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2002 BMW M3 SMG Review, Walkaround, Exhaust, Test Drive
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ธ.ค. 2012
- A ten year old vehicle that will still put a smile on your face. BMW's fabulous M3 will no doubt, still be one sought after used vehicle on the market. It's jerky SMG transmission is it's only downfall, but we'd recommend finding one with the manual transmission anyways.
A few of you are over reacting on his review. When I drove mine for the first time, it felt that way too. After about a month, it was totally different story. The 2002 M3 SMG still is a monster! I love it!!!
The SMG doesnt suck if you know how to use it.
No, it sucks.
I mean I see why people think it sucks, because of how jerky it is, but I think this SMG transmission takes some time to get used to. I mean it is a manual that is automated, so just think of it as a normal manual, but it just feels weird not shifting yourself. The manual mode is definitely much smoother than the automatic mode, but again, it takes time to get used to. So it could go both ways.
just love your reviews
all my questions are answered every video i watch
good job
This is awesome! Thank you! Great review as always... keep up the good work!
Nice review, thanks for posting this. I'm considering buying one of these and this really helped me out.
My biggest dream car :) I cant stop thinking about it.
Good job, my favorite review so far!
Another solid review. i'm loving the new graphics.
We mentioned it was a manual with an computer controlled clutch. It's also a single automated clutch as well. The new dual clutch automated manuals are much smoother compared to this earlier generation. Even when you adjust the bars in the transmission setting, it still shifts rather harshly. The first acceleration in the video was done in the "comfort" S1 setting. But yes, our mistake, this generation goes until 2006.
A great review!!
Great Review Of 2002 BMW M3 SMG. 😀
M3 isn't just a souped up 3 series. The body is different, the engine is different... a lot of the things used on the 330 coupe doesn't fit the M3.
I think SMG tranny just needs people to understand how to drive it, exactly like how a lamborghini e-drive, or the R8's rtronic.
Lol, no. It's exactly that. A high-strung 3 series.
The m3 and 330 have the same exact engine
J B looooool NO
@@JB-fm4tb No they don't you stupid fuck.
@@nickmotsarsky4382 No it's not. It's a different machine from the 330.
I actually really like the early SMGs.
OK, so clearly this guy doesn't know anything about this car. Nothing about the transmission, the E46 M3 design or engine. Bad, bad, bad review. SMG stands for Sequential Manual Gearbox; the S-mode is for "Sequential" and A-mode is for "Automatic", as astounding as that may sound. The gear box also has 6 settings for the speed at which it will change gears. When you have it in A-mode it will default to setting 3 which is great for casual driving around town, but if you really push the car the shifts will seem too slow or jerky for that reason. In S-mode it will remember what you left it in last time and can change gears lightening fast in settings 5 and 6, though in 6 the DSC is switched off. Anyway, I can talk about this car for hours, whereas the reviewer struggled with just a few minutes. In summary, the car is epic! You just have to know something about the car, its for enthusiasts more than your casual driver who just wants to put their foot down in a fast car. Go buy a Nissan z350 or something....
These smg transmissions are awful.
What if the vehicle comes with the automatic transmission ?
That straight 6 sounds amazing.
I'm considering purchasing a 02 smg convertible, would u recommend it???
I've driven one of these. They are very fast, and the shifts are very uncomfortable, but they get pretty fun once you get used to it.
It was most likely plugged into a computer but the car passed VA inspection and was checked pretty thoroughly. Whoever was the previous owner really took care of it.
OMG YES!! love this car
It's not that we think it's a big deal. We just wanted to remind viewers not to expect it in older vehicles.
I think your getting lost with the SMG2 when its in A or S, I was the same when I purchased mine. Look closer. It's in A when the A is on, you appear to be looking at the S to the right but this just shows you what you can go to with the stick. When you press the paddles it turns A (automatic) off.
this car is why were keeping our 2000 323Ci convertible in the family. straight six, top down, classic BMW styling. this can be said for alot of makers but Bmw's really arent like they used to be with the 3 series. kind of the 5 also.
It's a matter of personal preference. The paddle shifters work very well for the track because it allows you to keep both of your hands on the wheel at all times. Another reason why you might have heard this is because BMW states that the SMG transmission shifts in 80 milliseconds. The average manual car driver shifts in about 500ms to 1s.
Its amazing how the world of automotive has changed. A 2012 mid size sedan with a v6 will probably beat this to 60. Its unreal how the technology has advanced
hey, just out of curiosity, when you said you checked out the transmission for the slip, how did you guys do it? was it just by plugging in a computer or by actually physically taking a look at the internals? I really enjoy your videos by the way, keep it up!
