I have to admit when I saw Bose, I immediately had a very bad reaction. Then I remembered that this is a thread about pianos and that's short for Bosendorfer :-) :-)
Classic Tori Amos right there. She’ll take what most see as a basic give and take between you and the instrument and expand it to something cosmic. She never disappoints in word or playing.
The sound of a particular piano is a personal choice. After listening to several different pianos, I chose a Bosendorfer for the depth, warmth and quality of her sound. We have a 1906 pianoforte that was fully restored by a German piano maker, Jen Uwe Witter. She is in climate controlled storage for the past 3 years - I miss her.
If you can afford it and you play music from all eras of music, you should own a modern concert grand, a mid 1800s grand, a pianoforte, a harpsichord (or two, they can vary so much) and a clavichord. Perhaps an organ for good measure. Lol. Honestly, the idea that musicians should just be playing on modern instruments should be challenged. Moving forward, more artists ought to play on historical instruments as well as modern ones.
2:24 Very important point about the differences of these pianos to many others. The rim adds to the residence where is in many other pianos it is too solid probably to increase the volume or brightness of the piano. But in Bosendorfers you have more interest in the tone quality than many other pianos which are themselves constructed to project at the cost of tonal subtlety.
I've got a Bösendorfer sample on my Nord Piano 3 and Its one of my favourites. I unfortunately haven't had the opportunity to play one in real life but I feel like this is going to be the brand I'll put in my house someday.
I'm a guitarist, but pianos fascinate me. Seeing the differences in approach between, say, Steinway and Bosendorfer, or Yamaha and Baldwin... very interesting.
I wanna buy a stienway in the future. Stein way is my favorite acoustic. Yamaha is great too I have a digital piano. I played on a grand Baldwin in my school its not bad but I would prefer steinway or yamaha. I've never heard of bosendorfer so this video was cool.
Bösendorfer is one of the oldest piano manufacturers in the world. Steinway also has a long tradition, starting to produce in 1853, in New York. The Bosendorfer Imperial is the top of line, with a length of 290cm and 97 keys (complete bottom octave). Bösendorfer pianos are real pieces of art as you can see in the video, but they have a big problem and that’s why you don’t really see them in concert halls. The problem is the volume. Bösendorfers have always been been considered as quiet pianos, so they may not be heard properly from every corner of the hall. The concert halls that do have a Bösendorfer almost always have another 2 Steinways. Steinway & Sons pianos have become somewhat of a standard for concert grands. This is not just because of the sound, it is also because of the popularity and support. Steinway being a well known company, it has a piano centre in almost every country and that makes things easier. In terms of production, Steinways are produced on a much larger scale in the two factories. To see the building process and much more, I strongly suggest you watch the documentary “The making of L1037”. Personally, I believe pianos are as different as people. They are all pianos, but each one has its own personality, its own timbre and tone. That’s what makes the game interesting. I played on a large number of instruments and I can say that each and every one of them was nothing like the one before. Even from Steinway to Steinway or from Bösendorfer to Bösendorfer. Each pianist has to find the right piano for them.
@@HMCuber Our church has a ~50yo Baldwin that sounds HUGE for a small grand. It's also built like the Rock of Gibraltar; no piano that small should be that heavy! :D
@@oliversusnea2415 I watched the Steinway video before watching this one; in fact, it's what prompted me to do the searching that led me to this video. :)
All i want to say is, the modified Bosendorfer that was used to play and record the rolls recorded by Rachmaninov is the most noble piano sound of any piano, in the CD series : "A window in Time".
12:01 Tori Amos might have said it best here! And it wasn't that unexpected from a seemingly formal procedural video? Kudos to Bosendorpher for bringing in all generations!
I couldn’t agree more, although I’m just an amateur, and nowhere near the classical pianist, the one time I got to play one of these magnificent instruments, I was in heaven! Everything about it is absolutely perfect in every way. The sound quality is second to none, it has the richest days tones in the sharpest hi Charles, as well as all the towns in between, which together form a sound so beautiful and so unique, that it feels any room it’s in with absolutely breathtaking sound no other company could even come close to duplicating. Unfortunately, the one big drawback is the price tag, especially for the average person, and in my case, somebody who is forced to live on long-term disability, will forever remain out of my reach. I commented on another video comparing pianos, so to sum up what I said there, the one time I’ve got to play one of these beautiful instruments was at the University of Toronto, while I was waiting for a friend to finish her piano class. Right next to the room she was in was one of these beauties sitting all alone in a big empty room, and I simply could not help myself. I was in love from the very first keystroke, it’s Unlike any piano I’ve ever played in my life, and I almost cried having to leave it behind and go home, especially when the teacher told me that I was the very first person to ever play that particular instrument. They had just got it the day before, and we’re about to use it for recital that evening. She wasn’t very happy that I had sat down and started playing, Especially given my very poor playing skills, they had it just sitting there in the open, I swear to god it called to me, so I answered, and played as long as I was able to. It wasn’t until the teacher told me how much do university had paid for this piano. She told me they paid $400,000 Canadian, that’s a little more than my cheesy Yamaha digital keyboard! LOL! But if you ever get the chance to play one of these instruments, I promise you that once you’ve played it, you will never ever want to touch another piano, because this is heaven on earth, and after watching this video I can understand why it is so expensive, it’s true that you get what you pay for, and this piano is worth every penny and then some.
