Although I also adore the game, I was let down by its lack of support and substance as well as the makers' lack of interaction with the community. It was the one game that had enormous potential but didn't fully realize it.
7:52 truest thing about Ubisoft, especially after I stopped enjoying R6S with the balance passes they were making. The Division as a concept to me is just cool as hell.
Same. I'm actually pretty excited to hear that they fixed it. I've been playing the division since the first one dropped in 2016. I still hop on there from time to time to play Survival mode and troll other players in the DZ with my 10k Stamina nomad.
it really was, the division 1 was probably my favorite game at the time and it continued to get lots of content and updates (there's arguments to be made but still, post-release non-dlc content). awesome story that set up for another one
As a guy who's still playing, and has been with the Division franchise ever since TD1, the community is still thriving. Especially since Massive has been able to actually allocate more resources and time to the development of post-launch content. I mean, we're on Year 6 now, getting a DLC in the next season, the endgame has been revamped, the seasonal model was revamped this season, and there are still TH-camrs I know of that still make Div2 content every single week: build guides, dev news breakdowns, etc. If you stopped playing because of the crashes, I'd suggest logging in and give it another try. I love this game, and I love seeing Thor talk about it. Plus, Massive has been MUCH more responsive to audience reactions. For example, they were originally going to introduce "seasonal characters" to this new season model, having you start a new character for each season. Fans hated the idea of leaving their original character behind, so Massive scrapped the idea entirely.
AND they just released TODAY a new weapon as part of a Veteran Reward Program, granting everyone access to a fully automatic LVOA-C (The LVOA was a fully automatic rifle in TD1 but they changed it to a semi-automatic rifle in TD2). And they granted skins (bronze, silver, gold) based on how long you've been playing the Division and Division 2.
@@local9 Well, the game has a lot more content now. 2 raids, and incursion, multiple different game modes, including a new Roguelike mode called Descent, different progression systems such as Expertise and Proficiency. There's a seasonal mode that unlocks more story content as you progress through each season. And you can revisit the past season climax missions to grab their collectibles and get a grasp on where the story has gone since the end of the main campaign.
@@h3rmesactual ugh....the game is still dead compared to how it was before the bug. And Ubisoft is trying everything to get back their lost players. 'thriving'....such a silly corporate word that means nothing.
@@blahblah8372 You're right, the game is still struggling heavily to come back from all the bullshit the fans had to go through. A ton of people left and not a lot came back. But that doesn't change the fact that it's not a dead game. I still play whenever I can, I have no problems matchmaking for games, and again, there are still a solid number of content creators who make videos for The Division. Granted, not as big as COD or Destiny, but it's still a community nonetheless. I agree it sucks how much shit Ubisoft has done, but Massive Entertainment is at least making some good steps with this franchise and like Thor pointed out, the numbers have grown on Steam since they've begun fixing the game and adding more content.
Conspiracy theory but it seems that crash bug was during the time a lot of veteran Ubisoft employees left the company. There were reports that the people working at the company were attempting to contact veteran staff that left for issues they couldn't resolve. You can even see that with AC Shadows of how unpolish the game looks with poor terrain alignment and NPCs sliding in the trailers they posted. Could've been that no one knew how to fix it.
Be aware that Ubisoft is composed of many studio and the one on Division (Massive) it not the same one on AC Shadow. Furthermore, it was known that Ubsifot was a bit disappointed by Div2 sales and move on a part of the team to work on the Avatar game and then the rest on SW Outlaw.
still hoping they bring back big allehandro the bullet king dosen't have enough rpm for me i wanna bore a hole into a hunter with bullets at lightspeed
I'm one of the weird guys who still revisits Division 1 each year, and prefer it over 2. Hope they get back to winter setting in a big city with Division 3
You're not the only one brother, i install just to wander around the city in 1, I run a D3-FNK for the longest time had to grind for a full set of classifieds for it, and I remember carrying as a tank on legendary runs and just giving away exotic drops to new people that needed them at the time, good times, seeing 6 named enemies aimed at me whiile all my team are downed and slowly making my way to revive them because my shield has millions in health XD
@@eternallydammedthis might just be a hardware issue, because when I played on PS4 (now PS5) I hadn’t and still haven’t had any issues with game crashes
I wanted to give that game a try, but at that time I had a pretty lame PC. Now I may have a better PC, but I am investing my time on other things. Such is life.
some things are better left behind, especially if you feel like you have something going on, moving forward; life is too short for getting lost into nostalgia; and not everything is worth returning to, but if you're disciplined and honest with yourself, you can enjoy a lil' bit of lots of stuff...
I had Division 2 for years but never played it. Finally started playing it some time ago and just reached level 40. Absolutely love it. Visually and in gameplay just incredibly fun.
I bought it at some point, played it like an addict for weeks, then stopped to play something different and forgot about it. Which happens a lot for me, as soon as I'm out of a game I pretty much never return to it for literally no reason despite enjoing it a ton.
I wasn't playing Division 2 when the crashes were happening, I just phased out of the game because of real life. With a bunch of life being breathed into the game, maybe I'll go back in. Division and Division 2 were super awesome fun games.
@@ZrinNZ you're probably gonna get bombarded with the pop-ups for the new mechanics but there's so much more build diversity and QOL since you last played
As someone that has played both Division 1 and 2 for a good while I always thought it was very niche RPG game that not many would know aside from the initial launch so hearing a big creator like Thor talk about the game and playing it puts a smile on my face.
DIV 2 is my on again, off again guilty delight. I always find a reason to come back to playing it. Some nights I'll just chill and answer calls for help from other agents.
I still actively play this game to this day since release, It is top 3 games for me and I will continue to play it until the shut down the servers, it is just the best of everything in my opinion
Recently tried Division 2 and... I really do not get what is actually fun about it? The menus are a pain to navigate, the missions are boring, the difficulty in general is way too easy, the loot does not feel like it matters at all.
@@Ozzianman making a "build" having a baseline idea in mind or just a gun you really enjoy then making a "build" of gear with certain brand attributes around said gun or idea. Example - Oh i really enjoy shotguns, so you make a hunters fury build cause wearing 2 pieces of it Set bonus (2): +15% Shotgun Damage. +15% SMG Damage and if you wear 4 pieces you get the special talent Enemies within 15m receive a debuff, amplifying your weapon damage against them by +20%. Killing a debuffed enemy with your weapon disorients other enemies within 5m, and amplified weapon damage by 5% for 10s, stacking up to 5 times.
