Rich Eisen: Is the Falcons’ Penix/Cousins Controversy the Same as Packers’ Love/Rodgers Situation?
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- Rich Eisen likens the Falcons drafting Michael Penix Jr. to the Green Bay Packers drafting Jordan Love while Aaron Rodgers was still on their roster.
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Basically all the falcons did was set it up to never have to say "man...if we only had a QB.."
That depends on if Penix works out.
@Malackheethis is not a home run pick. if it were there wouldn't be any reason to get a QB in free agency. Many QBs were a reach for in the first round. Penix will have a better career than McCarthy mark my words on that, but to not need a QB and use their "pick a starter" pick on someone they want to sit for multiple years is a horrible idea.
Would've felt the same way if they'd only drafted Penix and not signed Cousins.
@@ludacrisisjakes6672 It is a homerun pick, FA goes BEFORE the draft. This was a top QB draft class and we'll officially know in 3 or 4 years. ATL does need a QB, 2-4 years from now and they have theirs for the next 15 years with tons of weapons and a OL waiting for him.
Don't need a QB? FOR THE MOMENT. ATL is taking care of that NOW. People said the same thing about Packers taking Rdogers and Packers taking Love
everyone knows the 4th QB drafted is the best one in every draft. Falcons used that 8th overall pick very wisely
I’m convinced that this is going to workout well for Atlanta… just because EVERYBODY says they don’t know what they are doing.
it will not... save that message for december.
@@fabriziobettoni2547why it won’t ? That group think is wild
Two things can be true :)
@@fabriziobettoni2547 no one will know if it works out until penix takes the field. so December isn't a good call.
@@hookedonfunknics2477Exactly what a weird thing to say. The only thing we could know that soon is if it works not if it doesn’t if Penix takes over as is amazing
Green Bay was never a player away, the defense was the issue.
The defense wasn’t the issue in the second half of the 2020 nfc championship game. It was the offense and who knows what would’ve happened if the Packers took a wr in the first round.
@@BattlefrontBomberit wouldn’t have mattered Rodgers only threw to Adams
Are we going to act like the falcons are a player away?
@@BattlefrontBomberif we wanted to get super specific I would say it was more of an offensive line failure in the second half of the buccaneers game since that was right after Bahktiari destroyed his knee
@@aztronomy7457 Good point, I think the Falcons are just trying to get back to relevancy. I think their goal with Kirk over the next couple years is winning the NFC South, get the momentum rolling and then switch to someone like Penix and start thinking about the SB. But back to the topic of GB when they had Rodgers, looking back now they should have been making moves to get back to and possibly win the SB while they had him.
I like where Rich is going with this hypothetical, but its not even a fair argument. It's essentially "do you take Jordan Love or a Super Bowl win?" Like, of course everyone is gonna say Super Bowl win, but one single player late in the first round will never guarantee you a super bowl win. It's infinitely more likely that you don't make the super bowl regardless of who you take with that pick.
Then why did they sign Kirk?
Absolutely. And in hindsight there isn’t a single player the Packers could have drafted in 2010 that would have put them over the edge. It’s such a dumb take
Can someone please tell me what player in the draft was going to help the Falcons win a Super Bowl right now?
Still, Why pay Cousins all that money and draft Penix if you dont have a team that can contend this year? The whole point of taking a rookie QB is you dont have to pay him a big deal for years so you can focus on other positions.
@@Eaglesfan220 Well the whole point of having a veteran QB that's a proven Regular Season winner and a drafted QB with the potential to be even better, for the next several years, they can solely focus on all the other positions. How is this so hard to understand.
@@natureredux1957 Than why draft the oldest QB prospect in the draft and with an early pick. Penix will be 26 or 27 when he starts, If he does play earlier you will have the most expensive backup QB in NFL history. Also cousins is coming off a major injury and he had Jefferson in Minnesota so no guarantees he will be the same QB.