A lot of love & care obviously goes into all their pianos, my daughter loves playing the piano, I would love one ❤ for my cute 😍 talented daughter ❤ please send one 😉 that really would make her day 😊
De France. BRAVOS !!!!!!!! à tous les personnels et techniciens de la fabrique de pianos Bosendorfer qui par leur travail produisent des instruments de qualité et contribuent à la réputation des artistes les utilisant tel que la Divine Tori Amos.
I tried Bosendorfer, playing Mozart. The perect match. I had the feeling that the B was a beautiful sensitive responsive woman who enlarged my feeble ability with a generous offering of tone and sound. I could hardly tear myself away. But sadly, the price was than beyond my means. I also love Steinway, to pursue the analogy, a more masculine encounter, like an adversary or opponent who rises to whatever level you can reach but is not reassuring if you can't keep up. Yin and Yang? You can pound the Hell out of a Steinway without qualm. But you need to caress the B even at volume to get the magic she offers her true lovers. Sounds a bit crazy, but people who play will understand.
I know what you mean. I felt like I had to wrangle my old Steinway it but I think it was because it was a old piano from the 40s. The tone was too bright due to worn hammers. Oddly playing fast pieces was easier and sounded better than other pianos
From the moment I touched her silky keys she responded with elegant ecstasy. Her voice, in turn, sent shivers down my back with each glissando. Her strings vibrating in response to every delicate tickling of her milky, white ivories. (Ok, I’ll stop now.) (My response to artist endorsement.)
The older Steinways are. Cant say to much about the newer ones. My aunt owns a older Steinway concert grand and has played almost every brand. I looked into the construction of the instrument. Yamaha pianos are not built so well. Cheap pinblocks, and multipart soundboards and low quality harps. They spend a lot of money on the finish, not the sound
Nice to see Tori Amos interviewed along side these other greats. I remember when she bought her Bosendorfer - a milestone because you have to be making coin to do that.
Bosendorfer con passare degli anni non è andato giù di qualità anzi è sempre meglio in tutti i sensi perché la cosa importante è che c’è tanto lavoro manuale, no machine ma energie umane. Amo Bosendorfer .
“Ach du lieber, mein schatz”!!! I’m 82 now, & haven’t played a note since I “had to” enlist in the Air Force Reserves in 1963 to avoid being “drafted”! One of the biggest mistakes of my life, not getting back into the piano!!! My biggest desire when I did play was to play my beloved classical music on an 11 1/2ft Bosendorfer. Years ago I found out that Bosendorfer only made a 9ft (?) Imperial Grand as their biggest!! But I still would have loved to have “pounded the ivories” on one of these!!! The great great piano concertos (especially those of Rachmaninov) were & still are my greatest loves in my life, at least to listen to & dream now! Very very sorry to hear “way too much jazz stuff” on this video than what a Bosendorfer was made to play, CLASSICAL MUSIC!!! The producer of this video really did a “less than good job (like LOUSY!)” of showing what a Bosendorfer was meant to do!!! If I were the Bosendorfer CEO, I never would have let this video go out this way!!! Did the CEO actually approve this video??? I suspect the workers at Bosendorfer would agree! Maybe a GOOD Bosendorfer video will eventually be on the way. But it had better be “OVERWHELMED” with the great piano music a Bosendorfer was meant to play!!! “Gesundheit”!
About $150,000 for a Steinway Model D and about $210,000 for a Bösendorfer 280VC. They are both superb pianos and anyone who gets to play either should consider themselves very lucky.
@@mauritiusdunfagel9473 Have you listened to Jacob Collier, Cory Henry, Jesus Molina, Domi, Tigran Hamasyan,... ? They are outstanding pianists. Their music and the instrument compliment each-other in a really beautiful way. If you refer to pop music or other music, please don't try to throw every music genre into the same pot, because that is simply not true. There has been and will ever be mainstream music that enjoys the masses and music that only a rather small group of people listens to and they both have a right to be were they are.
Ward de jager+ Yeah, but they still make them in the same way and in the same place, so it's still one of the finest pianos you can buy. You think Yamaha are stupid enough to spoil the company they bought? I don't think so. Yamaha bought Bosendorfer to make a profit and learn from their craftsmen so that maybe Yamaha branded pianos could get better. A sound investment all round.
Stenway was owned by CBS for many years and others. These companies have been around for centuries and they just can't stay independent all the time. Yamaha is btw a phenomenal music company
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This is a fantastic video. I love the jazz piano in the background in the first five minutes. Do you have any reference to the artists? I especially like the rendition of Prelude and Fugue in C Major. Could you provide credits? Thanks!
There's so many people coming by to criticize and talk about how Steinway pianos are better. Like, can't we just enjoy pianos without having to bicker among each other? It's supposed to be a passion where we can relax after all.
