One reason it's hard to find that ribbon is because the effect of the band underneath the chin and the one around the forehead was actually created by two different pieces of linen: the barbette and the headband. You'd have secured both by pinning them, the barbette coming up from under the chin, the headband winding around. They would have provided a solid foundation for a veil and wimple (one of the reasons why I find it unproductive to discuss medieval hair without a nod to what went on it -- and something went on it most of the time!).
The bit under the chin would actually have been cotton and pretty wide. It was made fashionable by a French Queen who decided she was getting a saggy chin with age so this wide bit of cotton was to hide her chin sag lol
StarlightGumiho i would like to know your source for that? im not being condesending im just wondering because most of what ive read in all my sources is that linen or wool was heavily used in the middle ages. i havent heard much about cotton
I thought the French queen in question was Eleanor of Aquitaine Queen of the French 1137-52 and then Queen of England 1154-1189 and finally died as Queen mother in 1204.
I think the thin ribbon may have been a variation. Kinda like wearing a spaghetti strap top instead of a full blouse. Maybe it was considered a scandalous option for daring young ladies? Showing off all that hair etc. barely covered, the TRAMPS!
Just a little note. At that period women didn´t have bobby pins, so they literally sew their hair with wool thread the same color of their hair (or different color if they wanted contrast). Also they could use those big hair pin (similar to needles without points)
V v late but instead of Bobby pins you can actually sew your hair in place with a blunt plastic needle and embroidery floss! This would be very period accurate as hair sewing didn't fall out of favour untill Bobby pins became cheap (but hair sewing works a lot better for holding things in place than bobby pins imo)
I think maybe the ribbon wasn't wrapped around the braid before coiling. I think it may have been sewn over/around the braid as it was being coiled, to hold the coil to the head instead of using bobby pins. I've heard this was done with crown braids, so it makes sense for ear buns too.
An interesting thing about those side buns. They are originally from Valencia, Spain and today they still wear them in the traditional outfit. They come from the ancient Iberian garments found in the 'Dama de Elche', for example. Probably became popular in the middle ages because of the comercial routes. You did them really well. Cheers!
I love these videos so much! Your videos are always a breath of fresh air bevause they're so original and informative. You can really see the effort u put into making your videos and it's much appreciated! Thanks xx
Some thought any attempt at makeup was a literal magical spell called a "glamour", which made men lose all reason and be attracted against their will. Lipstick was witchcraft.
@Rose Renee Are you kidding? :-) I would love to go back in time and dress like them! And actually, I'm a weaver and designer. The project I'm working on right now, heavily pleated skirts in Linen. But not sure yet, how the Linen will behave with Cartridge Pleats.? The skirts the ladies wore in the 18's, that come above the ankle a bit. I'll also be using Tartan Patterns in the weaving, for the multiple Clans
I can not get over how adorable and beautiful you are. I LOVE this look. Tomorrow I’m going to try out the 18th century style on my of my cosmetology manikins. I’m quite excited!
*My favourite ages are: Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, Gothic Late Medieval Time, Renaissance, Romanticism Age/Regency Era/Napoleonic Era with Neoclassicism Empire Style, Belle Époque/Edwardian Era/Giolittian Era, 1920's, 1950's, 1980's and 1990's!!! :3*
Great Tutorial! For more historical accuracy, you can stitch the buns to your scalp hair using hair-color thread and a blunt needle, since they did not use hair pins like we do nowadays.
Kind of makes sense, if you think about it. She's a space princess, so it makes sense to draw some cues from the period a lot of people associate with princesses.
I would like to know from which region you took inspiration for this piece, because hairstyle was not something that was uniform through the lands, even back then. So which country was this inspired from? Thank you!
Great video, but I had expected you to do the hair taping by sewing it. It's fun that you can get the same look this way, but sewing the ribbon on with a tapestry needle feels very secure. I know other people have mentioned this, but I wanted you to know how secure it feels.
It was so interesting to watch your video! I loved it and I wish I had long hair to do it for myself! Thank you for the very instructional video. I will sub and watch all your other vids. Good luck!
Wonderful video and so interesting! I just have one question though. Did they have bobby pins? How would they have held the buns up? It that maybe what they did with the ribbons? Like weaved it into the braids maybe? I'm just curious if you or anyone knows?