@@undeadvex1719 Borderlands is actually fun to play though. The Division 2 is not. To me that seems like a lot of end game talk and if I have to grind through a poorly made early game to get to the good part, then I am not going to bother as I have already played for like 5 hours and I am bored.
@@Ozzianman if you played the division 2 early on yes the level grind was tedious, but now if you purchased the Warlords of new york expansion you can skip to level 30, and if you finish the warlords dlc you get level 40 which takes about an hour, we use it to create new characters as storage or to farm material for the main acc and or to have re rolls for the incursion since u can only get the loot once a week (multiple characters = multiple chances for raid exotic loot)
I absolutely love D2. I go back to the game every 6 months or so and definitely had some overlap with the crash issue. Early on it also wouldn't run if your video card was overclocked (that may still exist). They're trying to make a comeback with new season content, total revamp of items and upcoming DLC. Definitely worth a look if you've never played it or haven't picked it up in a while.
I remember having issues with crashing that ruined my first playthrough. I've played a bunch since then and now I've been playing daily with all of the new content released recently. The community is actually growing. Really quick turnarounds on Countdown and events.
Fun fact that crash still happens if you change your graphics settings multiple times and don’t reset the game... But im happy that there will be more content to the game
The Division franchise holds a special place in my heart because i remember trying the first game at my cousins house when it first came out and instantly fell in love. Even though enemies can be a little spongy, the gunplay and insane level of build crafting (especially in Divison 2) always has me signing in, doing a few dailies, and running some legendries with some Randoms.
Awesome of you to bring division up buddy. Love the game and story. Look forward to you playing on stream bud, lets all hope for better support on div 3.
I honestly can't explain how happy I am to see people's perspectives have changed on the division 2. I have been a fan and been playing it since launch. Hopefully this video will help the community grow back.
Including myself, the community has started growing. It’s refreshing seeing new players again. Call for backups never go unanswered now. Myself and another clan do raids on Fridays. You’ll probably see the shoutouts for raids those days and can easily get invited
Played the heck out of Division 1 through all the bugs and cheats. Had a lot of fun, but trailed off as my fireteam left. Trying to do anything in the Dark Zone, which was pretty much the only way to farm, solo was a nightmare. Tried Division 2 and ground out max level mostly solo. Not enough players when I was dabbling to be able to get a raid team together. Hope it's enjoyable for everyone now, hats off for sticking it out. I don't see myself falling back into that particular series again.
I still rock The Division 1 every so often. War-torn NYC in the middle of winter is just visual perfection. And Survival was the best DLC I've picked up for any game, ever.
I made an amazing friend in that game, we planned to meet up in person several times but life got in the way. We had each other's numbers and we're basically best friends instantly over division 1. The division was an amazing game.
I will say I started playing this a month ago on my XBX and it was a blast to the past seeing my character with the exotics that I have and being able to run around with people. Just to give you a heads up In Warlords of NY, the Sunken Tanker Mission is bugged where you cannot access the mission. You would need someone who has completed that mission to start it and you fast travel to them. If you try to go there on foot, you be greeted by an invisible barrier the 3 minutes later, you get a Delta-08 error code. Already reported to Ubisoft
Division 2 got me through the later days of the pandemic. Awesome game, I lost interest after 240 hours or so. I might try and get back into it again, I had a blast with it a few years ago.
Completely unrelated to the topic of discussion, but I love this video form factor. The shorts are great but this longer video form factor feels more genuine especially when you're talking about something you're passionate about. Great video and now I must get back on TD2. See ya in the streets!!
"Bullet Gun" I'm dying XD So glad to hear you enjoy Div2 a couple friends and I have always played from beta Div1 and omfg YES the crashes! Have to admit they did impact our enjoyment vs frustration ratios in a neggy way as well. Hope to see some Div2 content from you that would be awesome
I was a huge fan of the original. New York City at Christmas just captured that eerie feeling of despair brilliantly. I never really appreciated Division 2 until recently when ( after 1,000's of hours ) I finally came to realise Destiny was not only on a steady decline since sunsetting but it's trajectory now was a swan dive past the point of no return. Division 2 is a beautiful game. Returning and New players are separated from "veteran" players until they reach a certain level. Giving you more than enough time to create your character, fine tune your build and become familiar with the game mechanics. It's a lot of fun.
I literally never had an issue with the crashes but I still love the game, the series and just wish Ubisoft gave the Division 2 a more dedicated team instead of breaking it up and giving it around to other game projects.
I have 379 hours into the steam version currently and I highly recommend it. It's has been stable for most of my game time. The gunplay is satisfying, the leveling/story progression feel's good, the ambience/scenery is immersive and then there's the amazing soundtrack composed by Ola Strandh which really brings it altogether. I even play the soundtrack at the gym or at work. I'll admit, it's hard to keep track of all the character's roles in the story, but you do understand your role and the bigger picture. (For additional lore, I go to NGN's channel). Currently me and my GF covered most of the content on global difficulty: heroic. We now just roam the city, finishing random events, bounties, collecting audio logs, to even escorting friendly supply convoys while they mourn about losing the convivences of their past life before the outbreak.
The game is super fun. I played the hell out of it during 'Rona. Stopped when it got old. Picked it up again. It is the same but different. Good. Recommended. 😊
I actually just jumped back into Div2 recently, not even knowing about all the changes that has happened. It has been super fun. Runs pretty stable, builds feel good, lots of stuff to do.
So many good memories from both 1 & 2! Remember getting the Ravenous on my first raid clear in 2 and i was so psyched! 100's of hours just playing around with different loadouts trying to get the perfect pieces, collecting exotics, Underground and trying to push Resistance solo to collect set items in 1, the games were grindy as hell before you could re-roll stats and i loved it! I really wanted go in again after this video, but just found out it does not support cross-save.. And being the absolute loot goblin that i am, i really don't want to start all over again
I’ve been a TD2 player since Y1S2 and it still stands as one of my top 5 favorite games. The build crafting depth is so much fun to mess around with and it’s so user friendly. 10/10 would recommend, even more so now that the dlc isn’t required to reach endgame.
