10 months and its costing $20 shipping for a refurbed display, it has to be shipped from China so who knows when i will get it
Very good note, sorry to hear you are having those issues! How is the rest of the bike holding up for you and how many miles have you put on the unit if you don't mind saying?
I was very interested to buy this ebike. I have done a lot research about it, until I read your comment. Thank you for pointing out the issue you had and I am surprised that the display was made in China. It brings me the concern of the quality of it. Chinese suppliers know very well how to build multi functional products to catch the market needs like the full suspension ebike this one. But when talk about quality, it always down. It is shame that we can’t avoid the product made in China. I will keep searching if any other part of this e-bike are made in China with quality concerns
I dont know how many miles are on it because the odometer quit working shortly after I bought it Id guess hundreds of miles and after 15 months everything else seems to be holding up @@BikeRidecom
Other than the odometer the bike has been holding up well but its riding mostly on pavement never in the rain. Im 62 I've had it 15 months now. This bike does not have full suspension. It has front shocks only. But I bought a suspension seat post from magicycle it took over 6 weeks to get it but it works well and I also put handle bar risers on it @@FJT2024
The P gear is a "park" and provides no power to the throttle or pedal assist. The 0 on the other hand still provides throttle power but no pedal assist. As for whether you could power this up 10 stairs, we have not tested this. The motor is powerful, and offers reasonable torque, so assuming you could maintain enough velocity and have the correct tire pressure for grip but no rim damage It may be possible. The bike is heavy and it will come down to rider ability and speed. Regardless please be carful if attempting anything like this and personally I would not recommend it. I would hate to see anyone getting this bike flipped onto them, at 95lb you could be badly hurt. You could walk this up the stairs with the walk mode, or the throttle for assistance though.
We always try to bring unbiased and informative content about new e-bikes so it is too bad you felt this was a commercial. What made it feel this way to you? Let me know what you dislike and what is important for you to know about new bikes. We are always looking to improve and bring our viewers the best reviews!
@@BikeRidecom I didn't think you sounded like a commercial! You mentioned many cons....no commercial I've EVER watched does that. Thanks for your honest review!
I live in the Netherlands and see a lot of "reviews" just for fun, but you are ,I think, the first one who gave a real honest review, especially the technical details.
It's still a nice bike for fun and recreational riding but not for intense use.
Some branches like Himmyway are also active in Europe. and most important the prices of these bikes are very much lower than European branches.
China is flooding the world with affordable but fun to ride bikes.👍
Thank you! Very happy to hear the reviews are useful; we want to provide the best info we can, good and bad, for all the bikes! It's important, especially with the amount of bikes purchased online without any chance for a test ride.
This is the best E-Bike review channel bar none!
Thanks! We want to bring the best info possible, and I'm happy it's helping you!
Hands down the best review I have ever seen. I have been riding dirt bikes for years. Having a family and
a daughter who of course wanted a horse, we have over 10 acres Dad That's me happily agreed. She's
now 34 and Dad that's me is still out mucking everyday, feeding and water every day. Plus the cost of
a farrier for their feet, vet bills etc. I can't get rid of them they are like really big pets but I have discovered
one thing horse trails. Some are so peaceful and very easy, others are extreme and as I found out ( I purchased
a Deer a month ago ) the Deer doesn't work so well. Getting down to business I have already discovered a
number of problems which you pointed out. First the weight Yup It's a Heavy bike, and Yup you most
definitely would need help putting the bike in a rack. 2nd you pointed out the pivot points and wobble. A
good friend and I go all over the town in New England we live in, and him going down a very large hill no
hands discovered the wobble in the rear end, He was able to to lose it but not by much. 3rd he's 6' and
had the same problem. he's going to be getting a taller seat post which wont be a problem. I have the
use of 2 Lectric 2.0s so we switch. For my needs as I'm 70 is a full suspension E Bike that as you put it
can do a lot of things. Not Extreme trails I did try and I did make it only once landing in a relatively soft
dirt. 4th it's not a true mountain bike it's way to heavy and as you said having the motor in the back
does throw off the geometry. It can do a lot more then most E bike without a full suspension ( Just
not any serious trails. ) Now the good things its beautifully built, the fit and finish are wonderful. it's
got lots of power, and I really like the fact that you have so many options with setting up your power.
this is a great feature. And with the 20 AH battery now using in around town, we have a lot of very large
hills in Pas 2 and 3 I can get say 40 plus miles. I haven't tried to run it really down completely but around
town on battery only my guess 35 miles. I will let you no when I feel like rolling the dice ( peddling that
thing without power Oh Joy ) and running it completely down. Great honest review I look forward to
more from you...
