My dad died last night. Some of my favorite moments with my dad began by taking our dogs out when i visited. They would end 5 hours later with us sitting on the porch discussing anything from psychology to car maitance to musical interests to theoretical physics or philosophical frameworks to a sitcom we enjoyed. I do (and, surely, will continue to) miss these moments. I felt some sort of comfort while watching this video. I follow the channel, and i watch every week, but today I played the video. I couldn't hear the data. What I did see, though, is a dad, a daughter, and their pups sharing a moment together and taking the time and energy to connect. Thanks.
It sounds like you two had a strong bond. It's hard to lose a family member - doubly so when they're also your friend. My condolences to you and your family ❤
I miss my Dad too. He was also a great talker and LOVED our dogs (we had many labradors over the course of my life). I remember him getting home from work and getting down on the floor and stretching his back while the dogs happily copied him and followed him around waiting for the treat they knew was coming from him. My parents used to get into arguments about how my dad would let them get on the bed while my mom would be disgusted (because she knew where their feet were recently) 😂 When our last dog was dying after a long and happy life, my dad just held her in his arms as they lay together on the floor like they always did. He was devastated. More so than for some of his friends who had passed. When he had a heart attack and was in and out of consciousness, I could not get back home to be with my family and be by his side. We live on opposite coasts. It was such an unreal experience and it still seems like maybe it didn’t happen, maybe we haven’t spoken on the phone for a long time….it’s just a longer pause than normal. In a way, perhaps that’s actually how it is after all. I do see him in my dreams and that feeling needs its own name because it is real to my mind, I feel it in my body upon waking. I miss him terribly bc he was someone who loved me unconditionally and even better, understood and liked me. So often I think of things that I need to call and share only to remember that he’s gone silent. It’s only been three years and it’s forever and also no time at all. My dogs definitely have helped me move through the grief and the disorientation of great loss. For all of their infant-like behaviors and needs, they are also extremely wise and supportive in ways that call into question our so called superiority. I am sorry for your pain and the loss of your father, know that it will get less difficult. ❤
It’s my favorite channel now. I enjoy how authentic and not overengineered it is. Thank you, Professor Sapolsky, for sharing your vast knowledge with us; you have been my hero since university. And thank you to his daughter for driving this!!! Looking forward to the next episode.
As someone who wanted a dog but was adopted by a cat, I'd be quite interested in a video similar to this one but focused on cats! I've come to have an appreciation for the quirks of cats. For example, mine is currently sitting upright in a chair, surveying the neighbourhood and occasionally looking up at the sky.
I met a family who had the most beautiful child who had William’s Syndrome. That interaction was so profound that I think of that beautiful child often. I think we as a species should strive to be more like her. PS she was lucky in that she had been born into a huge loving family that was very protective of her. Before meeting her I was basically vetted and educated about William’s Syndrome. Smart loving family.
"We give them the time we can spare and the love we can spare and in return DOGS gives us their all, best deal that mankind ever made" don't know who said it but it's best summery of our relationship i know of.
I look forward to your special conversations every time. I have listened to Prof Sapolsky's lectures multiple times as well as all his interviews, including the ones dealing with his latest book, Determined. I have read and re-read all his books and feel so enriched by the knowledge that he has shared with us. I am now retired after a professional life in accountancy and law; I just wish I could have heard of Neurobiology when I first went to university, so many decades ago. Well, in my retirement, I have found my enriching and most enjoyable topic, thanks so very much to the time, some 3-4 years ago, that I discovered a truly great person, Prof Sapolsky, and of course following on, meeting the whole family. STUPENDOUS!
As a dog and cat fan I found this talk extra awesome! The histories behind both human and our domesticated cohabiters was intriguing and it amazes me that the transformation from wild to domestic happened relatively quickly from an evolutionary point of view. Love the talks - keep em' comin'!