The truth is that Bösendorfer shoots itself in the foot somewhat by it's stubborn adherence to an old inefficient acoustical design strategy. That thin rim for instance saps acoustical energy from the sound board. The most recent Bechsteins however have combined all the breakthroughs by Steinway and others into their complete reimagining of their stodgy old design and so has perhaps eclipsed Fazioli.
These have amazing sound but compare this video to the Steinway case building process which takes 7 men not two to mold the body. Maybe it's a personal choice but the case on the Steinway is a far more impressive design and build.
Well, it definitely wanders into some pseudo-profound and mysticism territory with some of the testimonials... But no doubt they are great sounding instruments engineered ingeniously.
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So, I keep hearing superlatives for the Bösendorfer piano in this long advertisement, including, “the best piano in the world,” and I find this very strange because I almost never see one played in the major concert halls in the world by the very top pianists in the world! And these people and places have plenty of money to purchase the best pianos. Now....why IS that?? Vladimir Horowitz always shipped his Steinway piano to Europe, even to Russia(!), when he played concerts there. Glenn Gould, when he was recording and still concertizing in NYC always went to the Steinway & Sons studio there to choose the piano he liked best. Of course, he must have kept the piano at his lake cottage for sentimental reasons, lol! Vladimir Ashkenazy and Daniel Barenboim always played Steinways in concert, and Ashkenazy had two Steinway grands in his home studio. I could go on and on, but I’ve made my point! The narrator extols Bösendorfer pianos in such as way as to suggest saying it would make it so. I don’t doubt for one minute that these pianos are anything but excellent....I just don’t understand the need for gross over statements of fact.
Steinway has a very rigid policy, musicians have to sign contracts that binds them lifelong. Friedrich Gulda had a long going court - lawsuit with Steinway, because they wanted to forbid him, to play a Bösendorfer in public... There is a reason, why they are the mass-product.
There is a section on Wikipedia titled "Steinway Artists" on the page of Steinway & Sons. It talks about how there is a monopoly going on. The reason you mostly see Steinway pianos is the same reason you mostly see Windows computers. They managed to set themselves in, so the general public believe it's the goto choice, even though it isn't. Also: "In 1972, Steinway responded to Garrick Ohlsson's statement that Bösendorfer was "the Rolls-Royce of pianos" by trucking away the Steinway-owned grand piano that Ohlsson was about to give a recital on at Alice Tully Hall in New York City. Ohlsson ended up performing on a Bösendorfer piano borrowed at the eleventh hour, and Steinway would not let him borrow Steinway-owned pianos for some time. Ohlsson has since made peace with Steinway."
There is a web page somewhere which you can find by searching "My evolution from Steinway to Blüthner", where you can read more about why you practically only ever see Steinway & Sons piano.
I feel the same way about manufacturers tooting their own horns, and stopped watching this when I heard the narrator call Bösendorfers “the Rolls Royce of the pianos.” You”re supposed to get famous pianists to say that!. Then, they allowed the video to be uploaded with a spelling error in the title! The “o” in ‘Bösendorfer’ doesn’t have an umlaut!
@@voraciousreader3341 Yeah. I actually came to dislike brands that self-promote too much, because it gets difficult to appreciate _anything_ without having some overzealous (almost cultists) fanatics bashing anything that does not comply to that point of view. I'm fine when they just say "see, they trust us to make quality stuffs", but I'm having an itching when they say "we da best dere iz!"
Why would the narrator for a video on an Austrian piano pronounce Bach as Back??! Especially when she knows enough to say Bösendorfer, not Boozendorfer...
12:10 - Tori Amos is like that pothead aunt that grew up in the 1960's and never quite escaped that era, still saying utterly goofy weird weed brained statements that leave you scratching your head like "uhhhhhh what???"
While I don't doubt for a moment that Bösendorfer make fantastic pianos and I'd absolutely love one, I think Steinway might have something to say about the breezy claim that Bösendorfer is acknowledged as making the finest pianos.
There are a number of companies that make the best pianos, and Bösendorfer are definitely one of them. Steinway aren't THE best, they are ONE OF the best, and anything else is hype. After looking at the quality of Bösendorfer, Steinway, Bechstein, Stuart & Sons, Kawai and others you can only admire them all. After that it is a matter of personal preference. Steinway have managed to persuade a lot of people that nobody makes pianos as well as they do but that is not true, it is hype. I am not knocking Steinway, they make some of the best too, but they aren't the only company doing it that well.
+FireAngel Londoner, true, I've watched the Steinway & Sons production video and must say, Bösendorfer's attention to detail seems superior. They also employ a few unique manufacturing processes not shared by Steinway & Sons. The Bösendorfer also seems to have a more rounded and colourful sound. Professional pianists would probably be best equipped to provide an honest opinion.
FireAngel Londoner I totally agree. There are about 7 or maybe more other brands that are among the best pianos. I'd specify Shigeru Kawai is one of them, but yes, they are the high-end division of Kawai. I'm very happy to see more of the other pianos being played a piano competitions and being recorded and performed on these days. Visionery1 Professional pianists will give their opinions. Technicians who work on, regulate and voice the pianos have somewhat more objective and very interesting comments on pianos often.
