You can see Robin is struggling so hard. She knows she's going to break Steve's heart, but she has to tell him the truth because she really loves him and knows he deserves honesty. And Steve handles the situation sooo brilliantly. This scene is so touching, sad and relieving at the same time. Masterpiece.
I love how instead of being digusted or upset he was rejected, he just went, "Really? You can do better than her." At least to me it shoes how much they mean to each other
@@315._k7 today yeah, but this show isn’t set in modern day. This season is set in 1985, and it would be totally normal and accepted to ghost her and never talk to her again cause she’s gay. Do I think it’s right? No, of course not, but that’s the truth.
It just goes to show how much fighting monsters and becoming the official babysitter to a group of preteens can really alter your whole personality for the better!💖😊
@@stinkyassclown4602 What's funnier is that Steve's development was an accident, since both he and Dustin's plotlines were going nowhere, they just made them cross paths with each other.
Ahal1 lol I started to watch the whole show again after the last episode and omg, it’s crazy how well this show represents character development. I love how at they’re selfish teens who then go through traumatic experiences that in, different ways, teach them that they need to be better people. It’s such and awesome show 🤣
the absolute hurt you can see in robin's eyes when she realizes that steve likes her is so heartbreaking. you can tell that their friendship means so much to her and she's terrified that by rejecting him she'll ruin it. that's what makes this show and the characters so relatable and loved, because i think we all go through that at some point.
yes but the character gets no wins ... from the ladiesmagnet degraded to a joke in costume... i would have wished hed get a girl.. or at least more respect from his surroundings. This scene was like one more punch in the stomach of this already unlucky chracter. Hes the most punished character in this series by far,, his downfall undeserved.
@@bigboulder I don't think this was any kind of gut punch for Steve. His crush is unrequited, sure, but he obtains a best friend which is in many ways what he needed as a character. It also directly shows character growth compared to how he was dealing with rejection in the first season. I would expect him to fully transition into a father/big brother figure in the fourth season. I suspect there might be a romantic subplot for him as well
@@jeebe393 a matter of opinion..but i would guess that most people would prefer to have a partner in life..and for steves character..thats definately his goal.
The part where Steve is describing his crush and Robin immediately knew he was talking about her and the way she got frustrated and sad knowing that she'll break his heart is such an emotional scene 🥺
I thinks she's also afraid for herself that he'll end their friendship and tell other people what she said. I was around in the 80s and let me tell you that coming out as a Lesbian in a small Midwestern city would have been a tough journey.
its so amazing because you can tell she loves him and is taken aback by how sweetly he talks about her, but knowing she will never love him romantically
I love how they framed this scene, especially the first half. They're directly facing each other but the toilet partition provides a divide that lets them both express their emotions perfectly: Steve's rising sincerity and Robin's crestfallen despair. It was so bold and unexpected to *NOT* have them end up together (what a swerve) but geez do I love how it developed both of their character's even more.
@@lottegeldof4987 It's about both of them and Steve is the character we've know longer so his development as a person in this moment is just as surprising as Robin's bravery for opening up and making herself vulnerable during such an unsupportive decade. STOP TELLING PEOPLE HOW TO FEEL. Freaking gatekeepers, I swear...
I love how when Steve realises Robin is gay, he just carries on talking with her instead of being upset she doesn't like him back. Instead of teasing her being gay, he teases her choice in women. And this is the same guy who made a homophobic slur in S1
Agent Z46 yes, yes it would, you can’t expect them to naturally grow feelings for you and then getting mad at them is probably the douchiest (wow what a word) thing to do
the way robin just desperately looks to steve with water in her eyes after he says “but she’s a girl” is heartbreaking, but the soft “oh” he says after he realizes is so kind and understanding. him being supportive of her just is another clarification that steve harrington is an angel among men
I love how instead of Steve being like "WHAT, YOU'RE GAY?!?" he's just like "Oh Robin, we have to talk about your taste in women. Cuz you can do so much better."
I know. Its almost like in that moment she wanted to be attracted to him so that she wouldn't lose him. Because she does love him...just not romantically. That actress is amazing. Her face conveys all those emotions.
Beautifully written and acted scene. Maya Hawke is sensational, and Joe Keery, with a mix of tenderness and humour, perfectly portrays just how far Steve's character has come since the first season.
@HammerBann If you do not understand that obsession is not a singular synonym for attraction then you have no business critiquing anyone else's writing. The writers successfully misdirected you and you're blaming them for bad writing. That's it. End of story.
Robin: *Coming out as a lesbian* Steve: Cool Robin: Theres no problems? Steve: Yeah, your taste. I love Steves character. Homophobia was so bad in the '80s and Steve just shrugs it off and has no problem.
especially when you remember how Steve was in S1, his character development of going from homophobic prom king pretty boy dating the most perfect girl in school to bisexual mum of six with a crush on the metalhead outcast and whose best friend is a lesbian is one of the best in TV history
Ook: *coming out as a homersexual in 8000 B.C.E* gnak: *reaches for sharpened bone club* Ook: **grunt** problem? gnak: *THWACK* Ook: *silence* i HATE gnak. Homophobia was SUCH a big problem in the 8000 BCEs... homophobia is such an ABNORMAL, and backward practice... which means everyone pre-20th century was evil, stupid, and backward. YEP, that's right. US who have only lived for a century can declare that everyone before us (ho*mohpboic**xs) are evil backward and stupid. Cockroaches are the 2nd lowest lifeforms. And you won't see them jumping onto a fellow sex of their's. That tells you ALL you need to know...
1:32 Maya Hawke’s performance is so good. You can tell she appreciates the fact that Steve likes her, but it hurts her too because she realizes she has to tell him she’s gay.
@@mugi8833 Gay is also used as an umbrella term for anyone liking the same gender as themselves. So, yes, it applies to girls as well. I hope this could clear up the confusion :)
Steve had the best character development of all time. From douchebag popular jock who only cared about himself to being a single mum who accepts people for who they are.
Robin's emotions are joyfully explored in this scene, but it's worth saying that this is also a turning point for Steve. I think he really shows his maturity in this moment. Instead of being distraught by Robin's rejection, he digests it and lets it wash right over him. Their friendship outweighs any fleeting romantic disappointment. He embraces it for what it is, accepting and adapting like an emotionally intelligent adult. It's like he's really, finally left high school behind. Being chased by psychic monsters and secret agents surely gives you perspective on what's important in life.
Preach! And what makes it even better is that the reason why he forced himself to get over the rejection so fast is because he could see in how much distress she was - scared that only he will stop being friends with her, but also that he could go into some sort of homophobic freakout and start insulting her, maybe even attack her, or that he could tell everyone and turn her into a total social outcast for the whole Hawkins. Sad as it is, this is a small american town in the 80's after all.
Elena S M CANONICO I think the same thing might happen to Will, it was hinted he was gay earlier in the season by Mike saying “It’s not my fault you don’t like girls.” But I’m not sure about thsi
I love how they didn’t make her being gay her whole personality, and just part of it. They wrote it so well. I also love how they didn’t use the stereotype of the boy-girl friendship turning into romance
Stranger Things is really good at breaking stereotypes and that's one of the reasons I like it. Like back in season 1 I thought Hopper was going to be one of those adults who doesn't listen to the kids at all and thinks they are just making up all the stuff so that the kids have no choice but to solve the mystery by themselves. Instead Hopper became one of the main characters who also tries his hardest to solve the mystery and that was definitely a good thing.
Stereotype? Relationships can only start one of two ways: boy and girl meet and immediately start dating or they become friends and then start dating. I think you mean rom-com trope.
the writers actually did plan to make robin and steve a couple, but the actors didn't feel it so they workshopped this scene and the producers ended up liking it so much that none of it was cut
Honestly as I was watching this the first time, I thought that this was going to be a love confession scene and I was just like... :/ this feels so cheesey and cliché?? But okay ig, they wouldn't be an awful pair. Soooo happy they did this instead, also was lowkey hilarious watching my parents get all uncomfortable bc of unexpected gay.
as a lesbian, i relate to Robin so much in this scene. i could just feel the pain in her chest, knowing that she can’t possibly feel the same way and wishing they could’ve just stayed best friends. i wish i had a friend like steve, because most of the times this happened to me, they didn’t take it nearly as well. especially since steve was born in the 60’s, it’s amazing how kind and accepting he is in comparison to people i know who were born in the 2000’s
people can so beautiful and lovable until they think theres something wrong w you and they start acting insane to the point you don't know them anymore
@@rhysstanley7387 I think it depends on the person Like, Steve seems like the kind of person who would really accept her and love her anyway, or at least, Steve from season 3-4 and maybe 2 (I don't think the Steve from season 1 would be this open and great) It's a really rare thing probably between people of that eras, but he seems the exception Like now there are people who are like this, so more open and who don't find anything wrong with it and people who find it a taboo or something terrible (I hope there aren't grammar mistakes here, I'm not a native speaker so sorry in advance in case I made any)
@City Beautiful Adventures yeah that thing wasn't that great of him... Even though it was probably his way to say "stay safe" A very bad way to say "stay safe" but still a way Luckily they didn't kill him before... The new Steve is one of the best characters ever and I'm really happy they made him grow up like that
I love her performance in this, especially the end. Yeah, she's kidding around, but underneath she's so relieved that nothing has changed between her and her friend.
Her laughter to his jokes felt to me, on top of him being funny, like a catharsis for her, like she was so relieved she was accepted and they could still be besties, and possibly even relief beyond just Steve, as he may well be the first person in her life who knows. So the moment is doubly cathartic because for the first time in her life, she's unburdened from this very personal secret that probably made her feel afraid and lonely and self conscious. This scene is everything, and to me, the best scene of the season, and a definite contender for best of the entire series. I'm so excited for Maya Hawke. The girl's gonna be huge - famous parents or not. Terrific performance.
@@jonathanguito1168 I've never even thought of the possibilty that he might be the first person she came out to, interesting thought, that this moment affects not just their friendship but her life from that moment forward. She expresses so much with a few looks and laughs. I'm also excited to see her in more things from now on.
That soft "Steve" after he says Tammy Thompson's a girl has me in shambles. She was so terrified of what he would say, that he would reject her and she'd lose her friend, ugh. Great acting.