Not all M3's have quad exhaust for example the E36 M3 and the E30 M3 didn't have quad exhaust.
Ah man this car is amazing to me , its pretty much perfect as a summer car.
one advantage with the smg you can put your seat forward a touch, with someone
sitting in the back comfortably
I do prefer the smg to manual, but if your not use to it then you would hate it, but my gf adapted to it straight away. smg/manual it's a preference but all I can say if you own one, my god what a car
you should lift the gas when the automode is shifting... everybody knows that who drove a m3! than it's smooth as it should be
love that bmw starter
this man said herky jerky -__-
Cool Vedio
The good old normally aspirated I6 motor. My fav!
It´s the second generation SMG II. The SMG 1 was intreduced in the facelift model of the E36 M3, here in Germany.
I love that car
The transmission was shifting gears of course ;)
If I'm not mistaken, I believe the E46 M3 has the SMG II transmission and that the E36 M3 had the first gen SMG.
How to bleed SMG transmission for 2002 BMW 325i.
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How to bleed SMG transmission for 2002 BMW 325i?
EE64006. 2002 BMW 325i.
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but if you had to choose would you go with the smg or the manual?
I don't really understand why you are surprised that the shifting isn't smooth? It is a manual transmission with automated engagement. If you were driving a 6MT you would still be jerking around just as much during aggressive gear changes, only you wouldn't notice it because you would actually be doing the shifting yourself. SMG should not ever be compared to a typical torque-converter auto.
There'a also S6 SMG mode if you turn of DSC traction control system.
smg best gear box ever there is 2 more setings if you take the traccion contol off and also a they have a lunch control
My E46 M3 SMG is smooth as silk in auto and sequential modes. Get the software update and its like a new car!
Actually, the rear seats in the E46 M3 (I own one) is really good for a coupe. I am 6'5", and I have taken a road trip from San Diego, CA to Phoenix, AZ, with my sister in the passenger seat, and my two nephews in the back seats, aged at 25yrs, 11yrs, and 9yrs old, and it was just fine. I was pretty amazed at how comfortable we all were, and that I could take all of our luggage in the trunk just fine (we packed normally too, not lightly). I have also had my friend drive my car, and rode in the back, and I fit fine with the front seat forward a little, but the person in the passenger seat still had plenty of legroom up front. Also, the rear headroom is good too.
Yea im 6"1 and if you are our height and above usually it can lead to trouble in backseats, but this wasnt that bad
Yes it did, the European E46 M3 is 343 BHP & the US version is 333 BHP.
E60 M5 will always be my dream BMW
No disrespect, I love youre reviews and everything( I personaly think that youre better than american top gear) but youre wrong about the transmision.The SMG is a more track purpuse transmision, it gives you a raw feel of the change, it doesn't care if youre uncomfortable, it just wants to get you fast to 60.I personaly prefer an unpluged manual. Nice videos btw and keep up the good work.Subscribed ;)
This is a old video he has came a long way
Blast from the past
hey when you were driving in the paddle shift mode what shift severity (those buttons by the gearbox thing) setting was it in (1-5)
Actually S mode are the manual modes, E automatic. You had it right the first time.
get your facts straight before doing a review.....
I know I'm late but, thanks for your comment. it saved me 14mins of my life :)
Well presented review, but you were obviously ill-informed about the vehicle. It doesn't take much time to do a little research mate.
Keep in mind that is also the cabriolet, which is much slower than the coupe version due to the weight difference. However, a 335i is as fast as the M3 coupe in a straight line, but the M3 was never about straight line performance alone.
Take it around the track and there are not many cars that will be as fun or as fast to drive, especially with cars in the ~$20k price tag, which is what the E46 M3 is going for these days.
Is SMG same as DCT ? what's the difference ?
Did we say that in the video? How did you know? lol
How the power delivery at say a Red Light launch? In the corners? Drifting? Cause if its not enoguh Im puttin Dinan Stage 4 tune in
Also, it wasn't one of the first SMG gearboxes at all. Ferrari had been making SMG gearboxes since the late 80's with the clutchless manual and the 355 F1!
Actually BMW beat Ferrari to the punch; smg was marketed before Ferrari's F1 system.
That SMG transmission was famously a dog - this is about the kindest review of it out there.
I think you had the smg in the 5th ferocity setting in automatic mode because every other review I've seen of this car doesn't show drivers jerking like this. Or that E46 has some serious gearbox issues as alot of them do.
"...you can't really put people back here, unless you really hate them."
That's EXACTLY what coupes are for.
Ps SMG is far more fun than a manual and I have owned both. Having said that if the SMG fails you will have a big bill. The SMG shifts more aggressively
reliability?