How did they alter their hairlines? Did they pluck with a "tweezer" or wax? I am curious, sources, can you recommend any books? Interesting, thanks. Namaste, Z
I've seen several of these videos...about hair, cosmetics, etc. Do you know of a video that explains the underwear of that period, including breast supports? As a seamstress I'm curious how the foundation garments of that period worked. Thanks for an interesting video.
Like most popular hairstyles in the medieval period, it was worn by everyone. Lower class women would decorate their hair with ribbons, flowers and/or a plain crispinette (basically a hair net); while wealthier women could either wear ribbons and flowers, or wear circlets and/or decorated crispinettes (sometimes adorned with pearls or other precious stones). In the 1300s, with the exception of prostitutes (who were legally forbidden), women of both classes would wear veils and/wimples as they were a popular fashion (good for bad hair days).
They actually sewed their hair back then, the ribbon would have been sewn through the bun to keep it in place, seeing as they didn't have hair ties or bobby pins.
As they had no shampoo and rarely washed. Wasn't hair really greasy? and people would have had to touch it and braid it. Wouldn't that have made it particularly hard to do hair? plus they would have had nits all the time?
+FirstRayOfSun1 Soap has been around since the Roman times :) Also, hair doesn't get as greasy when you wash it less often, some people still wash their hair with only water nowadays, you can google "no poo" to see what their hair looks like :) Like the body, the hair, when it's not touched, keeps itself clean pretty well.
+FirstRayOfSun1 Actually, dirty hair is better for styling because the oil makes it smooth and easier to work with. It also sticks together better, which prevents flyaways and allows it to stay up longer. If I cover my hair before bed, I can usually get two wearings out of it, but that works better if it's a little dirty when I first put it up. I have also heard that you produce a lot of oil in your scalp when you are constantly stripping it out with shampoo. But once you stop shampooing, the scalp will eventually stop producing an excess amount of oil and come into balance. (Whether that balance is acceptable to you depends on how naturally oily you are and whether you like hair that looks light and dry or sleek and shiny.)
They didn't have shampoo like the ones we use today, but there are actually some recipes for medieval shampoo - mostly they used stuff like dryed rose leaves, other flowers and plants, grinding and mixing them with essence of roses or other. They put the mixture on their comb or brush and combed their hair with it. It actually works pretty well :)
FirstRayOfSun1 when we say they didn't bath, it means they didnt strip down and get in a tub. It was considered important to always have a clean face and hands, and the would have noticed sweat destroying their clothing, so they probably took sponge baths frequently. As for hair, orrow root (ground up iris bulbs) was popular for preventing lice and deoderizing.
I read in some fashion book that the church figured the Virgin Mary heard gods voice and therefore got pregnant through her ears. So they told women to cover their ears with hair or veils so they didn’t get pregnant. Idk how true this is but it sounds hilarious
![[Gegagedigedagedago] NEW Help Gegagedigedagedago Nugget escape from Nikocado Avocado Challenge](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hJWnwRC2Fz8/mqdefault.jpg)
One reason it's hard to find that ribbon is because the effect of the band underneath the chin and the one around the forehead was actually created by two different pieces of linen: the barbette and the headband. You'd have secured both by pinning them, the barbette coming up from under the chin, the headband winding around. They would have provided a solid foundation for a veil and wimple (one of the reasons why I find it unproductive to discuss medieval hair without a nod to what went on it -- and something went on it most of the time!).
Otherwise known as barbette and fillet (not headband) for those that care. For those that don't... rock on! ;-)
Useful having those nice, warm ear-muffs in those drafty, cold old castles... a practical fashion !
The bit under the chin would actually have been cotton and pretty wide. It was made fashionable by a French Queen who decided she was getting a saggy chin with age so this wide bit of cotton was to hide her chin sag lol
StarlightGumiho i would like to know your source for that? im not being condesending im just wondering because most of what ive read in all my sources is that linen or wool was heavily used in the middle ages. i havent heard much about cotton
I thought the French queen in question was Eleanor of Aquitaine Queen of the French 1137-52 and then Queen of England 1154-1189 and finally died as Queen mother in 1204.
StarlightGumiho I wonder if I could bring that look back?? Hmmm? I wonder...?
