Measure high e from inside of nut to point of contact string/saddle 24 3/4" spot on for the high e, same thing for strat tele but of course 25 1/2", PRS 25"
A couple of questions: Why didn't you check the post inserts with your engineer's square after fitting the new ones? The old ones seemed to roll fine so seemed straight and it looks like the holes were not drilled perpendicular in the body. If you'd checked, you (and us) could see the difference you made. Those bridges are a bit too wobbly for my liking anyway. The best idea to keep those thin ABR1 bridge posts straight is to include a couple of extra thumb screws tightened against the body, isn't it? I couldn't see the tilt in the bridge without a square against it, but the warp in the neck was easy to spot - and far more of an issue to any potential purchaser of this instrument, no? The next question is when you adjusted the intonation, it seemed to me that you were not comparing open notes (or harmonics) with fretted notes. I heard (and saw by the way the strings moved) you checking open notes against harmonics and not against fretted notes. That doesn't make sense to me, but because I couldn't see you pressing the octave 12 the fret note (only hear a suspicious ringing) it seemed you weren't comparing the right things. Of course I may be wrong, but your adjusted saddles didn't seem to be in the correct positions for the scale of the guitar, with the lower strings all seeming to be aligned, rather than stepped. Obviously a harmonic would sound similar to an open note - regardless of saddle position, and make adjustment equivalent to guesswork. It's the fretted notes at the 12th fret that would differ from open notes and harmonics, for adjustment and for playing. This could have been easily explained in your video and made it informative. I know this all sounds like I'm teaching a granny to suck eggs, but I saw an earlier video of yours, where you added a dry match stick to a guitar cover plate screw through hole that wasn't biting, yet you used a drill to screw it back in. I'm guessing that using power tools only makes it more likely to destroy delicate threads and next time the screw is removed, your matchstick will probably fall out the back too. That seemed like a bit of a bodge, as did this, sorry to say.
At one point you said whataya guys think? Well , I think the customer should have sent that guitar back to Gibson #1 …and #2 you don’t need another cup of coffee at all!
If anyone (like me) has older mashed up drill chuck jaws which might damage the 6-32 UNC height post threads, take two 6-32 UNC nuts (nuts 😂) and spin them down lightly against each other. The nut (nut😂) hexes and thread starts are almost never synchronized and will bind against each other on the post to act as a driver without damaging the threads. One of the few times having your nuts binding on your height post can be handy.
Better to obtain and use an ER-11 collet chuck and collet, which are fairly cheap, small enough diameter to locate vertically and grip the threaded insert across multiple smooth points of contact, rather then the 3 points of a drill chuck. They'll tightly grip shaft diameters between 0.5 and 7mm!
I didn’t notice the leaning bridge; just rust inside one of the tailpiece studs; unless it were due to sweat from the player. Those little studs for the bridge are close enough for Rock’n’Roll.
If people didn’t nail down the tailpiece this would be way less likely to occur, there’s no need to do that. Puh-lease….snarks work just fine. I’ve had the same one for years & does the job fine.
Dude, crack it once toward the saddle with a brass drift, I do it all day long with piano key pins there are three per key and must be knocked from time to time. Send it back as good as new.
Nice set up,but with all the play in the bridge holes they will bend those threaded shafts in no time.Maybe inserting brass tubing to compensate the play,Cheers!
Gordon Smith Guitars in the UK make all their guitars out of one piece bodies. Amazing quality, you can basically spec out your own signature guitar for less than a Gibson USA Les Paul Standard. They sell a lot of guitars to Japanese retailers as well, so the quality is expected to at least match, if not exceed Made in Japan QC levels to be a contender in that market.
If all the pieces of wood they used have a high density and they "push" against each other you'll still get a nice resonance and sustain... But I agree, having a one-piece body is pretty rare these days... I'm lucky because I got a Vintage V-130 ( Trevor Wilkinson ) which is basically a Les Paul Junior-DC with a few modern upgrades and it's a one-piece body which was totally unexpected at such a low price...
The wood supply has gotten too expensive and there is no definable end result sound benefit from 1pc. As a matter of fact a multi piece body is less likely to cup with age.
Yeah just read all the people clamoring over those PRS Custom 24 CE's. Not only are there multiple pieces of wood that make up the backs of those. They don't even try to gain match them. So you get something that looks like a bunch of firewood glued together, and then they have the nerve to stain that like its something to be proud of. People love them though. I think they look terrible.
SGs and LPs are grand dad geets. ES are great grand dad geets. Dad geets are now the Vs and Explorers, and all the Charvel/Jackson-esqe pointy stuff. The sizzle from bridge saddle retention wire used to be how we practised dynamics with no amp. No rattle = youd be clean through the Marshall, increasing sizzle on the bridge = increasing gain on the Marshall. The kids these days dont get the nuance.