I have played many RPG looter shooters over the years and yet none of them have kept me invested for as long as The Division 1 and 2. The atmosphere is goated, the gunplay is addicting and I always found it interesting how they managed to make an RPG take place in a contemporary/relatable setting and make it work. Instead of swords, bows and wands you get different archetypes of guns Instead of magical spells you get skills like turrets, shields and drones And Instead of potions you get consumables like armor kits and special ammo for your gun. Is the game unrealistic? Absolutely, just look at some of the raid and manhunt bosses. They ain't trying to hide it lol. but once you understand that this game isn't trying to be realistic shooter and treat it like an RPG with guns you're likely gonna have alot more fun with it.
I barely got into the end game stuff of Division 2 before i stopped playing. Like i had only just cleared first world and wasn't even max lvl. I played it a ton recently and realised how much content i missed. I've got all the current DLC now and have greatly enjoyed the game again. I loved it so much, and still do.
I've been playing Division 2 for a couple years now, maybe three, and I've logged around 1700 hours in that time. While it can't hold my interest *perpetually*, I have come back to the game multiple times and immediately started having fun again. Regardless, I play every Friday night with family, and that is always a fun time. Making new builds in this game is *great*. Umbra+Fox+Centurion is my current favorite by a big margin, it makes my guns shoot absurdly fast and is a really comfy setup. The UIC15 MOD2 is my *baby*, but there's a Rifle sound bug in co-op, so for the sake of my teammates' ears, I run a Measured Lexington. A lovely gun. It's raised from 850 RPM to 1300 RPM+. Complemented by an Iron Lung LMG. I love this build so much lol. Burn > Laser > Burn > Laser...
Still playing division 2 here! the games been patched a ton and crashing issues are pretty much a thing of the past lol. Would highly recommend this game to anybody now. its super fun.
There were not only crashing issues but also old bugs that were not fixed, for example, the screen would suddenly go dark. When exiting the settlement head room we can't walk if we skip it by pressing the f key. Turrets that suddenly crash. Drones that cannot be controlled. And there are many other bugs in the division 2
Early this year I played through the game with three other friends, I like many years prior just had no issues running this game, ran flawlessly for me almost no crashes or graphical bugs. But all three of my friends would run into graphical bugs all the time, two of them had more powerful PCs one had a less powerful one like it didn't make any sense. It was maddening for me because the game has and was always running smoothly for me with no issues. I consider myself to be one of the very lucky few that never experienced any issues playing Divison 2 as I know it was exceedingly rare.
This also happened with Blacklight Retribution several years ago, you would get booted after an hour if you were level 30+, and then you couldn't login. It went on for a good 3 years. They eventually fixed the issue (and removed Australian servers) but the game slowly dwindled and died in 2019.
I played The Division 2 on Xbox and it was a really fun game, never played D1. I wanted to play D2 when I got my first pc, but I heard the game would always crash so I never got it then. Seeing the game somehow reviving a little on PC shows that people really love this franchise and are willing to give it another chance. And that is what happens when you treat your audience nicely and not just hopefully cash in for your shareholders
I remember that vividly. Had a friend I really wanted to play with. When it worked we had so much fun but it was like 20% of the time it worked. Really sad because it is a fun game especially with friends
i remember this back on console years ago, now that im on pc, ive crashed twice, i remember constant deltas in summit, done 1-100 floors without any problems, pretty good and stable as of last week
I stopped playing because doing the same missions over and over got boring. Nothing new to earn, the seasons were boring and they kept nerfing what worked to make us feel powerful, while at the same time buffing NPCs that were already cracked😂 now ubisoft is sinking so there’s little hope for a Div 3.
I think over a year is an understatement. I reinstalled the game several times over several years and the crash was there every time and it always killed my playthroughs.
I still play this game and love it. 5 x XP this whole past weekend. Been playing since day one. It’s had its ups and downs for sure but it scratches the itch for what I want out of a game. They just need to bring the vibe of TD1 back. Oh, I was in the TD2 beta too as well. Got the Capital Hill backpack trophy or “dongle” as you called it, haha!
I love this series. I get a great satisfaction running turret/drone in 2 and turret/seeker in 1. The first one stole me from the Earth for a solid year. The second one was awesome. The crash is why i stopped. Didn't play for years. Jumped back on this summer and had fun over the summer. It wasn't a ghost town game yet. Still empty. If you play the game long enough, even post fix, you're gonna get used to seeing FOXTROT
Glad to hear Pirate aliked the Division. Cuz yeah, it's such an incredible Looter Shooter with incredible build-crafting and RPG mechanics. But the crashes were absurd. Glad it's fixed now. I've jumped back in within the last couple weeks myself. Hope Pirate can enjoy this game again, cuz there's seriously good bones in this franchise.
Thank you for talking about this. Me and my friend both bought the Division 2 but were unable to continue playing or get a refund since the game would constantly crash after the 70~ hour mark. It especially sucks since the game was genuinely amazing but I couldn't in good faith recommend others the game because it was literally unplayable.
I love the division 2, my Discord was division themed for years, and now my protogen is division themed. I played on console and dodged all the issues and it was fixed by the time I picked it up on Steam
The game still crashes all the time for me and its super frustrating because I REALLY liked it. Some of the best third-person shooter gameplay in a game.
Yep, long crashing period pretty much killed it. Before frequent crashes started to happen, had like 15-20 active players in clan playing every day. A good portion of players left mainly because of crash issues and now can someday only see few survivors left.
I was a launch player and this issue absolutely drove me away for a long time. I've started playing again and really enjoy it; there's nothing quite like The Division when it comes to atmosphere and realistic setting details. They very nearly dropped the ball yet again with Seasons 2.0, though--Washington D.C. was stable, but players were getting disconnected constantly on the NYC map, like every 5-20 minutes. Thankfully they were able to fix the issue pretty quickly this time, and the game is overall very stable these days.