Benjamin Smith Oh yes, marketing and sales say whatever they want, that is their job. But once you work on them you know all the dirty secrets. And some have more dirty secrets than others.
Very well put. Couldn't agree more. The point they both have in common is that they are according to high teutonic standards. The Bösendorfer was an Imperial piano made originally for the courts. Steinway moved from Germany to New York in 1853 (after having made only 450 "Kitchen Pianos"). Totally different story. Steinway (Heinrich Steinwig by his true name) has a very aggressive sales policy.
Let us not forget that the late, wonderful, Victor Borge played a Bosendorfer. Great memories of him playing Claire de Lune on that piano.
Another in our family Service history, Victor B!
I’m grateful and humbled to be the new owner of a 1968 Bose 200…as a pianist and working musician, it’s surreal
Great vintage for Bösendorfer!
I have to admit when I saw Bose, I immediately had a very bad reaction. Then I remembered that this is a thread about pianos and that's short for Bosendorfer :-) :-)
Classic Tori Amos right there. She’ll take what most see as a basic give and take between you and the instrument and expand it to something cosmic.
She never disappoints in word or playing.
The sound of a particular piano is a personal choice. After listening to several different pianos, I chose a Bosendorfer for the depth, warmth and quality of her sound. We have a 1906 pianoforte that was fully restored by a German piano maker, Jen Uwe Witter. She is in climate controlled storage for the past 3 years - I miss her.
If you can afford it and you play music from all eras of music, you should own a modern concert grand, a mid 1800s grand, a pianoforte, a harpsichord (or two, they can vary so much) and a clavichord. Perhaps an organ for good measure. Lol.
Honestly, the idea that musicians should just be playing on modern instruments should be challenged. Moving forward, more artists ought to play on historical instruments as well as modern ones.
2:24 Very important point about the differences of these pianos to many others. The rim adds to the residence where is in many other pianos it is too solid probably to increase the volume or brightness of the piano. But in Bosendorfers you have more interest in the tone quality than many other pianos which are themselves constructed to project at the cost of tonal subtlety.
I've got a Bösendorfer sample on my Nord Piano 3 and Its one of my favourites. I unfortunately haven't had the opportunity to play one in real life but I feel like this is going to be the brand I'll put in my house someday.
I could only hope to play one of these magnificent instruments!❤❤❤
I'm a guitarist, but pianos fascinate me. Seeing the differences in approach between, say, Steinway and Bosendorfer, or Yamaha and Baldwin... very interesting.
I wanna buy a stienway in the future. Stein way is my favorite acoustic. Yamaha is great too I have a digital piano. I played on a grand Baldwin in my school its not bad but I would prefer steinway or yamaha. I've never heard of bosendorfer so this video was cool.
Bösendorfer is one of the oldest piano manufacturers in the world. Steinway also has a long tradition, starting to produce in 1853, in New York. The Bosendorfer Imperial is the top of line, with a length of 290cm and 97 keys (complete bottom octave). Bösendorfer pianos are real pieces of art as you can see in the video, but they have a big problem and that’s why you don’t really see them in concert halls. The problem is the volume. Bösendorfers have always been been considered as quiet pianos, so they may not be heard properly from every corner of the hall. The concert halls that do have a Bösendorfer almost always have another 2 Steinways. Steinway & Sons pianos have become somewhat of a standard for concert grands. This is not just because of the sound, it is also because of the popularity and support. Steinway being a well known company, it has a piano centre in almost every country and that makes things easier. In terms of production, Steinways are produced on a much larger scale in the two factories. To see the building process and much more, I strongly suggest you watch the documentary “The making of L1037”. Personally, I believe pianos are as different as people. They are all pianos, but each one has its own personality, its own timbre and tone. That’s what makes the game interesting. I played on a large number of instruments and I can say that each and every one of them was nothing like the one before. Even from Steinway to Steinway or from Bösendorfer to Bösendorfer. Each pianist has to find the right piano for them.
@@HMCuber Our church has a ~50yo Baldwin that sounds HUGE for a small grand. It's also built like the Rock of Gibraltar; no piano that small should be that heavy! :D
@@oliversusnea2415 I watched the Steinway video before watching this one; in fact, it's what prompted me to do the searching that led me to this video. :)
Thanks, Oliver
Now owned by Yamaha and still making glorious pianos.
I love my Performance tech work on them very frequently. Dad also did, personally, for Van Cliburn and many others. Böz is my All-Time Fav. Cert.Tech
All i want to say is, the modified Bosendorfer that was used to play and record the rolls recorded by Rachmaninov is the most noble piano sound of any piano, in the CD series : "A window in Time".
12:01 Tori Amos might have said it best here! And it wasn't that unexpected from a seemingly formal procedural video? Kudos to Bosendorpher for bringing in all generations!
Absolutely fascinating.
Bosendorfer, along with Steinway (Hamburg) and Bechstein IMO is like the Three European Royalties of Piano.