Haha, that "the tone is in the switch tip" reminded me of one specific dork on here who is obsessed with Gibson, and is selling an 80's Gibson switch tip for like $150. I mean, I guess the power to him if he can attract a sucker who'd actually buy it, but I dunno. Personally, I'd rather be able to sleep at night and look at myself in the mirror when I wake up each morning.
This isn't even the worst brand new Gibson that I've seen. The really bad ones just get sent back to them. Then they turn into the "mod shop" junk. 🤷♂️
Well if paid for 1000 plus $ guitar and it had an offset headstock and bridge post were not properly installed yeah id return it get my money back and purchase a guitar from a different company like fender or ibanez or evh but yeah gibson would not be one of the choices
I got my left handed Gibson SG '61 reissue from Sweetwater 2 years ago. I had to do a complete meet and greet on every fret. Scratch and grimy just like this. It was Pleked from factory and went through Gibson final QC check and Sweetwater's QC check. AAAHHHHHH...... Yea........ My ASS!!! So I did it all myself and then buffed them babies till they shined. Pay the money we do for these guitars and get quality like that. By a Schecter and get stainless steel frets and bells and whistles and sustainer's for half the cost, I love my SG, God knows I do; I wanted it all my life. But you move on my left handed Schecter Purple Reign Apocalypse and you will get loose teeth.
On a sg the tone is in the horn ends! 😂 I'm a lefty repair tech! I play left handed but 90% of my repair/setup jobs are on right handed guitars and ive strung my own guitars up right handed many times by mistake lol 😂
The rust on the posts increases the dead sustain by at least 10% 😆😂🤣.. never understood the aged guitar finishing thing, supposed to do that yourself, adds your own character..
Excellent channel..but since JC Curliegh Restored Epiphone back to premium brand 2019/2020 I have zero interest in Gibson.. loyal to Epiphone..the daddy of the Gibson standard Les Paul solid body guitar..👍
I see Gibby hasn't addressed ONE FUCKING thing about their quality control issues that have dogged them for decades and I guess why should they people still buy crap like that for 5k. The wavy denty finish alone...I dunno if thats from use but I highly doubt all of it is.
My thoughts exactly annoying people wonder why they don't get hits on TH-cam because it's spend all their time running her mouth trying to be cute we don't care dude just tell us about the guitar and what's wrong with it
The Epiphones the Beatles played were made in the USA using premium woods by hand. The Epiphones today are made by machines using the cheapest woods they can find.
I will never ever pay any amount of money, let alone extra money, for a ridiculous relic or aged guitar. Literally the dumbest idea ever. Almost as dumb as the people who buy them.
Gibson I guess are finishing the fretwork with the massively over rated Plek machine. Any experienced luthier with some knowledge of machining will recognize the Plek as a tinny flawed concept. Either that or simply check the shoddy resiults.
Lol, dad rock is such a nonsensical word. Or you can just call it the Era before rock died. And emo took over. Lol but as history has shown. Trends die too.
You sound like a used car salesman. Everything you find wrong but not wrong enough to keep you from insulting the customer is still WRONG. Wrong is wrong no matter what you think. It should be sent back to Gibson and replaced with a good one and you should stop treating customers like they're stupid.
Measure high e from inside of nut to point of contact string/saddle 24 3/4" spot on for the high e, same thing for strat tele but of course 25 1/2", PRS 25"
Never checked with square after they were put in prior to installing them wheel Set intonation. In playing position, not with Bach pressure on neck
yea for what those cost everything should be right including straight posts...
A couple of questions: Why didn't you check the post inserts with your engineer's square after fitting the new ones? The old ones seemed to roll fine so seemed straight and it looks like the holes were not drilled perpendicular in the body. If you'd checked, you (and us) could see the difference you made. Those bridges are a bit too wobbly for my liking anyway. The best idea to keep those thin ABR1 bridge posts straight is to include a couple of extra thumb screws tightened against the body, isn't it? I couldn't see the tilt in the bridge without a square against it, but the warp in the neck was easy to spot - and far more of an issue to any potential purchaser of this instrument, no?
The next question is when you adjusted the intonation, it seemed to me that you were not comparing open notes (or harmonics) with fretted notes. I heard (and saw by the way the strings moved) you checking open notes against harmonics and not against fretted notes. That doesn't make sense to me, but because I couldn't see you pressing the octave 12 the fret note (only hear a suspicious ringing) it seemed you weren't comparing the right things. Of course I may be wrong, but your adjusted saddles didn't seem to be in the correct positions for the scale of the guitar, with the lower strings all seeming to be aligned, rather than stepped. Obviously a harmonic would sound similar to an open note - regardless of saddle position, and make adjustment equivalent to guesswork. It's the fretted notes at the 12th fret that would differ from open notes and harmonics, for adjustment and for playing. This could have been easily explained in your video and made it informative.
