The Worst Thing Gambit Ever Did...Wasn't That Bad
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 พ.ย. 2024
- The time has finally come for this channel to be the landing zone for long, incredibly niche rants about Gambit. We are home ladies and gentlemen.
No but seriously, I have been making comic content online for nearly 5 years and have done my fair share of trashing things unfairly for views. So, I took a long hard look at one of my least favorite stories and found a way to like it (overly complex headcanon notwithstanding)
Main story in Uncanny X-Men (1963) 350 and X-Men Origins: Gambit
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There is something really special about somebody passionately infodumping about a character you have no connection with, its like "okay take me on this journey where are we going?"
part of being a comic fan is making complex in depth headcanons with textual evidence and i think this is one of my favorites yet
I love that headcanon a lot! It's definitely more in-line with his character, it actually places some responsibility on him and it's almost funny in a tragic way; he tried to fuck them over and it backfired tremendously. There's a lesson in that. He *could've* killed most if them himself but he wanted his cake and to eat it too which led to him almost getting killed by this mix of genuine threats and absolute fucking losers that he wanted to be petty against
as an xmen fan, i find it very relatable to have defining moments for favorite characters happen literal decades before i was born
i love hearing you talk about comics like this !! it’s so fun and you give enough context for someone who knows everything and someone who knows nothing while keeping them both entertained !!
I never knew all the stuff he knows about gambit. But I looved watching gambit in the animated series
That makes so much sense... Tho it does leave the feeling that something is off... I thought Gambits secret would be something heinous, and it is, but still not as vile behaviour as I supposed...
No cause I love this so much. I'm taking this and running with it as far as I can. I'm doing the squinting and I'm doing the head tilting.
Fabian mentioned! I love how he portrayed Gambit's guilt back then
What kind of monster lead to a shit load of death and suffering for humans and mutants? Oh hay Charles, Logan, Scott, Steven, Reed, and Tony
Hope you're having a good day
ERIC THE RED MENTIONED
Gosh I wish that was me, some of my favorites are maximoffs
The recent Hellions book got me interested in John Greycrow, do you have any thoughts about him?
I think he is one of the most irredeemable characters in comics and the fact that Hellions actually DID succeed in making him so sympathetic is amazing. That book is a tour de force and I'm excited to see where John goes from there
FINALLY I FOUND THE CHANNEL! BET YOU DON'T REMEMBER ME:)
This is why I will not read comics, marvel or dc, because no one gives a damn about making it make sense. Just random ideas going on and on hoping for one nugget that feels right out of stupidity, and not even for stupidity's sake. Like erik who? Someone did what to storm? And Rogue abandoned Gambit why? For being a slightly morally wrong but still hero in the end? Jesus, so many different ideas that hate and destroy each other in the hopes one is ok at best sounds awful to read
I don't feel like that's a fair takeaway.
@@nikhilclayton im partially venting, and many great stories have come from comics, but I hear the same good storylines and everytime I hear of any other there's almost always something wrong with it because of the reasons above. I just dont get why we cant get a person to lead a comic run, finish the story they want to tell and wrap up, then let the next person come in, rinse and repeat. Its always someone sets up an idea, another has to somehow spend their time carrying it or fixing it and then maybe try something before someone else comes in and messes it up too. Like five people coloring in one page all at once with no mics
@@718jefwhat you described is how most comic runs work. One author takes over, tells the stories they want, and leaves for someone else to take the book. Stuff like one writer's story getting scrapped does happen, but that also happens in every medium that requires more than one person like movies, games, theater or TV. All sorts of issues can happen in production the dark knight returns was supposed to have joker in it but heath ledger died, justice league had major rewrites.
Big creative teams are like boats, they are complicated hard to steer quickly.
Bruh he LED them there not "went with them" That is the difference lol
I mean he still didn't know what was in the tunnels or where they were going lmao. He just walked in front
@nikhilclayton yes but im just pointing out when you were defending him you failed to mention that lol. Regardless of gambits intent that factor solidifies guilt even if partial.
the problem with that is this was one of the most messed up events that had happened at that point. It was the murder of a bunch of mutant homeless and kids. Like you can downplay that all you want but if that happened in real life people would be angry at every party involved. Period. You gotta respect that haha
@nikhilclayton wait a second yes he led them to the morlocks he didnt know they were gonna kill them but he did lead them to the morlocks. That was part of the deal from Sinister. Why else would they have been down there anyway?
@nikhilclayton Remy probably thought Sinister wanted to recruit maybe? Idr exactly
@ im not disputing any of this haha. Though again, they were down there because sinister sent them. The key point is whether Gambit “led” them or not, they would’ve gone down there and done the massacre. He had no agency in it actually being carried out. This vid is just about how the only active choice he makes is the members of the team and looking into what that might have involved/why he’d pick these specific ppl
Man, you seem like a really knowledgeable guy in comic books. Perhaps we should have a nerd off to see who knows more about a character than the other. All fun ideas aside. I really love your content. Do you have a discord I can join?
canon isnt real, you both kow more than the other, the writer of the comics you got your canon from didnt read all the canon comics.
you both know more than each other
@@NotAllowedToBeARealFan That is true by the same time. Does it fit the narrative because like if you read the ultimate Universe (the new one) The writers working very hard to keep the narrative, cohesive and tight making the universe feel more alive
@@nickypool415 @nickypool415 yeah, thats a conversation about good writing, you proposed a "nerd off to see who knows more" so, we are both correct due to making independent points completely irrespective of each others
@@nickypool415 cool point, completely irrespective of your original one though. Way easier to agree with that than the idea of a "nerd off to see who knows more"|
@@NotAllowedToBeARealFan The reason I said that is because of me wanting to know more. It's more like saying that "show me your knowledge so I can learn",not flexing! But then again English is complicated. So It makes sense. I just want to have people talking about comic books and seeing a person know a character more than I do. Makes me want to know what issues that I missed out on. That's it 😊