My donegal ancestors were the McLaughlin's they fought off the Scottish planters in the 1600s. The McLaughlin were a native Irish clan named after donegal its-self meaning ''son of the land of lakes'' due to all the lakes in donegal. The word lough meaning lake borrowed from a norse word. People think the McLaughlin's are scottish, but that is incorrect, McLachlin is scottish and they originated in Ireland anyway from the Irish McLaughlin's who went over to scotland in the 12th century. There's also the O'loughlins from County Clare I think they're related O' in Irish meaning grandson of and Mac or Mc meaning son of in Irish. Also one last thing, undeniably there was some linkage throughout history, but this was fairly small only Antrim had any meaningful link to Scotland or vice versa. The O'Neill's were the most powerful clan that came from ulster by far and that's where the McLaughlin's came from if you go back far enough from the Cenél nEógain. The other side of my family where the Mcdermotts from Connacht and also the MacNamara's and the O'Brien's also from Connacht, but that's all I know about my family tree so far. I was excepting to find some Scottish or even English ancestry in there, because of all the plantations in Ireland, but found none oddly.
@@zobairmiah1826 No idea, Cheshire, Cumbria, County Durham, East Riding? there was plantations down south too mostly settled by southern English, it just wasn't anywhere near the size of the ones in ulster.
The O'Neills were from western Ulster. After the collapse of the Norman Kingdom in East Ulster, the O'Neills were granted land in Antrim and Down. They Appropriated the Red Hand of Ulster from the Norman flag.
'There's over 1500 years worth of history associating both lands together.' But much of that time the lands were basically Irish cultural lands. You're trying to make people forget that the Scots who came were anglicised lowlanders for the most part and they were sent to Ulster to destroy Irish culture and language and, had it been possible, to ethnically cleanse the north of Irish people. And I think the hope was that they would eventually spread thoughout the whole of Ireland and do likewise.
Hi Zach, thank you for commenting. There were English settlers although they were fewer in number than their Scottish and Welch counterparts. I personally don't know what counties they came from however the guildhall in Derry/Londonderry would be a good place to contact for more information as they have a great display based on the plantation.
Firstly, I'd like to thank you for your comment John, and for highlighting this relevant issue. Our video is intended to be a very brief nod to Plantation times and its lasting legacy. A previous video on the O'Doherty Rebellion in Inishowen overviews the plight of one such Catholic Clan and their treatment at the hand of a regime intent on the acquisition of their lands by any means- up to and including genocide. The after effects of these incredibly sensitive subjects are still being felt, and still being dealt with today. I myself have been involved with cross boarder organisations for over 10 years, teaching a new generation of children about cultural interchange in the north of this island, without reference to sectarianism for the first time since the Plantation happened. I am also from a Catholic background and I have intense loyalty to my heritage and a fierce love for my culture, but living as I do in a mixed community I have witnessed both sides of that community acknowledge the hardship endured. It is this knowledge and the wish expressed by all to learn and move on that inspired me to make these videos.
@@spanky9740 With a very strong British identity, I doubt it. The difference with The Normans was that they had no dependence on London for safety and protection.
Don't think ethnic cleansing but more convert and conform. Because Ireland was predominantly Catholic it would be easier for Spain to conspire against England through Catholic Ireland. Elizabeth 1st thought it better to have a presence there as a matter of security.
An apologia for stealing land and ethnic cleansing. You talked about the Scots, the English and the Welsh. The indigenous Irish and their fate during and after the Plantation not worth a mention?
Excellent work! I am beginning to understand the profound changes in Ulster because of the plantations. Thank you
Thank you for the understanding, from the Diaspora..
Well done ,very good wee film ,and well said Sean, "we are all Ulster men" 👍
Glad my ancestors from County Cork escaped most of that
there was no plantation in cork and if there was it would've been extremely small scale
Guss who's back?!