I am a fan of Dr Sapolsky and am really enjoying the father-offspring videos. I am also a Dog nerd and found this chat particularly interesting. However, I was left with a burning question. Dr Sapolsky concludes, in this video, that Dogs are "...dependent on us because they've developed enzymes that make it impossible to digest what wolves would do at this point. They would die from protein toxicity." Is Dr Sapolsky suggesting that Dogs fed prey model raw are going to die of protein toxicity? Also, exactly which digestive enzyme makes it impossible for a Dog to digest what wolves would (I assume raw, whole prey?). Thank you so much for answering my question .
Waking up to a new episode! You made my day, thank you. Our poodle uses communication buttons. It's amazing to see how the dogs evolved to communicate with us so much so they are willing to learn new ways of communication as speaking buttons. I know it isn't a language but it sure is a communication. Greetings from the Netherlands and keep making those amazing podcasts ❤
This episode is fabulous and so interesting!! ❤ I’m watching my sister’s Pomeranian for 2 months and I’m on oxytocin overload! He is SO CUTE, loving and attentive! 🥰 He looks like cross between a miniature lion and a fox kit. 🤎🖤🤎🐕 (she may not get him back😆)
The Mirror Test in/of the Looking Glass Universe, nicely presented as our relationship with dog-gone determination. Relevance made visible as universal domestication. Great demonstration of co incidence. Thank you for this focused attention on sociability.
I have Maxine a purebred Belgian Malinois, and Fritz a German wire-shorthaired pointer mix, the Malinois is Velcro'd to my side, Fritz is affectionate on his terms, both have extreme prey/food/ball drive and highly trainable. Both are shelter dogs, Maxine would have run out of viable options if I hadn't adopted her. She hadn't been socialized to environmental stimuli nor humans as a puppy, at 14 months she was completely untrained. She had been returned twice to the shelter for nipping and a dog fight by two separate families. I knew she had issues, although sadly she was far worse than imagined, but I love a challenge. She needed a patient handler who would be all in "ride or die", could set hard but fair boundaries/consequences and pay out "jackpot" style upon success large or small. It's been over a year, and she has become a different dog, I can't trust her around other people so she's muzzle trained.
I have to challenge you on " humans domestication of cats", I'm no cat person, unless you mean big cats, Lions but the best explanation of how cats became domesticated is because cats are using humans, they figured out many years ago that it's easier to obtain food (sources) via hanging around (and about) humans. Cats call the shots , how much interaction goes on between us and them. They're fine going away to where ever it is they go when they leave for a few days, then come back and then cycle again and again. Wouldn't it seem crazy if dogs acted like cats, leaving home, going some where then come back home after a few days. But no, dogs want to be with us every second of every day. I love that. It's a beautiful thing to have this other species seemingly smitten over us.
Fantastic new episode, love to see more creativity in these series! Please keep sharing the wonderful knowledge and experience of Share-Sapolsky family for the whole world :)
Thank you very much, both Rachel and Robert. Very strong episode, super interesting 🤘. Sad a little too, that dogs obviously paid cognitive price for co-living with humans as all animals do. Some guys say "all animals are under stringent selection pressure to be as stupid as they can get away with 🤷♂
We have one dog at the moment, a Wheaten Terrier. If we get another we have been thinking Havanese. Something little and nice and not a terrier. (Had a Jack Russell and a Scottie years ago)
LOVE this channel and this subject in particular! I can't recommend Rick Mcintyre's Wolf books enough. If you like Robert's work, i suspect you'll enjoy them too. The first one "the rise of Wolf 8"is basically his field notes from when wolves were first reintroduced to Yellowstone. It's important to note that adult wolves do frequently play especially with pups, but when they're friends, they'll even play with each other as adults. They're all different of course, but very dog-like in more ways than I realized. I have a very "wolfy" dog though. These books use a lot of the language that the alt-right has commandeered, but the lessons in the books are SO antithetical to what that rabble claim. I'm calling these books "red pill pockets" and trying to get my conservative family to read them.