Steve’s reaction seems pretty spot on for the time this takes place. You can kinda tell that he either has never met a gay person or perhaps he at one point bullied one back when he was a douche. His reaction is a mix of surprise, confusion but also acceptance
Not only that, but he makes fun of who she crushes on and not her, It's like, he's still the Steve we love, he's just come further in a good way without changing completely
it also shows that when someone makes the argument of "Well, he was just a product of his time" to explain away homophobia or other bad stuff, it's just utter bullshit. Steve, who started out as a vapid '80s douchebag, nonetheless has a good heart, which is something that transcends the societal hang-ups of any era.
@@lauristonbrewster9097 I can't be more disagree with you, you have described Steve perfectly! And I wanna give all my respect to Duffer brothers for all the work they put in stranger things! It's really a good thing for people who watch the show! :)
I think people are forgetting just how bad homophobia was in the '80s, so imagine how terrifying this must be for Robin and how kind Steve is for understanding.
@@jltplease And...? Movies obviously don't reflect the views of all human beings. It's entirely possible and not "2020 views" that there were accepting people in the 80s
To me the best part isn’t even that she came out and he’s cool with it. It’s that he poured his heart out to her, basically confessing his love, and then she revealed that not only does she not feel that way about him; she never will - never CAN, even - and he not only accepts it; he immediately starts joking with her like he didn’t just get his heart stomped on (again).
Media when male and female are hinting to romantic interest: haha no they're platonic, in fact the woman is gay and the guy is a soy drinking beta male so he continues his friendship with her Media when male and male have a platonic friendship: they are GAY and will express it in a GAY shy timid way. And then we will introduce homophobic characters that end up becoming GAY and joining a monkeypox orgy with the two GAY men Tldr; Hollywood sexualizes male platonic friendships and platonizes male-female relations.
Sort of reminds me of Degrassi when Marco comes out to Spinner and assures him he won't hit on him because he doesn't find Spinner attractive anyway. Spinner, despite being straight, is hugely offended by that comment. "Whaddaya mean I'm not attractive?!"
The way Robin cares about having to reject Steve romantically, the way Steve reacts when he is rejected but quickly realises Robin is vulnerable and and puts her at ease with a joke about her crush...this whole scene is prime. Two people becoming genuine best friends once they fully understood one another. Also, Steve's heart wasn't broken, it was not love, love is deeper and takes longer than a summer in an ice cream place. Steve really liked her and was romantically rejected. It can still hurt but if you've emotional intelligence you can process that pretty quickly. Steve processed that he wasn't rejected as a person, as a friend, just as a romantic partner. It's that emotional intelligence that allowed Steve to instantly realise the person he cares about is isolated and vulnerable by her admission to him and quickly put her at ease. She was also scared of losing him as a friend. The way the chords of the music slowly builds again the second he jokes about Tammy mirrors Robin's emotional state as it too slowly builds up again once she realises Steve accepted her for who she is. It's such a powerful scene.
Everything about this scene is just so authentic and likable, Season 3 was all great but Robin and Steve were absolutely the standout. Joe Keery and Maya Hawke should be in everything.
Indeed, I'm glad that they didn't have Steve and Robin hook up, as you might expect in stories like this. Instead, they are still able to maintain a strong friendship after their adventures. Yay for subverting expectations!😀 #scooptroopforlife
@@trinaq nah this was a blow to Steve. Damn a girl who was baiting you the whole time saying things like I wish you knew me and making him think she liked him was messed up. I think in reality guys would feel disappointed. I feel bad for Steve as once again shot down
I feel like people give a lot of credit to Steve for not being homophobic and obviously he deserves that credit, but he also deserves credit because he literally fell in love with Robin and could have been mad or sad for a longer time, or like telling her "okay I need some time to get over you" but he took the hit so well and never got angry at her for not being attracted to him or something idk I felt like somebody should mention it
I remember in season one, the time where he was at first to be thought of the worst character, he insulted Jonathan by saying he mistook him for a queer. Now he completely accepts his best friend as gay. Goddamn this is another reason to love Steve’s character development
You're not wrong though I think it's the best type of letdown. It's one thing for a crush to say they just aren't into men but it hits harder when they are into men but not into YOU. That being said it's still a beautiful scene and Itotally agree with your premise.
He was like that with Nancy too in a way, when he fully realized and accepted that she doesn't love him anymore. That little scene in s2 after Nancy and Jonathan slept together during their trip and when they met up with Steve again, he knew that things had changed. And instead of making Nancy feel bad about her kinda cheating on him (they hadn't officially broken up) he reassures her that "it's okay". And he looks and sounds like he absolutely means it. I respect that a lot about him, that he takes rejection in such an accepting way, even though it must hurt him, but he still cares about this person (Nancy and Robin) so much and does everything to make them not feel bad about it. I just really love Steve.
Yeah not just not being homophobic but also not having that toxic attitude after being rejected a lot of women are scared of. But I get it he wasn't interested in her until they were friends, he didn't go in to that relationship with that agenda of becoming her boyfriend and getting "friend zoned."
I love the last part where they’re laughing and the music just turns up because they are _friends._ I love this scene because at the end of the day they’re still friends.
1:42 That look breaks my heart. It’s not the look of “Oh man, I need to reject this guy” it’s the look of “Oh no, I need to tell this guy something that might make him never like or respect me again.”
In a series full of horror this was one of the most beautiful scenes. Authentic, believable, brilliantly acted. This made me cry for all the right reasons.
@Derek Fisher It's also not natural to wear glasses, dye hair, use the restroom anywhere but the ground, eat processed foods, get divorced, or even wear braces. But I guess we just pick and choose huh?
The fact that Robin knows Steve's talking about her when he starts describing his 'crush' and starts crying because she could never love Steve the way he did and doesnt want to break his heart And the way she's relieved when Steve starts making fun of her choice in women Maya Hawke is such a great actor
I feel like if S4 is hypocritically 10 episodes, we're gonna see a bunch of scenes of them hanging out, watching movies, and obviously trying to score at the video store
Just goes to show that good-hearted people can be corrupted by their asshole friends. That was pretty much a significant reason why he was a jerk in S1 - his friend group was a bunch of asshats, and that's how he was too. Thankfully, he learned.
As a straight dude with a really close female friend who's gay, Robin and Steve's friendship was the best part of season 3 and super relatable. Edit: This has aged kinda poorly because I've realised I'm bi but I still platonically love my friend so fuck it.
JP O'Brien i know Man! I met my best friend kinda like this and I could relate as well! She is amazing and I love her! Just like Steve loves robin! Can’t wait for season 4
@@peter7371 "kinda like this" so you and your best friend were chased by a russians in the mall who ran a super secret facility to open a portal to an alternative reality :p cool
@@FiercyRabbit1 he said "met kinda like this", steve and robin met at the ice cream shop they work at, he means he probably met her at work (i know steve and robin knew of each other before they worked there but they didn't know each other)
Mine too, the look on his face as he tries to process the information, and when he states "But Tammy Thompson's a girl", sees Robin's "Well, duh" expression, before he finally grasps what she's implying, really adds a moment of well needed hilarity to an otherwise serious situation!😅
yes you can tell she was scared of his reaction, but then she was really happy he accepted her for who she is. Steve is the best character and he deserves happiness
And how risky it is for her to come out to the former school's resident douchebag in the 80s. Huge leap of faith, he could have ruined her life the next day.
We need a Robin & Steve spin off that's just a workplace buddy comedy where they get fired at the end of every season and have to start a completely different job at the start of the next one.
I felt bad for the both of them, but they handled it well. Robin knowing she was the attention of Steve’s affection then having to let him know how she truly felt and Steve not having the best of luck with girls the entire season and when he finally thinks he found the one then it’s revealed that she likes girls and he has no chance, but in the heat of the moment they joke as friends. It’s a truly emotional scene in my eyes for the both of them.
RIGHT?!?!??? I’ve never seen that so realistically portrayed on screen. Infact, I don’t think I’ve ever seen it PERIOD! But I’ve been through it so many times. So many guys who are about to ask me out and I just have that “oh fuck” moment like “I’m about to crush this poor boy’s soul”
@@shaybrown7355 Yeah, I completely agree. There is sometimes where we just have to accept things and people for how they are, no matter how hard we fall for them. I’m excited to see how they continue Steve and Robin’s storyline, I just hope that both of them are able to get their happy endings for season 4. Who truly knows, maybe Robin and Steve can help each other get girlfriends? I’d love to see that honestly, or Steve coming to grapple with his feelings for Robin, but still being there for her as a best friend even though he feels more attached to her than just as a friend.
That's how you reveal a gay character, by waiting till the show is released. Not going on the internet saying, "say hello to the first bona-fide openly gay character of the show!". Stranger Things did it right.
@Matheus E You sure? I didn’t sense any real implications of her being a lesbian at all. Not like she should’ve worn a sign on her chest exclaiming her sexuality, but I honestly feel like the character would’ve remained relatively the same if she was straight. It’s not a bad thing that they added an admittedly “gay” character to the roster, but I feel that they should’ve done it in a way that would actually impact/explain the decisions she makes over the course of the show, not just so that she could turn down Steve. Hopefully in the fourth season they’ll actually build upon her sexuality and properly implement it into her character, but I just feel like the way the “big reveal” happened could’ve been better.
@@swissidol8403 The way i see it, it changed her and the relationship she had with Steve. For example, it shows the struggle she had with her sexuality possibly affecting her friendship with Steve, because he could judge her or being so heartbroken. Sure, she didnt need to be gay for the Steve rejection thing to work, but i think it was a clever way to do it. I mean, Nancy already dumped Steve cause he wasnt her type, if the same happened to Robin, it would be kinda boring. I also think it was meaningful to her, because it adds to her personality. The whole season i thought she liked to tease and mock Steve in a way of drawing his attention to her, kinda like "notice me" way. So it works like a semi plot twist, if you will. And yeah, it wasnt explored a lot, but it didnt needed to be. Shes a secondary character on a pretty large roster, and sexuality is far from the main focus of the plot.
Matheus E remember that a certain character being gay doesn’t _have_ to be meaningful or add depth. They can just be. It’s called existing. Yet so many ppl rage when it happens
@@sia6045 Actually, it does have. Anything you do with a character, must have a purpose to them or the story. If it does not have, you're just wasting the audience time with filler information.