@@Eaglesfan220 Penix will be 26/27 without hardly a scratch on him if Kirk plays the next 2yrs. So I have no idea why that's even a talking point. Plus he will get to LEARN as opposed to far too many QBs being thrown into the Fire and ruined for life. Just about all the top QB were 23/24 due to the Covid thing. Nor is a 2 yr difference a big thing other then the older guys should be more mentally mature, so how is that even a bad thing.
@@natureredux1957 Getting back to my main point. Answer this honestly, Do you think the Falcons are major contenders for the Super Bowl this year and next with Cousins?
It's a stupid assumption that Rodgers would've won a SB with another pick, he wet the bed his last 2 playoffs, maybe he wouldn't have played as well as he did those years if Love wasn't drafted..
Exactly. There’s a ton of “ifs” in this world. Some bigger than others, and in the case of Rodgers winning another title in Green Bay, that’s a gigantic “if”
Yeah he wet the bed with his 345 yards 3 tds. Totally had nothing to do with the awful defense giving up 31 points at home
Last time I checked, Kirk Cousins ain’t Rodgers lol Next Topic Rich smh 🤦🏽♂️
rich is getting too old.... yeah, favre and rodgers already got a SB win, more than 10 years with the team, owning the team basically, the fanbase and the players. Kirk? .... his big football accomplishment as a Falcon is throwing one football on a tennis court.
That's not the point, obviously. No, Eisen wasn't making believe that Cousins = Rodgers, or that the 2020 Packers = 2024 Falcons. The only comparison was using a top draft pick on a future QB with a ready now team set at QB.
Each move by themselves by the Falcons makes sense. But drafting Penix after signing Cousins makes no sense.
Here's the thing... it doesn't have to make sense to you. Or me. We're all just biased observers.
It does tho Kirk is in his mid 30s coming off an Achilles injury and has 1 playoff win in a decade
Exactly my point
Doesn't matter because Falcons fans will be screaming to start Penix in no time cause Cousins has no connection to the fanbase like Rodgers did in Green Bay. There wasn't going to be pressure of a QB controversy from the outside but in Atlanta there will be. This isn't the same situation. It's financially incompetent when they could have signed cheaper bridge QBs.
@@qaxcgyujm they still wanna be competitive rn. They had to pay Kirk
Great Seinfeld “Moviefone” reference there, Rich. 👍
How is a hypothetical the truth?
When it turns out to be true.
Wth are they hemming and hawing about? If you have the other pieces, you draft to win SB’s now. And Cousins ain’t no Rogers. Lol.
Then why did they sign Kirk to a 100M contract?
Hilarious to me that Rich of all people won’t stop crying about the Penix pick. His Jets went all in on a old QB and it instantly blew up in their faces. Wasted their entire season. Bet he wishes they had a guy like Penix to hand the offense over to. Let it go man, what’s done is done.
I can guarantee he's upset that his Michigan golden boy JJ McCarthy went after Penix in the draft
What if Penix turns out to be as bad as Zach Wilson?
@@LemTurner Penix struggled in the Natty game when he faced a defense that will be similar to what he will face on Sundays (once he finally plays). I think he will figure it out though, problem is it may be another 2-3 years before he starts. I was hoping to see him play this year, as of now it's dependent on Cousins.
so many people use the word cry so vaguely.
@@user-en9qd5nx8w At which point he will be 42 years old.
(Joke)
Any time you can put one in the case, you put one in the case. That being said, we were not a player away
If you're not a player away, then why sign Cousins at all?
I think the packers were at minimum one top weapon away from making it to the superbowl
@@matriculatethefootballWhy did the Vikings sign Cousins at all? He was the best FA QB on the market. They went the mediocre backup QB route before. It was no one better than him available in FA. You foolishly think every year teams should go in to win a Super Bowl if they don’t have a Super Bowl roster? It’s a 2 year deal that they could even turn into a 1 year deal through trade
Love the Seinfeld (Kramer) call back 🤣
Absurd scenario, no one drafted could have moved the needle for the falcons. They needed an edge rusher, not Vic Beasley 2.0. Penix was the right pick, not Dallas Turner.
