I do think they could implement virtual shifting in v5, but wahoo, prefer to leave v5 owners with an incentive to switch to v6. Of cause this is only me guessing. 😊
Wahoo have put themselves in a bit of a situation in making promised that they can't keep. It's not made v4/v5 exactly obsolete, they still work, but it's ended their useful lifespan and seriously dented their reseller value. It's also downgraded the number of Zwift Cog & later Zwift frame & v2 Cog that would be sold as upgrades.I can't see Zwift being particularly impressed. Now, what are Wahoo going to do about it? Trade-in for a v6 is not going to be easy. You're not exactly sending back a smartphone. The Kickr v6 is currently at a ~25% discount, at least in the UK, I presume for summer. This will have to stay at minimum if Wahoo are going to incentivise upgrade from v4/5. I'd add on as well at least a £100 discount for validated purchases of v4/5 Kickrs from authority stores. But of a pickle they've dropped themselves into. If I was JetBlack I'd be rubbing my hands right now.
It is a shame, but suspect there are connection and control protocol limitations Wahoo have decided they can't work with or around in the older trainers. Or it could be a cynical play to sell more current model trainers 🤷♂️ We'll never know. Indievelo supports virtual shifting on a large range of trainers so it's clearly a 'Zwift issue' rather than a broad hardware limitation.
Was going to get a Zwift bike frame for my V5.. I am not buying anything Wahoo after this and recommending no one else touch their stuff. We invest a huge amount of money into these setups and this feels like a slap in the face telling me to buy more because I wont support your previous top of the line generation so I can make you buy more.
It's very curious that the Core, which has been described as a scaled-down V3 with mechanical changes can do it, while the V4 and V5 supposedly can't. It takes a really naive mind to not be at least a little sceptical of the information from Wahoo.
I would hope that they made some changes to enable it and that they aren't talking crap about the V3/5 in the vain hope of selling a few more units. I can't imagine that many of us will rush out to spend £1000 or so to have virtual shifting vs just using our old "dumb" smart trainer that does everything else perfectly.
I wrote to wahoo support and this is their answer: Thank you for writing into Wahoo Customer Support. At this time we do not have a timeline for integrating Zwift virtual shifting into the KICKR V5 or V4. However, we do hope to make this a priority in the future. So either they are not informed or wahoo needs to make more clarification on this, not relying on media agency representatives to make the statement but to send an official PR with the decision and official statement. Not hiding it in the support section of the site
@@ignaciosevil2157 I don’t think it’s necessarily better, however, it’s much more convenient to live with, as you won’t rely on always having the right size cassette on your trainer (in case you have different bikes) or always ride in erg mode. That’s my perspective at least - I’m also struggling to believe that it’s not possible to update v4’s and v5’s.
Wahoo are going down the crapper. Their customer service used to be excellent, but after the piss poor service I recently received from them, my v5 Kickr is the last Wahoo product I will own.
@gplama A great video would be a clear explanation of why it is not possible to implement virtual shifting on the client software side instead of the trainer firmware side. IndieVelo does it. What is lost? And if it is just the "feel" of the shift (because perhaps the trainer can add a split second of resistance bump), why not have a backup strategy anyway and allow either option to work?
Hi Shane - just a note, you only can have the white Tron bike if you have the Zwift Ride bike. Us mortals living in areas its not available, or cant afford it, we stay with the black frame
GP Lama: a great video would be a clear explanation of why it is not possible for Zwift to mimic what IndieVelo does, and implement the virtual shifting on the client software instead of using trainer firmware. What is lost when doing this on the client? And even if something is lost (e.g., in terms of "feeling" the shift), why not have both options available?
Thanks for the update video, the pairing no drop is welcomed addition. Just going to add to the absolute frustration of being a v5 owner, Wahoo really pooped the bed on this one.
Wahoo lied. I bought Play Controllers *because* they lied. I'm not sure what my next move should be. Maybe a JetBlack Victory and slamming Wahoo at every opportunity.
It is a shame, but suspect there are connection and control protocol limitations Wahoo have decided they can't work with or around in the older trainers. Or it could be a cynical play to sell more current model trainers 🤷♂️ We'll never know. Indievelo supports virtual shifting on a large range of trainers so it's clearly a 'Zwift issue' rather than a broad hardware limitation.
In relation to the Zwift ride/cog I was already "out" because I like my Climb too much for the Ride, and use too many of the trainer features on my Garmin for the cog, but I feel for those who decided to purchase the more advanced V5, (and arguably the V4) over the core based on a promise presented like it was a future certainty, only to have their dreams dashed on the rocks. If this is a commercial decision, I think Wahoo and Zwift will regret it, especially if Wahoo made some kind of deal not to develop independent, trainer based virtual shifting, because that's where other manufacturers are heading.
