Ooooo that was interesting! That explains a lot about the attitudes of people in the mountains of southern Appalachia concerning government. In the words of Pete Townshend "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"
A very entertaining and concise treatment of this historical process, which has so much moment for the American experience, particularly in the South and Appalachians, and in the areas to the West where these peoples later migrated. Good work, Barry!
So true! The media would like for people to not know that pitting citizens against each other never works out well. Fairness is essential to peace. Barry
@@BarryVann actually the Proclamation of the Republic of Ireland expressly contains the phrase "cherish all the children of the Nation equally , oblivious to the differences carefully fostered by an alien government"
@@Eadbhard Are you talking about the Anglo-Norman arrival? That doesn't involve the Scots. You are making some interesting connections that go beyond the topic of a short video, which is about Irish-Scottish interactions.
@@baronvann1314 Nay, I'm not writing about the Anglo-Norman arrival, not in this comment. But given the topic (Irish-Scottish interactions), I thought it interesting that - at one point in history - the word "Scot" was used to identify the people of Ireland - at least up until Saint Patrick's time.
I highly recommend, (IMHO) "Traced" by Nathaniel Jeanson concerning genetics and historic movements of people, in a Biblical timeline.. Selah. I really enjoyed your show today, especially..
Fantastic video as always, my brother in Christ! The majority of my dad's ancestors were ethnically English (Anglo) Presbyterians who immigrated from the Lowlands of Scotland and the North of England to Northern Ireland, where they furthered the culture we'd come to be known for as Southern Baptists in the Smoky Mountains where I grew up, and I'm incredibly proud to carry their blood, their heritage, their politics, and their faith! May God bless you and yours, sir!
Leta, thanks for watching and for the great question. If you mean people who are from Northern Ireland but are of Scots descent, I can tell you that some don't care much for Scotland while others do have a keen interest in their roots. I have known quite a few folks from over there, and they fall into different camps. It's like here in the USA. Some care about their heritage, and others don't.
Excellent video. Thank you for sharing. I have done quite a bit of research on this topic while doing my genealogy. My material grandmother was a Morrison whose family left Scotland for Ulster and then came to the US in the 1720s. Have you looked into the Highland clearances in Scotland? That was another way for "London" to control the people and contributed to the Scottish leaving their homeland. Very sad. Its easy to see why the distrust of those in power runs in our dna. Thanks for your videos, i just recently subscribed and have loved all that i have seen. The videos with the names are wonderful.
@@OldestLady Yes, the entire movement of Scots to Ulster, after the 13th century, was because of London. I wrote about that history in my book, In Search of Ulster Scots Land: The Birth and Geotheological Imagings of a Transatlantic People.
@TheVanntagePoint a sure-footed and succint exposition. Well done. American folks might care to know about the Elizabethan plantation of Munster, if only because of the tale of Walter Raleigh who was Mayor of Youghal (when he wasn't slitting throats). A little later, by the way Wm Penn sailed from Cork as he had been fined for non-uniformity, what with his Quaker beliefs. He wrote the book 'No Cross No Crown' which your quote from Jimmy Stuart reminded me of.
Diarmuid, many thanks for the comment, especially about William Penn. He recruited Ulster Protestants to relocate to Pennsylvania. As I remember, you are in Ireland. Aren't you? Barry
@@BarryVann yes here I am. I was intending to do two things (i) offer to pronounce Irish surnames (easy really) (ii) recommend a book on the émigrés of 1798, as so many of them moved to the newer states e.g. Pattersons of KY
My earliest known ancestors are from Fermanagh and my most direct came to Virginia as an indentured servant with the Ulster emigration in the early 1700's. He eventually worked his freedom and joined the British Navy only to die of fever off of Georgia in the War of Jekins Ear. Fortunately, his sons survived so I can be here to post trivia on You Tube! I just finished R.J. Dickson's book on the Ulster Emigration - many things I did not know!
Greatly enjoyed this presentation. Question: was it only the Ulster Scots who held to Presbyterianism or was it also strongly present in Wales also? Reason I ask is that the earliest of my paternal ancestors on this continent were said to be from Breckon. Yet they are said to have arrived here at the same time as the Scots Irish. They intermarried with the Scots Irish and immigrated from Pennsylvania into the N.Carolina Piedmont with them. They were said to be staunch Presbyterians, one having a son who was a Presbyterian minister and he, the father,, being a Presbyterian church elder at Poplar Tent. Just trying to connect the dots and figure some things out.
In the seventeenth century, most intellectuals were conversant in Reformed theology, which was the foundation of Presbyterianism. There were Welsh Presbyterians, too.
A compelling topic, to be sure. Thank you for the informative video. Although not really germane to the Ulster Plantation and the topics you discussed, I always found it interesting how, in ancient times, Ireland was known as "Scotia". The name "Scotia" came from "Scoti" which was the term the Romans used for the original Gaels of Ireland. Unless I miss my guess, I don't believe the name was used in reference to Scotland until the late Middle Ages.
He is speed reading from a script with an American accent...couldn’t make heads or tails of it. He’s probably never even been to Scotland, Ireland or Ulster, NI! Ugh 🤦🏻♀️ If one is going to recite history at least enunciate clearly!!
@@kimberlywallace6148 If you are talking about me, you must be unfamiliar with accents different from your own. Most people who are sophisticated enough to watch a video on TH-cam know how to Google a name to see if it is legitimate.
@@kimberlywallace6148 Ulster is in Ireland, and I graduated from the University of Glasgow, taught at Dundee, and lived in Dunning about nine miles from Perth. Perhaps your audio is not playing the sound well.
Thanks for this. In the wake of the Northern Irish Assembly election results of last week, a lot of us may benefit from a refresher course on Irish (and Northern Irish and Scotish) history. I vaguely knew of the reputation of the "Scots-Irish" (including their disproportionate prominence in Appalachia and the South and their also disproportionate role in the history of the US military - and militarism): we up here in (French) Canada remember the Southern states-driven War of 1812, which somehow managed to make us see the (admittedly limited) benefits of British colonial rule. But what struck me most is how similar in social and religious instincts Orange Ulster seems to Bible Belt America not just in the early modern/colonial era but even today. I'm not sure that's a good thing...
You are welcome. I appreciate the thoughtful comment. You mentioned Orange Ulster. The color orange is a prominent hue in the American south. That traces back to William and Mary of Orange.
What do the roles of seminaries/state religion play in this expansion? Did Presbyterians ministers specifically use King James text by decree or choice? Were roaming Calvinist/Puritain ministers common? I assumed Baptist/Pentecostal churches became dominant, because of the lack of infrastructure and different ‘hills & hollars’ in Appalachia. Appreciate the video. If you don’t mind, when you produce your next in the series, would you include more maps? Helps us visual learners keep up. Have a great day!
Hi Angie, during the 1620s and again in the first half of the 1800s, revivals, even with Presbyterians. were popular. These folks were called New Lights to contrast them with less evangelical old lights. Presbyterians stressed seminary educations, so they seldom went to the rough frontier where they weren't offered much income. Pentecostals appeared in the late 1800s and 1900s. Like Baptists, they stressed spiritual calling in lieu of an academic education.
Really enjoyed the history today. As a "Sweeney" Anrothan O'Neill was the Progenitor of The Sweeney Clan. (in Scotland till Bannock Burn) According to Leabhar Clainne Suibhne (The Clan Sweeney) history in Both Ireland and Scotland pre-King James.
Fascinating. I need to rewatch to take it all in. Other than their lack of papal authority and certain sacraments, I don’t see a lot of difference between the Anglican Church and Catholicism. The Anglican Church in America became The Episcopal Church and seemed to be prevalent in the Antebellum Deep South. But I guess that is topic for another discussion.