I think the thin ribbon may have been a variation. Kinda like wearing a spaghetti strap top instead of a full blouse. Maybe it was considered a scandalous option for daring young ladies? Showing off all that hair etc. barely covered, the TRAMPS!
i could use a bit of chin strapping!
Huge forehead was considered beautiful? I was born in the wrong age then! 😀
Duygu Tezcan me too. lol
Duygu Tezcan big forhead=wisdom and intelligence. That's why we say "high brow" to describe things educated people are supposed to like.
I also have big forhead and the length is 7cm
That makes me think of the actress who plays Geillis Duncan on Outlander.
We all have a five-head instead of a forehead 😂😂
Just a little note. At that period women didn´t have bobby pins, so they literally sew their hair with wool thread the same color of their hair (or different color if they wanted contrast). Also they could use those big hair pin (similar to needles without points)
Thank You for answering this. I was wondering that exact thing.
I was searching this comment.
pinkyluv310 I was wondering how on earth they would pin their hair.
they had u pins, just bent metal wires that they would use to pin their hair
Def had U pins and also sewed. Some sewed with the ribbon.
V v late but instead of Bobby pins you can actually sew your hair in place with a blunt plastic needle and embroidery floss! This would be very period accurate as hair sewing didn't fall out of favour untill Bobby pins became cheap (but hair sewing works a lot better for holding things in place than bobby pins imo)
I think maybe the ribbon wasn't wrapped around the braid before coiling. I think it may have been sewn over/around the braid as it was being coiled, to hold the coil to the head instead of using bobby pins. I've heard this was done with crown braids, so it makes sense for ear buns too.
Marialla tjat makes perfect sence
So apparently Princess Leia lived in the late middle ages...well, it does say "a long time ago"!
Well Leia was created in the 20th century and this was the 15th century, so Leia hairstyle is basically a copycat lol
the title credits do begin with "a LONG time ago....", so who knows. lol
lmao
I'm. Pretty. Sure. The. Look. Was. Mid- Eval. Inspired.
Leia's hairtstyle was inspired by Mexico's female revolutionaries, or "soldaderas", from the early 1900s.
And here we are, contouring our five heads to the Gods.
An interesting thing about those side buns. They are originally from Valencia, Spain and today they still wear them in the traditional outfit. They come from the ancient Iberian garments found in the 'Dama de Elche', for example. Probably became popular in the middle ages because of the comercial routes.
You did them really well. Cheers!
I love these videos so much! Your videos are always a breath of fresh air bevause they're so original and informative. You can really see the effort u put into making your videos and it's much appreciated! Thanks xx
wow, a gift from Satan himself? that escalated quickly.
Some thought any attempt at makeup was a literal magical spell called a "glamour", which made men lose all reason and be attracted against their will. Lipstick was witchcraft.
The Devil has been around since before our existence. But didn't attack til he convinced Eve to break God's word.
@Rose Renee Are you kidding? :-) I would love to go back in time and dress like them!
And actually, I'm a weaver and designer. The project I'm working on right now, heavily pleated skirts in Linen. But not sure yet, how the Linen will behave with Cartridge Pleats.? The skirts the ladies wore in the 18's, that come above the ankle a bit. I'll also be using Tartan Patterns in the weaving, for the multiple Clans
Thanks, Satan! 😁
☦
I actually really like this look!
Teresa c ?
I can not get over how adorable and beautiful you are. I LOVE this look. Tomorrow I’m going to try out the 18th century style on my of my cosmetology manikins. I’m quite excited!
*My favourite ages are: Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, Gothic Late Medieval Time, Renaissance, Romanticism Age/Regency Era/Napoleonic Era with Neoclassicism Empire Style, Belle Époque/Edwardian Era/Giolittian Era, 1920's, 1950's, 1980's and 1990's!!! :3*
Icephoenix95: The Official Channel™ what you said and I also like how over the top the French aristocrats were
Hahaha I would have been a super mama in the middle ages with my huge forehead!. Great tutorial thanks Lucy!
I love watching your videos and your history series. You always put so much effort into them. Thank you for these! :)
This is a cute Princess Leia look!
Thank you. We are going to a medieval fair on Sunday!! January 17 in the cold in France.......great information.