@@yy0k1 that is why they are both great characters. despite his faults, its believable that a wonderful bond could grow between them. (top trivia, steve was suppose to die in season one to the demigorgon, but the show runners ended up keeping him because they love the actor and his style both on and off camera.)
yeah i had one of those with a gay man years ago. he and i still talk on occasion but it unfortunately did not end as well. things just became too awkward afterwards.
caleviwin i wasn’t implying that it’s his fault. the sadness is also from knowing you will have to hurt someone you love, by rejecting their deep, romantic feelings for you. no one wants to have to do that.
tiana i know the feeling she went through. it honestly picks away at your heart because you know your about to hurt such a pure person. it sucks. she portrayed it perfectly.
@@SassySiSi Oh so, because she's a 'good' person, she deserves someone now huh? Isn't that what you women say is the exact opposite of frustrated men who get overlooked by women? Funny how that works. Maybe, Tammy deserves to have her own preference or whatever y'all say to justify the superficial nature women have when ignoring men with character who aren't tall enough.
I’ll be honest, I haven’t watched a single episode of this show, but I find myself coming back to this video and watching it whenever I need to cry. As a lesbian, this is probably the most genuine coming out scene I have ever seen, it’s so goddamn beautiful
It may well be the best scene in the entire series. I just adore this scene. I may not be queer personally, but several of my friend are, so I can empathize. I've also just struggled with any feeling of acceptance, so I can identify on that level as well. May we ALL wind up with friends as accepting as Steve in this scene.
It's cuz he's trying to get rid of the tension. Obviously its really weird for him but since they are friends he doesnt really want to make things awkward since he ya know said he liked her. So he throws some jokes in the mix. Because he is amazing, poor steve :(
@@svenr.3803 I think it's a little bit of both. On the one hand, Steve has come such a long way from the arrogant, judgemental d-bag he was in season 1, so it is totally in character that he would be so accepting of Robin regardless of her sexuality or the fact that she didn't reciprocate his romantic feelings for her. On the other hand, he probably understands on some level that coming out to someone (especially back then in middle America) is / was a pretty big deal, and ripping on her choice of crush is his way of showing that nothing has changed between them. Without explicitly saying so Steve is showing Robin that he accepts and supports her, because that's what friends do.
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@@han9k. yeah, they've been building up to that very gently for a while. They aren't hiding it, but they're being subtle with it and expressing it through allusion and visual acting without outright stating anything. Also important for a character being played by an actor that has been underage for most of the series.
steve is probably one the most likable characters ever and it’s totally by accident since the writers initially planned to kill him off in the first season (so glad they didn’t)
Poor Steve gets his ass handed to him literally every season. Like even when he wins a fight and we are so proud of him, something bigger comes along and just. Fucks. Him. Up. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
as much as i love that idea i highly doubt steve would go that far out of his way to take the kids to see will and eleven and go hang out with jonathan lol and he isnt as close with will or eleven as he is with the other kids (see season 2) so i really dont see this happening
The way Robin goes when she realises he’s in love with her makes me so sad because she knows that she’ll have to hurt him and she doesn’t want to do that
Totally, the moment where Robin huddles into herself because she knows that Steve deserves to know the truth, but this being the mid 1980's, she's nervous as to what his reaction will be, and that he won't want to be associated with her anymore. Maya's acting really sells this scene!❤😀
Best outcome for both of them. Steve, needs another solid friend in his corner, a long with Dustin. And Robin needs a friend that accepts her for who she is. One of the best scenes of the series
Yep. I feel like the romance between them was kind of forced anyways, like Steve just wanted to get over Nancy so he desperately clung to the idea of someone new. Fortunately he found a real friend instead
I mean they were already friend anyway they just for closer Steve has enough friends and he's developed as a person I think he deserved someone this season. The way the made it look was kinda a dick move
Am I the only one who thought she was gay from the get go, like I didn't expect them to make it canon but she felt like such a lesbian(this feeling might also come from my crush on her)
A lot of people think Steve’s reaction is bad because he starts ‘criticising’ her choice in women. As someone who is queer, if I came out and I got this reaction, I would feel so much relief. Steve isn’t criticising her. He knows she’s terrified, and he wants to reassure her that it’s okay, and he starts making fun of Tammy to show her that she deserves way better. I just really love this scene because I hope my friends will have the same reaction when I come out, and I just feel comforted by this.
I think it’s less that he want to show her that “she deserves better” and more that friends often make fun of each other, but trust each other enough to know they’re joking, so Steve starts poking a little fun at her taste in women in a friendly sort of way to let her know that the friendship is still there and that she doesn’t need to worry.
@@nesaroth a lot of it has a much more conservative society than Western Europe. While you wouldn’t be killed or anything, I’d imagine being ostracized is a legitimate fear.
'oh hey you like boobs? Big deal. I like boobs.' These two are friends for life and amazing, and I utterly adore the pair. Theyv'e got eachother's backs. And coming out in the eighties is all kinds of terrifying. She trusted him, and was still terrified.
This is why I love Steve. His ''oh'' is not one of homophobia. It's an ''oh'' of ''I didn't know this at all, now I do, and I accept you.''' and then they just laugh about Robin's taste in women. We all need a best friend like Steve.
Well I mean it’s also an “oh” of disappointment for himself, I mean he genuinely had a crush on Robin, dare I say he was starting to fall in love with her and that’s him realizing that was never an option on the table for him. Even in season 4 Steve says he would date Robin if she wasn’t gay. But he realizes also that the way he feels about her shouldn’t have to ruin their friendship. He wants to be with her in some way and if it’s platonic then that’s okay too.
the accretion part happens later, but when you hear you don’t think about acception wtf? it’s normal, not superior, not less to him and frankly i don’t think he gives a shit and he was drugged but here it was “oh i fucked up didn’t know” doe to his selfishness of thinking he was liked by her
You can see how much Steve was taken aback by this. He really had to process the prejudice he’s grown up in, conflicting with the person he’d grown to know and care for, and when he finally settled on it, he turned it into a joke that showed he not only accepted her, but still wanted to be besties. This is one of the greatest coming out scenes in TV and I will not take arguments
the best part is I don't even think it's prejudice in the bigotry sense. it just literally had never occured to him that was a thing that could happen, was possible.
@@shoepixie Yeah, got to agree with you. This isn't prejudice, just dealing with the fact that someone he likes likes someone else. Plus, Tammy is a total dud...
@@isaacpianos5208 oh I'm not saying bigotry isn't the larger reason, but watching the scene I got the feeling Steve just literally had never come across a real gay in the wild before. He just didn't get it at first.
You can see her thinking ‘how do I tell him?’. Her thoughts are so out there and the acting is amazing. I love this scene because of the emotion you feel through the screen. It’s beautiful and heart wrenching.
This series is set in 1985. A time when being openly gay was extremely dangerous. And also a time when TV and movies started challenging the idea that being gay was somehow wrong. Robin represents that. A wonderful, quirky, lovely girl that is struggling in her loneliness about being gay, about wanting someone to love...about being accepted. And there is Steve, one of the biggest jerks from her school, turning out to be a damned good friend. And she is TERRIFIED that he will reject her friendship, that he may even attack her over being gay (which happened and still happens today)...she loves him AS A FRIEND...and she is scared. And Steve simply accepts it. It takes a few seconds to understand it. She may be the first gay person he ever met. And he just...accepts it. When so many would not have, Steve make a Muppet joke and accepts her. That is why in the end, Robin gets Steve a job. She will now defend that doofus until the day he dies. Steve protects the Party, but Robin protects Steve. Because he earned it.
Agreed. I can't think of any other single scene from any other Netflix original that instantly won me over this hard, and that's saying something. It's the perfect confluence of expert cinematography and blocking, character development, relationship development, dialogue, score, acting and pacing, not to mention being perfectly adept social commentary and progressive in its normalcy and rawness. It's essentially a three act short condensed into six minutes (and yet, rich and generous in its length in the context of a television episode, especially for a show like Stranger Things). Plus it's the moment people go from liking Robin to loving Maya Hawke, because at least in this show, this is her shining moment and she knocks it out of the park. Personally, I'd have loved for her to get an Emmy nod out of this, because it's a masterclass of understatement and expressionism. Everything about this is a masterclass. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if professors showcase this in television writing classes.
the actors actually wrote it themselves!! the producers originally were setting up robin and steve to be a couple but the actors weren't feeling it so they workshopped this and in the end it stayed in the final cut
Steve roasting his lesbian bestie's taste in women immediately after getting rejected is peak friendship, I would have loved if I was treated like that when I came out. He understands, supports, and is there for her.
Robin not being Steve’s next partner was so important. Steve has come such a long way. He lost his social status, Nancy, The one “friend” he had (that honestly only stuck around because of his status), that fight with Jonathan. And between becoming the babysitter of the group and season 3, he’s made a lot of progress. Him and Robin being friends was so important because he needed someone that was gonna be there for him unconditionally and also humble him. He didn’t need a new partner. He didn’t need a rebound girl. He didn’t need his social status back. He needed a friend.
@@joellevandernol He called Jonathan a fag if I remember correctly, or maybe the word was queer but he used it as an insult anyway Edit: I found it, it's when Steve thinks Nancy has cheated on him with Jonathan. He says "I'm actually kind of impressed, I always took you for a queer but I guess you're just a little screw-up like your father".
I LOVE how the music stopped there after her confession, her being visibly nervous about his reaction. And then he just cracks a joke and the music slowly comes back as their relationship remains unharmed and life is slowly moving on.
This scene filled me with SO MANY emotions. Watching the pain come over Robin's face as she realizes what's happening and that she knows she's going to have to let him down and possibly lose his friendship. Laughing at Steve and his oblivious 'shes a girl' comment. That sense of relief and pure fucking joy when he started teasing her taste in women. This friendship just means so much to me. I cannot wait to see more of these two next season.
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You can see Robin is struggling so hard. She knows she's going to break Steve's heart, but she has to tell him the truth because she really loves him and knows he deserves honesty. And Steve handles the situation sooo brilliantly. This scene is so touching, sad and relieving at the same time. Masterpiece.
Keev Hardy i’ve been in the same situation robin was. having to break your best friends heart is hard. she portrayed the emotions perfectly.
@@skippingconsistently3851 Same, and yeah it just fucking hurts.