Glad Donegal was added to the republic
My donegal ancestors were the McLaughlin's they fought off the Scottish planters in the 1600s. The McLaughlin were a native Irish clan named after donegal its-self meaning ''son of the land of lakes'' due to all the lakes in donegal. The word lough meaning lake borrowed from a norse word. People think the McLaughlin's are scottish, but that is incorrect, McLachlin is scottish and they originated in Ireland anyway from the Irish McLaughlin's who went over to scotland in the 12th century. There's also the O'loughlins from County Clare I think they're related O' in Irish meaning grandson of and Mac or Mc meaning son of in Irish. Also one last thing, undeniably there was some linkage throughout history, but this was fairly small only Antrim had any meaningful link to Scotland or vice versa.
The O'Neill's were the most powerful clan that came from ulster by far and that's where the McLaughlin's came from if you go back far enough from the Cenél nEógain. The other side of my family where the Mcdermotts from Connacht and also the
MacNamara's and the O'Brien's also from Connacht, but that's all I know about my family tree so far.
I was excepting to find some Scottish or even English ancestry in there, because of all the plantations in Ireland, but found none oddly.
What northern English counties did the English planters come from
@@zobairmiah1826 No idea, Cheshire, Cumbria, County Durham, East Riding? there was plantations down south too mostly settled by southern English, it just wasn't anywhere near the size of the ones in ulster.
@@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 I guess they were more Scottish planters than English
I thought McLaughlin's originated with a Viking called Laughlin
The O'Neills were from western Ulster.
After the collapse of the Norman Kingdom in East Ulster, the O'Neills were granted land in Antrim and Down.
They Appropriated the Red Hand of Ulster from the Norman flag.
'There's over 1500 years worth of history associating both lands together.'
But much of that time the lands were basically Irish cultural lands. You're trying to make people forget that the Scots who came were anglicised lowlanders for the most part and they were sent to Ulster to destroy Irish culture and language and, had it been possible, to ethnically cleanse the north of Irish people.
And I think the hope was that they would eventually spread thoughout the whole of Ireland and do likewise.
As a Ulster person and a student of history .Have you not considered that the english crown have never Respected any ones openion ....but their own...
Are there any english settlers if so what counties are they from
Hi Zach, thank you for commenting. There were English settlers although they were fewer in number than their Scottish and Welch counterparts. I personally don't know what counties they came from however the guildhall in Derry/Londonderry would be a good place to contact for more information as they have a great display based on the plantation.
I believe (possibly wrong) that down and armagh had larger numbers of English settlers
Donegal...got so lucky that Westminster didn't carve there county up.. when they were drawing the line on the map
No mention off the Catholics that were hunted to the mountain
Firstly, I'd like to thank you for your comment John, and for highlighting this relevant issue. Our video is intended to be a very brief nod to Plantation times and its lasting legacy. A previous video on the O'Doherty Rebellion in Inishowen overviews the plight of one such Catholic Clan and their treatment at the hand of a regime intent on the acquisition of their lands by any means- up to and including genocide. The after effects of these incredibly sensitive subjects are still being felt, and still being dealt with today. I myself have been involved with cross boarder organisations for over 10 years, teaching a new generation of children about cultural interchange in the north of this island, without reference to sectarianism for the first time since the Plantation happened. I am also from a Catholic background and I have intense loyalty to my heritage and a fierce love for my culture, but living as I do in a mixed community I have witnessed both sides of that community acknowledge the hardship endured. It is this knowledge and the wish expressed by all to learn and move on that inspired me to make these videos.
@@WayoftheStag my parents are both irish from inishowen and we were brought up in kilbirnie ayrshire
@@spanky9740 I hope so.
@@makolic1 what's kilbirnie like then
@@spanky9740 With a very strong British identity, I doubt it. The difference with The Normans was that they had no dependence on London for safety and protection.
Sad Times for Irish People.
Ethnic cleansing of the native population because of religion !!!
not because of religion mostly because uladh was extremely resistant towards the english army and rule
Don't think ethnic cleansing but more convert and conform. Because Ireland was predominantly Catholic it would be easier for Spain to conspire against England through Catholic Ireland. Elizabeth 1st thought it better to have a presence there as a matter of security.
An apologia for stealing land and ethnic cleansing. You talked about the Scots, the English and the Welsh. The indigenous Irish and their fate during and after the Plantation not worth a mention?
The greatest land grab in European history.