That's a great observation! The Deep South was an agrarian region, so it was attractive to royalists who brought Anglicanism with them. The poorer sorts made their way to the backcountry; they were typically Anabaptists, Presbyterians, Quakers, and Wesleyans.
I’m an American in the state of Texas. My Irish ancestors came here in 1658 to Virginia. I can trace my people back to County longford Ireland on my dad’s side to about 1470 . Our last name is Ferrell and my grandfather that came here in 1658 was captain Hubbard Hubert Ferrell who got shot in the stomach while defending Jamestown during Bacons Rebellion in 1676 . He was under the command of Sr William Berkeley. My question is what Might his Religious affiliation be seeing that he married an Anglican ? He probably was not a catholic right , even though he is Irish ? I’m a Reformed Baptist 1689 guy myself
Michael, Irish Catholics came during the Potato Famine in the late 1840s. The Church of Ireland, like the Church of Scotland in the 17th century, were essentially Anglicans with bishops; they answered to the monarch. Jamestown worship was Anglican.
@@BarryVann that makes some sense yes , but they left Ireland in 1658 near the end of Cromwells campaign which makes me think that they might have been fleeing Longford do to the Roman Catholic rebellion
Fascinating thank you. Coming from the Republic of Ireland (but living in the UK for 3 decades) we were not well schooled in the internal religious goals or competing religious forces of the reign of King James. I thought that over time, especially into the mid 17th century, it suited the English with the established Church of England to “persuade” the more democratically and radically minded groups such as Puritans and Presbyterians to settle elsewhere. The goal was to ensure these groups remained economically useful but not a threat to the political status quo. This would not be the first time that radical Scottish thinking about local empowerment and consent to being ruled would be “deflected” away from England. As an American you will be more aware than most of the life experiences of Thomas Paine. Scots who think about politics do so in a way that is very different from English people who think about politics. We see that in Britain into the 21st century. Tony Blair’s Labour government took measures to strengthen the prevalence of rights in British law (under English law you only have freedoms, until the Government says you don’t) as as well as nominal steps on separation of powers e.g. restricting the role of Lord Chancellor. It also implemented (unevenly) devolution of power to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. These are all things that the largely pro-Brexit Conservative Party wish to reverse or dilute following the Brexit Leave vote.
Plan of Battle, you are most welcome! I am in Switzerland at the moment to do some lecturing on research methodology to doctoral students. I always enjoy learning about how our British and European cousins view politics and religion.
How are you doing dr Barry happy mother day to yours and ours and all mothers we celebrated mother day last March it’s different date around world we in Arabic countries as well as England you in USA and Canada on May. As always iam gathering key points about topics you mentioned briefly here it’s king James and ulster plantation it’s was origanised colonisation ( plantation) - province of Ireland- from Great Britain during reign of king James 1 . Most of settlers ( planters) came from southern Scotland and northern England. Their culture differed from that of native Irish . Small privately funded plantations by wealthy landowners began in 1606 , while official plantain began in 1609 . Most of colonised land had been confiscated from native Gaelic chief several of whom had fled Ireland for main land Europe in year 1607 , following nine years war against English rule . The official plantation comprised an estimated half million acres .
Comedic accents aside. It's often forgotten that the nearest Scots to Antrim etc were Gaelic spoken Presbyterians from Galloway. The folk must often have been bilingual as many are today although the Galloway version now extinct.?
Like the rest of Southern Scotland Galloway spoke Old Welsh. That was replaced by Gaelic which was still spoken into the 19th century having been replaced by Scots. English came later.
@@forbesmeek6304 Scots is an English dialect; it’s related to Northumbrian. Old Welsh is a Brythonic tongue. Brythonic is one of two branches of Celtic languages. Gaelic is the other branch.
My Dads side is Scots Irish. Last place they lived was in Belfast and ended up participating in the American revolution.From what ive read the Scots Irish are known for their hot temper-love of alcohol and mental instability at times.They were a perfect fit on the American frontier.
@@BarryVann ive been told that my gr gr gr etc grandfather was a major and recieved land on the Ohio but have never checked into it. I know they have lived there since right after the revolution.
Amazing how much of the ulster scot Irish perspective/worldview still alive today in American culture. Some dna sure is strong. I wouldn’t be where I am today without mine.
My family is Scots Irish. County Down. I could not understand my grandfather's and his brother's hate for catholics. I remember him quiting the orange order because a young boy was allowed to be a drummer in the orange order band and his mother had been catholic. She had divorced and became protestant to re marry. That was too much. Terrible thing how the political class sets us against each other for their gain. They find race more useful now. Thanks for the excellent video. Terrible accent though.
Thanks, Larry, as terrible as it is, my natural sound isn't much of an improvement over my English accent. When I was a student at Glasgow, people asked me not to do a Scots accent; they said I sounded more like a Pakistani than a Scot! My grandmother raised me. She was born in the Appalachian Mountains and had never met a Catholic. When I told her that I visited a Catholic church, she was disgusted.
@@BarryVann history is a record of human nature and behavior. Remember that and with a little study we are better able to see our flaws. Unfortunately it is being corrupted for political purposes yet again. I think of Orwell's observation "Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past." George Orwell, 1984 Thanks for your efforts.
Last part of my research (2,000 km) of arable land in counties Armagh Cavan, fermonagh, Tyrone, tyrconnellian , Londonderry, land in counties Antrim, down , Monaghan was privately colonised with king support. If you please iam subscriber to British channel the owner her name is Caroline I told her about her name meaning and origin because series of videos surnames it’s means strong French origin brought to England by wife of king George 11 Caroline of ansbach thank you for your great efforts giving us chance to read learn new information improve our English language as well stay safe blessed good luck to you your family friends.
Boy Howdy if you didn't shuck out a bunch of truth in this one, not that you didn't in the rest! This one is where my mom said I stepped i as far as Scots, Scots-Irish, Dutch and welsh too. GLAD to be here. Keep pumping them out you Hillbilly! Glad you decided to come back HOME! GBWYall!
How are you doing dr Barry actually biography of queen Mary is very sad she lived miserable since her birth till her death . I gathered main points about topics you mentioned briefly here it’s Mary Queen of Scots ( born in 1542 - died in 1587 ) she was known as Mary Stuart or Mary of Scotland, she was queen of Scots from year 1542 until she forced abdication in 1567. She married three times of Francis king of France, lord Darnley. Earl of bothwell . She had one child with lord Darnley in 1566 who want to become James v 1king of Scotland and England. She executed at fothering hay castle in Northampton shire at at age 44 . Her son had her body and placed with Henry v11 chapel in Westminster abbey . She changed world secured legitimate succession to the throne by having son . She was imprisoned they believed Elizabeth was illegitimate and Mary as descendent of Henry v111 sister Margaret Tudor was rightful heir Elizabeth was reluctant to have her killed , so she imprisoned her instead for 19 years .
The situation in Ireland and Highland Scotland prior to the Fight of the Earles 1607 and Culloden in 1745 was like it is now in Afghanistan with tribal and clan warfare almost continual but a "common enemy" was always more important than their clan rivalries. After 1745 the British Empire grew to being the largest Maritime Empire the world has ever seen and USA was created from the people leaving Britain and "starting again" in USA. The English Bill of Rights 1689, French Rights of Man 1789, US Billof rights (ratified) 1791 laid the foundation of modern Democracy based upon Protestantism which preaches a direct line between YOU and GOD without any need for an intermediary which is basically what most people believe now including those that are not even Christian..just MODERN
Thanks, Doc. That was quick and concise. Much appreciation. As an aside; I have a theory that the 'Rebel Yell' so feared by the Federals originated with, or descended from, the 'Highland Charge'. A bunch of wild-eyed, barefoot boys; a whoopin' and a hollerin' and runnin' straight at you. Would make me think twice. What do you think? God Bless You 'n' Yours
"Your" theory is a widespread and common one. First advanced by historian Grady McWhiney, many articles and books have been written about the subject - Craig A. Warren's, "The Rebel Yell" and James Gannon's, "Irish Rebels, Confederate Tigers", are just a few books that mention the possible Celtic origins of the 'Rebel Yell'.
