Beyerdynamic DT770 pad rolling - testing to see how different pads affect the sound
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- Lots of people have asked for this in the comments and I have been putting it off because of the time involved. This took a whole day to shoot and edit so show your appreciation with a like and a comment.
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00:00 intro
05:34 Stock DT770 Velour pads
06:43 DT990 velour pads
08:14 Shamelessly begging for likes and subs
09:36 EDT 70NL pads nubuck leather pads
12:48 DT770s synthetic leather pads
15:40 712 Protein leather pads
17:34 Custom One Pro synthetic leather pads
21:47 T1 Gen 2 pads
25:19 Dekoni select leather pads for DT series
27:37 Conclusion - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Dude, you are a legend. I was so confused why my DT 770 Pros sounded so weird after replacing my pads (the mids were way too forward, and the sub-bass disappeared). Turns out I received the 990 grey velour pads instead of the 770 ones (the 770 are grey on the back, while the 990 ones are black on the back). Like and sub deserved.
Glad it was useful ;)
Same here,just DT770 pads on DT990...completely different sound
Also struggling finding those 712's, read a thread somewhere here discussing them but it didn't really help.
I tried 4 different pads on my headphones. My findings match your statements about the different materials 1 : 1.
- Fully closed synthetic leather 22 mm: good and punchy bass, dynamic and natural mids, treble not too bright and not too warm, most narrow soundstage, basically everything happens inside my head
- Closed synthetic leather on outside, perforated leather inside, velour on top, 30 mm thick: Fat slightly boomy bass, mids distant and trebble sharp and too much like hissing, good soundstage
- Woven grey fabric 25 mm thick: no bass only tok-tok, sharp unpleasant treble, but widest open soundstage
- Fully closed synthetic leather on the outside woven fabric inside and on top, cooling gel, 35 mm thick and much bigger than the originals: Punchy bass, lack of mids, too sharp treble, medium wide soundstage.
My headphones are ANC. It seems their EQ is adjusted to full synthetic leather pads. I was astonished learning how much difference the pads make. Users could really "tune" the headphones if the vendors talked a bit about the effect of each.
I've bought a HD25 damping kit from you years ago ! It changed the whole thing turning a headphone id don't really like into magic.
5 years after, i bought the V2 for a DT770 ;-)
Thanks for your videos and products.
You're great to the community
Like and sub deserved.
Great video and comparison, but the best thing is the entertainment factor. Great work, cheers!
Thanks
I would recommend using a smaller scale on the y-axis.
When the scale is so large, roller-coaster graphs look way flatter than they 'should' which in turn makes it more difficult to read the data.
In this case, huge differences, for example Dekoni bass being 20db!!! louder than stock don't translate as well as they could have on a smaller scale.
Enjoying the content!
If I do another one with open backs, I will do that
Love the 770
They are pretty great
would have liked you to try the Dekoni hybrid pads, as i am considering them for my DT770 250. just ordered some for my HD650.
great video
Nice and helpful video, thanks for that
No probs. Glad it was helpful
A few years ago I started rotating my pads by 90° or so every month, easy to do on beyerdynamic round-cup headphones, on my Sennheiser HD650 I flip them 180°, pads do seem to last longer, definitely with the Sennheiser HD650 where the bottom part that sits on my jaw wears out much quicker than the top.
Yeahp thats really true and it works.
That is a top tip. I will mention that if I do another ones
@Custom Cans
Thanks for suggesting I try angled pads in the comments under your 'beyerdynamic open back showdown video". Pads for fostex TH900 or similar will fit. I have some cheap leather pads on order and 'Earpadz by Dekoni Elite Velour' arrived yesterday.
I'm not sure about the stereo image with Dekoni beyerdynamic Elite Velour, it's wider than beyerdynamic pads but kind of disjointed, the Dekoni Fostex pads fix that but it's too early for me to say how much I like them.
Aww, I was hoping you'd have a royalty free audio clip for us to hear from the MiniDSP.
I watched this whole vid with my DT770 250 ohm.
I may go for a perforated synthetic leather with memory foam for my set. Sometimes with certain eyeglasses, the stock pads don't fully seal around my temple. I also like a slight bass boost, and I LOVE sparkly treble.
Thank you for the tests and video!
AH... Damn, I should have done that.. If I re-do it with the 990s I will try and get a sample from each
@@CustomCans I'm sure you could create a new vid with 8-10 seconds of just the sample audio between each set, and then link to it. Hahaha, and editing videos is such a ripe atmosphere to get side-tracked. No worries!
DT 990 Pro please. 😏
OK.. Maybe next month ;)
@Custom Cans dt880 edition also......I'll give you a like if you do 😂
I love videos like this as I used to mess around and mod my headphones to varying success...
I do wonder if Beyer's black velour edition pads really were quite different then. I had ordered myself some 990's and didn't like the sound at all, but they were the black edition looking back.
It was surprising because I always use the 770, 880 and 900 X so I'm very used to the Beyer sound.