Thanks so much for the detailed comment! I am very glad that my experience is similar to yours, and I agree with all your points. The Deer has some great style, power, and comfort on lots of terrain! I had a blast testing it But like anything it has its drawbacks. It's always tough to bring up the cons, but again I am happy to hear you have experienced them as well, so they are relevant, and are still enjoying the bike in the conditions it operates best. We aim to point out the good and bad so users will know as much as possible before purchasing. The most important part of buying a new bike is that you love the ride!
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It has arrived as of 8/5/23. I'm a heavyweight in the wrong way at 330lbs; is why I purchased. Just under 6'4", a little perturbed at what you're saying about seat to ground height and comfort. It said up to 6ft 8in; can you say if there's another seat post you can purchase to make it higher , more comfortable for taller riders. Mostly , I'm on flat streets commuter, delivery type use. ! Thank you for reviewing, of course helps. Paul
You never mentioned the smaller 20" tire model of the deer. Also... it's got cruise control.
Good note here; thanks for pointing this out to viewers! Have you had a chance to try the 20" wheel model?
I’m not a mountain biker, I do love the trails of NW Louisiana, I don’t do a lot of street or sidewalk riding, I have a fair 20” Tamo byke that is pretty peppy but I would like to hear what you would recommend around this same price range. Thanks Stan. BTW I’m 67 years young, q80 lbs, and 5’10”, and have a bum leg. I still love these e-bikes.
Great questions! I'm going to give some general advice since there are so many e-bikes available, and I have not ridden them all! If you want to fine-tune the search, try using our BikeRide.com Best Bike Lists. The search will allow you to look in your price range and style.
www.bikeride.com/best-bikes/?fwp_price=1000-1500
If you are going to mainly ride offroad, a larger tire will be beneficial for traction and comfort. You can go for a 26+ inch rim, 2.5" - 4" tire width. Wider tires will have increased roll resistance but more stability on loose terrain and traction, as well as more ability to air down for different situations.
Since you plan to ride trails, think about weight when looking at bikes, I find bikes that are closer to 60lb are much more comfortable to ride over the rough ground than higher weight bikes, around 80+ lb.
Since you have an injury for your leg, I would spend some time looking at the measurements of the bike and ensuring they fit your body, so many e-bikes now have strange geometry. A good way to do this is to find a bike you own, or go to a bike shop and get fit for a bike, then jot down the measurements of this bike that fit and feel good for you. You can use these measurements to compare to bikes available online to find a good fit.
I would also suggest a reasonably powerful rear hub motor (500W+ , 60Nm torque+) that has a throttle. This ensures you can use motor power only if you do not want to pedal.
Best review I've seen abour this bike. Though, a nearly 68 it might suit my needs. It will be either the Deer or the Rize RX Pro.
Thanks! Right off the bat, I will tell you the 1000W Bafang mid-drive on the Rize RX pro will be much better than the 750 Hub motor on the Deer. It will also feature a torque sensor. I have used that motor on another bike (the QuietKat Jeep Rubicon) and it is powerful and pleasant to use.
So I would be leaning towards that motor over the 750W hub, I cannot comment on other aspects of the two, as I have not had a chance to use the Rize.
Hopefully, that helps. Let me know what you choose, and how you like it! I hope to get a Rize RX Pro to test soon (hint hint Rize if you are listening!)
Awesome video with tons of useful info on an E-bike that i never thought before I could use but now think maybe could. Thank you
Glad it helped!
As always, the review and the cons is great insight. Love this channel
Thanks so much! We are really glad that the reviews are helpful that's what we hoped!
Why do you think Magicycle has always charged more for the step-through version than the step over? ($500 more, as of 1/30/25) The step over should have a stronger frame and other than that the 2 are identical. What are we missing?