@@Eadbhard Thank You for Your response. So, it's not 'my' theory. I'd not been familiar with your references, but I will certainly follow your recommendations. "Rebel Yell" is also a pretty good Bourbon. Cheers!
Of course it's an American telling us Irish that Ulster belongs to the Ulster Scots...... Ulster is Irish and will remain Irish even if we have to give every single drop of our blood for our native land. As god as my witness all of Ulster will be re-joined into it's Original state of the 32 county Republic of Ireland.
I never said that Ulster belongs to anyone. As God as my witness, I hope you don't have to lose any blood to have a homeland. I have no interest in Ireland after 1847 when the last of my people left.
Guy, take it easy. I'm completely in agreement with your point of view. But over time, I have heard, many of the descendents of Scots Irish in America have read or been told about what happened in Ireland, thought about it and become more sympathetic to the Irish viewpoint. Some, I bet, will have visited Ireland and experienced the friendliness and helpfulness of many [yes, we have a few jerks as elsewhere] of the Irish and that has changed attitudes over time. Don't forget, they rebelled against the crown too. Some, I'm told, have even stopped calling themselves Scots-Irish and now just call themselves 'Irish' [ie. Americans of Irish descent usually friendly to Ireland]. We need to keep cultivating American/International friendships. It's part of fighting back without blood having to be spilt.
Thank you sir, beautiful 🐓 presentation,, I know that some of the scots Irish people are with the holy spirit, and always have been,,very powerful spirit and religion doesn't like it,no King but Jesus Christ,,peace brother keep your powder dry,the tomahawk Sharp,, He said if this were My kingdom My people would fight,,, they know He is coming soon 🐓
@BarryVann your not irsh Scott are you it's a tribe name there other sub parts of the Celtic tribes from that area. It should be called the Sea of isles. Not The island sea .oh McDonald's and McCloud come from The Isle of sky.
Darcy, I appreciate you for watching and writing, but half of the stuff you mention is news to me. I am a geographer (PhD University of Glasgow), so I’m not just an American who woke up one day and decided to do videos on Scotland and Ireland. Your writing reads like English is not your first language. So, what’s your point?
@BarryVann OK what did you study re so did Irish Scott mix with a Hebrew called Negro, something tribe. Tell me what the last name McMillan means Where does saint Columbia, come from.
"n 1667, a number of Scots were forced to leave Scotland following the Pentland Rising (Rullion Green) in 1666. In the Dundonald records, a David Poe in Polkelly, on a farm bordering Fenwick and Stewarton, seven miles from Irvine. On November 21, 1666 he was with others, declared an outlaw by the King’s Herald. On December 4, 1666, this proclamation was read at the Market Cross in the parish church of Irvine. David Poe and others became fugatives, hunted covenanters, hiding in Ayrshire. They were never arrested, but the King had them tried in absence on evidence of witnesses and sentenced them to be hanged. David Poe escaped to Ireland. On October 1, 1667, the King’s pardon was granted to all who had taken part in the late rebellion, but with special exception of David Poe.
Why would Jews come to Ireland in the 4th century? If they did get there, they were few in number. At the end of the day, what does that have to do with King James and the Ulster Plantation? What does the Isle of Mull have to do with the story? Why are nearly all of your words misspelled?
Thank you for the very informative video. My father's side claims Scots Irish decent. The last name is Scottish, but of Irish origin. Irish that migration into Scotland defending McDonald lands, and later given the lands. Munro. He was told they were black Irish which said was either protestant (they were) or dark haired also true as there are very few red heads in our family. I wonder how do Ulter Scots of Irish origin view their positions.
You are most welcome! Americans of Ulster Scots descent have spent 250 years away from the Irish portion of the population. Some of them care about their heritage and others don't. The same can be said for Americans. The Ulster-American Folk Park is located in County Tyrone. I have visited it. The folks over there would be able to tell you more about how locals view their heritage.
Interesting video, but unfortunately it's missing a fundamental aspect. It's impossible to jump on from the point you have without taking the history of this part of the world into consideration, and when I say this part, I am of course referring to ancient Ulster. Let me start with the glaring misconception, you refer to the scots irish but of course, there is no such people. Modern day Irish, stretching back to the time you are referring to, are in themselves Gaelic colonisers from Northern Europe, arriving in what is now Southern Ireland in approx. 400>200BC. An 8th century Irish manuscript named the Lebor Gabála Érenn (Book of Invasions) alludes to this fact and makes us aware the 'Irish' were actually quite late on the timescale of Irish/Ulster history. The first recorded evidence of human activity in this part of the world is between 10>7000BC in Mount Sandel, Coleraine. It was these indigenous people that the Gaels themselves referred to as Cruthine (painted people), or more commonly...Pictish (Painted people in Latin) along with the arrival of the Belgae Celts from modern day Lancaster to Larne, gave there name to what we now know as Ulster (Uladh). Since the first Gael stepped upon the shores of Insula Sacra (Ireland), the Island has been ‘swordland’. Battles have been fought in every corner of the island and one of the earliest recorded is the Battle of Rosnaree. The battlefield sits just south of the Boyne River, within sight of Newgrange burial tomb and has been recorded in the Ulster Cycle (ancient Irish literature) as "Cath Ruis na Riogh". The story is set around the reign of the Ulster King Conchobar Mac Nessa of the Cruthin, who reigned from the capital of Ulster in Emain Macha (Modern day Navan Fort). The battle is recorded as being fought between Conchobar and Cairpre Nia Fer, High King of Ireland in around 200AD. The ancient saga suggests the battle was in retaliation for an invasion of Ulster by the Irish from Co. Louth and Connaught and assisted by warrior bands from both the Luaigini and the Gaellion of Leinster. The Battle of Rosnaree has been recorded in several ancient manuscripts, all agreeing on the fact Mac Nessa and the Ulstermen were victorious. It is stated the most prominent hero of the Ulster Cycle, Conchobar's nephew and the greatest of all Ulster warriors Cú Chulainn, killed Cairpre with a spear before decapitating the Irish King and returning with his head to Ulster's Capital, Emain Macha. The victory extended Ulster’s boundary from the Boyne River to the Rye, which is a tributary of the river Liffay, not far from Dublin. This important battle was one of many that stemmed the tide of the invading Gaels, it would be a few hundred years before the Gaels would finally try to claim kingship of the entirety of the island. Unfortunately over time, the native Cruthin were pushed further and further North as can be evidenced by the archology of the Black Pigs Dyke, Danes Cast and the Dorsey. Huge linear earthworks with massive ramparts rising to 8m high, all built to protect the North from the Irish Gaels. Although the Irish, and significantly, the Uí Néill's, failed to subdue the Cruthin in their entirety, only succeeding in and driving the Uladh into the North-Eastern corner of the province. They plundered and burned Emain Macha and destroyed a number of ancient Cruthin strongholds from Rathkeltir in Downpatrick to Rath Mór in Antrim. Consequent on the Uí Néill invasion of Ulster was an emigration of Uladh to Scotland. The men of the present Dumfries and Galloway were part of the tribe known to the Gaels as Cruthin, and only differed from the Picts of (Scotland), in having come into Western Scotland from Ulster. The people of Ulster and Scotland have always been the same. Prof Dan Bradley of Trinity College Dublin’s Institute of Genetics has done extensive genetic analysis into where the oldest Irish lineage originated and how, or perhaps more importantly, when, they arrived in Ireland. Bradley studies genes associated with the Y chromosome, a genetic inheritance that comes via the father. For his work in this field, he recently received the prestigious Royal Irish Academy Gold Medal. Bradley’s research shows that the strongest, and closest relatives to the modern-day Irish is found in the Northern Iberian Peninsula, the Basque region of Spain. His work found linkages that traced back to the famous Ui Neill kindred, from whom Niall Noigiallagh, Niall of the nine hostages, was descended. Bradley’s work traced the earliest Gaels to approximately 400>200BC which mirrors both the written and archeological evidence. This is possibly the reason why when geneticists look for genetic evidence of the Celts in Ireland, these Celtic genes could not be found, in the South of the Island at least. And yet, the Celtic gene IS found on the Island, but not where one might expect. The Celtic gene is much older than that of the Gael and is seemly tied to the indigenous Cruthin in the North. This mixed genomic people, later to become known as the Uladh, would now be referred to as modern day Ulster-Scots.