The Packers situations with Favre/Rodgers/Love have never been the same as this Penix situation.
The Packers had a long time with both Favre and Rodgers and by the end, despite the success, the organization made its peace with letting them go - Favre with his oscillating on retirement and Rodgers being a cancer.
This is just different because Cousins hasn’t played a snap
exactly and we had Rodgers for so long and he didn't always play great in the playoffs...So after awhile you just say lets see if we can reset
The fanbase also was in Rodgers/Favres corner through most of it so there was never going to be pressure for a QB controversy from the outside. I've already been seeing comments from Falcons fans screaming for Penix to start. They're gonna start booing Cousins and chanting for Penix in no time. It's financially incompetent that they signed that much just to use Cousins solely as a bridge QB.
@@qaxcgyujm The fans aren't gonna boo Kirk when they are winning games. Kirk led the Vikings to a 13-4 season in 2022 despite having a 28th ranked run game and a 31st ranked defense.
And this is why players want guaranteed contracts!!! The money isn’t the issue and goes beyond that. The whole time that the Falcons are telling Kirk that he’s the guy, they were lying to him (about that long term contract) which was the reason that he signed here in the first place. And all along they were wanting to draft a first rounder in Penix and basically planned to make Kirk a bridge quarterback.
Kirk has said several times that structure is more important than the money. Kirk didn't stay with the Vikings because they basically offered him a one year contract (which is management speak for we like you but don't love you).
You can bet that had the Falcons been honest, Kirk would have never signed here in the first place. I still don’t understand why they didn’t just get a bridge quarterback for a one year deal.
In his first team meeting, Morris talked about how important communication is and they don’t tell Kirk that they are picking Penix until they were on the clock? The NFL is a business but what the Falcons did was pretty despicable. Everybody talks about how Penix feels and all I can think is poor Kirk.
To answer the hypothetical, I’d rather they take Love and have sustainability and the possibility of more SuperBowls. Rich should ask this question to an ‘85 Bears fan and see what their response is
As a Packers fan my whole life... GREAT question.. I'd rather have a QB of the future ready to go than a 2nd trophy in the case. Honestly. I'd rather be constantly in the mix like we are than go all in and suffer for years.
The 2020 and 2021 draft classes for GB were not that good either. Aside from Love and potentially Stokes (and that’s a big if), those classes did not produce. If Gutekunst drafted then like he does now, the Packers could’ve had both 🤷🏻♂️
@@Sammy50599na
As a pack fan myself, give me the second superbowl. We've been in the mix since 2010 and never made it back. I just wished we would've went all in one of Rodgers' later years with us.
The fan fiction that has come from the 26th pick of the 2020 NFL Draft is through the roof. Nobody else would’ve made a difference in 2020
They could've traded up for JJ i mean can't say he wouldn't have made a difference
@@Christian2496529 why doesn't every team just trade up for the best player every year?
Tee Higgins, Michael Pittman were two WRs available at the top of the 2nd.
Tee didn’t help the Bengals win the SB.
@@nathanbrager9894Pittman really only recently started makin noise and tee Higgins got demoted to wr2 by a younger dude and the packers lost by 5 points our star players costed them 14 🤦🏾♂️☠️
Thank you, Rich, for asking the right question. They might have won a SB a couple of years ago if they had gone all in when the window is open. It may be similar with Atlanta.
Ya give me the option where u win the Super Bowl…not that hard of a choice.
MVP = individual achievement. Large QB salaries = MVPs.
Brady Model: Lesser QB salary = more money for weapons = Super Bowl wins.
Stop saying brady model. Brady was the biggest star in football its alot easier to take a paycut when u have the endorsements he does.