Good question and I do not have a definitive answer, but a couple ideas. Step-through frames can cost more to produce since additional engineering and structure must be added to the frame to have the same performance and weight capacity. Removing the top tube does drastically change the frame.
The second reason that pops to my head is simply convenience, Magicycle may sell more of the step-thru version, and has added the additional cost for the added feature of easy mounting.
It's interesting because some other brands do charge more for step thru, but companies like Aventon have its Aventure.2 model available as a step-over or step-thru frame for the same price.
You mentioned the bike likes to slide when the trails get wet.. Does that also include just paved or muddy paths?
The sliding was more due to the tread on the tires and the bikes weight in slippery trail conditions, so mud yes. On pavement, I found the weight of the bike was helpful for traction and did not notice the wheels spinning or slipping on pavement at all.
Where to mount water bottle cage on this one ?
Yes thats going to be a tough one! The bike has no attachment points for a bottle cage, so you will need something that can strap to the frame or the handlebars.
Absolutely the best ebike review I have ever seen.
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Would the bike be a good fit for a 6' person?
The bike was a good fit for me at 6' tall and felt comfortable
Sept23: Excellent review. Very thurough; unbiased perspective. Thanx. Retired in Sacto
Thank you!
It's a single pivot swingarm! both wheels were loosing contact on every hit. Biktrix said they have the patent to the suspension design lol
What are you even talking about?
Make sure you read and fully understand the warranty, what's covered and what they won't cover.After 30 days you the customer have to pay the shiping for any failed part and they go by the size and the weight of the part.For instance, my display malfunctioned at 10 months and its costing $20 shipping for a refurbed display, it has to be shipped from China so who knows when i will get it
Very good note, sorry to hear you are having those issues! How is the rest of the bike holding up for you and how many miles have you put on the unit if you don't mind saying?
I was very interested to buy this ebike. I have done a lot research about it, until I read your comment. Thank you for pointing out the issue you had and I am surprised that the display was made in China. It brings me the concern of the quality of it. Chinese suppliers know very well how to build multi functional products to catch the market needs like the full suspension ebike this one. But when talk about quality, it always down. It is shame that we can’t avoid the product made in China. I will keep searching if any other part of this e-bike are made in China with quality concerns
I dont know how many miles are on it because the odometer quit working shortly after I bought it Id guess hundreds of miles and after 15 months everything else seems to be holding up @@BikeRidecom
Other than the odometer the bike has been holding up well but its riding mostly on pavement never in the rain. Im 62 I've had it 15 months now. This bike does not have full suspension. It has front shocks only. But I bought a suspension seat post from magicycle it took over 6 weeks to get it but it works well and I also put handle bar risers on it @@FJT2024
Good review!!
Thanks!
Excellent review
Thank you!
Good review
what is the P gear for? and can i power this up maybe 10 steps?
The P gear is a "park" and provides no power to the throttle or pedal assist. The 0 on the other hand still provides throttle power but no pedal assist. As for whether you could power this up 10 stairs, we have not tested this. The motor is powerful, and offers reasonable torque, so assuming you could maintain enough velocity and have the correct tire pressure for grip but no rim damage It may be possible. The bike is heavy and it will come down to rider ability and speed. Regardless please be carful if attempting anything like this and personally I would not recommend it. I would hate to see anyone getting this bike flipped onto them, at 95lb you could be badly hurt.
You could walk this up the stairs with the walk mode, or the throttle for assistance though.
Looks like Sechelt!
Good eyes, this was filmed in Sechelt on one of our testing trips!
I am also 6 foot tall, just for comparison. What is your pant inseam??
33"
Perfect
Thanks!
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27 miles equal to 142560 bad mileage to the gallon padle gas head to the station ⛽ spend money 🤑 💰 and out if breath 😓 few .
Nice commercial...
We always try to bring unbiased and informative content about new e-bikes so it is too bad you felt this was a commercial. What made it feel this way to you?
Let me know what you dislike and what is important for you to know about new bikes. We are always looking to improve and bring our viewers the best reviews!
@@BikeRidecom I didn't think you sounded like a commercial! You mentioned many cons....no commercial I've EVER watched does that. Thanks for your honest review!
@@Angel283 Thank you for watching and your nice comment! We work hard to bring honest reviews so I am glad that this was helpful for you!