I was going to read your dissertation, but when you wrote that there are no Scots-Irish people, I stopped. I have no idea where you live, but I suspect it's either the UK or Ireland. Take a look at In Search of Ulster-Scots Land. I wrote that book after I wrote a a PhD thesis at Glasgow. I find people like you interesting. I did a 10 to 15 minute video to help Americans who call themselves Scots-Irish, yet you have the audacity to claim that these people don't exist. Who are you, Dean?
Most Americans who call themselves Scots-Irish are descended from Protestants who came from Ulster in the 1700s. Some of them have Norman based names; that's for certain, but I'll let you tell them that an American ethnic group is really the people with no name. Who is Dean McDowell and what are your qualifications? @@deanmcdowell199
You have your work cut out for you, Dean. Here's a major American university's explanation of the Scots-Irish. www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/scotirish.htm There are more of them in the US than there are people on the emerald Isle:
The Ulster Plantation was James's idea, but the Tudors were in Ireland, so the experiment of colonizing started decades before the Ulster Plantation and Virginia. If one were to ask the woke crowd of today, they would say that Jamestown was a failure. Beginning in 1619, Jamestown had slaves, and they disposed the natives.
If you were Ireland in the fifth century, you would have been a follower of Celtic Christianity. That's what Patrick built in Ireland. Catholics and Protectants, therefore, claim a connection to him. The Normans brought Catholicism to Ireland in the 11th and 12th centuries.
What's up with the Mull Sea? Have you Google Mull Sea? What does that have to do with the North Channel of the Irish Sea? Did you just pull that name out the air?
Mull sea it effects canada more who started canada. Tutor are French weish ceiltic and Stuart's r french ceiltic oh Smith are the anglo Irish macmillan was Prince of Ireland dose he know oh some Stuart's are Tutors
If you are going to present the history of Scotland, Ireland and Ulster from an American point of view it would be far better if you weren’t speed reading from a script. There is no enunciation and the entire thing runs together without giving the audience a chance to comprehend a single sentence.
Kimberly, if you are going to watch a video and you don't like it, move on to something else. Why be insulting, especially if you have limited cognitive ability to listen and understand spoken words?
Kimberly, there must be something wrong with your audio. That is a complicated topic and requires more than a passing knowledge of the 17th century. I am an American, but I am a descendant of the people James ruled in England, Scotland, and Ireland. I also lived in Dunning, worked in Dundee, and graduated from Glasgow. Still, I have an American accent. At my age, I am afraid I am stuck with my skill set.
A valid criticism. I find this challenging, too, especially when I'm not terribly familiar with the content. Here's a tip that might help. Click the gear icon to open the settings. then adjust the speed. Once you slow it down, it can be easier to comprehend.
Thanks for the insult. Why don’t you do some research, excrement brain? It’s called history, and I earned my PhD at Glasgow. What the f have you ever done, Martin the genius bigot?
Where do you think my ancestors lived in the 1600s? They left in the 1700s because they had the stones to do it. Why don’t you complain about third world immigrants taking over the island? Here’s another American who wishes you a warm jihad holiday.
Ooooo that was interesting! That explains a lot about the attitudes of people in the mountains of southern Appalachia concerning government. In the words of Pete Townshend "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"
Gidget, you have connected the dots! Awesome! Barry
A very entertaining and concise treatment of this historical process, which has so much moment for the American experience, particularly in the South and Appalachians, and in the areas to the West where these peoples later migrated. Good work, Barry!
Thanks, Dr. Velasco!
Thank you, Dr. V! Edifying, as always!
The Fryar-Love family of Tennessee, by way of Ulster, is my connection to the Ulster-Scots. ❤️
Thanks for sharing! Does your name means "So very pretty"? Barry
Very good! I just learned that the Troubles didn't begin in the 1960s, The Trouble really began in the 1600s, ha.
So true! The media would like for people to not know that pitting citizens against each other never works out well. Fairness is essential to peace. Barry
@@BarryVann actually the Proclamation of the Republic of Ireland expressly contains the phrase "cherish all the children of the Nation equally , oblivious to the differences carefully fostered by an alien government"
The trouble in Eire began in 1169 AD, but that's just my personal opinion.
@@Eadbhard Are you talking about the Anglo-Norman arrival? That doesn't involve the Scots. You are making some interesting connections that go beyond the topic of a short video, which is about Irish-Scottish interactions.
@@baronvann1314 Nay, I'm not writing about the Anglo-Norman arrival, not in this comment. But given the topic (Irish-Scottish interactions), I thought it interesting that - at one point in history - the word "Scot" was used to identify the people of Ireland - at least up until Saint Patrick's time.
Thanks for the history lesson. Sadly, governments are still trying to pit their citizens against one another. So many fall for it.
That's why I hate identity politics.
I highly recommend, (IMHO) "Traced" by Nathaniel Jeanson concerning genetics and historic movements of people, in a Biblical timeline.. Selah. I really enjoyed your show today, especially..
@@Calatriste54 Thanks, Scott!
Thanks Barry! You teach us so much. Always a pleasure.
So nice of you, Anita! Thanks! Barry
Fantastic video as always, my brother in Christ!
The majority of my dad's ancestors were ethnically English (Anglo) Presbyterians who immigrated from the Lowlands of Scotland and the North of England to Northern Ireland, where they furthered the culture we'd come to be known for as Southern Baptists in the Smoky Mountains where I grew up, and I'm incredibly proud to carry their blood, their heritage, their politics, and their faith!
May God bless you and yours, sir!
Thank you, brother Birdie!
My people are from Ulster and England, Scotland and England are different countries .
Your English heritage is Anglo Saxon, and your Scot's heritage is Celt, the people of Scotland, the indigenous Irish and the Welsh are all Celt's.
First time I have seen one of your videos. Really enjoyed it. Solid research. Subscribed :)
Hi Ryan, I'm glad that you found the channel. Barry
Leta, thanks for watching and for the great question. If you mean people who are from Northern Ireland but are of Scots descent, I can tell you that some don't care much for Scotland while others do have a keen interest in their roots. I have known quite a few folks from over there, and they fall into different camps. It's like here in the USA. Some care about their heritage, and others don't.
Excellent video. Thank you for sharing. I have done quite a bit of research on this topic while doing my genealogy. My material grandmother was a Morrison whose family left Scotland for Ulster and then came to the US in the 1720s.