one cat lover here:) I also heard that cats tend to be kinda colder not only because they were feeding themselves during the earlier period of their domestication but also because they are single predators, they are not group animals in principle. In the wild, they live alone and hunt alone. They do not usually rely so much on their relatives. That may explain why they don't tend to rely on anybody whatsoever evolutionarily. Whereas wolves (dogs) and primates (us) are both group animals and it's more natural for us to build social bonding. All our intelligence can only be measured through communication measures, and we measure the dog's intelligence the same way - how good they understand us, how effective they are at manipulation and so on. On the other hand, maybe the cat's intelligence is completely different, and not about communicating at all, and we can't even comprehend it.. But I should say they grew damn good at manipulating some of us as well :D at least those of them who don't wanna hunt anymore :D
What's even more amazing is that we've begun to feel somewhat similarly towards all sorts of animals. It likely has a lot to do with our current lifestyle of living in cities safe from the wilderness and disconnected from how our food is made ofc but if I understand this correctly it's possible this enviornment change "hijacks" our dog and infant bonding system and we get the meme "if not friend why friend shaped"
interesting that Safi was sitting, sleeping today rather than being active like previous videos. Wonder if it was the fact that they were the discussion??
I had an idea once listening to a psychologist speak on bottom up and top down thinking. Dogs are bottom up thinkers and become focus on us. They can read our physical cues and want to. Chimps are top down and have enough of their own inner world not to be as taken by humans. Cause they can care what we think and do, but sometimes seem preoccupied with their own inner world. The psychologist was only talking about human development, I expanded for the idea above What do ya think?
I would love to know what Prof. Sapolsky’s spiritual views are! I gather he would ascribe to a Spinozan view of spirituality. Biologist usually have the most interesting spiritual lives, and also the most private. I’m not asking about Sapolsky’s religion or religious views mind you. I’d just like to know how a great mind like his thinks in terms of one or the questions that makes us human.
Scientists recently found that fish can produce milk , I know is not your field, but we shouldn't find stuff like that . would be awesome if you make a video explain it please
Just as the domestication of dogs shrank their brains and made the 'neotinized' version we all know and love today. Humans as well are also being domesticated by civilization and instead of brains being bigger, they will become smaller, or at least more jumbled and less useful than the wild humans who conquered the planet.
perhaps you should disclose how affluent you are. perhaps your youtube channel is a side-line which will develope into future revenue. perhaps my parents were not so prolific but they were amazing in their own way.
My dad died last night.
Some of my favorite moments with my dad began by taking our dogs out when i visited. They would end 5 hours later with us sitting on the porch discussing anything from psychology to car maitance to musical interests to theoretical physics or philosophical frameworks to a sitcom we enjoyed.
I do (and, surely, will continue to) miss these moments.
I felt some sort of comfort while watching this video. I follow the channel, and i watch every week, but today I played the video. I couldn't hear the data. What I did see, though, is a dad, a daughter, and their pups sharing a moment together and taking the time and energy to connect.
Thanks.
Sorry for your loss. Never easy. Take solace in the little things -
It sounds like you two had a strong bond. It's hard to lose a family member - doubly so when they're also your friend. My condolences to you and your family ❤
Very sorry for your loss. May they Rest in peace
Beautiful memories xoxo
I miss my Dad too. He was also a great talker and LOVED our dogs (we had many labradors over the course of my life). I remember him getting home from work and getting down on the floor and stretching his back while the dogs happily copied him and followed him around waiting for the treat they knew was coming from him. My parents used to get into arguments about how my dad would let them get on the bed while my mom would be disgusted (because she knew where their feet were recently) 😂 When our last dog was dying after a long and happy life, my dad just held her in his arms as they lay together on the floor like they always did. He was devastated. More so than for some of his friends who had passed.
When he had a heart attack and was in and out of consciousness, I could not get back home to be with my family and be by his side. We live on opposite coasts. It was such an unreal experience and it still seems like maybe it didn’t happen, maybe we haven’t spoken on the phone for a long time….it’s just a longer pause than normal.
In a way, perhaps that’s actually how it is after all. I do see him in my dreams and that feeling needs its own name because it is real to my mind, I feel it in my body upon waking. I miss him terribly bc he was someone who loved me unconditionally and even better, understood and liked me. So often I think of things that I need to call and share only to remember that he’s gone silent. It’s only been three years and it’s forever and also no time at all.