Technically then, it's NOT an automatic trans. It's an automated manual or sequential manual transmission, sometimes called "semi-automatic" transmission, or some what erroneously, "clutchless manual" transmission.
New at the time? SMG has been around since 1996.
Would you rather prefer a car that does all the work for you and suppresses all the fun of driver a racer car or get the real feel and thrill of driving a car like that?
Actually, the SMG has 6 settings in S mode not 5. But for S6 setting you must turn off the DSC.
nice car, but hate that grey leather
its much better in person
Navigation was available way back in the 90s.
dude i live right down the road from you! near mason district!
Miss my 04 :(
Should I buy a hard top smg for $20k with 50k miles?
I figured because the summer is coming, I wouldnt mind a breeze. Lol
totally agree
e46 m3 started production 01-06 not 05
The secret to driving the SMG is too drive exactly like a manual let go off the gas when shifting and blip the throttle when downshifting and don’t ride the clutch when waiting on a hill, it has the same transmission as the 6speed one expect the clutch and shifting is controlled by a computer hydraulic system
Aluminum and wood were options on the E46 M3
The car was probably shaking because the SMG pump needed to be replaced, probably why the owner sold the car. For a car that sold so much you would think BMW would've released a recall notice.
It’s shaking because he’s letting off the gas in a manual car it will jerk forward unless you are smooth
im a 6MT guy but u really shuda learned the gearbox. it is a true manual with a computer clutch. u need to drive it like a true manual and set the modes right. if u had put it on thr most aggressive setting, it wud be shift super smooth. if u need an auto, go for it but this is one of the greatest drivers car. u need a 6 speed manual with a clutch in coupe form. find one and revew it. u wudnt want anything else trust me. had mine for 4 years now and cant keep da keys outta my pocket.
It's not a jerky transmission , the thing is that it shift's gears like it's a manual . It's an old mans smooth cars that shift so smooth , not sports cars . This is how it was then , not now .
This guy definitely needs to know how to drive the smg transmission!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
2004 745Li, or 2002 M3 Convertible/Coupe. Cant decide between the 2.
So from the comments below me this guy seemed like he did not know how to work the smg transmission. Im planning on getting an m3 too and if i end up getting an smg, can someone give me a tip on how to start learning the smg the proper way or is there a video that shows how to properly use the smg? Because i realy want to get this m3. If i cant get a manual i need to learn how to work the smg cuz i do not want that shit to break down heard its expensive to fix. Thank you.
Just drive exactly like a manual and you will love it, you can convert to a true manual too for about $2300 at a shop, you just have to modify the bellhousing and put the shift assembly in.
i keed seeing this in the background of other vids
What other cars have an 8000 rpm
By the way, the sunglasses compartment thing under the temperature control unit is upside down.
Some of your information isn't correct, let me explain.
The E46 M3 was actually made from 2001-2006. The E9X M3 began in 2008.
And the reason why the SMG transmission seems "jerky" is because well, read it "Sequential MANUAL Gearbox" the the transmission is indeed a manual with a computer controlled clutch not an automatic. That's why you seem to find it jerky, you can't make a manual transmission smooth in between gears.
If you wanted it smoother, adjust it using the bars under the shifter.
Never liked the E36 M3, but I love the E39 M5. Current M models, I couldn't care less about.
Seems like I would get a headache just trying to shift
there is storage in the armwrest
Actually neither of them have an actual 8000rpm redline. The E46 M3 has it at 7900rpm, the 8th gen Civic Si has it at 7800rpm.
SMGs are really terrible on the road as a daily driver, but are excellent on the track. If you plan on driving this as a daily driver, get the manual.
Jarek Jellison i have the smg as a daily and i personally love it but i think i'm a little biased. noted that i don't ever really experience bumper to bumper traffic at all so i can't really say anything about that. even though it's a good transmission i still plan on 6 speed swapping when he pump goes out again.
did you forget to put the level up in the transmission for s maybe that's why the gears a shifting funny and your heads jerking
this guy has no idea what he is talking about. Make Honda reviews instead.
Just searched around and apparently it has a 6600rpm redline. Not sure about the new one (2015).
Sof this model went from 2001-2006..for E46 M3 and navigation was available since 2000 and the coupes have a bit more room in back also 19inch wheels were optional..6sp manual all the way...smoother and more responsive
Just give it the manual for this gen and call it a day, although the modern SMG is much improved
I have a question.
You say the transmission is horribly jerky, and I can see it is, but which one of the 5 shifting programs are you in?
I can't imagine it's this jerky in the S1 program.
S3 and up are ment for spirited driving shall we say. Driving it normally in those modes will result in horrible jerkyness because you're telling it you're gonna give it the beans and then you don't.