Wow you are so gorgeous! Such a natural beauty, so lucky!
You should check out Janet Stephens. She has great videos on historical hairdressing :)
Your look before you add the last ribbon is really similar to Princess Leia's ! ^^
Head phone hairstyle😜❤️👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
I love watching videos like this!
This is so interesting!! I've never seen anyone doing these kind of videos. Love it :D
This is so cool and unique, I love the subject matter! Haven’t come across anything like this in youtube before. Thank you!!! :) very interesting
I'm wide awake at 5:00 in the morning but it was super nice to see one of your videos haha
omg i instantly subscribed just by the looks of the videos before watching them!
how did I not find this channel earlier!? immediately subscribed!
Great Tutorial! For more historical accuracy, you can stitch the buns to your scalp hair using hair-color thread and a blunt needle, since they did not use hair pins like we do nowadays.
I am going to try this hair style without the ribbon
Are you going to do any from the Renaissance? I'm going to a renaissance fairs and I would love some ideas!!
YsabellaSkyy Renaissance is next week! :)
I liked because i think it's verry brave of you to put yourself on youtube with this hair!
You remind me of the actress Mila Kunis. Very petty and a lovely accent too.
I LOVE THIS SERIES!!!
So basically: Leia buns?
Kind of makes sense, if you think about it. She's a space princess, so it makes sense to draw some cues from the period a lot of people associate with princesses.
Elizabeth Sullivan Exactly
What a Great Look! Would I wear this out? Yes, I think I would like that very much. I have a lot of Hair!
I would like to know from which region you took inspiration for this piece, because hairstyle was not something that was uniform through the lands, even back then. So which country was this inspired from? Thank you!
Cool video! How do you find out about how they did their hair back then?
SCAdian checking in. Love this!!
Great video, but I had expected you to do the hair taping by sewing it. It's fun that you can get the same look this way, but sewing the ribbon on with a tapestry needle feels very secure. I know other people have mentioned this, but I wanted you to know how secure it feels.
I have other videos on hair taping if you're interested, but they're even older than this one 😅
It was so interesting to watch your video! I loved it and I wish I had long hair to do it for myself! Thank you for the very instructional video. I will sub and watch all your other vids. Good luck!
I love this look. I'm actually going to do it, even if people will think I look crazy, or weird. LoL
Nice video! :) Could you please do another video with a medieval hairstyle? 14. century would be nice :)
This looks so great!!!
Could you include your sources in these videos or in the description? There are a lot of quick facts that I'd like to know more details about.
Was there bobby pins during that time? What did they use instead
Wonderful video and so interesting! I just have one question though. Did they have bobby pins? How would they have held the buns up? It that maybe what they did with the ribbons? Like weaved it into the braids maybe? I'm just curious if you or anyone knows?
Looks nice on the lady in the video. Love to know about this stuff so thanks for sharing
How did they alter their hairlines? Did they pluck with a "tweezer" or wax? I am curious, sources, can you recommend any books? Interesting, thanks. Namaste, Z
You look like Mila Kunis! You're so pretty! Also love this video!
This hairstyle suits a diamond face very well!
I wore my hair like this as a teen in the 20th century. Not the forehead and facelift ribbon though. Clever ladies.
that was actually really simple! needs more renfest!!
I've seen several of these videos...about hair, cosmetics, etc. Do you know of a video that explains the underwear of that period, including breast supports? As a seamstress I'm curious how the foundation garments of that period worked. Thanks for an interesting video.
What kind of pins would they use to hold it? If metal, what type of metal?
This gives me Leia Oregana vibes
Would you consider citing your sources? It could make it more practical for viewers to do research! :)
Those side buns stayed in style for umpteen centuries if Princess Leia still wore them.
Would this work for a mid 14th century lower class girl.
Very good video. Would be cool to see the hair style of a lady with that tall cone on her head with hair coming out of it. dank je
Was this worn by everyone or just higher class women.
I believe that the more intricate styles would be used by noblewomen and the more simple ones for lower classes
Like most popular hairstyles in the medieval period, it was worn by everyone. Lower class women would decorate their hair with ribbons, flowers and/or a plain crispinette (basically a hair net); while wealthier women could either wear ribbons and flowers, or wear circlets and/or decorated crispinettes (sometimes adorned with pearls or other precious stones). In the 1300s, with the exception of prostitutes (who were legally forbidden), women of both classes would wear veils and/wimples as they were a popular fashion (good for bad hair days).