Have you looked into the Highland clearances in Scotland? That was another way for "London" to control the people and contributed to the Scottish leaving their homeland. Very sad. Its easy to see why the distrust of those in power runs in our dna.
Thanks for your videos, i just recently subscribed and have loved all that i have seen. The videos with the names are wonderful.
@@OldestLady Yes, the entire movement of Scots to Ulster, after the 13th century, was because of London. I wrote about that history in my book, In Search of Ulster Scots Land: The Birth and Geotheological Imagings of a Transatlantic People.
@BarryVann I need to read your book! Thanks for the info.
@TheVanntagePoint a sure-footed and succint exposition. Well done. American folks might care to know about the Elizabethan plantation of Munster, if only because of the tale of Walter Raleigh who was Mayor of Youghal (when he wasn't slitting throats). A little later, by the way Wm Penn sailed from Cork as he had been fined for non-uniformity, what with his Quaker beliefs. He wrote the book 'No Cross No Crown' which your quote from Jimmy Stuart reminded me of.
Diarmuid, many thanks for the comment, especially about William Penn. He recruited Ulster Protestants to relocate to Pennsylvania. As I remember, you are in Ireland. Aren't you? Barry
@@BarryVann yes here I am. I was intending to do two things (i) offer to pronounce Irish surnames (easy really) (ii) recommend a book on the émigrés of 1798, as so many of them moved to the newer states e.g. Pattersons of KY
@@diarmuidbuckley6638 That would be nice, but I'm not sure how to use another person's voice unless you recorded it and sent it to me as an MP3 file.
My earliest known ancestors are from Fermanagh and my most direct came to Virginia as an indentured servant with the Ulster emigration in the early 1700's. He eventually worked his freedom and joined the British Navy only to die of fever off of Georgia in the War of Jekins Ear. Fortunately, his sons survived so I can be here to post trivia on You Tube! I just finished R.J. Dickson's book on the Ulster Emigration - many things I did not know!
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing!
Fascinating! Thank you for sharing your hard work
Thanks, Gracie! I love this stuff. I hope it was clear and interesting. That's all that really matters. Barry
Thank you..I enjoy your work so much..Paul
Greatly enjoyed this presentation. Question: was it only the Ulster Scots who held to Presbyterianism or was it also strongly present in Wales also? Reason I ask is that the earliest of my paternal ancestors on this continent were said to be from Breckon. Yet they are said to have arrived here at the same time as the Scots Irish. They intermarried with the Scots Irish and immigrated from Pennsylvania into the N.Carolina Piedmont with them. They were said to be staunch Presbyterians, one having a son who was a Presbyterian minister and he, the father,, being a Presbyterian church elder at Poplar Tent. Just trying to connect the dots and figure some things out.
In the seventeenth century, most intellectuals were conversant in Reformed theology, which was the foundation of Presbyterianism. There were Welsh Presbyterians, too.
@@baronvann1314 thank you, sir.
Kudos! EXCELLENT video! As a wise man once said, "If you want peace, work for justice."
Thanks, Jimbob! Barry
Greetings! I hope you are doing well.
In depth very good annalasis of a complicated subject
Thanks, Richard! I appreciate the kind words. Barry
Thanks for posting this!
Thanks, John! I appreciate it! Barry
Thank you for the information, I am a Australian lady in my 30s and just found out my maternal ancestors were ulster.
Wonderful! We have a lot more in common than most people realize. Many of my ancestors came from Ulster.
Love your video as I love history!
Glad you enjoyed, Anarose! Barry
Very educational thank u, inhave both irish and ulster scot ancestors on different branches of my tree and im trying to understand their history
I share that journey with you! Thanks for watching and for writing. Barry Vann
A compelling topic, to be sure. Thank you for the informative video.
Although not really germane to the Ulster Plantation and the topics you discussed, I always found it interesting how, in ancient times, Ireland was known as "Scotia". The name "Scotia" came from "Scoti" which was the term the Romans used for the original Gaels of Ireland. Unless I miss my guess, I don't believe the name was used in reference to Scotland until the late Middle Ages.
Thanks for sharing!
He is speed reading from a script with an American accent...couldn’t make heads or tails of it. He’s probably never even been to Scotland, Ireland or Ulster, NI! Ugh 🤦🏻♀️ If one is going to recite history at least enunciate clearly!!
@@kimberlywallace6148 If you are talking about me, you must be unfamiliar with accents different from your own. Most people who are sophisticated enough to watch a video on TH-cam know how to Google a name to see if it is legitimate.
@@kimberlywallace6148 Ulster is in Ireland, and I graduated from the University of Glasgow, taught at Dundee, and lived in Dunning about nine miles from Perth. Perhaps your audio is not playing the sound well.
@@kimberlywallace6148 ya done been roasted! sorry about my pronunciation
Thanks for this. In the wake of the Northern Irish Assembly election results of last week, a lot of us may benefit from a refresher course on Irish (and Northern Irish and Scotish) history.
I vaguely knew of the reputation of the "Scots-Irish" (including their disproportionate prominence in Appalachia and the South and their also disproportionate role in the history of the US military - and militarism): we up here in (French) Canada remember the Southern states-driven War of 1812, which somehow managed to make us see the (admittedly limited) benefits of British colonial rule.
But what struck me most is how similar in social and religious instincts Orange Ulster seems to Bible Belt America not just in the early modern/colonial era but even today.
I'm not sure that's a good thing...
You are welcome. I appreciate the thoughtful comment. You mentioned Orange Ulster. The color orange is a prominent hue in the American south. That traces back to William and Mary of Orange.
What do the roles of seminaries/state religion play in this expansion? Did Presbyterians ministers specifically use King James text by decree or choice? Were roaming Calvinist/Puritain ministers common?
I assumed Baptist/Pentecostal churches became dominant, because of the lack of infrastructure and different ‘hills & hollars’ in Appalachia.
Appreciate the video. If you don’t mind, when you produce your next in the series, would you include more maps? Helps us visual learners keep up. Have a great day!
Hi Angie, during the 1620s and again in the first half of the 1800s, revivals, even with Presbyterians. were popular. These folks were called New Lights to contrast them with less evangelical old lights. Presbyterians stressed seminary educations, so they seldom went to the rough frontier where they weren't offered much income. Pentecostals appeared in the late 1800s and 1900s. Like Baptists, they stressed spiritual calling in lieu of an academic education.
Can’t wait to hear about how Cromwell used all of this to gain power. Thanks!
Very interesting. Thank you.
Very cool lecture sir!
Glad you liked it!
Really enjoyed the history today. As a "Sweeney" Anrothan O'Neill was the Progenitor of The Sweeney Clan. (in Scotland till Bannock Burn) According to Leabhar Clainne Suibhne (The Clan Sweeney) history in Both Ireland and Scotland pre-King James.
Awesome. Jeff! You are a true Ulster-Scot! Barry
Fascinating. I need to rewatch to take it all in. Other than their lack of papal authority and certain sacraments, I don’t see a lot of difference between the Anglican Church and Catholicism. The Anglican Church in America became The Episcopal Church and seemed to be prevalent in the Antebellum Deep South. But I guess that is topic for another discussion.
That's a great observation! The Deep South was an agrarian region, so it was attractive to royalists who brought Anglicanism with them. The poorer sorts made their way to the backcountry; they were typically Anabaptists, Presbyterians, Quakers, and Wesleyans.
I’m an American in the state of Texas.
My Irish ancestors came here in 1658 to Virginia. I can trace my people back to County longford Ireland on my dad’s side to about 1470 .