@@skippingconsistently3851 I know right ugh 😣 I love Robin so much and Steve their the best friends ever tbh ❤
Right. Masterpiece
Yes! I can imagine exactly what she’s thinking at every point
his “oh” was so soft 🥺
I KNOWWW 😭 a pivotal character development moment
IKR
Ikr
Ikr
Ikr!
I can practically taste Robin's relief when Steve starts teasing her for her taste in women. that was SO MUCH trust she gave him.
T K No, this show may take place in the 80s but it has a really modern hindsight applied to that time period.
@ yea
imagine coming out and your best friend instantly judges your taste in women
THE1NONLY1 I think by taste in women he didn’t mean the fact that she was gay, just making fun of Tammy
@@Pewds9 it's better than him freaking out, telling your parents, making fun of you, telling your school, beating you up, etc.
Steve immediately roasting her taste in women after she came out just has major chaotic best friend energy. Iconic duo
Fr I love them sm
I love how instead of being digusted or upset he was rejected, he just went, "Really? You can do better than her." At least to me it shoes how much they mean to each other
@@minisarge2619 its a netflix show. off course hed be acceptive
@@l.v1473 Most people aren’t jerks and won’t ghost someone just because of their sexuality 😐
@@315._k7 today yeah, but this show isn’t set in modern day. This season is set in 1985, and it would be totally normal and accepted to ghost her and never talk to her again cause she’s gay. Do I think it’s right? No, of course not, but that’s the truth.
The way Steve reacts to her confession by making her laugh and being totally cool about it is the best thing ever. Character development y’all
Just imagine how season 1 Steve would've reacted to her coming out.
It just goes to show how much fighting monsters and becoming the official babysitter to a group of preteens can really alter your whole personality for the better!💖😊
Bro I’ll literally never be over his character development 😭
@@stinkyassclown4602 What's funnier is that Steve's development was an accident, since both he and Dustin's plotlines were going nowhere, they just made them cross paths with each other.
Ahal1 lol I started to watch the whole show again after the last episode and omg, it’s crazy how well this show represents character development. I love how at they’re selfish teens who then go through traumatic experiences that in, different ways, teach them that they need to be better people. It’s such and awesome show 🤣
the absolute hurt you can see in robin's eyes when she realizes that steve likes her is so heartbreaking. you can tell that their friendship means so much to her and she's terrified that by rejecting him she'll ruin it. that's what makes this show and the characters so relatable and loved, because i think we all go through that at some point.
Also probably the fear that her new best friend wouldn't accept hat she's gay... :(
I mean so
Hat shes gay?
capricorny Amazing how you somehow focused all of the attention of Robyn and didn't care at all about how Steve felt.
capricorny are you lesbian?
Years later and I will stand by the fact that Steve is the most well-written character in this show. His character progression is unrivaled
i went from hating him to adoring him by the end of s.3 - pretty incredible writing, i think!
yes but the character gets no wins ... from the ladiesmagnet degraded to a joke in costume... i would have wished hed get a girl.. or at least more respect from his surroundings. This scene was like one more punch in the stomach of this already unlucky chracter. Hes the most punished character in this series by far,, his downfall undeserved.
@@bigboulder I don't think this was any kind of gut punch for Steve. His crush is unrequited, sure, but he obtains a best friend which is in many ways what he needed as a character. It also directly shows character growth compared to how he was dealing with rejection in the first season. I would expect him to fully transition into a father/big brother figure in the fourth season. I suspect there might be a romantic subplot for him as well
@@bigboulder you don't need a romantic relationship to be happy.
@@jeebe393 a matter of opinion..but i would guess that most people would prefer to have a partner in life..and for steves character..thats definately his goal.
The part where Steve is describing his crush and Robin immediately knew he was talking about her and the way she got frustrated and sad knowing that she'll break his heart is such an emotional scene 🥺
I thinks she's also afraid for herself that he'll end their friendship and tell other people what she said. I was around in the 80s and let me tell you that coming out as a Lesbian in a small Midwestern city would have been a tough journey.
its so amazing because you can tell she loves him and is taken aback by how sweetly he talks about her, but knowing she will never love him romantically
I love how they framed this scene, especially the first half. They're directly facing each other but the toilet partition provides a divide that lets them both express their emotions perfectly: Steve's rising sincerity and Robin's crestfallen despair. It was so bold and unexpected to *NOT* have them end up together (what a swerve) but geez do I love how it developed both of their character's even more.
Stop making this about Steve istg
@@lottegeldof4987 It's about both of them and Steve is the character we've know longer so his development as a person in this moment is just as surprising as Robin's bravery for opening up and making herself vulnerable during such an unsupportive decade. STOP TELLING PEOPLE HOW TO FEEL. Freaking gatekeepers, I swear...
I love how when Steve realises Robin is gay, he just carries on talking with her instead of being upset she doesn't like him back. Instead of teasing her being gay, he teases her choice in women. And this is the same guy who made a homophobic slur in S1
he did? woah, definition of character developed
Best character development in the show
Would being upset be so bad though? It's perfectly natural and understandable to be upset if someone you're into doesn't like you back.
Agent Z46 yes, yes it would, you can’t expect them to naturally grow feelings for you and then getting mad at them is probably the douchiest (wow what a word) thing to do
@@windowseher I said upset, not mad. Like sad.
the way robin just desperately looks to steve with water in her eyes after he says “but she’s a girl” is heartbreaking, but the soft “oh” he says after he realizes is so kind and understanding. him being supportive of her just is another clarification that steve harrington is an angel among men
Madeline Voelkel but robin said she had crush on him. is she gay or not
@@sundarakarma9174 she was saying that to cover up the fact that she was a lesbian
@@sundarakarma9174 3:19
Sophia Borderon thank you
@@sundarakarma9174 it's cool
The chemistry between these two is off the charts, it feels like they were naturally meant to be friends.
WBC 1999 wellll there’s a slight thing in the way of that lmao
WBC 1999 shes... gay.....
@@notaerin You never know if someone gay is actually a closeted bisexual
@@JustinSullivanMarketing just let her be gay
ofe wait so I’m confused she’s just gay? Cause she said that she really liked him, but does she mean in a friend type way??
I love how instead of Steve being like "WHAT, YOU'RE GAY?!?" he's just like "Oh Robin, we have to talk about your taste in women. Cuz you can do so much better."
Steve is a golden retriever
@@Doggersclub Steve is the goat, greatest of all time
He immediately accepted her
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Her face when she knew she was going to have to break his heart and possibly lose him as a friend omg my heart
I know. Its almost like in that moment she wanted to be attracted to him so that she wouldn't lose him. Because she does love him...just not romantically. That actress is amazing. Her face conveys all those emotions.
She looked like she was having the worst period cramps of her life
John Hooper uhh i think not
dont worry
still friends
I’m so sad I read that the directors/writers wanted them to end up together but apparently they didn’t want that to happen..
Beautifully written and acted scene.
Maya Hawke is sensational, and Joe Keery, with a mix of tenderness and humour, perfectly portrays just how far Steve's character has come since the first season.
I wholeheartedly agree
Brent Crude lmao the likes are now 666😂
@HammerBann but... he didn't know she was gay then? that was before this scene.
@HammerBann If you do not understand that obsession is not a singular synonym for attraction then you have no business critiquing anyone else's writing.
The writers successfully misdirected you and you're blaming them for bad writing. That's it. End of story.
Yeah, he went to
"I'll have your daughter back by 9: 00."
to
"You better have my kids bacl by 9: 00."
The bathroom design, the cinematography, the dialogue, the acting, this scene is ICONIC
music?
Agreed. 💯
Hue Manatee there's music..?
nikoru yes. It’s very subtle
The aliens need to see it.
Robin: *Coming out as a lesbian*
Steve: Cool
Robin: Theres no problems?
Steve: Yeah, your taste.
I love Steves character. Homophobia was so bad in the '80s and Steve just shrugs it off and has no problem.
especially when you remember how Steve was in S1, his character development of going from homophobic prom king pretty boy dating the most perfect girl in school to bisexual mum of six with a crush on the metalhead outcast and whose best friend is a lesbian is one of the best in TV history
Steve is a golden retriever
Ook: *coming out as a homersexual in 8000 B.C.E*
gnak: *reaches for sharpened bone club*
Ook: **grunt** problem?
gnak: *THWACK*
Ook: *silence*
i HATE gnak. Homophobia was SUCH a big problem in the 8000 BCEs... homophobia is such an ABNORMAL, and backward practice... which means everyone pre-20th century was evil, stupid, and backward. YEP, that's right. US who have only lived for a century can declare that everyone before us (ho*mohpboic**xs) are evil backward and stupid.
Cockroaches are the 2nd lowest lifeforms. And you won't see them jumping onto a fellow sex of their's. That tells you ALL you need to know...
@@cloudwinchester0903 he is not bisexual, I think...
@@serikim6700he was, he said bad things about Will and Jonathan
Robin: I like Tammy Thompson.
Steve: GURRLLL YOU CAN DO SO MUCH BETTER THAN TAMMY THOMPSON.
Autistic Amuro I love that he’s making sure she gets the right woman 😭❤️
Autistic Amuro gurrll she can do better than girls
Anonymous User you serious?
Anonymous User uh oh, we gotta homophobe in this bitch👀
love yourself like Soobin loves bread None of that “needs to be protected” shit i hate it
Robin's face when she realizes that Steve turned on Best Friend mode is so pure and beautiful happiness
"Achievement Unlocked: Platonic Lifemate!" Love it!
@packgrog In the words of Jay, “Hetero Life-Mate.”
when she said “steve” trying to get him to realize she’s gay, i lost it
But...
But Tammy Thompson’s a girl...
Yes, very good Steve. You’re doing great.
@@Ray-hk1zm Tbh, he did the greatest
@@mat_max A true icon.
This took place in 1985 so back then being gay or lesbian wasn't that easy to say
Acually alot of women say it like that when they're not interested or interested anymore
1:32 Maya Hawke’s performance is so good. You can tell she appreciates the fact that Steve likes her, but it hurts her too because she realizes she has to tell him she’s gay.
Bro a girl is a gay? I-i dont understand
@@mugi8833 Gay is also used as an umbrella term for anyone liking the same gender as themselves. So, yes, it applies to girls as well. I hope this could clear up the confusion :)
@@mugi8833 gay just means homosexual, a gay girl is a girl that likes other girls, a gay guy is a guy that likes other guys lol
Fake n gay
they were on drugs
Steve had the best character development of all time. From douchebag popular jock who only cared about himself to being a single mum who accepts people for who they are.