Fazioli is by far the greatest piano in the world
Don't forget about Blüthner!
_The Big Four,_ aka. Bechstein, Blüthner, Bösendorfer and Steinway & Sons
I couldn’t agree more, although I’m just an amateur, and nowhere near the classical pianist, the one time I got to play one of these magnificent instruments, I was in heaven! Everything about it is absolutely perfect in every way. The sound quality is second to none, it has the richest days tones in the sharpest hi Charles, as well as all the towns in between, which together form a sound so beautiful and so unique, that it feels any room it’s in with absolutely breathtaking sound no other company could even come close to duplicating. Unfortunately, the one big drawback is the price tag, especially for the average person, and in my case, somebody who is forced to live on long-term disability, will forever remain out of my reach. I commented on another video comparing pianos, so to sum up what I said there, the one time I’ve got to play one of these beautiful instruments was at the University of Toronto, while I was waiting for a friend to finish her piano class. Right next to the room she was in was one of these beauties sitting all alone in a big empty room, and I simply could not help myself. I was in love from the very first keystroke, it’s Unlike any piano I’ve ever played in my life, and I almost cried having to leave it behind and go home, especially when the teacher told me that I was the very first person to ever play that particular instrument. They had just got it the day before, and we’re about to use it for recital that evening. She wasn’t very happy that I had sat down and started playing, Especially given my very poor playing skills, they had it just sitting there in the open, I swear to god it called to me, so I answered, and played as long as I was able to. It wasn’t until the teacher told me how much do university had paid for this piano. She told me they paid $400,000 Canadian, that’s a little more than my cheesy Yamaha digital keyboard! LOL! But if you ever get the chance to play one of these instruments, I promise you that once you’ve played it, you will never ever want to touch another piano, because this is heaven on earth, and after watching this video I can understand why it is so expensive, it’s true that you get what you pay for, and this piano is worth every penny and then some.
Beautiful! 🎹🎹🎹
Nothing sounds better than a Bösendorfer piano... 💯☮️🔥
Karl Miller yes... Two Bösendorfer pianos :D
Jannis OFC imperial Bosendorfer can Beat all of Steinway series
They're nice, but personally I prefer the tonal qualities of Blüthner, and Baldwin is another favorite.
@@rbrtck How would you describe the sound of a Baldwin feels like? I never got to find one, let alone hear one.
lets just agree that the bösendorfer is a great piano.
Wonderful video! Thanks for posting and sharing!
A lot of love & care obviously goes into all their pianos, my daughter loves playing the piano, I would love one ❤ for my cute 😍 talented daughter ❤ please send one 😉 that really would make her day 😊
Very impressive pianos!
Wonderful. My favorite piano.
I’m the proud owner of a Bösendorfer 170. I couldn’t be happier.
one of my friends has a Bösendorfer Upright at home and it sounds realey great
Tori at 12:05-12:50! The Bösendorfer sure is an appendage or rather a transcending medium that can reach from one being to another. Love this video. ❤
Anything seems possible when you're high as a kite like she apparently is. :D
Even the strings are made by hand! Geez guys, you are something else.
De France.
BRAVOS !!!!!!!! à tous les personnels et techniciens de la fabrique de pianos Bosendorfer qui par leur travail produisent des instruments de qualité et contribuent à la réputation des artistes les utilisant tel que la Divine Tori Amos.
Congrats Bosendorfer, You have been preserved in Grand series of Yamaha such as Clavinova.
this is called innovation
I tried Bosendorfer, playing Mozart. The perect match. I had the feeling that the B was a beautiful sensitive responsive woman who enlarged my feeble ability with a generous offering of tone and sound. I could hardly tear myself away. But sadly, the price was than beyond my means. I also love Steinway, to pursue the analogy, a more masculine encounter, like an adversary or opponent who rises to whatever level you can reach but is not reassuring if you can't keep up. Yin and Yang? You can pound the Hell out of a Steinway without qualm. But you need to caress the B even at volume to get the magic she offers her true lovers. Sounds a bit crazy, but people who play will understand.
I know what you mean. I felt like I had to wrangle my old Steinway it but I think it was because it was a old piano from the 40s. The tone was too bright due to worn hammers. Oddly playing fast pieces was easier and sounded better than other pianos
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I was once fortunate enough to play a Mozart Sonata (K333) on a Boesendorfer and it was magnificent. It was like it was built to play Mozart.
@@cody7889 Austrian piano for an Austrian composer
Valentina Lisitsa !.............und Bösendorfer , Fantastisch , .........
I love the jazz music that plays in the background, I bet the piano was a Bosendorfer as well!
Oscar Peterson
@@phyllispetras3369 Oh really? Cool! Do you perhaps know what song he was playing?
From the moment I touched her silky keys she responded with elegant ecstasy. Her voice, in turn, sent shivers down my back with each glissando. Her strings vibrating in response to every delicate tickling of her milky, white ivories. (Ok, I’ll stop now.) (My response to artist endorsement.)