Our last name is Ferrell and my grandfather that came here in 1658 was captain Hubbard Hubert Ferrell who got shot in the stomach while defending Jamestown during Bacons Rebellion in 1676 . He was under the command of Sr William Berkeley.
My question is what Might his Religious affiliation be seeing that he married an Anglican ? He probably was not a catholic right , even though he is Irish ?
I’m a Reformed Baptist 1689 guy myself
Michael, Irish Catholics came during the Potato Famine in the late 1840s. The Church of Ireland, like the Church of Scotland in the 17th century, were essentially Anglicans with bishops; they answered to the monarch. Jamestown worship was Anglican.
@@BarryVann that makes some sense yes , but they left Ireland in 1658 near the end of Cromwells campaign which makes me think that they might have been fleeing Longford do to the Roman Catholic rebellion
Fascinating thank you. Coming from the Republic of Ireland (but living in the UK for 3 decades) we were not well schooled in the internal religious goals or competing religious forces of the reign of King James.
I thought that over time, especially into the mid 17th century, it suited the English with the established Church of England to “persuade” the more democratically and radically minded groups such as Puritans and Presbyterians to settle elsewhere. The goal was to ensure these groups remained economically useful but not a threat to the political status quo. This would not be the first time that radical Scottish thinking about local empowerment and consent to being ruled would be “deflected” away from England. As an American you will be more aware than most of the life experiences of Thomas Paine.
Scots who think about politics do so in a way that is very different from English people who think about politics. We see that in Britain into the 21st century. Tony Blair’s Labour government took measures to strengthen the prevalence of rights in British law (under English law you only have freedoms, until the Government says you don’t) as as well as nominal steps on separation of powers e.g. restricting the role of Lord Chancellor. It also implemented (unevenly) devolution of power to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
These are all things that the largely pro-Brexit Conservative Party wish to reverse or dilute following the Brexit Leave vote.
Plan of Battle, you are most welcome! I am in Switzerland at the moment to do some lecturing on research methodology to doctoral students. I always enjoy learning about how our British and European cousins view politics and religion.
Thank God for BREXIT! Rule by Diktat from Brussels isn't worth it.
Robert I also owned land in Essex in England. He wasn't either Scots or Irish, he was descended from William the Conqueror.
Interesting observation, Nigel. I wonder of he thought of himself as Scottish at Bannockburn. I think of him as Norman.
How are you doing dr Barry happy mother day to yours and ours and all mothers we celebrated mother day last March it’s different date around world we in Arabic countries as well as England you in USA and Canada on May. As always iam gathering key points about topics you mentioned briefly here it’s king James and ulster plantation it’s was origanised colonisation ( plantation) - province of Ireland- from Great Britain during reign of king James 1 . Most of settlers ( planters) came from southern Scotland and northern England. Their culture differed from that of native Irish . Small privately funded plantations by wealthy landowners began in 1606 , while official plantain began in 1609 . Most of colonised land had been confiscated from native Gaelic chief several of whom had fled Ireland for main land Europe in year 1607 , following nine years war against English rule . The official plantation comprised an estimated half million acres .
Comedic accents aside. It's often forgotten that the nearest Scots to Antrim etc were Gaelic spoken Presbyterians from Galloway. The folk must often have been bilingual as many are today although the Galloway version now extinct.?
The folks in Galloway spoke a form of Brythonic, not Gaelic, before they adopted English: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Strathclyde
Like the rest of Southern Scotland Galloway spoke Old Welsh. That was replaced by Gaelic which was still spoken into the 19th century having been replaced by Scots.
English came later.
@@forbesmeek6304 Scots is an English dialect; it’s related to Northumbrian. Old Welsh is a Brythonic tongue. Brythonic is one of two branches of Celtic languages. Gaelic is the other branch.
@@forbesmeek6304 I did a four part series on this material.
Scots is not an English dialect. Do a bit more reading.
My Dads side is Scots Irish. Last place they lived was in Belfast and ended up participating in the American revolution.From what ive read the Scots Irish are known for their hot temper-love of alcohol and mental instability at times.They were a perfect fit on the American frontier.
Steve they were also disproportionately represented in Washington's military.
@@BarryVann ive been told that my gr gr gr etc grandfather was a major and recieved land on the Ohio but have never checked into it. I know they have lived there since right after the revolution.
Thank You!
Amazing how much of the ulster scot Irish perspective/worldview still alive today in American culture. Some dna sure is strong. I wouldn’t be where I am today without mine.
I can appreciate that thought, Jo! Ancestry tells me that I am 70% Scottish and Irish; it's hard to distinguish Ulster Scot from Scots.
My family is Scots Irish. County Down.
I could not understand my grandfather's and his brother's hate for catholics.
I remember him quiting the orange order because a young boy was allowed to be a drummer in the orange order band and his mother had been catholic. She had divorced and became protestant to re marry.
That was too much.
Terrible thing how the political class sets us against each other for their gain.
They find race more useful now.
Thanks for the excellent video.
Terrible accent though.
Thanks, Larry, as terrible as it is, my natural sound isn't much of an improvement over my English accent. When I was a student at Glasgow, people asked me not to do a Scots accent; they said I sounded more like a Pakistani than a Scot! My grandmother raised me. She was born in the Appalachian Mountains and had never met a Catholic. When I told her that I visited a Catholic church, she was disgusted.
@@BarryVann history is a record of human nature and behavior.
Remember that and with a little study we are better able to see our flaws.
Unfortunately it is being corrupted for political purposes yet again.
I think of Orwell's observation
"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."
George Orwell, 1984
Thanks for your efforts.
@@larrydugan1441 Well stated, Larry. Orwell had many sound observations. I enjoy hearing Jordan Peterson talk about him.
Barry
@@BarryVann oh you studied in Glasgow you know abot Rangers and celtic then
Good stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it! Barry
Last part of my research (2,000 km) of arable land in counties Armagh Cavan, fermonagh, Tyrone, tyrconnellian , Londonderry, land in counties Antrim, down , Monaghan was privately colonised with king support. If you please iam subscriber to British channel the owner her name is Caroline I told her about her name meaning and origin because series of videos surnames it’s means strong French origin brought to England by wife of king George 11 Caroline of ansbach thank you for your great efforts giving us chance to read learn new information improve our English language as well stay safe blessed good luck to you your family friends.
Boy Howdy if you didn't shuck out a bunch of truth in this one, not that you didn't in the rest! This one is where my mom said I stepped i as far as Scots, Scots-Irish, Dutch and welsh too. GLAD to be here. Keep pumping them out you Hillbilly! Glad you decided to come back HOME! GBWYall!
How are you doing dr Barry actually biography of queen Mary is very sad she lived miserable since her birth till her death . I gathered main points about topics you mentioned briefly here it’s Mary Queen of Scots ( born in 1542 - died in 1587 ) she was known as Mary Stuart or Mary of Scotland, she was queen of Scots from year 1542 until she forced abdication in 1567. She married three times of Francis king of France, lord Darnley. Earl of bothwell . She had one child with lord Darnley in 1566 who want to become James v 1king of Scotland and England. She executed at fothering hay castle in Northampton shire at at age 44 . Her son had her body and placed with Henry v11 chapel in Westminster abbey . She changed world secured legitimate succession to the throne by having son . She was imprisoned they believed Elizabeth was illegitimate and Mary as descendent of Henry v111 sister Margaret Tudor was rightful heir Elizabeth was reluctant to have her killed , so she imprisoned her instead for 19 years .
Excellent summary, Khatoon! Keep up the good work! Barry
Gotta be the hardest history ever to learn
I had the privilege of studying this material while I was in doc student in Scotland.