So glad I’ve built a dedicated fixie on my v5 🙄 oh wahoo, the chances of you getting more business from me without an attractive trade in are near 0. Why make the commitment just to walk it back? Customer relationship management 101 failed.
Just to mention that the 1.13 version of the launcher is also available if you use winget to upgrade your existing installation of the launcher on windows.
I have been very happy with my Wahoo v5 Kickr trainer. It’s been great. However, as Wahoo have now backflipped and announced no virtual shifting support for v4/5 riders, I have now mothballed my plan to purchase the Zwift Ride standalone bike to go with my V5 when available (if that isn’t cancelled as well). Sometimes I wonder if these types of misleading and false statements by companies are just part of the marketing hype train… I was a passionate Wahoo recommender before, however, my views have changed and they are now back in the mix with everyone else.
Any news when wahoo kickr bike shift will or will not get Race Mode support? Good I bought the zwift virtual shift kit anyways for my V5, while waiting, just to be "safe" 😂
Sorry if this is obvious guys but I'm now to all of this...I'm looking at buying a used Wahoo Kickr Bike v1 and using that as my intro to zwift. Would that be negatively affected by this? I guess I could buy a Zwift Ride instead but I really like the idea of the gradient changes on the Wahoo Kickr bike
Likely by tweaking the gradient sent to the trainer and/or tweaking the trainer wheel size setting in real-time. Wheel size tweaking on the Kickr range is a neat hack. I’m not sure it works on other trainers. Either way, it’s the integration with the Zwift controllers that is the second piece of the puzzle.
Virtual shifting can be done in the software by adjusting the resistance/speed characteristics. IndieVelo does it. Works with any smart trainer. Sadly, this is the downside of the Zwift-Wahoo friendship. Zwift aren't going to do it in software so Wahoo get to sell more trainers - but from the look of those new trainers at Eurobike I won't be replacing my 2017 kickr with anything from Wahoo while this current nonsense prevails.
Is it possible to change any of the displays on Zwift ? Being a very old person heart rate is more relatable than watts if I could put that at the top on the display it would be really useful
I wonder what is technically withholding them from bringing virtual shifting to the Kickr V5, since the V6 is the exact same unit but with WIFI support and therefore race mode… I mean really ? There’s a port to insert a network cable so the V5 could be more reliable if it’s the network requirement. I think they just want to sell more hardware, and that’s disappointing, when choosing my Kickr I went for the top notch, thinking it would continue to be supported, but as I can see now, you’re better off with the cheapest Kickr product. Knowing that 2,5 years ago would have saved me 500€ !
Wahoo have stated it's a hardware limitation. I suspect there's a significant difference between the V5 and the V6 in the firmware. I suspect it's more than just changing ERG mode to do more.
@@jamesmckenzie3532yep, the technical issue is - they won't get any people buying a V6 if they are happy with the V4 and V5. The core is able to get shifting, because it's still on sale...
It is a shame, but suspect there are connection and control protocol limitations Wahoo have decided they can't work with or around in the older trainers. Or it could be a cynical play to sell more current model trainers 🤷♂️ We'll never know. Indievelo supports virtual shifting on a large range of trainers so it's clearly a 'Zwift issue' rather than a broad hardware limitation.
my kickr move (v6 bacily) has had an issue where it no longer responded to the virtual shifting. A power cycle or connecting through bluetooth (instead of wifi) was a fix. The kickr core had no such issue. So I'm bound to believe there really is an issue with the older kickr's that not that easily explained. I also doubt this is really a move to push people to newer hardware, virtual shifting is hardly the selling point to get a new one.
Can anyone please advise i have recently purchased a Reebok fr30 indoor bike i am trying to connect to zwift on the pairing screen cadence is connecting Resistance is connecting but the power source is saying no signal . When i insert the dongle into the console on the bike it picks it up . Confused hope someone can advise Please 🙏
Kickr V5 being incompatible with Virtual Shiftng, while almost identical V6 and technically inferior Kickr Core are, is insulting to people common sense.
Any ideas what the technical differences are between a core and V5 that allows virtual shifting on one but not the other???? Guessing since core is the "zwift" option it must others are at Wahoo discretion...
Hi Shane, I thought the next update was going to show Calories or KJs in the riding window- or am I totally wrong? I’d like to ride to calorific values as it helps me managw food etc
May be a basic question but how do you get to the pairing screen so fast in ride. I went to menu and then scrolled to connections. I like your direct approach much better
When giving thumbs up on Apple TV it doesn't show who's getting them like when using the companion app. Wondering if this is normal or a bug. Secondly, I love Zwifting but I feel like they keep moving the goal posts on us... Not sure I love that.