Yes it’s exactly the same the Falcon situation is actually more understandable Aaron was a MVP, Cousins has one play off game and coming back from a major injury 😂😂
We needed Bahk to contend for a superbowl, drafting JLo was the right choice in hindsight
Packers could have gotten at least one more SB with Rodgers and had been able to draft Jordan Love if they drafted TJ Watt instead of trading down.
this was the real crime
A fair take
No, and for 2 reasons.
- Rodgers had a history with GB, not a mercenary who just signed there (also wasn’t coming off injury)
- Love was a pick in the 20s, not a top 10 pick that are supposed to be day 1 impact starters.
Brockman sounds like a guy who’s experienced a few too many Super Bowl victories. Lombardi’s don’t just grow on trees.
One player did not keep GB from another ring, That defense needed several players to make it plausible.
As a Falcons fan this is the best I have felt about our quarterback situation since Matt Ryan. Feels good, and I think our defense will surprise a lot of people.
I do feel for Penix though and that comes from a Ducks fan. Penix is ready to play now, having to sit for what's planned has to be painful.
Man this is the best I felt for my team in a while 😊
Our team
Kirk Cousins cant tie Aaron Rodgers cleats bruh.. this is stupid.
If Cousins is their plan to win a SB, then you need to draft to win a SB. If they're looking to rebuild for a run in the future, then draft Penix at 8. Signing both Cousins and drafting Penix shows that the Falcons have no clue what they are trying to do
You created a straw man. They signed Cousins to make team as competitive as possible in 2024 and 2025 while building a winning culture. The QB of future is going to be ready to take over when they have enough pieces to build a championship. Y’all act like they gave up multiple draft picks for Penix. They spent one pick. And if you think Dallas Turner is diff in Falcons going to Super Bowl next year, you’re insane
So you’re saying Patrick Queen or Clyde Edwards-Helaire would have won the super bowl? Those were the only decent players taken after Love in that first round.
Let it go Rich
there was no one piece that was gonna put the Falcons over the top in the draft. So invest in the future when your draft pick wont be as high
Closer analogy than you think. Rodgers wasn't going to another SB just like Cousins probably won't go to one.
Bak going down was the different between imo
As long as their story checks out then I understand why this whole QB thing happened with the Falcons. Terry and Raheem's story is that they didn't know if they could get Michael Penix Jr at #8 in the draft so they got Kirk Cousins and once they realized they could get Penix on draft night they picked him up too. If that story DOESN'T turn out to be the truth and they knew all along they could get Penix than they pulled the wool over Kirk's eyes by convincing him that he would be their go to guy for the next 4 years when they knew they were drafting a QB at 8 and would actually cut him after 1 or 2 seasons. That would be very dirty and underhanded.
The falcons needed an edge rusher and had the opportunity to draft a great one.
Remains to be see who is and isn't great. Every draft is full of sure fire can't miss players that miss
@@adrianalley700 the point is, there was an opportunity to snag a top prospect at a position that they absolutely needed. But picked a qb after signing a qb in the off-season for an insane amount of money.
@@taylorbates5669 yeah I get that and my initial reaction was disappointment but after thinking about it a day or so I'd rather be looking for that extra piece to add than being in QB wilderness again.
@@adrianalley700 I hope you’re right, but he wasn’t a top qb from this draft. It was a reach to take him this high. At least I think so. Just an all around head scratcher to me.
@@taylorbates5669I’m sure you weren’t high on Lamar in draft either, neither with Russell Wilson, etc. Ppl don’t know how to evaluate certain type of QBs even when it’s blatantly obvious they are far better than guys rated ahead of them. Penix Jr has one of the greatest arm talents ever and his weakness of mobility is a myth as he quietly has 4.5 speed that he just hasn’t shown off the last 2 years
We're just gonna let Rich use "germane" in a sentence, and get away with it?
I understand why they don't want to engage in the hypothetical because it's one that cannot even happen. There is no button you can press to guarantee a super bowl, so the "get 1 guaranteed super bowl win or have legitimate hope for 10 years" hypothetical is meaningless to entertain. There's no insight to be gained in indulging it.