There was also an issue on PC where Easy AntiCheat would think OBS was a cheat client, and would softlock your game, if you didn't have the game open for about 15-20 minutes PRIOR to opening OBS. It absolutely CRUSHED content from PC players, forcing people to either stream the game on console, or play different games (like Destiny 2). Combined with the otherwise-happening crashes, and basically no content creation from PC players, made nearly all PC players leave for a long time. This was something Massive could do nothing about, since it was an EAC problem, and they had no way of changing it. It took about 4-6 months for them to get the EAC team to fix it, which was definitely far from good. The other issue was the complete radio-silence, due to Ubisoft moving the Massive development team to the Avatar game (which turned out great). The development team went from like 300 to 40ish (which took a while for them to tell us), who were left responsible with- 1. Trying to revive a story that was left in a cut-off-head state, in terms of where it was progressed to. 2. Trying to update a game that was left in a nailed-coffin state, where it was never meant to be changed again. 3. Appeasing a terminally-pissed-off community due to the radio silence the development team had no choice over. 4. The impossible demands of parts of the community, who expect the same content the team made when it was 8-10x larger. The game is still a blast, but that's kind of a problem. People love the game so much, they will willing play exclusively it, but then get burnt out super quick, since development can't keep up with their demands. It's kind of what happened to Helldiver's 2 initially, where they had to hire more people to make new stuff, since the demand was there. It's definitely still a ton of fun, and EXTREMELY fun in a squad of players together, but it just got mismanaged for so long, that it was suffocated. 100% worth trying it out again. 1 0 0 %. Alternatively play through the first game again, since it's a masterpiece, and since there's still a pretty dedicated playerbase there EVERY DAY.
What did i miss here? I still keep playing this game since the release and i am right now the only one in our group who keeps actively playing it and i never experienced this type of bug myself. But maybe this explains why i got rarely other players through the search for missions. I was wondering why most of the times i could run the search for over a hour and nobody would join. Hopefully my buddy gets finally his first pc setup so we can finally play this great game together. To this day i'm still discovering new ways to play this game with different loadouts or approaches on gameplay.
Part of me feels like the game’s in need of a crossplay system. I migrated from PS4 to PC some time ago. I always had a Main Mission or two to do on work nights, queue near-instant on PS4. Now it’s hit-or-miss, especially on choosing a specific mission. What’s worse, it seems that the queue prioritizes ongoing missions rather than goobers like me waiting at the “start gate” of the mission with a sniper build, so you have to “force” up the queue by starting the mission first and hoping people join. A small annoyance but still there.
I started playing at release and it was fun then, as you said, crashes ruined it. I returned and got a couple crashes at first, then they did a patch and it's gone. I've been enjoying the hell out of it.
Welcome back Thor! Make sure you load in on your main character so you can get the best AR in the game...The Lexington!... a D1 throwback you're gonna love 🎉
Oh the Division 2 is so good right now. The engine issues that plagued the game for so long were fixed. The devs said on multiple streams that whatever issue they had was really tough to track down. But they're gone now, and oh boy it's so much fun! I'm also a fan of the story and world lore of the game, and man, they're cooking right now. The plot is so thick you can taste the intrigue in the air.
Been playing since day one don’t remember it crashing that much but it did crash on me a couple times then again I was on PlayStation 4/5 I love this game. I’ll continue to play it until division 3 comes out.
As an avid player of this franchise on Xbox, I never seemed to have this issue, but I did hear about it. As for Thor who's going to tell him Division 3 is being developed
Great game. Big fan of the original and still remember the E3 2013 trailer that blew my socks off introducing the snowdrop engine. Played the game a lot for a year and came back couple years later and played the expansion. Missed out on the crashing bug but can only imagine how ridiculous that would have been.
As someone who stuck through Div2 during the hard times, when the game works right and runs great, its honestly a su0per fun game to play with friends, but when it's being too buggy or not operating correctly it's a massive drag
i did not know this. i played it on release and then later in mid 2023 with a buddy for weeks, doing sessions of like 10-20h without any bugs or issues, crazy how i havent even noticed that there was such a huge issue with the game for the majority of ppl.
Love this damn game.
Glad it actually runs again.
Holy cow he actually did it. (pin this comment so people see it)
Although I also adore the game, I was let down by its lack of support and substance as well as the makers' lack of interaction with the community. It was the one game that had enormous potential but didn't fully realize it.
7:52 truest thing about Ubisoft, especially after I stopped enjoying R6S with the balance passes they were making. The Division as a concept to me is just cool as hell.
POV the divison 2: we are so back
Same. I'm actually pretty excited to hear that they fixed it. I've been playing the division since the first one dropped in 2016. I still hop on there from time to time to play Survival mode and troll other players in the DZ with my 10k Stamina nomad.
i hope the division franchise comes back, the first game was an atmospheric gem
The artbook of TD1 is awesome!
The Division 1 was... 2 not so much.
Survival in Div1 was PEAK atmosphere.
Division 1 was really fun playing with friends, goofing off in the dark zone, Good times.
well you are in luck as Division 3 is in development as we speak
it really was, the division 1 was probably my favorite game at the time and it continued to get lots of content and updates (there's arguments to be made but still, post-release non-dlc content). awesome story that set up for another one
I started playing again 2 weeks ago and randomly this has been recommended! Thank you for getting this out there! Join us, the game is good again!
I started Division 2 after the recent sale and now suddenly I see Thor talking about it.
Same!!
Gonna buy it now on steam. I actually loved Division
Same, so good to be back.
His regular videos never show for me. I bought D2 yesterday and this is the first one I’ve noticed in a while lol
As a guy who's still playing, and has been with the Division franchise ever since TD1, the community is still thriving. Especially since Massive has been able to actually allocate more resources and time to the development of post-launch content. I mean, we're on Year 6 now, getting a DLC in the next season, the endgame has been revamped, the seasonal model was revamped this season, and there are still TH-camrs I know of that still make Div2 content every single week: build guides, dev news breakdowns, etc. If you stopped playing because of the crashes, I'd suggest logging in and give it another try. I love this game, and I love seeing Thor talk about it. Plus, Massive has been MUCH more responsive to audience reactions. For example, they were originally going to introduce "seasonal characters" to this new season model, having you start a new character for each season. Fans hated the idea of leaving their original character behind, so Massive scrapped the idea entirely.
AND they just released TODAY a new weapon as part of a Veteran Reward Program, granting everyone access to a fully automatic LVOA-C (The LVOA was a fully automatic rifle in TD1 but they changed it to a semi-automatic rifle in TD2). And they granted skins (bronze, silver, gold) based on how long you've been playing the Division and Division 2.
@@h3rmesactual o.O I didn't stop because of a crashing bug... I just ran the story hard and just had nothing end game to return to.
@@local9 Well, the game has a lot more content now. 2 raids, and incursion, multiple different game modes, including a new Roguelike mode called Descent, different progression systems such as Expertise and Proficiency. There's a seasonal mode that unlocks more story content as you progress through each season. And you can revisit the past season climax missions to grab their collectibles and get a grasp on where the story has gone since the end of the main campaign.