The situation in Ireland and Highland Scotland prior to the Fight of the Earles 1607 and Culloden in 1745 was like it is now in Afghanistan with tribal and clan warfare almost continual but a "common enemy" was always more important than their clan rivalries. After 1745 the British Empire grew to being the largest Maritime Empire the world has ever seen and USA was created from the people leaving Britain and "starting again" in USA. The English Bill of Rights 1689, French Rights of Man 1789, US Billof rights (ratified) 1791 laid the foundation of modern Democracy based upon Protestantism which preaches a direct line between YOU and GOD without any need for an intermediary which is basically what most people believe now including those that are not even Christian..just MODERN
@@Bob-nd2mr The earls had no chance against James, but it was better than Elizabeth and Mary tried to do.
Mom's side of family
Church paternal
Browne
Trivette maternal
Greer
These names are my ties to this part of your story
My wife's family ( Dill ) came to the colonies from the Ulster Plantation.
Thanks for watching and for writing, Scott! Barry
Thanks, Doc. That was quick and concise. Much appreciation.
As an aside; I have a theory that the 'Rebel Yell' so feared by the Federals originated with, or descended from, the 'Highland Charge'. A bunch of wild-eyed, barefoot boys; a whoopin' and a hollerin' and runnin' straight at you. Would make me think twice.
What do you think?
God Bless You 'n' Yours
"Your" theory is a widespread and common one. First advanced by historian Grady McWhiney, many articles and books have been written about the subject - Craig A. Warren's, "The Rebel Yell" and James Gannon's, "Irish Rebels, Confederate Tigers", are just a few books that mention the possible Celtic origins of the 'Rebel Yell'.
@@Eadbhard Thank You for Your response. So, it's not 'my' theory. I'd not been familiar with your references, but I will certainly follow your recommendations.
"Rebel Yell" is also a pretty good Bourbon.
Cheers!
"Alexander Peden (1626 - 26 January 1686), also known as "Prophet Peden", was one of the leading figures in the Covenanter movement in Scotland.
He was also indeed. I talk about him in my book: In Search and of Ulster Scots Land: The Birth and Geotheological Imagings of a Transatlantic People.
@BarryVann I am a descendant of David Poe. Thank You for this video
@@mwingopoe7 You’re welcome! Thank you for watching and writing! Barry
Of course it's an American telling us Irish that Ulster belongs to the Ulster Scots...... Ulster is Irish and will remain Irish even if we have to give every single drop of our blood for our native land. As god as my witness all of Ulster will be re-joined into it's Original state of the 32 county Republic of Ireland.
I never said that Ulster belongs to anyone. As God as my witness, I hope you don't have to lose any blood to have a homeland. I have no interest in Ireland after 1847 when the last of my people left.
Guy, take it easy. I'm completely in agreement with your point of view. But over time, I have heard, many of the descendents of Scots Irish in America have read or been told about what happened in Ireland, thought about it and become more sympathetic to the Irish viewpoint.
Some, I bet, will have visited Ireland and experienced the friendliness and helpfulness of many [yes, we have a few jerks as elsewhere] of the Irish and that has changed attitudes over time.
Don't forget, they rebelled against the crown too. Some, I'm told, have even stopped calling themselves Scots-Irish and now just call themselves 'Irish' [ie. Americans of Irish descent usually friendly to Ireland]. We need to keep cultivating American/International friendships. It's part of fighting back without blood having to be spilt.
Thank you sir, beautiful 🐓 presentation,, I know that some of the scots Irish people are with the holy spirit, and always have been,,very powerful spirit and religion doesn't like it,no King but Jesus Christ,,peace brother keep your powder dry,the tomahawk Sharp,, He said if this were My kingdom My people would fight,,, they know He is coming soon 🐓
Robert the Bruce was one of my great-grandfathers through the Clan Stewart's.
Thank's for that info Barry, very interesting. But: you might want to practise your accent a little more. LOL
If I don't have it now, I never will. 😀
Im a Mcmillan s well And the names he brings up are part Britons
What does McMillan have to do with the story and subject of the video? What do you mean by Britons? Where do you think Britain is located?
@BarryVann your not irsh Scott are you it's a tribe name there other sub parts of the Celtic tribes from that area. It should be called the Sea of isles. Not The island sea .oh McDonald's and McCloud come from The Isle of sky.
Darcy, I appreciate you for watching and writing, but half of the stuff you mention is news to me. I am a geographer (PhD University of Glasgow), so I’m not just an American who woke up one day and decided to do videos on Scotland and Ireland. Your writing reads like English is not your first language. So, what’s your point?
Yes I am my grandmother
@@BarryVann all good did alit of research mix up some stuff oh look up Finn McCool
@BarryVann OK what did you study re so did Irish Scott mix with a Hebrew called Negro, something tribe. Tell me what the last name McMillan means Where does saint Columbia, come from.
@@BarryVann eh my point did I have one or was I sharing knowledg with a irsh Scott
"n 1667, a number of Scots were forced to leave Scotland following the Pentland Rising (Rullion Green) in 1666. In the Dundonald records, a David Poe in Polkelly, on a farm bordering Fenwick and Stewarton, seven miles from Irvine. On November 21, 1666 he was with others, declared an outlaw by the King’s Herald. On December 4, 1666, this proclamation was read at the Market Cross in the parish church of Irvine. David Poe and others became fugatives, hunted covenanters, hiding in Ayrshire. They were never arrested, but the King had them tried in absence on evidence of witnesses and sentenced them to be hanged. David Poe escaped to Ireland. On October 1, 1667, the King’s pardon was granted to all who had taken part in the late rebellion, but with special exception of David Poe.
Thanks for the message and information.
@@BarryVann your are very welcomed
But over all yah he right what mos leve out is Hebrew mix in irland in 400 ad or around
Why would Jews come to Ireland in the 4th century? If they did get there, they were few in number. At the end of the day, what does that have to do with King James and the Ulster Plantation? What does the Isle of Mull have to do with the story? Why are nearly all of your words misspelled?
Thank you for the very informative video. My father's side claims Scots Irish decent. The last name is Scottish, but of Irish origin. Irish that migration into Scotland defending McDonald lands, and later given the lands. Munro. He was told they were black Irish which said was either protestant (they were) or dark haired also true as there are very few red heads in our family. I wonder how do Ulter Scots of Irish origin view their positions.
You are most welcome! Americans of Ulster Scots descent have spent 250 years away from the Irish portion of the population. Some of them care about their heritage and others don't. The same can be said for Americans. The Ulster-American Folk Park is located in County Tyrone. I have visited it. The folks over there would be able to tell you more about how locals view their heritage.
The spiritual home of Ulster Scots is ...Scotland.
Any time they fancy teturning there , go right ahead.
I'll second that! Thanks, Barry Vann
@@BarryVann The spiritual home of US citizens, other than "native Americans", is Europe. Do you suggest that they should all return to Europe?
Interesting video, but unfortunately it's missing a fundamental aspect. It's impossible to jump on from the point you have without taking the history of this part of the world into consideration, and when I say this part, I am of course referring to ancient Ulster. Let me start with the glaring misconception, you refer to the scots irish but of course, there is no such people.
Modern day Irish, stretching back to the time you are referring to, are in themselves Gaelic colonisers from Northern Europe, arriving in what is now Southern Ireland in approx. 400>200BC. An 8th century Irish manuscript named the Lebor Gabála Érenn (Book of Invasions) alludes to this fact and makes us aware the 'Irish' were actually quite late on the timescale of Irish/Ulster history.