Nice to see alot of fairly young people wotking there
These pianos...fantastic, sound like an angel,being severly spanked, totally unique.
The sound of this piano is unique😱😱😱
And the price tooo... $$$
LOL
Ahí vive mi yerno. Mi hija en Zurich. Thank you! I appreciate it!
When I see "bösendorfer" I always think about Valentina Lisitsa
She's playing a Steinway now.
Her latest video: th-cam.com/video/CiZDxkoojVA/w-d-xo.html
The wall-to-wall music track (piano) drove me right off of the site.
Can you get them with twin carburettors?
Steinway dries their lumber inside and out as well, just thought I'd note that
All lumber is dried outside before milling.
Perhaps the only similarity.
I'm confused, Steinway claimed that they are the Rolls Royce of Grand Piano 😁
Funny you should say that as Yamaha claims the very same thing...
Steinway is a mass product. And way cheaper.
The older Steinways are. Cant say to much about the newer ones. My aunt owns a older Steinway concert grand and has played almost every brand. I looked into the construction of the instrument. Yamaha pianos are not built so well. Cheap pinblocks, and multipart soundboards and low quality harps. They spend a lot of money on the finish, not the sound
Nice to see Tori Amos interviewed along side these other greats. I remember when she bought her Bosendorfer - a milestone because you have to be making coin to do that.
I never wrote this comment, why is my name here...
@@garrisonwatson8927 : Your name isn’t. “Gary” wrote that, not “Garrison”. If you feel wronged, hit up TH-cam admins and file a complaint.
I’ve seen her live a few times and she puts that brand through its paces for sure.
@@Rockin_Ross no the message was not from me everything from me is Garrison watson...
@@Rockin_Ross in life every calls me Gary Watson however the text was not from me on here I'm Garrison...
Very good to see men and women making these pianos, and not machines.
White men and women*
It's almost like Austria is 90% white.
Humans can never reach machine perfection
Machines can never achieve human judgement
But, they ARE machines. I mean that in the best sense of the word.
Bosendorfer con passare degli anni non è andato giù di qualità anzi è sempre meglio in tutti i sensi perché la cosa importante è che c’è tanto lavoro manuale, no machine ma energie umane. Amo Bosendorfer .
Andreas Schiff takes his wherever he goes….beautiful instrument.
“Ach du lieber, mein schatz”!!! I’m 82 now, & haven’t played a note since I “had to” enlist in the Air Force Reserves in 1963 to avoid being “drafted”! One of the biggest mistakes of my life, not getting back into the piano!!! My biggest desire when I did play was to play my beloved classical music on an 11 1/2ft Bosendorfer. Years ago I found out that Bosendorfer only made a 9ft (?) Imperial Grand as their biggest!! But I still would have loved to have “pounded the ivories” on one of these!!! The great great piano concertos (especially those of Rachmaninov) were & still are my greatest loves in my life, at least to listen to & dream now! Very very sorry to hear “way too much jazz stuff” on this video than what a Bosendorfer was made to play, CLASSICAL MUSIC!!! The producer of this video really did a “less than good job (like LOUSY!)” of showing what a Bosendorfer was meant to do!!! If I were the Bosendorfer CEO, I never would have let this video go out this way!!! Did the CEO actually approve this video??? I suspect the workers at Bosendorfer would agree! Maybe a GOOD Bosendorfer video will eventually be on the way. But it had better be “OVERWHELMED” with the great piano music a Bosendorfer was meant to play!!! “Gesundheit”!
I have an antique Steinway upright, absolutely exquisite. I would however, love a Bosendofer.
You should try and play a Steinway concert grand, simply an awesome instrument..my aunt owns one
Wow, the sound is so much deeper, richer in the sound. I thought Steinway was great but I am sure its so much more expensive, right?
About $150,000 for a Steinway Model D and about $210,000 for a Bösendorfer 280VC.
They are both superb pianos and anyone who gets to play either should consider themselves very lucky.
Pierre cim Which costs $350,000?
praestant8 I think the Bosendorfer Imperial Grand (has an extra octave) can go for around half a million US$ !!!
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I wonder how manual sanding, drilling, and finishing of the frame changes the sound.
Bosendorfer Bechenstien, along with Steinway and sons, are certainly world calls in that order
So first question... can I live in this? Second question why does it cost more than a house
bobfive5 boi Because they are hand made and only 300 are prodced each year.
The musical instruments being produced today are better than the music being produced.
ok boomer.
Then you dont listen to the right music.
Have you had your ears checked?
Michael Udeze Yes. I’m a musicologist!
@@mauritiusdunfagel9473 Have you listened to Jacob Collier, Cory Henry, Jesus Molina, Domi, Tigran Hamasyan,... ? They are outstanding pianists. Their music and the instrument compliment each-other in a really beautiful way.
If you refer to pop music or other music, please don't try to throw every music genre into the same pot, because that is simply not true.
There has been and will ever be mainstream music that enjoys the masses and music that only a rather small group of people listens to and they both have a right to be were they are.
0:52 so traditional they still use Roman numerals lol
Why is that funny? Roman numerals are still used in many places and under many circumstances.