Lol, you're so sad.
@@JeanDefee how?
@@JeanDefee lol, shut up
Two words: Jaime Lannister
He is so keel becuz he accupt ppl 4 Jo day r
Robin's emotions are joyfully explored in this scene, but it's worth saying that this is also a turning point for Steve. I think he really shows his maturity in this moment. Instead of being distraught by Robin's rejection, he digests it and lets it wash right over him. Their friendship outweighs any fleeting romantic disappointment. He embraces it for what it is, accepting and adapting like an emotionally intelligent adult. It's like he's really, finally left high school behind.
Being chased by psychic monsters and secret agents surely gives you perspective on what's important in life.
Preach! And what makes it even better is that the reason why he forced himself to get over the rejection so fast is because he could see in how much distress she was - scared that only he will stop being friends with her, but also that he could go into some sort of homophobic freakout and start insulting her, maybe even attack her, or that he could tell everyone and turn her into a total social outcast for the whole Hawkins. Sad as it is, this is a small american town in the 80's after all.
Violet Raven and they were super superrrr homophobic at the time the show was set so it would actually be normal for him to go on a whole rant.
That's one of the reasons Robin is an important character; she helped prove how much Steve has truly grown.
Elena S M CANONICO I think the same thing might happen to Will, it was hinted he was gay earlier in the season by Mike saying “It’s not my fault you don’t like girls.” But I’m not sure about thsi
@@barz111 It is possible.
I love how they didn’t make her being gay her whole personality, and just part of it. They wrote it so well. I also love how they didn’t use the stereotype of the boy-girl friendship turning into romance
I agree, robin is extremely well written but man i just want my boi steve to be happy and find love!
Stranger Things is really good at breaking stereotypes and that's one of the reasons I like it. Like back in season 1 I thought Hopper was going to be one of those adults who doesn't listen to the kids at all and thinks they are just making up all the stuff so that the kids have no choice but to solve the mystery by themselves. Instead Hopper became one of the main characters who also tries his hardest to solve the mystery and that was definitely a good thing.
Stereotype? Relationships can only start one of two ways: boy and girl meet and immediately start dating or they become friends and then start dating. I think you mean rom-com trope.
the writers actually did plan to make robin and steve a couple, but the actors didn't feel it so they workshopped this scene and the producers ended up liking it so much that none of it was cut
Honestly as I was watching this the first time, I thought that this was going to be a love confession scene and I was just like... :/ this feels so cheesey and cliché?? But okay ig, they wouldn't be an awful pair. Soooo happy they did this instead, also was lowkey hilarious watching my parents get all uncomfortable bc of unexpected gay.
as a lesbian, i relate to Robin so much in this scene. i could just feel the pain in her chest, knowing that she can’t possibly feel the same way and wishing they could’ve just stayed best friends. i wish i had a friend like steve, because most of the times this happened to me, they didn’t take it nearly as well. especially since steve was born in the 60’s, it’s amazing how kind and accepting he is in comparison to people i know who were born in the 2000’s
You're valid af, stay strong, you'll find a good friend soon!
I mean it is a show but i think in general someone from the 60s would take it way worse compared to someone from the 2000s
people can so beautiful and lovable until they think theres something wrong w you and they start acting insane to the point you don't know them anymore
@@rhysstanley7387 I think it depends on the person
Like, Steve seems like the kind of person who would really accept her and love her anyway, or at least, Steve from season 3-4 and maybe 2 (I don't think the Steve from season 1 would be this open and great)
It's a really rare thing probably between people of that eras, but he seems the exception
Like now there are people who are like this, so more open and who don't find anything wrong with it and people who find it a taboo or something terrible
(I hope there aren't grammar mistakes here, I'm not a native speaker so sorry in advance in case I made any)
@City Beautiful Adventures yeah that thing wasn't that great of him... Even though it was probably his way to say "stay safe"
A very bad way to say "stay safe" but still a way
Luckily they didn't kill him before... The new Steve is one of the best characters ever and I'm really happy they made him grow up like that
I love her performance in this, especially the end. Yeah, she's kidding around, but underneath she's so relieved that nothing has changed between her and her friend.
H&R Web don’t self advertise it’s against TH-cam’s terms of service
Her laughter to his jokes felt to me, on top of him being funny, like a catharsis for her, like she was so relieved she was accepted and they could still be besties, and possibly even relief beyond just Steve, as he may well be the first person in her life who knows. So the moment is doubly cathartic because for the first time in her life, she's unburdened from this very personal secret that probably made her feel afraid and lonely and self conscious.
This scene is everything, and to me, the best scene of the season, and a definite contender for best of the entire series. I'm so excited for Maya Hawke. The girl's gonna be huge - famous parents or not. Terrific performance.
@@jonathanguito1168 I've never even thought of the possibilty that he might be the first person she came out to, interesting thought, that this moment affects not just their friendship but her life from that moment forward.
She expresses so much with a few looks and laughs. I'm also excited to see her in more things from now on.
Bash, I’m sorry, but that’s just not how it works.
I think/hope they were joking - honestly Steve IS pretty enough to turn me straight (joking joking he is pretty though).
Honestly, the way that Maya portrayed those difficult, difficult emotions was phenomenal and just so real. I love her
She looks just like her momma ❤️
Because her Mother is the wonderful Uma Thurman
You can even see the pain in her eyes. That's what I call AMAZING acting 👏🏻
Daughter of Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman... Acting is in her genes
Wrong.
Steve Harrington: mom, friend, ally.
We Stan.
YES. ✨👏🌈
I wish I had a friend like Steve
There’s no way he’s not bi
i like that bojack ;w;
That soft "Steve" after he says Tammy Thompson's a girl has me in shambles. She was so terrified of what he would say, that he would reject her and she'd lose her friend, ugh. Great acting.
Steve’s reaction seems pretty spot on for the time this takes place. You can kinda tell that he either has never met a gay person or perhaps he at one point bullied one back when he was a douche. His reaction is a mix of surprise, confusion but also acceptance
Juan Jaramillo pretty sure he called Johnathon a “queer” in s1 so yh this is good character development
Not only that, but he makes fun of who she crushes on and not her,
It's like, he's still the Steve we love, he's just come further in a good way without changing completely
it also shows that when someone makes the argument of "Well, he was just a product of his time" to explain away homophobia or other bad stuff, it's just utter bullshit. Steve, who started out as a vapid '80s douchebag, nonetheless has a good heart, which is something that transcends the societal hang-ups of any era.
yeah!
@@lauristonbrewster9097 I can't be more disagree with you, you have described Steve perfectly! And I wanna give all my respect to Duffer brothers for all the work they put in stranger things! It's really a good thing for people who watch the show! :)
I think people are forgetting just how bad homophobia was in the '80s, so imagine how terrifying this must be for Robin and how kind Steve is for understanding.
I mean they were ostracized fired and kicked out of homes and hospitals
And his opinion just so happened to align with 2020 views. That’s convenient.
@@jltplease Actually, not *everyone* was a total dick in the 80s like you are now
@@p0lyxena of course. That's why the word f((a))g was allowed in pg-13 movies for the 80s and 90s..
@@jltplease And...? Movies obviously don't reflect the views of all human beings. It's entirely possible and not "2020 views" that there were accepting people in the 80s
“Tammy Thompson’s cute and all but she’s a total dud!”
Literally straight away into supportive best friend mode we stan Steve so much
We like Steve, but we don't LOVE Steve.
@@kirinyardberry1324 OH WE *_LOOOOOVE_* STEVE
@@kirinyardberry1324 no no we love steve
STRAIGHT away
Lol loser
To me the best part isn’t even that she came out and he’s cool with it.
It’s that he poured his heart out to her, basically confessing his love, and then she revealed that not only does she not feel that way about him; she never will - never CAN, even - and he not only accepts it; he immediately starts joking with her like he didn’t just get his heart stomped on (again).
Steve is the GOAT. People say Mike is the heart of the show but it's been Steve for a long time now.
@@EvilMagnitudeI think you’ll find that ONE PERSON thinks Mike is the heart and that’s because he has a crush on him lol
the way dustin barges in and says his line is so fucking funny to me
ayuh “Ok whAt tHe heLL”
ayuh ikr😂
perfect comedic timing
The fact that Steve immediately starts talking about girls with her melts my heart 💞
@swegga.331 total elipse of the heart by bonnie tyler
Two *terrific* actors in a well written scene.
wtf they're good actors
ceci loves yves terrific means good
@@pastaluvrr oH lol I'm not really fluent in english so i didn't know qksjs sorry
@@ceci_sph I don't know why but as non native speaker of English, I always mix up terrific and terrifying lol
@@thirstymonk same😭😭
They’re so cute together, I’m convinced they are soulmates just not romantic, rather platonic soulmates
Media when male and female are hinting to romantic interest: haha no they're platonic, in fact the woman is gay and the guy is a soy drinking beta male so he continues his friendship with her
Media when male and male have a platonic friendship: they are GAY and will express it in a GAY shy timid way. And then we will introduce homophobic characters that end up becoming GAY and joining a monkeypox orgy with the two GAY men
Tldr; Hollywood sexualizes male platonic friendships and platonizes male-female relations.
Twin Flames is the proper term.
I love that he didn’t say anything about Robin being gay. He just immediately started making fun of her crush. That’s peak best friend culture
Sort of reminds me of Degrassi when Marco comes out to Spinner and assures him he won't hit on him because he doesn't find Spinner attractive anyway. Spinner, despite being straight, is hugely offended by that comment. "Whaddaya mean I'm not attractive?!"
@@FireMinstrel lmao yea I remember that-
GAY.
auauauauauua
this is so true lmaooo
The way Robin cares about having to reject Steve romantically, the way Steve reacts when he is rejected but quickly realises Robin is vulnerable and and puts her at ease with a joke about her crush...this whole scene is prime. Two people becoming genuine best friends once they fully understood one another. Also, Steve's heart wasn't broken, it was not love, love is deeper and takes longer than a summer in an ice cream place. Steve really liked her and was romantically rejected. It can still hurt but if you've emotional intelligence you can process that pretty quickly. Steve processed that he wasn't rejected as a person, as a friend, just as a romantic partner. It's that emotional intelligence that allowed Steve to instantly realise the person he cares about is isolated and vulnerable by her admission to him and quickly put her at ease. She was also scared of losing him as a friend. The way the chords of the music slowly builds again the second he jokes about Tammy mirrors Robin's emotional state as it too slowly builds up again once she realises Steve accepted her for who she is. It's such a powerful scene.