The early invention of ear muffs! Who knew!
You look really cute with that hair style.
I love this!
I wonder if Princess Leia's style was inspired by styles of the middle ages?
They did a lot of historical references for the styles.
Did they go to beauty salons to get these done? like did they have hair dressers? or was it done themselves or servants
By servants.
They actually sewed their hair back then, the ribbon would have been sewn through the bun to keep it in place, seeing as they didn't have hair ties or bobby pins.
even hair has history itself
Good vids. But need more reference material and more interactive editing.
This is fascinating as hell. :D
Great vid!
idk why this in my recommended but can we bring back the big forehead trend?
What did they use instead of bobby pins back then?
Thread or hair bodkins.
idk but somehow i really like this kind of hair styles
I was just thinking, didn't she say she had thin hair!? I'm a thin hair girl too 😂
Oh good to know my giant ass forehead is actually beautiful lol
hair harbours dirt and allergens...and who knows what else..mine had bbq sauce in it yesterday...lolol
this hair style makes sence..
It kind of looks like Princess Leia Organa hair buns in Star Wars.
I guess this is were they took the inspiration for Princess Leia's hairstyle
The Princess Leia look.
It would be good If you tell what was going on to the world at that time. And How that influenciated. On hair style.
Have you watched the Ultimate Fashion History videos on youtube? they go really indepth on the context of how history was influencing style
It's rather fetching, and perhaps even practical.
I hope you go out in these hairstyles.
I think this is so pretty
leia buns
great for Rennfest...
Oh my gosh, you look so cute like that! Hee hee!
loved it ¡¡
Girl, you resemble Mila Kunis-Kutcher in a way. Especially in the thumbnail.
long hair that's just hangs loose will never be out of style... always makes women look beautiful imo
love to get attention so yea this is good dress need to find or do myself
any bead hair tutorial any fro lol
My bald ass would've been a fashion icon back then bc my forehead is huge
As they had no shampoo and rarely washed. Wasn't hair really greasy? and people would have had to touch it and braid it. Wouldn't that have made it particularly hard to do hair? plus they would have had nits all the time?
+FirstRayOfSun1 Soap has been around since the Roman times :) Also, hair doesn't get as greasy when you wash it less often, some people still wash their hair with only water nowadays, you can google "no poo" to see what their hair looks like :) Like the body, the hair, when it's not touched, keeps itself clean pretty well.
Fine toothed combs were used to scrape away dead skin and extra oil which kept the hair rather nice and clean
+FirstRayOfSun1 Actually, dirty hair is better for styling because the oil makes it smooth and easier to work with. It also sticks together better, which prevents flyaways and allows it to stay up longer. If I cover my hair before bed, I can usually get two wearings out of it, but that works better if it's a little dirty when I first put it up.
I have also heard that you produce a lot of oil in your scalp when you are constantly stripping it out with shampoo. But once you stop shampooing, the scalp will eventually stop producing an excess amount of oil and come into balance. (Whether that balance is acceptable to you depends on how naturally oily you are and whether you like hair that looks light and dry or sleek and shiny.)
They didn't have shampoo like the ones we use today, but there are actually some recipes for medieval shampoo - mostly they used stuff like dryed rose leaves, other flowers and plants, grinding and mixing them with essence of roses or other. They put the mixture on their comb or brush and combed their hair with it. It actually works pretty well :)
FirstRayOfSun1 when we say they didn't bath, it means they didnt strip down and get in a tub. It was considered important to always have a clean face and hands, and the would have noticed sweat destroying their clothing, so they probably took sponge baths frequently. As for hair, orrow root (ground up iris bulbs) was popular for preventing lice and deoderizing.
I think I found my sweet rolls... ;)
leuk en interessant
you mean there was a time when my huge forehead would have been fashionable? clearly i was born in the wrong era
I read in some fashion book that the church figured the Virgin Mary heard gods voice and therefore got pregnant through her ears. So they told women to cover their ears with hair or veils so they didn’t get pregnant. Idk how true this is but it sounds hilarious
Your eyes are so beautiful