@@h3rmesactual ugh....the game is still dead compared to how it was before the bug. And Ubisoft is trying everything to get back their lost players.
'thriving'....such a silly corporate word that means nothing.
@@blahblah8372 You're right, the game is still struggling heavily to come back from all the bullshit the fans had to go through. A ton of people left and not a lot came back. But that doesn't change the fact that it's not a dead game. I still play whenever I can, I have no problems matchmaking for games, and again, there are still a solid number of content creators who make videos for The Division. Granted, not as big as COD or Destiny, but it's still a community nonetheless. I agree it sucks how much shit Ubisoft has done, but Massive Entertainment is at least making some good steps with this franchise and like Thor pointed out, the numbers have grown on Steam since they've begun fixing the game and adding more content.
Conspiracy theory but it seems that crash bug was during the time a lot of veteran Ubisoft employees left the company. There were reports that the people working at the company were attempting to contact veteran staff that left for issues they couldn't resolve. You can even see that with AC Shadows of how unpolish the game looks with poor terrain alignment and NPCs sliding in the trailers they posted. Could've been that no one knew how to fix it.
this is the answer
@@Shizzmoney74 Yeah the competency crisis is very real, and has affected this game a lot recently after updates..
Be aware that Ubisoft is composed of many studio and the one on Division (Massive) it not the same one on AC Shadow.
Furthermore, it was known that Ubsifot was a bit disappointed by Div2 sales and move on a part of the team to work on the Avatar game and then the rest on SW Outlaw.
@@Jumpel so it was both a move of staff and some quitting.
Thats basically splinter cell now. Crashing every damn 15 minutes. A years old game still crashing
Someone say “The Division 2”?
🤘🏼🍿🍿🤘🏼 Community is still there!
That's right we are.
still hoping they bring back big allehandro the bullet king dosen't have enough rpm for me i wanna bore a hole into a hunter with bullets at lightspeed
I was gonna say our game might be "niche" after our release cycle but we're dedicated af.
no. its dead. just have a look closly.
@@adannator1546 And the damage you get with it lol
Thanks Thor! I'm going back to The Division 2 because of you!! Create more content for this game please
I'm one of the weird guys who still revisits Division 1 each year, and prefer it over 2.
Hope they get back to winter setting in a big city with Division 3
Their survival/extraction mode was amazing with the Winter setting
@@GHOST25938 Survival (I think it was called) was the best thing in TD1
@@krispy_kornflake agreed, but the 20 minute que times got unbearable at some point, don't wanna know how bad it would be now...
@@GHOST25938 never had 20 minutes on xbox, its max 10 minutes it does have an thriving community on xbox division 1
You're not the only one brother, i install just to wander around the city in 1, I run a D3-FNK for the longest time had to grind for a full set of classifieds for it, and I remember carrying as a tank on legendary runs and just giving away exotic drops to new people that needed them at the time, good times, seeing 6 named enemies aimed at me whiile all my team are downed and slowly making my way to revive them because my shield has millions in health XD
Damn, now I have to download Division 2 again ...
Division and division 2 are one of my favorite games of all time
Its buggy as hell not worth downloading at the moment you'll be lucky if you get to do one mission without crashing and having your system shutdown
@@eternallydammedthis might just be a hardware issue, because when I played on PS4 (now PS5) I hadn’t and still haven’t had any issues with game crashes
Td1 2013 E3 trailer goated
@@normalpersonlivingtheirlife me neither. Works fine on pc right now
I wanted to give that game a try, but at that time I had a pretty lame PC.
Now I may have a better PC, but I am investing my time on other things.
Such is life.
Base game is $10 on steam
@@FrozenTvDinner hm....
some things are better left behind, especially if you feel like you have something going on, moving forward; life is too short for getting lost into nostalgia; and not everything is worth returning to, but if you're disciplined and honest with yourself, you can enjoy a lil' bit of lots of stuff...
Ew, dint even have hopes for an ubishit title
@@Slaarduk the ultimate edition is 15 bucks on steam comes with the warlords expansion and a lvl 30 boost
It's cool that you made a video about Division 2. I never expected a vid like this to drop.
I had Division 2 for years but never played it. Finally started playing it some time ago and just reached level 40. Absolutely love it. Visually and in gameplay just incredibly fun.
I bought it at some point, played it like an addict for weeks, then stopped to play something different and forgot about it.
Which happens a lot for me, as soon as I'm out of a game I pretty much never return to it for literally no reason despite enjoing it a ton.
I wasn't playing Division 2 when the crashes were happening, I just phased out of the game because of real life. With a bunch of life being breathed into the game, maybe I'll go back in. Division and Division 2 were super awesome fun games.
@@ZrinNZ you're probably gonna get bombarded with the pop-ups for the new mechanics but there's so much more build diversity and QOL since you last played
As someone that has played both Division 1 and 2 for a good while I always thought it was very niche RPG game that not many would know aside from the initial launch so hearing a big creator like Thor talk about the game and playing it puts a smile on my face.
i really like division 2's builds. i like how i could build very different builds. So many games have builds but they are all simliar.
DIV 2 is my on again, off again guilty delight. I always find a reason to come back to playing it. Some nights I'll just chill and answer calls for help from other agents.
I still actively play this game to this day since release, It is top 3 games for me and I will continue to play it until the shut down the servers, it is just the best of everything in my opinion
Recently tried Division 2 and... I really do not get what is actually fun about it? The menus are a pain to navigate, the missions are boring, the difficulty in general is way too easy, the loot does not feel like it matters at all.
@@Ozzianman making a "build" having a baseline idea in mind or just a gun you really enjoy then making a "build" of gear with certain brand attributes around said gun or idea. Example - Oh i really enjoy shotguns, so you make a hunters fury build cause wearing 2 pieces of it Set bonus (2): +15% Shotgun Damage. +15% SMG Damage and if you wear 4 pieces you get the special talent Enemies within 15m receive a debuff, amplifying your weapon damage against them by +20%.
Killing a debuffed enemy with your weapon disorients other enemies within 5m, and amplified weapon damage by 5% for 10s, stacking up to 5 times.
same reason i love the borderlands series so much, so many different guns and armor sets you can mix n match to your playstyle and just have a blast
@@undeadvex1719 Borderlands is actually fun to play though. The Division 2 is not. To me that seems like a lot of end game talk and if I have to grind through a poorly made early game to get to the good part, then I am not going to bother as I have already played for like 5 hours and I am bored.