Anyone else having issues to connect zwift play controllers to mac? Since last update they will only connect to the Zwift companion app but not to the game itself. (and yes I'm on the lastest firmware for the controllers)
@@gplama they talk about hw and sw differences. For the software it's just a matter of programming, the hardware between v5 and v6 are the same. My opinion is that it is just a commercial choice...but this is only my opinion...
I'm running a V5 and a Zwift annual that runs out in November (The RGT compensation from Wahoo).... As I've had a dodgy SNAP before and my V5 is a warranty replacement for one that died completely in less than 4 months of actual use, when Zwift runs out I'm going back to iV and when the V5 dies I'll use my JB Volt2 back up trainer.... No money going to Wahoo or Zwift they're both a pair of cun...who take the piss out of their customers.
Companies these days are so toothless. Several years ago Tacx/Garmin would've jumped on this opportunity and introduced virtual shifting to all their trainers (virtual shifting is just changing resistance, is it not?). But in 2024 they don't attack each other anymore and just go hand-in-hand.
It is a shame. Indievelo supports virtual shifting on a large range of trainers so it's clearly a 'Zwift issue' rather than a broad hardware limitation.
It's probably why the Jet Black Volt 2 has been rolled back to manual calibration etc and will likely never see virtual shifting like the identical "hub" as well as the V5... they've fu&%ed us over in the hope we'll upgrade and remain loyal to them...what a bizarre thing to do.... I reckon the V5's will all be knackered before long if my one was anything to go by and once out of warranty I'l bet a repair will be so expensive and such a hassle they'll be hoping we scrap them and upgrade....fools.
The steering force field indicators just show how poorly and inconsistently the "lanes" don't match the on-screen view of the road surface. You don't mention the VERY worst "feature" of the update - automated steering - which forces you back towards the centre of the lane for NO apparent reason after 10 seconds of no steering input - that's a JOKE.
Still you can not paint other bikes any color you like. Soon 10 years anniversary, and no such a basic feature, while decent company during this period can make full GTA 6 game which doesnt even have 20€/month subscription... Just squirrel ears and "u not lvl 100 yet with over one million xp" we get - a total disgrace for long term users.
At this point all I want is better graphics. Play gt7 or F1 on PS5, then ride on Zwift and cry. Even with your pc, which is clearer than mine, we are talking 2009 graphics at best.
Sorry my question was badly worded (and I’m a noob). I’m curious if my Kickr Core is a Version 4 or Version 5 as described in the video (or something else entirely)? Apologies for my ignorance.
If you purchased an expensive piece of kit on promises, then you deserve to pay even more to compensate the rest of us for being in the aura of your stupidity.
Why would there be a refund when the promise was made AFTER people bought the hardware? The promise was made just a couple months ago after V4/V5 were discontinued.
Interesting. The Victory isn’t available yet. The Kickr 5 issue wasn’t technically a lie, they mentioned it’d support something (that it was never sold with as supporting) then walked that back at a later date. If the Victory (when released) ends up being a potato, that’s going to be awkward for you.
Probably in the minority here but I couldn't care less about virtual shifting lol... I want to use and feel the real gears on my bike, not a clunky dummy cog with little keychain "shifter" 😄
As a TH-camr surely it is your direct accountability to deal with Wahoo and get them to change their decision? I''m shocked that it's not been done already...oh, please can you also arrange for me to have the moon on a stick. Thanks.
I think the white frame option is for people using the zwift play controllers, an easter egg for zwift ride buyers
Ohh.... yes. I should have mentioned that. Good pick-up.
I have this Zwift play controllers, however, not being offered the white frame for the Tron bike.
Wont be purchasing anymore Wahoo products after this - what a joke! I dont believe its a technical limitation for a second.
I do think they could implement virtual shifting in v5, but wahoo, prefer to leave v5 owners with an incentive to switch to v6. Of cause this is only me guessing. 😊
Wahoo have put themselves in a bit of a situation in making promised that they can't keep. It's not made v4/v5 exactly obsolete, they still work, but it's ended their useful lifespan and seriously dented their reseller value. It's also downgraded the number of Zwift Cog & later Zwift frame & v2 Cog that would be sold as upgrades.I can't see Zwift being particularly impressed.
Now, what are Wahoo going to do about it? Trade-in for a v6 is not going to be easy. You're not exactly sending back a smartphone.
The Kickr v6 is currently at a ~25% discount, at least in the UK, I presume for summer. This will have to stay at minimum if Wahoo are going to incentivise upgrade from v4/5. I'd add on as well at least a £100 discount for validated purchases of v4/5 Kickrs from authority stores.
But of a pickle they've dropped themselves into. If I was JetBlack I'd be rubbing my hands right now.