Long ass paragraph hoollyyy
Daaaaaamn boy. You be doing some work
@@randomdude8217 oh yeah yeah
Old Skool Wax why can’t u just watch the show instead of being a smart ass
ImGay 69 that’s not what being a smart ass means
Everything about this scene is just so authentic and likable, Season 3 was all great but Robin and Steve were absolutely the standout. Joe Keery and Maya Hawke should be in everything.
Indeed, I'm glad that they didn't have Steve and Robin hook up, as you might expect in stories like this. Instead, they are still able to maintain a strong friendship after their adventures. Yay for subverting expectations!😀 #scooptroopforlife
This is so true i want to cry
@@trinaq nah this was a blow to Steve. Damn a girl who was baiting you the whole time saying things like I wish you knew me and making him think she liked him was messed up. I think in reality guys would feel disappointed. I feel bad for Steve as once again shot down
She led him on the whole time. I hated this scene.
Ryan Carpenter how did she lead him on?
I love how the music swells when Robin starts to realize that everything is ok and that she has been accepted
Steve: *tries to confess his love*
Robin: well yes, but actually no
I feel like people give a lot of credit to Steve for not being homophobic and obviously he deserves that credit, but he also deserves credit because he literally fell in love with Robin and could have been mad or sad for a longer time, or like telling her "okay I need some time to get over you" but he took the hit so well and never got angry at her for not being attracted to him or something
idk I felt like somebody should mention it
I wish Robin dies
I remember in season one, the time where he was at first to be thought of the worst character, he insulted Jonathan by saying he mistook him for a queer. Now he completely accepts his best friend as gay. Goddamn this is another reason to love Steve’s character development
You're not wrong though I think it's the best type of letdown. It's one thing for a crush to say they just aren't into men but it hits harder when they are into men but not into YOU. That being said it's still a beautiful scene and Itotally agree with your premise.
He was like that with Nancy too in a way, when he fully realized and accepted that she doesn't love him anymore. That little scene in s2 after Nancy and Jonathan slept together during their trip and when they met up with Steve again, he knew that things had changed. And instead of making Nancy feel bad about her kinda cheating on him (they hadn't officially broken up) he reassures her that "it's okay". And he looks and sounds like he absolutely means it. I respect that a lot about him, that he takes rejection in such an accepting way, even though it must hurt him, but he still cares about this person (Nancy and Robin) so much and does everything to make them not feel bad about it. I just really love Steve.
Yeah not just not being homophobic but also not having that toxic attitude after being rejected a lot of women are scared of. But I get it he wasn't interested in her until they were friends, he didn't go in to that relationship with that agenda of becoming her boyfriend and getting "friend zoned."
I love the last part where they’re laughing and the music just turns up because they are _friends._
I love this scene because at the end of the day they’re still friends.
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thanks bro for the Amazing beautiful vid
at this point, i think they’re _best friends._
honestly tho
1:42 That look breaks my heart. It’s not the look of “Oh man, I need to reject this guy” it’s the look of “Oh no, I need to tell this guy something that might make him never like or respect me again.”
Both, and more. Kudos to Maya Hawke for some excellent acting here.
In a series full of horror this was one of the most beautiful scenes. Authentic, believable, brilliantly acted. This made me cry for all the right reasons.
@#BLINK JJRL shut the hell up man
The scene where they were both twisted out of their minds discussing Back to the Future was hilarious
@@SB-ck7jv what are you like ten?, it's wayyyyy past your bedtime pal do the world a favor and shut the hell up
Okay David Randall
@@SB-ck7jv natural selection will come for you, stupid fuck
Robin: “I like girls.”
Steve: “Really?! Me too! We should keep hanging out!”
Derek Fisher well its now you douche
@Derek Fisher It's also not natural to wear glasses, dye hair, use the restroom anywhere but the ground, eat processed foods, get divorced, or even wear braces. But I guess we just pick and choose huh?
Lol
@Derek Fisher are you saying girls can't love girls? Your an @$$hole
Fun facts studies says being homosexual is pretty common in nature so it's pretty natural
The fact that Robin knows Steve's talking about her when he starts describing his 'crush' and starts crying because she could never love Steve the way he did and doesnt want to break his heart
And the way she's relieved when Steve starts making fun of her choice in women
Maya Hawke is such a great actor
Her moms uma thurman
I actually got really bummed when she died in fear street
@@cupoftea3499 don't give a shit about that movie but don't randomly give spoilers in coments of another show, asshole.
I think it was more about the 'I really do like him and I have to tell him I'm gay' part.
She gets it from her mum Uma Thurman😊😊
It is *impossible* to not at least crack a smirk at this scene. Every scene with Robin and Steve is so funny and adorable
the Dustin and Erika sends it
Dustin and Erika are also a good duo as well.
@@Coco_1958 I love Dustin and Erika too lmao
@@Cologram lol, same.
I hope that in season 4 we just get a bunch of Robin and Steve hanging out scenes like we did in season 3 because there friendship is amazing
I feel like if S4 is hypocritically 10 episodes, we're gonna see a bunch of scenes of them hanging out, watching movies, and obviously trying to score at the video store
@@mcnuggets2011 i can totally see them checking out girls at the video store all day long lol
i want steve giving unsolicited dating advice to robin and robin one-upping him on everything
I want to see competitions of who can pick up the most girls
@@anotherlee_ Honestly I want to see Robin being a total disaster gay and Steve aggressively being her wingman lmao
Steve is the best-developed character in stranger things. Total jerk to sweetheart. love it.
Just goes to show that good-hearted people can be corrupted by their asshole friends. That was pretty much a significant reason why he was a jerk in S1 - his friend group was a bunch of asshats, and that's how he was too. Thankfully, he learned.
@@i_booba exactly.
@@i_booba yea he regretted destroying jonathen camera
@@i_booba i never realized it that way before i read this comment. It makes sense though.
Total jerk to mom
As a straight dude with a really close female friend who's gay, Robin and Steve's friendship was the best part of season 3 and super relatable.
Edit: This has aged kinda poorly because I've realised I'm bi but I still platonically love my friend so fuck it.
JP O'Brien i know Man! I met my best friend kinda like this and I could relate as well! She is amazing and I love her! Just like Steve loves robin! Can’t wait for season 4
@@peter7371 "kinda like this" so you and your best friend were chased by a russians in the mall who ran a super secret facility to open a portal to an alternative reality :p cool
Fansu Janneh Not a bad way to become best friends with someone.
just say lesbian
@@FiercyRabbit1 he said "met kinda like this", steve and robin met at the ice cream shop they work at, he means he probably met her at work (i know steve and robin knew of each other before they worked there but they didn't know each other)
So great how they brought this conversation back when Tammy comes to sing before the game and Robin and Steve just look at each other like “muppet.”
This was one of my favourite scenes, Steve's reaction made it
Mine too, the look on his face as he tries to process the information, and when he states "But Tammy Thompson's a girl", sees Robin's "Well, duh" expression, before he finally grasps what she's implying, really adds a moment of well needed hilarity to an otherwise serious situation!😅
@H&R Web no thx
yes you can tell she was scared of his reaction, but then she was really happy he accepted her for who she is.
Steve is the best character and he deserves happiness
I didn’t like this scene. I really wanted they ended up together. :(
I like them better as friends and that lgbt representation is being included in a positive way. But that’s my opinion.
Robin: I'm a lesbian
Steve: I thought you were american
*macintosh plus plays in the backround*
😂😂😂
gold
Looooord😂😂😂
Underrated comment !!!!💀💀💀💀
Hailey Vallet it’s a vine lol. they just said it bc it would fit with the scene.
Robins face when he starts revealing that he likes her, and she knows that she’s gonna have to break it to him, is PURE GOLD MAYA IS SO TALENTED
And how risky it is for her to come out to the former school's resident douchebag in the 80s. Huge leap of faith, he could have ruined her life the next day.
@@gargamellenoir8460 Douchebag? You still stuck in season 1, bud?
@@mv9370 hence why they put 'former'
@@gargamellenoir8460 after everything they went through together? No way.
That is the equivalence of getting left on seen
We need a Robin & Steve spin off that's just a workplace buddy comedy where they get fired at the end of every season and have to start a completely different job at the start of the next one.
We need this SO badly
Underrated comment
i would KILL for this, keep it live-action too
Wait yo this sounds good. 😳 I should try that
YES.I would watch it in a heartbeat
“And the guy?”
“He’s on drugs and is not thinking straight”
actually Robin, you’re the one not thinking straight
gotem
AYOOOOOOO
LMAOOSJH
OooooOoOoOOOooooooo
Ayooooo! 👏🏻😂 They’re friendship is so sweet though! And Steve’s character development throughout this show is great. I can’t wait for season 4. 😌
S1 Steve: A-hole bully/playboy.
S2 Steve: Badassed.
S3 Steve: Single mother
*EDIT: fine, y'all won, single mom it is.
he was a single mother is s3 actually
Anh Nguyen single mother Xd
Single MOM bruh
S1: Steve a dickhead
S2: Steve adopts Dustin
S3: Steve adopts Erica, finds his Robin and he becomes a single mom
S3 Steve Single father and high af
The music as they joked about the girl who Robin liked just made me so happy.
i’m pretty sure it was the same music as the music playing in the scene of mike and wills fight
its called "the first lie" and theres another version called "the first i love you"
*And if you could hold me tight!*
Jerold Boy we’ll be holding on forever
And we’ll only be making it right
Cus we’ll never be ...
together we can take it to the end of the night
@@sialxve8627 What? It's Bonnie Tyler - Total Eclipse of the Heart
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The pain in her eyes, when Steve was talking about his crush on her. This whole scene is a cinematic masterpiece
the look on robin's face as she realizes he's talking about her is tragically relatable :(
the guilt of a guy liking you when you’re a lesbian is unreal, but steve dealt with it so well and i’m glad they chose to redeem him :))
I felt bad for the both of them, but they handled it well. Robin knowing she was the attention of Steve’s affection then having to let him know how she truly felt and Steve not having the best of luck with girls the entire season and when he finally thinks he found the one then it’s revealed that she likes girls and he has no chance, but in the heat of the moment they joke as friends. It’s a truly emotional scene in my eyes for the both of them.