@@quaver1239 They found the funny
Yes, beautiful lettering AND yet very readable! Speaks “CLASS”!!!
I could imagine if one wished to get a rise out any group of pianists. One need only ask them which piano they deem best, Bosendorfer or Steinway? o~0
Good piano ! I also like Steinway&Sons
I can’t afford to have an affair with this piano!
Owned by a group of banks. Wow!
whaoOo ! un seul mot : grand !
what piece is oliver kern playing towards the end?
Billy Joel...bashing the piano?! But, seriously, absolute works of art in the making of it, and of musical artistry.
Austria's answer to America's Steinway
I’ll be to scared to even touch the piano
Vienna rules!
Owned by YAMAHA !!
they actually know whats good
Ward de jager+ Yeah, but they still make them in the same way and in the same place, so it's still one of the finest pianos you can buy. You think Yamaha are stupid enough to spoil the company they bought? I don't think so. Yamaha bought Bosendorfer to make a profit and learn from their craftsmen so that maybe Yamaha branded pianos could get better. A sound investment all round.
So what?..
Stenway was owned by CBS for many years and others. These companies have been around for centuries and they just can't stay independent all the time. Yamaha is btw a phenomenal music company
so? BMW owns Rolls Royce, Audi owns Lamboghini; Ducati, VW owns Bentley; Bugatti...... do they cheapen the brands or made them better?
@7:02 isn’t that supposed to be an open-faced pinblock?
Very skilful craftsmen and we'll made piano 🌈
Hello Harmony Star Studio why couldn't you Try Remaking A Daddy Grand Piano
by putting on 88 Tuning Forks like what you did on an Upright Piano,
Please do the Same Thing on a Daddy Grand Piano For Most of us
TH-camrs, It will be a much Better Idea For us so we can Try and See
and Hear It Harmony Star Studio Thank You.
This is a fantastic video. I love the jazz piano in the background in the first five minutes. Do you have any reference to the artists? I especially like the rendition of Prelude and Fugue in C Major. Could you provide credits? Thanks!
Jacques Loussier Trio plays Bach.
Bravo Monsieur, vous avez trouvé. Well done old chap.
Mr. Dexter Keefer - Don’t think you know or appreciate GOOD MUSIC from FAT MEAT!
This was the "Game Boy" of back in the day
7:17 talk about tweaking the sound! Won't get this level on a Yamaha
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Ohh nice piano
Really superb
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There's so many people coming by to criticize and talk about how Steinway pianos are better. Like, can't we just enjoy pianos without having to bicker among each other? It's supposed to be a passion where we can relax after all.
The truth is that Bösendorfer shoots itself in the foot somewhat by it's stubborn adherence to an old inefficient acoustical design strategy. That thin rim for instance saps acoustical energy from the sound board. The most recent Bechsteins however have combined all the breakthroughs by Steinway and others into their complete reimagining of their stodgy old design and so has perhaps eclipsed Fazioli.
It was definitely worth seeing Tori-"Booze-endorfer"! 😅
The Making of a BÖsendorfer ;-)
I think the most interesting special version is the tiny one created for mini-me in Austin Powers.
I take it this video dates to the early 2000's? Anyone know for sure?
All of that information is on their fantastic website Bosendorfer.com
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These have amazing sound but compare this video to the Steinway case building process which takes 7 men not two to mold the body. Maybe it's a personal choice but the case on the Steinway is a far more impressive design and build.
Well, it definitely wanders into some pseudo-profound and mysticism territory with some of the testimonials... But no doubt they are great sounding instruments engineered ingeniously.
Hello there My name is Mr C. T. Boxill-Harris why couldn't you Try Remaking A Daddy Grand Piano by putting on 88 Tuning Forks like what you did on an Upright Piano,
Please do the Same Thing on a Daddy Grand Piano For Most of us TH-camrs, It will be a much Better Idea For us so we can Try and See and Hear Pianos with 88 Tuning Forks inside Thank You.
Blink and you'll miss it with that fast-cut video editing
4:43 is that the Bach prelude? If so, then why tf is it played so fast?
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That’s what I was thinking! Way too fast.
It is Jacques Loussier Jazz version Bach prelude 1:
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What was that I saw? A laser tuning tool
If Billy Joel can call himself a classical pianist, then you should call me Mozart.
So, I keep hearing superlatives for the Bösendorfer piano in this long advertisement, including, “the best piano in the world,” and I find this very strange because I almost never see one played in the major concert halls in the world by the very top pianists in the world! And these people and places have plenty of money to purchase the best pianos. Now....why IS that?? Vladimir Horowitz always shipped his Steinway piano to Europe, even to Russia(!), when he played concerts there. Glenn Gould, when he was recording and still concertizing in NYC always went to the Steinway & Sons studio there to choose the piano he liked best. Of course, he must have kept the piano at his lake cottage for sentimental reasons, lol! Vladimir Ashkenazy and Daniel Barenboim always played Steinways in concert, and Ashkenazy had two Steinway grands in his home studio. I could go on and on, but I’ve made my point! The narrator extols Bösendorfer pianos in such as way as to suggest saying it would make it so. I don’t doubt for one minute that these pianos are anything but excellent....I just don’t understand the need for gross over statements of fact.