Damn Rich let it go! Atlanta did what they did. You dont agree. Ok. Are you a Falcons fan? Do you a financial interest in the team? If Penix doesn't work out Im sure we will hear an "I told you so", right? If he does work out are you going to admit they were right? Will you spend as much time as you are doing right now, show after show saying you got that one wrong? I doudt it. In fact, I think you'll triple down and say it tyrned out ok but it was still a bad move. 😂
I'm sorry to inform you of this one player in the first round doesn't guarantee you a Super Bowl three players in the second and third round might guarantee you a Super Bowl Packers chose wisely for their future we'll see if Atlanta did the same thing
this is silly..EVERY TEAM needs to be developing QBs...EVERY SINGLE TEAM...this is not a controversy, this is giant over reaction to doing the normal business of NFL football...
I think if it was a 20,21, or even 22 year old the reaction wouldn't be this visceral kirk is locked in at least 2 years which means penix will be 26 the first time he starts barring injury or a cousins collapse (which is an even worse look for the falcons) people are overreacting but it was a bad move that sends mixed signals people can rightfully criticize it
@@LC-ue1jh but why does the age matter so much? Especially for a QB. That’s the most protected position in football and Penix could easily play 6-8 years.
Also we were the favorites to win the NFC south the moment we got Kirk Cousins. So because we didn’t draft an edge rusher but instead got our future QB (the most important position in football) and succession plan in place we drop from being the favorites? I don’t think so. The QB position has hurt this team for many years and everyone knows that but they’re being bashed for doing something to make it better 🤷🏾♂️
@Sertonius a qb you only get 6-8 years out of and only 2 years of his rookie deal out of before the first big contract at 28 is less than ideal a qb who spent 6 years in college on top of that is already close to their ceiling and yes 1st round players usually have big impacts as rookies so buccaneers getting the top interior lineman saints getting a top rated LT are worth alot more than a backup qb that's not even something that should be a topic of discussion that's such a given?
@@LC-ue1jh I’ll take 6-8 years of not having to worry about the most important position in football over drafting a “top-tier” offensive linemen. If the starters on both of those teams go down their seasons are DONE even with those “top-tier” linemen. The “backup” you’re referring to is not the normal backup. There’s a reason teams were willing to trade of for him 😎 Our starter goes down we still have a chance to win our division. Who cares about the money and the rookie contract if you winning? NOBODY 😂😂
Where is 6-8 years coming from? 10-12 (puts him 36-38) is more accurate if he ends up being good. Draft and develop the kid...
Always remember that Chris Brockman was the guy who said that Mac Jones was a Top Ten quarterback after his rookie season. Remember that. 🤷🏻♂️🙄🤦🏻♂️
I appreciate the comparison, but it makes not sense considering one VERY IMPORTANT detail: Falcons don't have one in the case.
This seems a lot more like Alex Smith when they drafted Mahomes
Not the same, but very similar. Veteran on huge deal that is nearing the end of his road has a rookie 1st round QB waiting behind him learning. The falcons didn’t even trade up like the Packers.
Sometimes buying the fast car to keep it from your competitors, even if you dont know how, or plan on driving it, is how you can win the race. Gawldang this isnt that hard of a concept when it isnt your own money, Rich..
You put one in the case!
4:39 exactly.
Change your thinking. This is not a controversy. This is a long-term plan. And a guest you had on your show days prior to the draft told you this was going to happen, Rich.
A bird in the hand is always better than two in the bush.
This is what teams used to do all the time. I don’t understand the confusion.
There is no controversy.
Only speculation of a controversy.
At least wait and see?!??! SMH…
Let the rookies MARINATE 💯
Tee Higgins and Michael Pittman Jr. were drafted after Jordan Love. Just saying.