RIGHT?!?!??? I’ve never seen that so realistically portrayed on screen. Infact, I don’t think I’ve ever seen it PERIOD! But I’ve been through it so many times. So many guys who are about to ask me out and I just have that “oh fuck” moment like “I’m about to crush this poor boy’s soul”
@@shaybrown7355 Yeah, I completely agree. There is sometimes where we just have to accept things and people for how they are, no matter how hard we fall for them. I’m excited to see how they continue Steve and Robin’s storyline, I just hope that both of them are able to get their happy endings for season 4. Who truly knows, maybe Robin and Steve can help each other get girlfriends? I’d love to see that honestly, or Steve coming to grapple with his feelings for Robin, but still being there for her as a best friend even though he feels more attached to her than just as a friend.
aww:(
That's how you reveal a gay character, by waiting till the show is released. Not going on the internet saying, "say hello to the first bona-fide openly gay character of the show!". Stranger Things did it right.
And not only that, but her being gay is actually meaningful and adds depth to the character and the story.
Great writing, if you ask me.
@Matheus E
You sure? I didn’t sense any real implications of her being a lesbian at all. Not like she should’ve worn a sign on her chest exclaiming her sexuality, but I honestly feel like the character would’ve remained relatively the same if she was straight. It’s not a bad thing that they added an admittedly “gay” character to the roster, but I feel that they should’ve done it in a way that would actually impact/explain the decisions she makes over the course of the show, not just so that she could turn down Steve.
Hopefully in the fourth season they’ll actually build upon her sexuality and properly implement it into her character, but I just feel like the way the “big reveal” happened could’ve been better.
@@swissidol8403 The way i see it, it changed her and the relationship she had with Steve.
For example, it shows the struggle she had with her sexuality possibly affecting her friendship with Steve, because he could judge her or being so heartbroken.
Sure, she didnt need to be gay for the Steve rejection thing to work, but i think it was a clever way to do it. I mean, Nancy already dumped Steve cause he wasnt her type, if the same happened to Robin, it would be kinda boring.
I also think it was meaningful to her, because it adds to her personality. The whole season i thought she liked to tease and mock Steve in a way of drawing his attention to her, kinda like "notice me" way. So it works like a semi plot twist, if you will.
And yeah, it wasnt explored a lot, but it didnt needed to be. Shes a secondary character on a pretty large roster, and sexuality is far from the main focus of the plot.
Matheus E remember that a certain character being gay doesn’t _have_ to be meaningful or add depth. They can just be. It’s called existing. Yet so many ppl rage when it happens
@@sia6045 Actually, it does have. Anything you do with a character, must have a purpose to them or the story. If it does not have, you're just wasting the audience time with filler information.
She loves him, but she's not in love with him. You can see it in her eyes
And that’s why she’s a great actor
@@yy0k1 that is why they are both great characters. despite his faults, its believable that a wonderful bond could grow between them. (top trivia, steve was suppose to die in season one to the demigorgon, but the show runners ended up keeping him because they love the actor and his style both on and off camera.)
Atomic FireDog true! Both of them are amazing actors
poor steve,after nancy and now robins?
Atomic FireDog seriously!? Oh I didn’t know that 😯
Homophobia was quite bad in the 80s so the fact that robin came out to Steve in the bathroom and he's supported her is like so sweet ♥️♥️
@Ville It's not the focus of the scene so what does it matter?
They are the textbook definition of platonic soulmates. I love them
platonic with a capital P!
yeah i had one of those with a gay man years ago. he and i still talk on occasion but it unfortunately did not end as well. things just became too awkward afterwards.
@@miaaaaa1001 the capital P stands for hard PAUSE
They are my favorite part of the show now. They have such great chemistry and are the perfect best friends.
@@bocolatebhipbookie I’m interested in this story. Could you explain more?
dude she captured the exact emotion a lesbian feels when a close male friend catches feelings, like sadness and discomfort and anxiety.
Its not the guys fault tho, and usually you keep the ones that act like this lmao
caleviwin i wasn’t implying that it’s his fault. the sadness is also from knowing you will have to hurt someone you love, by rejecting their deep, romantic feelings for you. no one wants to have to do that.
fr
yanaaa same 🥺😔
Her action is gold
the impossibly pained face robin makes when he’s describing her i cant
I deadass died I was crying so hard
tiana i know the feeling she went through. it honestly picks away at your heart because you know your about to hurt such a pure person. it sucks. she portrayed it perfectly.
@@SassySiSi Oh so, because she's a 'good' person, she deserves someone now huh? Isn't that what you women say is the exact opposite of frustrated men who get overlooked by women? Funny how that works. Maybe, Tammy deserves to have her own preference or whatever y'all say to justify the superficial nature women have when ignoring men with character who aren't tall enough.
@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 ok incel
@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 where tf did you get that take shut up incel taking everything seriously
I’ll be honest, I haven’t watched a single episode of this show, but I find myself coming back to this video and watching it whenever I need to cry. As a lesbian, this is probably the most genuine coming out scene I have ever seen, it’s so goddamn beautiful
fr!! its so beautiful in its simplicity!! the subject matter is so huge but their friendship outshines any need for secrets and its so sweet!
It may well be the best scene in the entire series. I just adore this scene. I may not be queer personally, but several of my friend are, so I can empathize. I've also just struggled with any feeling of acceptance, so I can identify on that level as well. May we ALL wind up with friends as accepting as Steve in this scene.
I love how she's worried that he's gonna freak out on her and Steve is just like: wtf you like THAT girl, she can't even sing🤣🤣
Btryx I see the supernatural fandom.....
It's cuz he's trying to get rid of the tension. Obviously its really weird for him but since they are friends he doesnt really want to make things awkward since he ya know said he liked her. So he throws some jokes in the mix. Because he is amazing, poor steve :(
Btryx why was robin acting weird when she met nancy
@@edincehic864 No. It comes naturally cause it is not a big deal. He doesnt have to throw in the jokes.
@@svenr.3803 I think it's a little bit of both. On the one hand, Steve has come such a long way from the arrogant, judgemental d-bag he was in season 1, so it is totally in character that he would be so accepting of Robin regardless of her sexuality or the fact that she didn't reciprocate his romantic feelings for her. On the other hand, he probably understands on some level that coming out to someone (especially back then in middle America) is / was a pretty big deal, and ripping on her choice of crush is his way of showing that nothing has changed between them. Without explicitly saying so Steve is showing Robin that he accepts and supports her, because that's what friends do.
I have never shipped and unshipped people so fast
Me too
Same lmao
Sameeee
SAME like, i used to ship them but when i knew robin was a lesbian i unshipped them right away
Returned
At this point Netflix is the biggest Stranger Things fan account 😂
It's a smart move tbh. Be the ones uploading rather than trying to prevent random people from doing it
Rohan Sreeram 😂
probs one if the best shows out there.
WRONG. It’s because stranger things are popular and they want to keep us updated, smh
“WRONG” “smh”
⬆️
Person who is hating, don’t use them cause it only shows that you just hate for my opinion.😆😆🤣🤣
Honestly thooo
This scene was awesome. This is how you introduce LGBT characters in the narrative.
or characters who happen to be gay 😳
@@james1311na *cough* *will* *cough*
Lettuce grill bacon tomato characters?
I do like a good sandwich.
@@han9k. yeah, they've been building up to that very gently for a while. They aren't hiding it, but they're being subtle with it and expressing it through allusion and visual acting without outright stating anything. Also important for a character being played by an actor that has been underage for most of the series.
They're not LGBT for god's sake. They are people with different sexual tastes. They are people like us. Fool.
steve is probably one the most likable characters ever and it’s totally by accident since the writers initially planned to kill him off in the first season (so glad they didn’t)
Well, they make up for not killing him by beating the crap out of him every season.
@@chapacoka lol true
Poor Steve gets his ass handed to him literally every season. Like even when he wins a fight and we are so proud of him, something bigger comes along and just. Fucks. Him. Up. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@princesspoop6531 At the very least he seems to be getting better. He actually won a fight in season 3 against a trained solider.
i was neutral towards him at first and now he's probably my favorite character in the show. that's how you know the writing is good
Her face when she realized that she‘s going to break his heart:,(
Ikkkk
🥺yeahhhh! And you can see the exact moment she realizes, her whole demeanor changes
I think also she was crying because she was afraid of coming out to Steve
@@_maddie_makes_music HI
Riy Btl agreed her eyes at 4:16 are all red
I need Steve to take the kids on a trip to the Byers family in season 4
Mama Steve, back in business with his children in tow!😊❤
That would be so fun..
as much as i love that idea i highly doubt steve would go that far out of his way to take the kids to see will and eleven and go hang out with jonathan lol
and he isnt as close with will or eleven as he is with the other kids (see season 2) so i really dont see this happening
ON THE TODFATHER
YASSSSS
Steve handled it like a champ and a true friend. 💯👏🏽
Robins face when she realised that Steve was talking about her, it’s like she was worried he would freak out
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she was very slow honestly, and also telling him that she was obsessed was like, what?
Luis Mena RAP
IK I was like why are you leading Steve off if you were gay the whole time.
@@addieeeson She's bi of course she likes him some relationships takes time to grow specially if ones still discovering her sexuality.
SMP2390 She’s not bi lol, the actor who plays robin says she’s a lesbian
The way Robin goes when she realises he’s in love with her makes me so sad because she knows that she’ll have to hurt him and she doesn’t want to do that
Why no comments?!?(except mine)
Maya did this part very well!
Totally, the moment where Robin huddles into herself because she knows that Steve deserves to know the truth, but this being the mid 1980's, she's nervous as to what his reaction will be, and that he won't want to be associated with her anymore. Maya's acting really sells this scene!❤😀
Trina Q not to mention he’s probably the first person she’s come out to
I know it breaks my heart
Best outcome for both of them. Steve, needs another solid friend in his corner, a long with Dustin. And Robin needs a friend that accepts her for who she is. One of the best scenes of the series
Yep. I feel like the romance between them was kind of forced anyways, like Steve just wanted to get over Nancy so he desperately clung to the idea of someone new. Fortunately he found a real friend instead
I mean they were already friend anyway they just for closer Steve has enough friends and he's developed as a person I think he deserved someone this season.