Steinway has a very rigid policy, musicians have to sign contracts that binds them lifelong. Friedrich Gulda had a long going court - lawsuit with Steinway, because they wanted to forbid him, to play a Bösendorfer in public...
There is a reason, why they are the mass-product.
There is a section on Wikipedia titled "Steinway Artists" on the page of Steinway & Sons. It talks about how there is a monopoly going on.
The reason you mostly see Steinway pianos is the same reason you mostly see Windows computers. They managed to set themselves in, so the general public believe it's the goto choice, even though it isn't.
Also:
"In 1972, Steinway responded to Garrick Ohlsson's statement that Bösendorfer was "the Rolls-Royce of pianos" by trucking away the Steinway-owned grand piano that Ohlsson was about to give a recital on at Alice Tully Hall in New York City. Ohlsson ended up performing on a Bösendorfer piano borrowed at the eleventh hour, and Steinway would not let him borrow Steinway-owned pianos for some time. Ohlsson has since made peace with Steinway."
There is a web page somewhere which you can find by searching "My evolution from Steinway to Blüthner", where you can read more about why you practically only ever see Steinway & Sons piano.
I feel the same way about manufacturers tooting their own horns, and stopped watching this when I heard the narrator call Bösendorfers “the Rolls Royce of the pianos.” You”re supposed to get famous pianists to say that!. Then, they allowed the video to be uploaded with a spelling error in the title! The “o” in ‘Bösendorfer’ doesn’t have an umlaut!
@@voraciousreader3341 Yeah. I actually came to dislike brands that self-promote too much, because it gets difficult to appreciate _anything_ without having some overzealous (almost cultists) fanatics bashing anything that does not comply to that point of view.
I'm fine when they just say "see, they trust us to make quality stuffs", but I'm having an itching when they say "we da best dere iz!"
What song is at 0:18
J S Bach - Toccata and Fugue in D minor
Why would the narrator for a video on an Austrian piano pronounce Bach as Back??! Especially when she knows enough to say Bösendorfer, not Boozendorfer...
Boesendorfer, please.
Bösendorfer Imperial rules. ..!
Now owned by Yamaha -
15.22 Billy Joel plays on Steinway....always
12:10 - Tori Amos is like that pothead aunt that grew up in the 1960's and never quite escaped that era, still saying utterly goofy weird weed brained statements that leave you scratching your head like "uhhhhhh what???"
AMEN Roo H!!! You’re my kind of guy who probably likes great classical “pianner”!
But flies private and wears $2000 shoes. Lol
Wow nice to see a Japanese factory at work. BTW I have 2 imperials before you post back…. Life is sooooo good.
Your accent is very beautiful.I studied in France before.I am very romantic.
and now owned by Yamaha
Steinway y Sons
I think the background music should be Beethoven or Mozart.
Where do you start when you wanna open a piano factory? jeez....so complicated.
Try to build a birdfeeder and go from there.
While I don't doubt for a moment that Bösendorfer make fantastic pianos and I'd absolutely love one, I think Steinway might have something to say about the breezy claim that Bösendorfer is acknowledged as making the finest pianos.
There are a number of companies that make the best pianos, and Bösendorfer are definitely one of them. Steinway aren't THE best, they are ONE OF the best, and anything else is hype. After looking at the quality of Bösendorfer, Steinway, Bechstein, Stuart & Sons, Kawai and others you can only admire them all. After that it is a matter of personal preference. Steinway have managed to persuade a lot of people that nobody makes pianos as well as they do but that is not true, it is hype. I am not knocking Steinway, they make some of the best too, but they aren't the only company doing it that well.
+FireAngel Londoner, true, I've watched the Steinway & Sons production video and must say, Bösendorfer's attention to detail seems superior. They also employ a few unique manufacturing processes not shared by Steinway & Sons. The Bösendorfer also seems to have a more rounded and colourful sound. Professional pianists would probably be best equipped to provide an honest opinion.
FireAngel Londoner I totally agree. There are about 7 or maybe more other brands that are among the best pianos. I'd specify Shigeru Kawai is one of them, but yes, they are the high-end division of Kawai. I'm very happy to see more of the other pianos being played a piano competitions and being recorded and performed on these days.
Visionery1 Professional pianists will give their opinions. Technicians who work on, regulate and voice the pianos have somewhat more objective and very interesting comments on pianos often.
Benjamin Smith Oh yes, marketing and sales say whatever they want, that is their job. But once you work on them you know all the dirty secrets. And some have more dirty secrets than others.
Very well put. Couldn't agree more. The point they both have in common is that they are according to high teutonic standards. The Bösendorfer was an Imperial piano made originally for the courts. Steinway moved from Germany to New York in 1853 (after having made only 450 "Kitchen Pianos"). Totally different story. Steinway (Heinrich Steinwig by his true name) has a very aggressive sales policy.
Its a Yamaha.