My dogs definitely have helped me move through the grief and the disorientation of great loss. For all of their infant-like behaviors and needs, they are also extremely wise and supportive in ways that call into question our so called superiority.
I am sorry for your pain and the loss of your father, know that it will get less difficult. ❤
this channel is such a hidden gem
Totally
It’s my favorite channel now. I enjoy how authentic and not overengineered it is. Thank you, Professor Sapolsky, for sharing your vast knowledge with us; you have been my hero since university. And thank you to his daughter for driving this!!! Looking forward to the next episode.
Dr Sapolski's explanations are the best
As someone who wanted a dog but was adopted by a cat, I'd be quite interested in a video similar to this one but focused on cats! I've come to have an appreciation for the quirks of cats. For example, mine is currently sitting upright in a chair, surveying the neighbourhood and occasionally looking up at the sky.
I love how these pods keep getting longer!
All love from Iran 🇮🇷 ❤️
We love you too!
I met a family who had the most beautiful child who had William’s Syndrome. That interaction was so profound that I think of that beautiful child often. I think we as a species should strive to be more like her. PS she was lucky in that she had been born into a huge loving family that was very protective of her. Before meeting her I was basically vetted and educated about William’s Syndrome. Smart loving family.
Thank you for sharing that.
My aunt as well as my future cousin in law have Williams, and they’re the best.
My dogs really were my best friends.
"We give them the time we can spare and the love we can spare and in return DOGS gives us their all, best deal that mankind ever made" don't know who said it but it's best summery of our relationship i know of.
more dogs and cats talk please!
I look forward to your special conversations every time. I have listened to Prof Sapolsky's lectures multiple times as well as all his interviews, including the ones dealing with his latest book, Determined. I have read and re-read all his books and feel so enriched by the knowledge that he has shared with us. I am now retired after a professional life in accountancy and law; I just wish I could have heard of Neurobiology when I first went to university, so many decades ago. Well, in my retirement, I have found my enriching and most enjoyable topic, thanks so very much to the time, some 3-4 years ago, that I discovered a truly great person, Prof Sapolsky, and of course following on, meeting the whole family. STUPENDOUS!
Same!!!
"How to Tame a Fox: and Build a Dog" by LyudmilaTrut
Great read.
As a dog person with dogs, I found this to be an extremely educational lecture about this wonderful relationship. Thank you so very much!
As a dog and cat fan I found this talk extra awesome! The histories behind both human and our domesticated cohabiters was intriguing and it amazes me that the transformation from wild to domestic happened relatively quickly from an evolutionary point of view. Love the talks - keep em' comin'!
Well done!!! Loved every minute!!!❤
Thanks for another great episode. The new nickname for my dog is Baby Wolf. 🐺
Thank you again for making me a bit smarter.
So awesome! Best channel on the internet ever! Thank you!
I am a fan of Dr Sapolsky and am really enjoying the father-offspring videos. I am also a Dog nerd and found this chat particularly interesting. However, I was left with a burning question. Dr Sapolsky concludes, in this video, that Dogs are "...dependent on us because they've developed enzymes that make it impossible to digest what wolves would do at this point. They would die from protein toxicity." Is Dr Sapolsky suggesting that Dogs fed prey model raw are going to die of protein toxicity? Also, exactly which digestive enzyme makes it impossible for a Dog to digest what wolves would (I assume raw, whole prey?). Thank you so much for answering my question
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Waking up to a new episode! You made my day, thank you. Our poodle uses communication buttons. It's amazing to see how the dogs evolved to communicate with us so much so they are willing to learn new ways of communication as speaking buttons. I know it isn't a language but it sure is a communication. Greetings from the Netherlands and keep making those amazing podcasts ❤
Your poodle sounds awesome. I love poodles!
Awesome!!! my two favorites things together learning about dogs and listening to the Dr Robert Sapolsky ❤❤❤
Thank you for sharing the Sapolsky and the beard for science. 🙏
Yeah, I know, that’s a weird one. 😅
The host is Robert’s daughter? Very cool
This is just super interesting! Thank you so much! Love your channel ❤
Yaaay my favorite! Love you guys.