We have wide receivers. That would have been position gluttony. We don’t want to go into another season with Taylor Henike as the backup
Only reason I say no to this,is because Rodgers was close to being a free agent,the Falcons just gave Kirk 100 guaranteed,just don’t see the reason behind it,when you could gotten Joe Milton in later rounds and less pressure on the QB controversy and could spent more early picks building the defense
Rodgers had several years left on his deal...
A decade of good quarterback play is worth more than you're letting on Rich..
Of course you take the trophy... If you have chance you go all in just like tampa did with TB... The rest you figure out later
I wouldn't say it is the same. Falcons used a top 10 pick just after signing a QB to a big money contract. Packers were I believe 2 years removed from signing Rodgers to his new contract.
Rich Eisen is great and now that the Falcons drafted Penix, he'll never run out of show material...
Im a 39 year old Packer fan. Id take the super bowl win. I also believe they would find a serviceable QB, but also in that scenario, Rodgers would be the QB atleast til 2025.
No, it's not the same because Cousins won't be bothered by it. Aaron was bothered by it. That's the Big difference.
I got so sick and tired of Rodgers shenanigans over the years that I would double down on the Love pick. Every year he went from almost out to the biggest salary and disappeared coming post season. I could't stand it any longer. Love is a breath of fresh air, so are the boys alongside him. They may not win it all, but sure as hell is a better game to watch. I'm really excited for this upcoming season.
Falcons also got rid of Brett Farve and that was a mistake.
I need to know who was there at 8 that was going to move the needle for the Falcons this year? I stand with the pick.
Not even close to the same situation, Kirk ain’t threatening to retire and penix is like 24 years old
if a frog had wings, he would not bump his butt either, lol.
Take the ring. And, if GB did win another SB with Rodgers, he would still be their QB right now.
I think the worst pick was round 2, getting AJ Dillon. They could have gotten a TE or WR
The Packers were never one pick away, but in this hypothetical situation, how is there any debate? You always take the trophy, that's the point of everything a team works towards.
If you told the average fan, "Hey, every 10-15 years your team WILL get a ring, but in-between they'll fluctuate between average and terrible", I think most jump at that.
So you saying Kirk Cousins is Aaron Rodgers now
The critique is directed in the wrong place. The bigger issues are the size of the Cousins contract and failing to communicate draft intentions prior to the day of the draft. If Kirk was signed for less or was informed sooner, it would be different.
Wasn't Love 20 when he was drafted? Development curve difference is a huge factor I think in why this is a dumb pick for Atlanta
I like Penix, but Jordan Love sat 3 years, and was 24 when he started his first year. Penix is 24 coming out of college. He will be 27/28 when he sees the field. If you are going to do the Green Bay way, it would be wise to draft a younger QB, not a 24 year old.
They passed on Odunze , Bowers or the best defensive player in the draft. Don't care how anyone spins it. Dumbass move.
This is no better than Rams logic. I can trade all my picks for right now too. That's not what the draft is about. The draft is about building your team for the future, not the immediate. It just happens to usually assist the immediate too.
The think the better question is. If you the packers now. Without Jordan love. Then you sign Aaron after being hurt with the jets. If you have the #8 pick as packers fans. Will you take Penix or will you take a WR?
Its not the same. Aaron was aging, injured, and the long term guy that they eventually need to replace. Cousins hasn't even taken a snap for the team yet. They gave him big money for more years than what Aaron had at the time. Its similar in that its a draft for the future but I think the Falcons is worse. Add in that Penix was a 6 year college player and ready to go now. Love was a raw prospect that needed to sit.
To say the Falcons, with Kirk Cousins, were 1 player away from Super Bowl contention is a stretch for a team with an all new coaching staff and schemes. These blowhards are going to split this up 7 ways to Sunday, but none of what they're saying matters because it's not their organization, it's not their money, and it's not their draft capital. Period. The Falcons couldn't care LESS what anyone thinks about the moves they made. They got their guys. There's nothing left but to watch and see how it pans out. Rich, I've always liked and respected your show, but man... you're beating a dead horse. Move on already.