I think the black pads are the same but did not test it. The other thing to bare in mind is that they do several different impedances of each which all sound different . That said... the DT990 is a much brighter headphone then the 770 or 900
Dt770 250 ohm owner here. If anybody is interested, i tried the Dekoni choice leather, they hollow out the sound and make the highs sound weird. The big dip at 3.5k makes vocals sound off. Loads off bass but its not worth it. Went back to the stock pads, they sound more neutral/complete.
Same here. I've never liked Dekoni pads.
Thank you for take time and $ to do this so we know which one best replacement to get
No Problemo ;)
should do the same with the Dekoni range. My dekoni's are on their last legs on 1990pro, which have also had the headband clip break lol
Dekoni suede is the one "in between" you are looking for as far as bass pads go :D
I may have to order some in
Fantastic video. I've been hoarding beyerdynamic pads for years as I have quite a collection of their headphones. Its great to see what they look like on a graph instead of just going by ear. Definately looking forward to part deux (open back) 👍
Lol. I did not want to do another one but it is starting to look like I will have to ;)
@@CustomCans Sounds good. I had a look online for those 712 pads as I don't have those. Can't seem to find them anywhere. There is absolutely no info about them at all 😢
@@CustomCans as John said, he can’t find the 712s anywhere. Neither can I. Would you be able to get hold of some for us?
@@theroddy I think we have some in the stock room. I will get Sylvia to list them on the website and I will also add the part number to the description. They may be easier to find by part number
@@CustomCans Sweet! Im checking on your website now. If you could put 2 pairs aside for me I would be forever grateful 👍
Have you tried the paper towel mod to lower the treble peaks a bit? Put 1 or two cut out round sheets of paper towel in front of the drivers then put the foam disc and pads back on. It would be cool to see some measurements of it. People have also used coffee filters and toilet paper.
That is a good idea - I have not tried it on these but have messed around with that kind of thing on other headphones
Appreciate your efforts, measurements with other dekoni pads for 770 pros would be very much appreciated.
I can't guarantee it as they are a bit on the pricey side but maybe
@@CustomCans Are you testing the 80Ohm vesion ?
@@MrJabinho I can't 100% remember but I think so
@@CustomCans 80ohm version has the best freq response.
I gotta moan about something only because you said so,
Since you have the Arya organic, would love if you could try a pad roll test on them, with different Dekoni pads. And test how it affects the frequency range.
Would be an easy start to the Arya organic vids, as i know you were a bit hesitant ripping them apart.
The dekoni pads are quite expensive so I will have to find a way to get the business to pay for them, But... I will ask the team what they think
@@CustomCans yeah just a suggestion. You can tell me I’m wrong 😂
Nice experiment. Bought a DT770 250ohm I absolutely detest, I generally end up reducing the entire high treble by at least 10dB and still not quite sold on it's sound, maybe the past owner fitted it with 990 pads judging by your graph, I'll have a look. I might try one of the EDT 70NL or I might finally sell the DT770. thanks.
The 250 do have a a bit more treble but if you take off one of the pads and check the colour of the foam you should be able to tell if they are 990 pads
If u open the headphone put sorberthone foam behind the driver u get 4-6 db lower highs...
If you ever get your hands on the Elite Sheepskin pads I would love to see a comparison between them and the Choice leather you showed here :)
They might be a bit out of my price range but if we do another Dekoni order, I will see if we can add some on
@@CustomCans don't sweat it, I've seen people online liking the Choice over the Elite regardless of price, you're probably not missing much to be honest :)
What are your go to test tracks?
WoW, merci pour cette vidéo,je croyais que je devenais fou🤯 j'ai changé les pads du 990 pro et le son était horrible...trop de grave et moins de mediums😱😱😱 j'ai même cru que les tubes de la platines étaient morts! Je vais commander les mousses d'origine directement chez beyer !👍👍👍👍👍
Glad it was helpful ;)
Have you done any pad rolling with the HE400SE? I'm kind of annoyed with the stock pads, the foam inside tends to un-align itself with the hybrid wrapping and I have to constantly tug on it to get it to sit right to shut up my OCD-demon. The velour also slightly irritates my skin/beard a little bit sometimes and they are dust-magnets. I'd much prefer the inside padding of the Sundara for example, the kind of smoother sports-shirt like material.
I might try the Pali pads but I think they are thinner than the stock ones so I'm afraid they mess up the sound and I'm very happy with how they sound with the super grills installed. The added sub bass is very very noticeable and still give me a facial expression sometimes when it appears and I love how it doesn't spill into the other regions at all, it's just clean and deep.
No Not yet but we will do one over the next couple of weeks hopefully
@@CustomCans Ahh cool! I saw someone on a forum say the Pali pads measured the same as the stock pads and that there was no difference in sounds, so I've gone and ordered them and they are on my cans right now, I can't tell a difference in sounds but the comfort is great! Expensive pads though. I think the mods I've put on the HE400SE cost nearly the same as the cans themselves now haha, but totally worth it!