Always awesome to see a new video from you guys!!
At least you guys prove that There is a Dog after all
This episode is fabulous and so interesting!! ❤ I’m watching my sister’s Pomeranian for 2 months and I’m on oxytocin overload! He is SO CUTE, loving and attentive! 🥰 He looks like cross between a miniature lion and a fox kit. 🤎🖤🤎🐕 (she may not get him back😆)
Looking at my puppers in a whole new way! Great video! 💖🐶🐶💖
Wow! What an interesting channel . Thank you for making this freely available to all
Thank you so much for this series.
Favorite channel on TH-cam
I Love it. The note about dogs v. cats is so obvious - once you know it :) I'm very grateful for your sharing a part of your world and wisdom.
So fascinating!!! Thank you both for sharing this knowledge with us. It really opened my mind in so many ways.
The Mirror Test in/of the Looking Glass Universe, nicely presented as our relationship with dog-gone determination.
Relevance made visible as universal domestication.
Great demonstration of co incidence. Thank you for this focused attention on sociability.
No, Thank you for yet another interesting episode , Keep On Truckin'
I have Maxine a purebred Belgian Malinois, and Fritz a German wire-shorthaired pointer mix, the Malinois is Velcro'd to my side, Fritz is affectionate on his terms, both have extreme prey/food/ball drive and highly trainable.
Both are shelter dogs, Maxine would have run out of viable options if I hadn't adopted her. She hadn't been socialized to environmental stimuli nor humans as a puppy, at 14 months she was completely untrained. She had been returned twice to the shelter for nipping and a dog fight by two separate families.
I knew she had issues, although sadly she was far worse than imagined, but I love a challenge. She needed a patient handler who would be all in "ride or die", could set hard but fair boundaries/consequences and pay out "jackpot" style upon success large or small. It's been over a year, and she has become a different dog, I can't trust her around other people so she's muzzle trained.
Fascinating information, thank you.
People with Williams syndrome sound awesome
Excellent episode! I love this channel so much!
My wife and I have a French Bulldog. My understanding is they were bred to be companion dogs. So those traits are even more noticeable.
So interesting
I have to challenge you on " humans domestication of cats", I'm no cat person, unless you mean big cats, Lions but the best explanation of how cats became domesticated is because cats are using humans, they figured out many years ago that it's easier to obtain food (sources) via hanging around (and about) humans. Cats call the shots , how much interaction goes on between us and them. They're fine going away to where ever it is they go when they leave for a few days, then come back and then cycle again and again.
Wouldn't it seem crazy if dogs acted like cats, leaving home, going some where then come back home after a few days. But no, dogs want to be with us every second of every day. I love that. It's a beautiful thing to have this other species seemingly smitten over us.
I love dogs more than people. Am I more evolved?
Deligthful
... truly fascinating stuff! I'm spellbound, by, what you both have to say ... and the way you say it!!! Thank you for this 💡💡💡
So special… thank you
Fantastic new episode, love to see more creativity in these series! Please keep sharing the wonderful knowledge and experience of Share-Sapolsky family for the whole world :)
Im a dog lover!!! Have a lil chiwawa pame:) this is the beat episode ever!! Thank you for this!! Love your dogs.. kiss em for me!!:)
Thank you! 🐕🦮
Very interesting the view of double directionated domestication.
Thank you very much, both Rachel and Robert. Very strong episode, super interesting 🤘. Sad a little too, that dogs obviously paid cognitive price for co-living with humans as all animals do. Some guys say "all animals are under stringent selection pressure to be as stupid as they can get away with 🤷♂
We have one dog at the moment, a Wheaten Terrier. If we get another we have been thinking Havanese. Something little and nice and not a terrier. (Had a Jack Russell and a Scottie years ago)
Thank you so much for such insight!
LOVE this channel and this subject in particular!