I know this all sounds like I'm teaching a granny to suck eggs, but I saw an earlier video of yours, where you added a dry match stick to a guitar cover plate screw through hole that wasn't biting, yet you used a drill to screw it back in. I'm guessing that using power tools only makes it more likely to destroy delicate threads and next time the screw is removed, your matchstick will probably fall out the back too. That seemed like a bit of a bodge, as did this, sorry to say.
At one point you said whataya guys think? Well , I think the customer should have sent that guitar back to Gibson #1 …and #2 you don’t need another cup of coffee at all!
Ha! Well thanks for watching!
If anyone (like me) has older mashed up drill chuck jaws which might damage the 6-32 UNC height post threads, take two 6-32 UNC nuts (nuts 😂) and spin them down lightly against each other. The nut (nut😂) hexes and thread starts are almost never synchronized and will bind against each other on the post to act as a driver without damaging the threads.
One of the few times having your nuts binding on your height post can be handy.
Better to obtain and use an ER-11 collet chuck and collet, which are fairly cheap, small enough diameter to locate vertically and grip the threaded insert across multiple smooth points of contact, rather then the 3 points of a drill chuck. They'll tightly grip shaft diameters between 0.5 and 7mm!
I didn’t notice the leaning bridge; just rust inside one of the tailpiece studs; unless it were due to sweat from the player. Those little studs for the bridge are close enough for Rock’n’Roll.
annoying -- 6 mins in and nothing
Maybe try some lube??
@@FlameFlickers W
He asked her, "is it in ?" She said, "it ain't out".. He said, "feel good ?" She said, " don't feel bad".. 🥃😎👌
Was intending to subscribe but after hearing you bang on with shit for the whole video I reconsidered
If people didn’t nail down the tailpiece this would be way less likely to occur, there’s no need to do that.
Puh-lease….snarks work just fine. I’ve had the same one for years & does the job fine.
Dude, crack it once toward the saddle with a brass drift, I do it all day long with piano key pins there are three per key and must be knocked from time to time. Send it back as good as new.
First time here. Hilarious, and entertaining. Just had to subscribe!
Nice set up,but with all the play in the bridge holes they will bend those threaded shafts in no time.Maybe inserting brass tubing to compensate the play,Cheers!
It's crazy that a one piece guitar body is so rare now. Last guitar I bought was an ltd ec1000 for a grand and the body is 3 pieces of wood
Gordon Smith Guitars in the UK make all their guitars out of one piece bodies. Amazing quality, you can basically spec out your own signature guitar for less than a Gibson USA Les Paul Standard. They sell a lot of guitars to Japanese retailers as well, so the quality is expected to at least match, if not exceed Made in Japan QC levels to be a contender in that market.
If all the pieces of wood they used have a high density and they "push" against each other you'll still get a nice resonance and sustain...
But I agree, having a one-piece body is pretty rare these days...
I'm lucky because I got a Vintage V-130 ( Trevor Wilkinson ) which is basically a Les Paul Junior-DC with a few modern upgrades and it's a one-piece body which was totally unexpected at such a low price...
The wood supply has gotten too expensive and there is no definable end result sound benefit from 1pc. As a matter of fact a multi piece body is less likely to cup with age.
Yeah just read all the people clamoring over those PRS Custom 24 CE's. Not only are there multiple pieces of wood that make up the backs of those. They don't even try to gain match them. So you get something that looks like a bunch of firewood glued together, and then they have the nerve to stain that like its something to be proud of. People love them though. I think they look terrible.
SGs and LPs are grand dad geets. ES are great grand dad geets.
Dad geets are now the Vs and Explorers, and all the Charvel/Jackson-esqe pointy stuff.
The sizzle from bridge saddle retention wire used to be how we practised dynamics with no amp. No rattle = youd be clean through the Marshall, increasing sizzle on the bridge = increasing gain on the Marshall.
The kids these days dont get the nuance.
Your knowledge and skills are always impressive but your commentary never disappoints! 😂😎🎸
I’m also a fan of investigating holes.🐈
Haha, that "the tone is in the switch tip" reminded me of one specific dork on here who is obsessed with Gibson, and is selling an 80's Gibson switch tip for like $150. I mean, I guess the power to him if he can attract a sucker who'd actually buy it, but I dunno. Personally, I'd rather be able to sleep at night and look at myself in the mirror when I wake up each morning.
SG is my fav I'm 67 so I'm dad rock still performing in my Ozzy tribute band
For a premium priced guitar, the state of the frets and the fretboard and the general attention to detail in the finish is shockingly bad.
This isn't even the worst brand new Gibson that I've seen. The really bad ones just get sent back to them. Then they turn into the "mod shop" junk. 🤷♂️
So did the customer return it to address the leaning bridge studs or did they actually pursue a full refund?