The way the made it look was kinda a dick move
@@Aishai26 there's a difference between your actual friends and your work friends
I could've skipped several years of therapy if absolutely anyone had responded to me coming out as well as Steve did.
hi i don't know you or anything but i hope you're doing well right now and i & many people in this world do support you
Me before knowing robin was gay: omg they could end up together
Me after knowing robin was gay: omg they’re like brothers from another mother
Am I the only one who thought she was gay from the get go, like I didn't expect them to make it canon but she felt like such a lesbian(this feeling might also come from my crush on her)
@@f4d4 SAME
@@f4d4 yeah same 😳😳😳
Mothers from another mother
@@f4d4 same lol
A lot of people think Steve’s reaction is bad because he starts ‘criticising’ her choice in women. As someone who is queer, if I came out and I got this reaction, I would feel so much relief. Steve isn’t criticising her. He knows she’s terrified, and he wants to reassure her that it’s okay, and he starts making fun of Tammy to show her that she deserves way better.
I just really love this scene because I hope my friends will have the same reaction when I come out, and I just feel comforted by this.
I’m not gay but I see your username is in a Eastern European language. Godspeed because I know it may be extra scary for you.
I mean it’s not just that it’s the fact he confessed and got rejected at the same time he found out so it’s understandable
I think it’s less that he want to show her that “she deserves better” and more that friends often make fun of each other, but trust each other enough to know they’re joking, so Steve starts poking a little fun at her taste in women in a friendly sort of way to let her know that the friendship is still there and that she doesn’t need to worry.
@@johncouch587 Eastern Europe is not Middle East.
@@nesaroth a lot of it has a much more conservative society than Western Europe. While you wouldn’t be killed or anything, I’d imagine being ostracized is a legitimate fear.
the moment robin realized who he was talking about and the pain she knew she had to break to him was so powerful
awesome dawson Steve took it very well, but I can't believe it's the same Steve from season one
'oh hey you like boobs? Big deal. I like boobs.' These two are friends for life and amazing, and I utterly adore the pair. Theyv'e got eachother's backs. And coming out in the eighties is all kinds of terrifying. She trusted him, and was still terrified.
This is why I love Steve. His ''oh'' is not one of homophobia. It's an ''oh'' of ''I didn't know this at all, now I do, and I accept you.''' and then they just laugh about Robin's taste in women. We all need a best friend like Steve.
It was like an "Oh" of realization
Well I mean it’s also an “oh” of disappointment for himself, I mean he genuinely had a crush on Robin, dare I say he was starting to fall in love with her and that’s him realizing that was never an option on the table for him. Even in season 4 Steve says he would date Robin if she wasn’t gay.
But he realizes also that the way he feels about her shouldn’t have to ruin their friendship. He wants to be with her in some way and if it’s platonic then that’s okay too.
the accretion part happens later, but when you hear you don’t think about acception wtf? it’s normal, not superior, not less to him
and frankly i don’t think he gives a shit and he was drugged
but here it was “oh i fucked up didn’t know” doe to his selfishness of thinking he was liked by her
I'm homophobic.
@@eliasziad7864 Homophobia lmao. U see village people coming and you run for your life screaming and pissing yourself XD
You can see how much Steve was taken aback by this. He really had to process the prejudice he’s grown up in, conflicting with the person he’d grown to know and care for, and when he finally settled on it, he turned it into a joke that showed he not only accepted her, but still wanted to be besties. This is one of the greatest coming out scenes in TV and I will not take arguments
the best part is I don't even think it's prejudice in the bigotry sense. it just literally had never occured to him that was a thing that could happen, was possible.
@@shoepixie Yeah, got to agree with you. This isn't prejudice, just dealing with the fact that someone he likes likes someone else. Plus, Tammy is a total dud...
@@shoepixie this is the 80's
I would definitely say there's bigotry involved
Steve is a champion
@@isaacpianos5208 oh I'm not saying bigotry isn't the larger reason, but watching the scene I got the feeling Steve just literally had never come across a real gay in the wild before. He just didn't get it at first.
@@shoepixie true
But thinking about how he put even the bigotry aside in a matter of 20 seconds just to make her feel ok was great for me
You can see her thinking ‘how do I tell him?’. Her thoughts are so out there and the acting is amazing. I love this scene because of the emotion you feel through the screen. It’s beautiful and heart wrenching.
Clearly she should have just sounded her barbaric yawp. :)
AWorldWithoutTenors I don’t understand but thank you
Justice Kamiya The commenter is quoting Walt Whitman, or the movie Dead Poets Society.
@@justicek.2461 it's a referrence to the movie "the dead poets society" :)
@@thenaniak Yup, specifically, the scene in The Dead Poet's Society that featured her DAD, Ethan Hawke!
i love their friendship so much
This series is set in 1985. A time when being openly gay was extremely dangerous. And also a time when TV and movies started challenging the idea that being gay was somehow wrong.
Robin represents that. A wonderful, quirky, lovely girl that is struggling in her loneliness about being gay, about wanting someone to love...about being accepted.
And there is Steve, one of the biggest jerks from her school, turning out to be a damned good friend. And she is TERRIFIED that he will reject her friendship, that he may even attack her over being gay (which happened and still happens today)...she loves him AS A FRIEND...and she is scared.
And Steve simply accepts it. It takes a few seconds to understand it. She may be the first gay person he ever met. And he just...accepts it. When so many would not have, Steve make a Muppet joke and accepts her.
That is why in the end, Robin gets Steve a job. She will now defend that doofus until the day he dies. Steve protects the Party, but Robin protects Steve. Because he earned it.
So true
SignoftheMagi Steve is absolutely amazing. A true gem
Oh god imma start crying😭😭😭😭🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💗💗💗💗💗💗💗
Facts!!
I love this show
Who gave you the right to make me cry like this
This may be the most well-written scene in the history of Netflix
Agreed. I can't think of any other single scene from any other Netflix original that instantly won me over this hard, and that's saying something. It's the perfect confluence of expert cinematography and blocking, character development, relationship development, dialogue, score, acting and pacing, not to mention being perfectly adept social commentary and progressive in its normalcy and rawness. It's essentially a three act short condensed into six minutes (and yet, rich and generous in its length in the context of a television episode, especially for a show like Stranger Things). Plus it's the moment people go from liking Robin to loving Maya Hawke, because at least in this show, this is her shining moment and she knocks it out of the park. Personally, I'd have loved for her to get an Emmy nod out of this, because it's a masterclass of understatement and expressionism. Everything about this is a masterclass. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if professors showcase this in television writing classes.
Jonathan Guito Jesus thats a long paragraph but i totally agree!
@@jonathanguito1168 yes I agree too. this is better than most of my essays lmao. very well said
the actors actually wrote it themselves!! the producers originally were setting up robin and steve to be a couple but the actors weren't feeling it so they workshopped this and in the end it stayed in the final cut
Sir I'd like you to watch Sense8.
the most unrealistic thing in this whole series is how clean those bathrooms are.
Lol 😂
They’re not going to let the actors sit on a dirty floor
Mall bathrooms are usually pretty clean.
@@samuelwoods7832 but a fake dirty floor yes
@@samuelwoods7832 lmaoooo don't watch trainspotting then
Steve roasting his lesbian bestie's taste in women immediately after getting rejected is peak friendship, I would have loved if I was treated like that when I came out. He understands, supports, and is there for her.
Robin not being Steve’s next partner was so important.
Steve has come such a long way. He lost his social status, Nancy, The one “friend” he had (that honestly only stuck around because of his status), that fight with Jonathan. And between becoming the babysitter of the group and season 3, he’s made a lot of progress. Him and Robin being friends was so important because he needed someone that was gonna be there for him unconditionally and also humble him.
He didn’t need a new partner. He didn’t need a rebound girl. He didn’t need his social status back.
He needed a friend.
Also, romantic relationship aren't everything in life!
@@Fiammaaa YES. There is so much more to life than romance. The obsession that our media seems to have with romance can get annoying sometimes.
He can be a single mom! Period!
i agree 100%
@@gebdemedici nailed it! Taking care of yourself should be prioritised a lot more
Steve: she's thinking of other guys
Robin: *thinking of other girls*
I love when a popular comment has no replies because it’s like everyone agreeing
“well... yeah pretty much”
I love this 😂👏
lmao
Steve goes from using a homophobic slur in season 1 to supporting a lesbian in season 3. He's the definition of character development.
what did he say in season 1?
@@joellevandernol He called Jonathan a fag if I remember correctly, or maybe the word was queer but he used it as an insult anyway
Edit: I found it, it's when Steve thinks Nancy has cheated on him with Jonathan. He says "I'm actually kind of impressed, I always took you for a queer but I guess you're just a little screw-up like your father".
Everyone calls everyone a fag in season 1. Hopper called Will that twice in one conversation with Joyce.
Yeah, the show sold out. Thats what happens when shows sell out.
@@cf9844 what, it becomes...good? this aint it, chief, be a dud somewhere else
This was truly one of those “human moments” you could only understand if you still have a soul or empathy for other humans.
I LOVE how the music stopped there after her confession, her being visibly nervous about his reaction. And then he just cracks a joke and the music slowly comes back as their relationship remains unharmed and life is slowly moving on.
same.. it makes the scene so much more powerful and heartbreaking, you can feel how scared she was when he didn't understand at first
Jakub Serzynski UGH❤️ what a lovely moment
"not all men" you're absolutely right, Steve Harrington would never dare disrespect a woman like this
Steve: *making fun of Tammy Thompson’s singing*
Devynn H fuck tammy thomson!
What about Nancy in s1. Remember "Nancy the slut wheeler "
@@sharminhaque2750 People are allowed to grow and mature. S1 Steve was an asshole. S3 Steve would have beaten S1 Steve up for being like that.
@@matthewschwartz6486 Exactly. S3 Steve drinks respect whamen juice 24/7 it' basically his blood
This scene filled me with SO MANY emotions. Watching the pain come over Robin's face as she realizes what's happening and that she knows she's going to have to let him down and possibly lose his friendship. Laughing at Steve and his oblivious 'shes a girl' comment. That sense of relief and pure fucking joy when he started teasing her taste in women. This friendship just means so much to me. I cannot wait to see more of these two next season.
Steve’s development was just great, at first he was kinda a jerk but became a mum and adopted a bunch of kids.