I can't recommend Rick Mcintyre's Wolf books enough. If you like Robert's work, i suspect you'll enjoy them too. The first one "the rise of Wolf 8"is basically his field notes from when wolves were first reintroduced to Yellowstone. It's important to note that adult wolves do frequently play especially with pups, but when they're friends, they'll even play with each other as adults. They're all different of course, but very dog-like in more ways than I realized. I have a very "wolfy" dog though.
These books use a lot of the language that the alt-right has commandeered, but the lessons in the books are SO antithetical to what that rabble claim. I'm calling these books "red pill pockets" and trying to get my conservative family to read them.
one cat lover here:) I also heard that cats tend to be kinda colder not only because they were feeding themselves during the earlier period of their domestication but also because they are single predators, they are not group animals in principle. In the wild, they live alone and hunt alone. They do not usually rely so much on their relatives. That may explain why they don't tend to rely on anybody whatsoever evolutionarily. Whereas wolves (dogs) and primates (us) are both group animals and it's more natural for us to build social bonding. All our intelligence can only be measured through communication measures, and we measure the dog's intelligence the same way - how good they understand us, how effective they are at manipulation and so on. On the other hand, maybe the cat's intelligence is completely different, and not about communicating at all, and we can't even comprehend it..
But I should say they grew damn good at manipulating some of us as well :D at least those of them who don't wanna hunt anymore :D
What's even more amazing is that we've begun to feel somewhat similarly towards all sorts of animals. It likely has a lot to do with our current lifestyle of living in cities safe from the wilderness and disconnected from how our food is made ofc but if I understand this correctly it's possible this enviornment change "hijacks" our dog and infant bonding system and we get the meme "if not friend why friend shaped"
Oh No! I just learned Hypnovenator today ("Sleep Hunter". A fantastic animal name).
Good morning sir sapolsky
Shahid from India
Can we please get an episode on catssss???
Dr. Sapolsky! Is your lab at stanford still taking on phd students? sincerely, a very interested biochemist
interesting that Safi was sitting, sleeping today rather than being active like previous videos. Wonder if it was the fact that they were the discussion??
Boom Cher, sorry this is late.! Kat I’m going for a different goal. Well done!💔
Suggestion to talk about "mucuna pruriens"
They are obviously not talking about Chihuahuas😂
I love theese videoes, so interesting.
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Why does Sapolsky always wear a low quality microphone? I want his high quality recording voice.
Fun fact: dog spelled backwards is racecar
How does the Malmut deal with protein toxicity? Is it ameliorated by consuming fat?
*malmute?
I had an idea once listening to a psychologist speak on bottom up and top down thinking. Dogs are bottom up thinkers and become focus on us. They can read our physical cues and want to. Chimps are top down and have enough of their own inner world not to be as taken by humans. Cause they can care what we think and do, but sometimes seem preoccupied with their own inner world.
The psychologist was only talking about human development, I expanded for the idea above
What do ya think?
I would love to know what Prof. Sapolsky’s spiritual views are! I gather he would ascribe to a Spinozan view of spirituality. Biologist usually have the most interesting spiritual lives, and also the most private. I’m not asking about Sapolsky’s religion or religious views mind you. I’d just like to know how a great mind like his thinks in terms of one or the questions that makes us human.
Scientists recently found that fish can produce milk , I know is not your field, but we shouldn't find stuff like that .
would be awesome if you make a video explain it please
😂
Which species?
@OmniversalInsect it is " discus fish "
Very interesting, it seems like its time for dogs to evolve the gene for chocolate.
Just as the domestication of dogs shrank their brains and made the 'neotinized' version we all know and love today. Humans as well are also being domesticated by civilization and instead of brains being bigger, they will become smaller, or at least more jumbled and less useful than the wild humans who conquered the planet.
Did she do her hair on purpose as a cocker spaniel for this episode ?
Now this begs for one on cats and their biowarfare taxoplasma insider attack!
Poor Robert looks like he might have had enough of being in front of the camera
Parent-offspring. not Father-offspring.
perhaps you should disclose how affluent you are. perhaps your youtube channel is a side-line which will develope into future revenue. perhaps my parents were not so prolific but they were amazing in their own way.