It looks great! 🎸😎
Wow Gibson even ages your your frets. Now that’s great attention to detail. That should have never passed QC and left the factory like that.
You try way too hard to have a personality just relax dude
It's better if you turn the sound off
Well if paid for 1000 plus $ guitar and it had an offset headstock and bridge post were not properly installed yeah id return it get my money back and purchase a guitar from a different company like fender or ibanez or evh but yeah gibson would not be one of the choices
Did it originally come in for leaning studs?
I got my left handed Gibson SG '61 reissue from Sweetwater 2 years ago. I had to do a complete meet and greet on every fret. Scratch and grimy just like this. It was Pleked from factory and went through Gibson final QC check and Sweetwater's QC check. AAAHHHHHH...... Yea........ My ASS!!! So I did it all myself and then buffed them babies till they shined. Pay the money we do for these guitars and get quality like that. By a Schecter and get stainless steel frets and bells and whistles and sustainer's for half the cost, I love my SG, God knows I do; I wanted it all my life. But you move on my left handed Schecter Purple Reign Apocalypse and you will get loose teeth.
I was wondering if you'd mention that end grain finish. You did not disappoint, sir. lol
You're very genuine I watch every video of yours good job I feel like my eyes were right beside.
On a sg the tone is in the horn ends! 😂 I'm a lefty repair tech! I play left handed but 90% of my repair/setup jobs are on right handed guitars and ive strung my own guitars up right handed many times by mistake lol 😂
The rust on the posts increases the dead sustain by at least 10% 😆😂🤣.. never understood the aged guitar finishing thing, supposed to do that yourself, adds your own character..
I use a snark and it's as accurate as the Peterson that I have . 😎
Gibson: not even once.
I cant stand the term "dad rock"
Talk about taking 40 different types of music and lumping it all together.
Excellent channel..but since JC Curliegh Restored Epiphone back to premium brand 2019/2020 I have zero interest in Gibson.. loyal to Epiphone..the daddy of the Gibson standard Les Paul solid body guitar..👍
Yes but that absolutely horrific Epi headstock….
You made me laugh. But totally true video. I have many Gibson's, and many tears 🤣
The post always lean sooner or later..
I see Gibby hasn't addressed ONE FUCKING thing about their quality control issues that have dogged them for decades and I guess why should they people still buy crap like that for 5k. The wavy denty finish alone...I dunno if thats from use but I highly doubt all of it is.
What others said...and...after the 14th "anyway"....I gave up and started to watch paint dry.
just watched "doug stanhope on british people" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
4k for these, almost 5. lol
bent post is part of the aged look. 😆
Yeah - lemme know when Dead Kennedys becomes "Dad Rock" lmao
Who?
UNSUBSCRIBED.. Too much sarcastic condicending wise ass shit talking.. Spare the rod and spoil the child.. 💩⚖️😎👌
Did you make that shirt for Kong? Lmao
My thoughts exactly annoying people wonder why they don't get hits on TH-cam because it's spend all their time running her mouth trying to be cute we don't care dude just tell us about the guitar and what's wrong with it
Lmao
Gigiddy
Dude...sweat and string friction can make frets become sticky and abrasive. Gotta polish your frets regularly, guys !
🤘🏼😂
Yuk yuk yuk
Please don't buff fingerboards .It looks cheap.
Gibson do make a rough finish on the board and low skill scraper work on the bindings.
If Epiphone was good enough for the Beatles...
They’ve played real ones. Not made in China and Indonesia
@@vintagepipesnightmares I'll take that over this POS Gibson junk any day of the week.
@@NaomiEric820
😂 sure
The Epiphones the Beatles played were made in the USA using premium woods by hand. The Epiphones today are made by machines using the cheapest woods they can find.
@@oonamorrioghanblackthorne
Exactly my point.👏👏
I will never ever pay any amount of money, let alone extra money, for a ridiculous relic or aged guitar. Literally the dumbest idea ever. Almost as dumb as the people who buy them.
Gibson I guess are finishing the fretwork with the massively over rated Plek machine. Any experienced luthier with some knowledge of machining will recognize the Plek as a tinny flawed concept. Either that or simply check the shoddy resiults.
This video is funny as F
Lol, dad rock is such a nonsensical word. Or you can just call it the Era before rock died. And emo took over. Lol but as history has shown. Trends die too.
Seasick Camera, bye.
You sound like a used car salesman. Everything you find wrong but not wrong enough to keep you from insulting the customer is still WRONG. Wrong is wrong no matter what you think. It should be sent back to Gibson and replaced with a good one and you should stop treating customers like they're stupid.
You ruined it. It's not all original now. 😁
Some guys just cant stop talking and using annoying high voices. I could never watch this channel again. Blah blah blah
Gibson makes garbage
More overpriced junk custom my ass