@@Ozzianman if you played the division 2 early on yes the level grind was tedious, but now if you purchased the Warlords of new york expansion you can skip to level 30, and if you finish the warlords dlc you get level 40 which takes about an hour, we use it to create new characters as storage or to farm material for the main acc and or to have re rolls for the incursion since u can only get the loot once a week (multiple characters = multiple chances for raid exotic loot)
I absolutely love D2. I go back to the game every 6 months or so and definitely had some overlap with the crash issue. Early on it also wouldn't run if your video card was overclocked (that may still exist). They're trying to make a comeback with new season content, total revamp of items and upcoming DLC. Definitely worth a look if you've never played it or haven't picked it up in a while.
I remember having issues with crashing that ruined my first playthrough. I've played a bunch since then and now I've been playing daily with all of the new content released recently. The community is actually growing. Really quick turnarounds on Countdown and events.
Fun fact that crash still happens if you change your graphics settings multiple times and don’t reset the game... But im happy that there will be more content to the game
Genuinely hand on heart I really bloody enjoy The Division 2
The Division franchise holds a special place in my heart because i remember trying the first game at my cousins house when it first came out and instantly fell in love. Even though enemies can be a little spongy, the gunplay and insane level of build crafting (especially in Divison 2) always has me signing in, doing a few dailies, and running some legendries with some Randoms.
Awesome of you to bring division up buddy. Love the game and story. Look forward to you playing on stream bud, lets all hope for better support on div 3.
Me and 3 friends just started Division 2 (again for some) and its a TON of fun
I honestly can't explain how happy I am to see people's perspectives have changed on the division 2. I have been a fan and been playing it since launch. Hopefully this video will help the community grow back.
Including myself, the community has started growing. It’s refreshing seeing new players again. Call for backups never go unanswered now. Myself and another clan do raids on Fridays. You’ll probably see the shoutouts for raids those days and can easily get invited
Played the heck out of Division 1 through all the bugs and cheats. Had a lot of fun, but trailed off as my fireteam left. Trying to do anything in the Dark Zone, which was pretty much the only way to farm, solo was a nightmare. Tried Division 2 and ground out max level mostly solo. Not enough players when I was dabbling to be able to get a raid team together. Hope it's enjoyable for everyone now, hats off for sticking it out. I don't see myself falling back into that particular series again.
The community is absolutely thriving. The revamp of the seasons is just a way to continue keeping the game fresh and it absolutely works.
i took maybe a year off div2. still play it daily. Game is hella fun, and the vibe is so dang good. Glad to be part of the community.
I still rock The Division 1 every so often. War-torn NYC in the middle of winter is just visual perfection.
And Survival was the best DLC I've picked up for any game, ever.
I made an amazing friend in that game, we planned to meet up in person several times but life got in the way. We had each other's numbers and we're basically best friends instantly over division 1. The division was an amazing game.
I will say I started playing this a month ago on my XBX and it was a blast to the past seeing my character with the exotics that I have and being able to run around with people. Just to give you a heads up In Warlords of NY, the Sunken Tanker Mission is bugged where you cannot access the mission. You would need someone who has completed that mission to start it and you fast travel to them. If you try to go there on foot, you be greeted by an invisible barrier the 3 minutes later, you get a Delta-08 error code. Already reported to Ubisoft
Division 2 got me through the later days of the pandemic. Awesome game, I lost interest after 240 hours or so. I might try and get back into it again, I had a blast with it a few years ago.
Played td1 for 500 hours and am going on 600 hours in td2, I love this franchise so damn much, I always come back to it sooner or later
Completely unrelated to the topic of discussion, but I love this video form factor. The shorts are great but this longer video form factor feels more genuine especially when you're talking about something you're passionate about. Great video and now I must get back on TD2. See ya in the streets!!
"Bullet Gun" I'm dying XD So glad to hear you enjoy Div2 a couple friends and I have always played from beta Div1 and omfg YES the crashes! Have to admit they did impact our enjoyment vs frustration ratios in a neggy way as well. Hope to see some Div2 content from you that would be awesome
I was a huge fan of the original. New York City at Christmas just captured that eerie feeling of despair brilliantly. I never really appreciated Division 2 until recently when ( after 1,000's of hours ) I finally came to realise Destiny was not only on a steady decline since sunsetting but it's trajectory now was a swan dive past the point of no return.
Division 2 is a beautiful game. Returning and New players are separated from "veteran" players until they reach a certain level. Giving you more than enough time to create your character, fine tune your build and become familiar with the game mechanics. It's a lot of fun.
Div 2 was one of the best looter shooters of the decade, that dynamic map was amazing
I literally never had an issue with the crashes but I still love the game, the series and just wish Ubisoft gave the Division 2 a more dedicated team instead of breaking it up and giving it around to other game projects.
I have 379 hours into the steam version currently and I highly recommend it. It's has been stable for most of my game time. The gunplay is satisfying, the leveling/story progression feel's good, the ambience/scenery is immersive and then there's the amazing soundtrack composed by Ola Strandh which really brings it altogether. I even play the soundtrack at the gym or at work. I'll admit, it's hard to keep track of all the character's roles in the story, but you do understand your role and the bigger picture. (For additional lore, I go to NGN's channel).
Currently me and my GF covered most of the content on global difficulty: heroic. We now just roam the city, finishing random events, bounties, collecting audio logs, to even escorting friendly supply convoys while they mourn about losing the convivences of their past life before the outbreak.
I had the crash bug, it wasnt good... but the community still keeps on going! I recently reinstalled it and still enjoy it!
The game is super fun. I played the hell out of it during 'Rona. Stopped when it got old.
Picked it up again. It is the same but different. Good. Recommended. 😊
Been playing it for years. With all its flaws its a pretty good game and the community is also great!! you should get back to it.
Your love for the division, earns the sub. If you didn't already earn it before.
I actually just jumped back into Div2 recently, not even knowing about all the changes that has happened. It has been super fun. Runs pretty stable, builds feel good, lots of stuff to do.
They 100% knew about the crashing issues because they would address it in live streams.