I'm glad you pointed that out. If he/they are so smart and know what to do why aren't teams calling your agent asking you to be their new GM? Don't like the decisions teams make? Buy your own team! Even if Elon Musk bought you an NFL team for your birthday, anyone of you podcast experts out there, you start making draft decisions you will have the worst team in NFL history within the first 3 years. That's how little you know. You are entertainers!
Buckle up cuz Eisen won’t let this go until Cousins retires
It is a stretch. Nevertheless, stretches happen all the time in the NFL. At least with a player drafted at a different position, that rookie has the chance to see the field. Only way Penix sees the field this year is if Cousins gets injured
@@matriculatethefootball Valid point. But at this point nobody knows. Last year over 60 different QBs started. QBs went down at a record clip. Cousins gets hurt for any length of time Atlanta is better off with Penix than any other backup they would have on their roster. Nothing to say definitively that Penix can't be more effective by the end of the year. Cousins may be enough to get them to the Superbowl. Highly unlikely, but it is possible. Trent Dilfer won one. Truth is Penix may not be good. QBs miss more often than they hit. So the reality is we have to wait and see.
one was picked in the top 10, the other late first round, it's not a great comparison.
Rich’s question is what the jets are doing right?
But Jordan Love was only 21 AND was learning from Aaron Rodgers. Same timeline and Penix doesn’t actually start until he’s 27 😂
Likely Rodgers would still be in GB for the next year or 2 in this scenario. Probably taking swings on guys like Spencer Rattler for the future.
Who would that pick be exactly? Tee Higgins? Johnathon Taylor? Maybe Xavier McKinney? Jordan love was the only packers play to stay on the roster. That whole draft was garbage for GB.
Feels like Rich is really beating the dead horse here
rich has been in his feels about this as if he's Kirk's agent . there's nothing wrong with the process, we were winning the division with or without a skill player at 8 . nobody watches the Falcons so they think we're just a bad team but we lost literally 5 games last season due to QB play . everybody is so consumed with mock drafts & viral posts that they can't use their brain for a second
Not even close. Love was a project. Penix is ready RIGHT NOW. Plus Rodgers had built up equity with the fans, players and organization. There is no rational justification for what the Falcons did.
Does anyone actually believe Kirk is gong to have back-to-back MVP level success?
Rodgers Love Cousins Penix is a sentence.
Kirk Cousins is the furthest thing from A-Rod
The Falcons are not one defensive player away from winning the Super Bowl though and Cousins is not a QB most people can see winning a SB either
The idea that Green Bay absolutely wouldve won a title in those two years if only they drafted a receiver or something is completely preposterous
NOBODY TALK ABOUT SAM & GENO OR JUSTIN & RUS THO 🧐
Someone should ask Rich if Miami would've preferred Yatil Green or Jake Plummer in 97 or John Avery vs Matt Hasselbeck in 98. They didn't win SB's but they also would've continued winning with at least a chance. This negativity of the Penix pick has become annoying because the media drools to say how dumb Atl was but spends little time explaining the other side of the coin.
man you really can't get over this pick lol
Trust the process.
I agree they should just keep doing what they are doing and be losers FOREVER!
Trusting the process is only a good idea if the organization is competent, which Atlanta has never proven to be!
I would take that second Super Bowl easily
As a fan, what really matters to you? Winning it all and having forever bragging rights or just enjoy watching your team be good but never accomplishing anything? There's no right or wrong answer, but Rich has to ask because that's what owners have to decide for their franchise.
Maybe Atlanta will have the dice roll their way and eventually win a Super Bowl with Penix or they could've put themselves into a better position to win everything with Kirk now.
In the end, it's all for entertainment and fun for us. Let's just enjoy the ride
If the Packers didn't draft Love they would have traded back and got Higgins at the end of the round. They may still have gotten Love in the 2nd depending on what they got in the trade.