I want to try out the Beyer+ solid lambskin leather pads from ZMF
Yes - I may have to see if I can get my hands on some at some point
I’m trying so hard to find the edt70nl nubuck pads but I can’t find them anywhere
I just washed mine (original DT 770) and now I am wondering how the sound changed 🤔 (to my ear no changes, just less fluffy)
Hi, what part number were the synthetic leather protein pads at mark 15:00 ? thanks!
01:43 was soo satisfying
Lol - was the fact the headphones were not level on the stand upsetting you as well? ;)
@@CustomCans i was actually just noticing it when you leveled them haha
I like the Dekoni pads I bought recenty for their comfort and quality, but they ruined the sound of my HD600! And yes the box is overkill
I may have to order in some of the other dekoni pads to see if they have some that are not so bass heavy as they are super comfy
I have tried all the pads from dekoni on my HD6 line . All of them change the sound A LOT. And thats logical because none of them are like the original pads , original pads are hybrids plether inside and velour outside without any front stitches.
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And the earpads Beyerdynamic 770 SG ?
Great video. Thank you for doing the leg work so we dont have to 😂 cheers
No problem 👍
I've noticed that the pads on mine have distorted in shape a little, should I rotate them or let them settle into that shape?
No, they have probably molded to your head and rotating them might feel uncomfortable ... But... they are easy enough to twist round so you could give it a go and then twist them back if it is wrong
I've got the Dekoni Choice Leather pads on my DT770s and I love them. The stock pads to me had a bit too much treble. One thing I would love to know is, is there a difference between the stock gray pads and the stock black pads? My DT770 80ohms were the "Limited Edition" that came with the stock black pads. Some people have said they are the same, others have said they are different.
I think the black and the grey pads are the same but I did not test them. if I do a 990 test I will stick those in the mix
My wife loves 770 but i Didnt like them so he keep them. I like darker smoother sound.
I will have to do a 32 vs 80 vs 250 ohm review as they all sound quite different
I would love to see direct comparison with frequency rest. graphs between good old DT770 with LE 48 Ohm version and DT700 X. Are DT770 Pro X LE really so bassy? Are DT700 X not tonally balanced and have veil on the treble? There is no propper review of DT770 Pro X LE yet on the web.
I am still undecided. Should I repair my old 250 Ohm Beyers and tune them with your kit or choose other option? I like original DT's but I miss low bass extension (like is on 990) and 200Hz dip makes them sound a bit thin, also recessed 2-4kHz... yeah, I like them but I'm pointing all their flows haha! Of course the worst thing to correct is 9-10kHz nasty peak;) I like brights cans, but this is too much.
But my long term goal is Neumann NDH 20 and 30 😋
I really appreciate your channel. I am also headphone geek and own roughly 21 pairs and I haven't said my last word...
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@@CustomCans Cheer Jason!
After listening I will be ordering V3 Mode kit as it sounds great to me. I only hope Polish customs won't double the cost of modding my DT700 🫢
I had the DT 770 80ohm regular silver pads, 2 years ago. Sold them last year. Then purchased them again 6 months ago, same model but LE with black pads. I noticed a bit difference. Finally just bought the new Dt77p pro x, and besides the ohm, they sound different and similar. First of all, they're supposed to have the more advanced Stellar driver from the dt700 pro X, but with the Dt770 tuning. Not only easier to drive at 48ohm, but also much more defined and forward. The bass is more precise and strong, and it's all V shaped so the treble is clear and louder. Although the sound much better, especially the mids which were recessed in the 80ohm, the pro x have solved this and speech it's more intimate. This might reduce the tuning soundstage a tad, so I wanted the wider, deeper stage of the old one with the clarity of the new set. I just swapped the pads and I believe I read somewhere the pro x uses the thicker and denser pads from the 700, giving more seal and forward sound. Using the black pads, the velour is less dense, they're also slightly shallower, and now they match perfectly. That combination made them perfect for me, retaining the new driver capabilities but with the black pads it opens them up on the soundstage and mellows their sharp edge a bit, so they're more satisfying. This might be all placebo, psychological.
@@residentzero Thanks for detailed story. very useful. I didn't know that the new 48 Ohm DT770 had different velour pads than original DT770. And also you said you spotted some difference between black and grey velour?
DO DT 990 Pro please 🙏 😊😂
Looks like I am going to have to ;)
hi, can he tell me if the dt 770 pro 16 ohms is good?
I have no knowledge of phones
Sorry, I have never had a listen to them but I have some custom one pro which have the same 16 ohm drive and they are pretty good
I don't pad roll myself as I just EQ for a different sound, but very interesting video nonetheless.
Thanks ;)
Great effort Jason. I have a question regarding the 1990 pro's pads. I'm using the ones that came on originally and I'm quite happy with the precise sound. I have not tested the other ones supplied, so would like to hear your experience guys who have tried both. Common guys, like subscribe 😎😎
It has been around a year since I tried both but hopefully someone else chimes in
The Balance pads (the pair with more holes) have more bass
@@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr Thanks!
Try zmf pads
Yes, I may do in the future
Algorithm comment. Also thanks for this 🙏
all praise the mighty algorithm