So many good memories from both 1 & 2! Remember getting the Ravenous on my first raid clear in 2 and i was so psyched! 100's of hours just playing around with different loadouts trying to get the perfect pieces, collecting exotics, Underground and trying to push Resistance solo to collect set items in 1, the games were grindy as hell before you could re-roll stats and i loved it! I really wanted go in again after this video, but just found out it does not support cross-save.. And being the absolute loot goblin that i am, i really don't want to start all over again
I’ve been a TD2 player since Y1S2 and it still stands as one of my top 5 favorite games. The build crafting depth is so much fun to mess around with and it’s so user friendly. 10/10 would recommend, even more so now that the dlc isn’t required to reach endgame.
i'll be honest, i never played this game for years and finally grabbed it on sale a month ago and have been loving the feck outta this thing.
I still cant get over division 1's snowy atmosphere, music, vfx and expansions. Somehow reminds me of skyrim in a weird way.
I have played many RPG looter shooters over the years and yet none of them have kept me invested for as long as The Division 1 and 2. The atmosphere is goated, the gunplay is addicting and I always found it interesting how they managed to make an RPG take place in a contemporary/relatable setting and make it work.
Instead of swords, bows and wands you get different archetypes of guns
Instead of magical spells you get skills like turrets, shields and drones
And Instead of potions you get consumables like armor kits and special ammo for your gun.
Is the game unrealistic? Absolutely, just look at some of the raid and manhunt bosses. They ain't trying to hide it lol. but once you understand that this game isn't trying to be realistic shooter and treat it like an RPG with guns you're likely gonna have alot more fun with it.
I barely got into the end game stuff of Division 2 before i stopped playing. Like i had only just cleared first world and wasn't even max lvl. I played it a ton recently and realised how much content i missed. I've got all the current DLC now and have greatly enjoyed the game again. I loved it so much, and still do.
I could listen to these personal view history lessons on gaming for years.
I've been playing Division 2 for a couple years now, maybe three, and I've logged around 1700 hours in that time. While it can't hold my interest *perpetually*, I have come back to the game multiple times and immediately started having fun again. Regardless, I play every Friday night with family, and that is always a fun time.
Making new builds in this game is *great*. Umbra+Fox+Centurion is my current favorite by a big margin, it makes my guns shoot absurdly fast and is a really comfy setup. The UIC15 MOD2 is my *baby*, but there's a Rifle sound bug in co-op, so for the sake of my teammates' ears, I run a Measured Lexington. A lovely gun. It's raised from 850 RPM to 1300 RPM+. Complemented by an Iron Lung LMG. I love this build so much lol.
Burn > Laser > Burn > Laser...
Still playing division 2 here! the games been patched a ton and crashing issues are pretty much a thing of the past lol. Would highly recommend this game to anybody now. its super fun.
There were not only crashing issues but also old bugs that were not fixed, for example, the screen would suddenly go dark. When exiting the settlement head room we can't walk if we skip it by pressing the f key. Turrets that suddenly crash. Drones that cannot be controlled. And there are many other bugs in the division 2
Early this year I played through the game with three other friends, I like many years prior just had no issues running this game, ran flawlessly for me almost no crashes or graphical bugs. But all three of my friends would run into graphical bugs all the time, two of them had more powerful PCs one had a less powerful one like it didn't make any sense. It was maddening for me because the game has and was always running smoothly for me with no issues. I consider myself to be one of the very lucky few that never experienced any issues playing Divison 2 as I know it was exceedingly rare.
This also happened with Blacklight Retribution several years ago, you would get booted after an hour if you were level 30+, and then you couldn't login. It went on for a good 3 years. They eventually fixed the issue (and removed Australian servers) but the game slowly dwindled and died in 2019.
As a division 1 vet I liked the division 2 with it first came out. But having been away for years loading up the map is so overwhelming
I loved this game. I had to stop when I went back to school, and no one wanted to play with my shoddy playtime schedule.
I still play Division 2 on PS5 most days. Delta errors plagued the Iron Horse raid when the raid launched but it's pretty stable on console
I played The Division 2 on Xbox and it was a really fun game, never played D1. I wanted to play D2 when I got my first pc, but I heard the game would always crash so I never got it then. Seeing the game somehow reviving a little on PC shows that people really love this franchise and are willing to give it another chance. And that is what happens when you treat your audience nicely and not just hopefully cash in for your shareholders
I remember that vividly. Had a friend I really wanted to play with. When it worked we had so much fun but it was like 20% of the time it worked. Really sad because it is a fun game especially with friends
i remember this back on console years ago, now that im on pc, ive crashed twice, i remember constant deltas in summit, done 1-100 floors without any problems, pretty good and stable as of last week
Played D2 a lot from the launch time. Never seen any crashes... This whole video is such a suprise for me
It's a shame cause Division 2 was a good game!
I guess it's good again.
It really is! Super frustrating. Hopefully the Division 3 fixes the technical issues
@@ICannotGame indeed agreed 👍
Dead game
I regret selling my Xbox One, Series X sucks running this game well any ubisoft game in general.
I stopped playing because doing the same missions over and over got boring. Nothing new to earn, the seasons were boring and they kept nerfing what worked to make us feel powerful, while at the same time buffing NPCs that were already cracked😂 now ubisoft is sinking so there’s little hope for a Div 3.
I loved Division 2 some of the best environmental storytelling in a game. Just terminally buggy though.
I think over a year is an understatement. I reinstalled the game several times over several years and the crash was there every time and it always killed my playthroughs.
I am glad that Division is picking pace back up. It is such a fun game.
I still play this game and love it. 5 x XP this whole past weekend. Been playing since day one. It’s had its ups and downs for sure but it scratches the itch for what I want out of a game. They just need to bring the vibe of TD1 back. Oh, I was in the TD2 beta too as well. Got the Capital Hill backpack trophy or “dongle” as you called it, haha!
I love this series. I get a great satisfaction running turret/drone in 2 and turret/seeker in 1. The first one stole me from the Earth for a solid year. The second one was awesome. The crash is why i stopped. Didn't play for years. Jumped back on this summer and had fun over the summer. It wasn't a ghost town game yet. Still empty. If you play the game long enough, even post fix, you're gonna get used to seeing FOXTROT
Been playing this a lot the past couple months and was surprised how much fun it is
Still playing the game on Xbox since early 2021 and I can say in my experience it is incredible
I love the games so much I still load up Division 1 on PS5 just to play Survival. With this information I will give Division 2 another shot as well.