The first recorded evidence of human activity in this part of the world is between 10>7000BC in Mount Sandel, Coleraine. It was these indigenous people that the Gaels themselves referred to as Cruthine (painted people), or more commonly...Pictish (Painted people in Latin) along with the arrival of the Belgae Celts from modern day Lancaster to Larne, gave there name to what we now know as Ulster (Uladh).
Since the first Gael stepped upon the shores of Insula Sacra (Ireland), the Island has been ‘swordland’. Battles have been fought in every corner of the island and one of the earliest recorded is the Battle of Rosnaree.
The battlefield sits just south of the Boyne River, within sight of Newgrange burial tomb and has been recorded in the Ulster Cycle (ancient Irish literature) as "Cath Ruis na Riogh". The story is set around the reign of the Ulster King Conchobar Mac Nessa of the Cruthin, who reigned from the capital of Ulster in Emain Macha (Modern day Navan Fort).
The battle is recorded as being fought between Conchobar and Cairpre Nia Fer, High King of Ireland in around 200AD. The ancient saga suggests the battle was in retaliation for an invasion of Ulster by the Irish from Co. Louth and Connaught and assisted by warrior bands from both the Luaigini and the Gaellion of Leinster.
The Battle of Rosnaree has been recorded in several ancient manuscripts, all agreeing on the fact Mac Nessa and the Ulstermen were victorious. It is stated the most prominent hero of the Ulster Cycle, Conchobar's nephew and the greatest of all Ulster warriors Cú Chulainn, killed Cairpre with a spear before decapitating the Irish King and returning with his head to Ulster's Capital, Emain Macha.
The victory extended Ulster’s boundary from the Boyne River to the Rye, which is a tributary of the river Liffay, not far from Dublin. This important battle was one of many that stemmed the tide of the invading Gaels, it would be a few hundred years before the Gaels would finally try to claim kingship of the entirety of the island.
Unfortunately over time, the native Cruthin were pushed further and further North as can be evidenced by the archology of the Black Pigs Dyke, Danes Cast and the Dorsey. Huge linear earthworks with massive ramparts rising to 8m high, all built to protect the North from the Irish Gaels. Although the Irish, and significantly, the Uí Néill's, failed to subdue the Cruthin in their entirety, only succeeding in and driving the Uladh into the North-Eastern corner of the province. They plundered and burned Emain Macha and destroyed a number of ancient Cruthin strongholds from Rathkeltir in Downpatrick to Rath Mór in Antrim. Consequent on the Uí Néill invasion of Ulster was an emigration of Uladh to Scotland. The men of the present Dumfries and Galloway were part of the tribe known to the Gaels as Cruthin, and only differed from the Picts of (Scotland), in having come into Western Scotland from Ulster.
The people of Ulster and Scotland have always been the same. Prof Dan Bradley of Trinity College Dublin’s Institute of Genetics has done extensive genetic analysis into where the oldest Irish lineage originated and how, or perhaps more importantly, when, they arrived in Ireland. Bradley studies genes associated with the Y chromosome, a genetic inheritance that comes via the father. For his work in this field, he recently received the prestigious Royal Irish Academy Gold Medal.
Bradley’s research shows that the strongest, and closest relatives to the modern-day Irish is found in the Northern Iberian Peninsula, the Basque region of Spain. His work found linkages that traced back to the famous Ui Neill kindred, from whom Niall Noigiallagh, Niall of the nine hostages, was descended. Bradley’s work traced the earliest Gaels to approximately 400>200BC which mirrors both the written and archeological evidence.
This is possibly the reason why when geneticists look for genetic evidence of the Celts in Ireland, these Celtic genes could not be found, in the South of the Island at least. And yet, the Celtic gene IS found on the Island, but not where one might expect. The Celtic gene is much older than that of the Gael and is seemly tied to the indigenous Cruthin in the North. This mixed genomic people, later to become known as the Uladh, would now be referred to as modern day Ulster-Scots.
I was going to read your dissertation, but when you wrote that there are no Scots-Irish people, I stopped. I have no idea where you live, but I suspect it's either the UK or Ireland. Take a look at In Search of Ulster-Scots Land. I wrote that book after I wrote a a PhD thesis at Glasgow. I find people like you interesting. I did a 10 to 15 minute video to help Americans who call themselves Scots-Irish, yet you have the audacity to claim that these people don't exist. Who are you, Dean?
Most Americans who call themselves Scots-Irish are descended from Protestants who came from Ulster in the 1700s. Some of them have Norman based names; that's for certain, but I'll let you tell them that an American ethnic group is really the people with no name. Who is Dean McDowell and what are your qualifications? @@deanmcdowell199
www.familytreedna.com/groups/scots-irish/surnames
You have your work cut out for you, Dean. Here's a major American university's explanation of the Scots-Irish. www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/scotirish.htm There are more of them in the US than there are people on the emerald Isle:
Is this your page? www.widewalls.ch/artists/dean-mcdowell
Plantation Jamestown was a huge success was before the Ulster Plantation the Ulster Plantation was a colossal failure.
The Ulster Plantation was James's idea, but the Tudors were in Ireland, so the experiment of colonizing started decades before the Ulster Plantation and Virginia. If one were to ask the woke crowd of today, they would say that Jamestown was a failure. Beginning in 1619, Jamestown had slaves, and they disposed the natives.
Only USA call Irish scots when we call ulster scots. We were all catholics at beginning..
If you were Ireland in the fifth century, you would have been a follower of Celtic Christianity. That's what Patrick built in Ireland. Catholics and Protectants, therefore, claim a connection to him. The Normans brought Catholicism to Ireland in the 11th and 12th centuries.
Mull sea
What's up with the Mull Sea? Have you Google Mull Sea? What does that have to do with the North Channel of the Irish Sea? Did you just pull that name out the air?
@BarryVann that's what it was called at one time between UK and Ireland didn't say now mull is McMillan
Mull sea it effects canada more who started canada. Tutor are French weish ceiltic and Stuart's r french ceiltic oh Smith are the anglo Irish macmillan was Prince of Ireland dose he know oh some Stuart's are Tutors
What the Canada have to do with this video? Have you actually watched it?
@BarryVann your not Irish highlander. Are you they back jackobite like they did the Bruce or mcbeth
Irish kingdome of alba
@BarryVann oh yah the the one how charged every thing with st pattie
@@BarryVann oh jackobite is James in Latin
Bruh are you American
Yes. I lived in Scotland and graduated from the University of Glasgow.
If you are going to present the history of Scotland, Ireland and Ulster from an American point of view it would be far better if you weren’t speed reading from a script. There is no enunciation and the entire thing runs together without giving the audience a chance to comprehend a single sentence.
Kimberly, if you are going to watch a video and you don't like it, move on to something else. Why be insulting, especially if you have limited cognitive ability to listen and understand spoken words?
Kimberly, there must be something wrong with your audio. That is a complicated topic and requires more than a passing knowledge of the 17th century. I am an American, but I am a descendant of the people James ruled in England, Scotland, and Ireland. I also lived in Dunning, worked in Dundee, and graduated from Glasgow. Still, I have an American accent. At my age, I am afraid I am stuck with my skill set.
A valid criticism. I find this challenging, too, especially when I'm not terribly familiar with the content. Here's a tip that might help. Click the gear icon to open the settings. then adjust the speed. Once you slow it down, it can be easier to comprehend.
Another American giving a history lesson about a country he knows little about.
Thanks for the insult. Why don’t you do some research, excrement brain? It’s called history, and I earned my PhD at Glasgow. What the f have you ever done, Martin the genius bigot?
Where do you think my ancestors lived in the 1600s? They left in the 1700s because they had the stones to do it. Why don’t you complain about third world immigrants taking over the island? Here’s another American who wishes you a warm jihad holiday.