Glad to hear Pirate aliked the Division. Cuz yeah, it's such an incredible Looter Shooter with incredible build-crafting and RPG mechanics. But the crashes were absurd. Glad it's fixed now. I've jumped back in within the last couple weeks myself. Hope Pirate can enjoy this game again, cuz there's seriously good bones in this franchise.
I look back on both games very fondly despite the flaws. Looters shooters are my comfort no brain games to play when wanting to chill out.
Thank you for talking about this.
Me and my friend both bought the Division 2 but were unable to continue playing or get a refund since the game would constantly crash after the 70~ hour mark.
It especially sucks since the game was genuinely amazing but I couldn't in good faith recommend others the game because it was literally unplayable.
I love the division 2, my Discord was division themed for years, and now my protogen is division themed. I played on console and dodged all the issues and it was fixed by the time I picked it up on Steam
I'm so happy to hear a big creator like Thor talking about The Division. My favorite game that no one I know plays.
And they sold 40 million copies to date!
The game still crashes all the time for me and its super frustrating because I REALLY liked it. Some of the best third-person shooter gameplay in a game.
Yep, long crashing period pretty much killed it. Before frequent crashes started to happen, had like 15-20 active players in clan playing every day. A good portion of players left mainly because of crash issues and now can someday only see few survivors left.
I was a launch player and this issue absolutely drove me away for a long time. I've started playing again and really enjoy it; there's nothing quite like The Division when it comes to atmosphere and realistic setting details. They very nearly dropped the ball yet again with Seasons 2.0, though--Washington D.C. was stable, but players were getting disconnected constantly on the NYC map, like every 5-20 minutes. Thankfully they were able to fix the issue pretty quickly this time, and the game is overall very stable these days.
There was also an issue on PC where Easy AntiCheat would think OBS was a cheat client, and would softlock your game, if you didn't have the game open for about 15-20 minutes PRIOR to opening OBS. It absolutely CRUSHED content from PC players, forcing people to either stream the game on console, or play different games (like Destiny 2). Combined with the otherwise-happening crashes, and basically no content creation from PC players, made nearly all PC players leave for a long time. This was something Massive could do nothing about, since it was an EAC problem, and they had no way of changing it. It took about 4-6 months for them to get the EAC team to fix it, which was definitely far from good.
The other issue was the complete radio-silence, due to Ubisoft moving the Massive development team to the Avatar game (which turned out great).
The development team went from like 300 to 40ish (which took a while for them to tell us), who were left responsible with-
1. Trying to revive a story that was left in a cut-off-head state, in terms of where it was progressed to.
2. Trying to update a game that was left in a nailed-coffin state, where it was never meant to be changed again.
3. Appeasing a terminally-pissed-off community due to the radio silence the development team had no choice over.
4. The impossible demands of parts of the community, who expect the same content the team made when it was 8-10x larger.
The game is still a blast, but that's kind of a problem. People love the game so much, they will willing play exclusively it, but then get burnt out super quick, since development can't keep up with their demands. It's kind of what happened to Helldiver's 2 initially, where they had to hire more people to make new stuff, since the demand was there. It's definitely still a ton of fun, and EXTREMELY fun in a squad of players together, but it just got mismanaged for so long, that it was suffocated.
100% worth trying it out again. 1 0 0 %.
Alternatively play through the first game again, since it's a masterpiece, and since there's still a pretty dedicated playerbase there EVERY DAY.
What did i miss here? I still keep playing this game since the release and i am right now the only one in our group who keeps actively playing it and i never experienced this type of bug myself. But maybe this explains why i got rarely other players through the search for missions. I was wondering why most of the times i could run the search for over a hour and nobody would join. Hopefully my buddy gets finally his first pc setup so we can finally play this great game together. To this day i'm still discovering new ways to play this game with different loadouts or approaches on gameplay.
Part of me feels like the game’s in need of a crossplay system. I migrated from PS4 to PC some time ago. I always had a Main Mission or two to do on work nights, queue near-instant on PS4. Now it’s hit-or-miss, especially on choosing a specific mission. What’s worse, it seems that the queue prioritizes ongoing missions rather than goobers like me waiting at the “start gate” of the mission with a sniper build, so you have to “force” up the queue by starting the mission first and hoping people join. A small annoyance but still there.
Yeah I was in the same boat, never really experienced any crashes.
I still play this game once in a while, my favorite looter shooter.
I started playing at release and it was fun then, as you said, crashes ruined it. I returned and got a couple crashes at first, then they did a patch and it's gone. I've been enjoying the hell out of it.
Welcome back Thor! Make sure you load in on your main character so you can get the best AR in the game...The Lexington!... a D1 throwback you're gonna love 🎉
And theres still another DLC planned for next year. Exciting stuff. Hope to see Thor playing division on stream sometime.
Oh the Division 2 is so good right now. The engine issues that plagued the game for so long were fixed. The devs said on multiple streams that whatever issue they had was really tough to track down. But they're gone now, and oh boy it's so much fun!
I'm also a fan of the story and world lore of the game, and man, they're cooking right now. The plot is so thick you can taste the intrigue in the air.
Am I the only one who chuckles each time I see the hashtag pants in these videos? Awesome work as always Sunder
Been playing since day one don’t remember it crashing that much but it did crash on me a couple times then again I was on PlayStation 4/5 I love this game. I’ll continue to play it until division 3 comes out.
As an avid player of this franchise on Xbox, I never seemed to have this issue, but I did hear about it. As for Thor who's going to tell him Division 3 is being developed
Great game. Big fan of the original and still remember the E3 2013 trailer that blew my socks off introducing the snowdrop engine. Played the game a lot for a year and came back couple years later and played the expansion. Missed out on the crashing bug but can only imagine how ridiculous that would have been.
I recently got back into div 2 and MAN I missed this game unlike any other
Played since day one, still playing, still loving it
I remember this, it was INFURIATING. As an IT guy, i went nuts trying to figure it out. It caused me to leave
Hunting for masks was also fun, i remember when the screen starts to glitch out indicating their presence, gets me excited
As someone who stuck through Div2 during the hard times, when the game works right and runs great, its honestly a su0per fun game to play with friends, but when it's being too buggy or not operating correctly it's a massive drag
i did not know this. i played it on release and then later in mid 2023 with a buddy for weeks, doing sessions of like 10-20h without any bugs or issues, crazy how i havent even noticed that there was such a huge issue with the game for the majority of ppl.