It is a shame, but suspect there are connection and control protocol limitations Wahoo have decided they can't work with or around in the older trainers. Or it could be a cynical play to sell more current model trainers 🤷♂️ We'll never know.
Indievelo supports virtual shifting on a large range of trainers so it's clearly a 'Zwift issue' rather than a broad hardware limitation.
Wow gutted, had my eye on picking up a frame for my V5, there goes that plan.
Same here, I just bought my v5 a few weeks ago because of wahoos promise too. I really hope they make it right somehow…
Was going to get a Zwift bike frame for my V5.. I am not buying anything Wahoo after this and recommending no one else touch their stuff. We invest a huge amount of money into these setups and this feels like a slap in the face telling me to buy more because I wont support your previous top of the line generation so I can make you buy more.
It's very curious that the Core, which has been described as a scaled-down V3 with mechanical changes can do it, while the V4 and V5 supposedly can't. It takes a really naive mind to not be at least a little sceptical of the information from Wahoo.
I would hope that they made some changes to enable it and that they aren't talking crap about the V3/5 in the vain hope of selling a few more units. I can't imagine that many of us will rush out to spend £1000 or so to have virtual shifting vs just using our old "dumb" smart trainer that does everything else perfectly.
@@mctrials23 I’d specifically not be buying a wahoo, JetBlack is looking pretty attractive as an alternative
I wrote to wahoo support and this is their answer:
Thank you for writing into Wahoo Customer Support. At this time we do not have a timeline for integrating Zwift virtual shifting into the KICKR V5 or V4. However, we do hope to make this a priority in the future.
So either they are not informed or wahoo needs to make more clarification on this, not relying on media agency representatives to make the statement but to send an official PR with the decision and official statement. Not hiding it in the support section of the site
Bye Bye Wahoo, my next trainer will definitely be from a different brand. An older and cheaper device gets an update and my V5 doesn't?
If you had the option to buy a v5 for 500$ would you do it? Is virtual shifting that good?
@@ignaciosevil2157 I don’t think it’s necessarily better, however, it’s much more convenient to live with, as you won’t rely on always having the right size cassette on your trainer (in case you have different bikes) or always ride in erg mode. That’s my perspective at least - I’m also struggling to believe that it’s not possible to update v4’s and v5’s.
The V6 was originally described as mechanically the same as the V5. Software changes should be manageable. Piss poor explanation from Wahoo.
Wahoo are going down the crapper. Their customer service used to be excellent, but after the piss poor service I recently received from them, my v5 Kickr is the last Wahoo product I will own.
Even Kickr Core is compatible. How the fuck V5 isn't? 😅
I bought a V5 after the promise of virtuel shifting… possibly better idea to “downgrade” to a core?
@gplama A great video would be a clear explanation of why it is not possible to implement virtual shifting on the client software side instead of the trainer firmware side. IndieVelo does it. What is lost? And if it is just the "feel" of the shift (because perhaps the trainer can add a split second of resistance bump), why not have a backup strategy anyway and allow either option to work?
Hi Shane - just a note, you only can have the white Tron bike if you have the Zwift Ride bike. Us mortals living in areas its not available, or cant afford it, we stay with the black frame
GP Lama: a great video would be a clear explanation of why it is not possible for Zwift to mimic what IndieVelo does, and implement the virtual shifting on the client software instead of using trainer firmware. What is lost when doing this on the client? And even if something is lost (e.g., in terms of "feeling" the shift), why not have both options available?
This. Virtual shifting works on IndieVelo, on any trainer. Zwift could do the same.
Thanks for the update video, the pairing no drop is welcomed addition.
Just going to add to the absolute frustration of being a v5 owner, Wahoo really pooped the bed on this one.
Lmao, Wahoo pulled a Garmin with that one lol.
Wahoo lied. I bought Play Controllers *because* they lied. I'm not sure what my next move should be. Maybe a JetBlack Victory and slamming Wahoo at every opportunity.
Thanks as always Shane. Still have my Kickr Core...poor Wahoo, two steps forward, three steps back.
Another great video by the Lama. Very informative. But I was suprised that you are only on level 81 😁
Llama rocking the Dan Andrews North Face top. Get on the beers…….. ^h^h^h^h ….. zwifts.
Really poor from Wahoo. It’s clearly possible to get those trainers virtual shifting otherwise they wouldn’t have promised it in the 1st place.
It is a shame, but suspect there are connection and control protocol limitations Wahoo have decided they can't work with or around in the older trainers. Or it could be a cynical play to sell more current model trainers 🤷♂️ We'll never know.
Indievelo supports virtual shifting on a large range of trainers so it's clearly a 'Zwift issue' rather than a broad hardware limitation.
@@jasonhurst2491 I would believe it if the Wahoo Core itself (that support it) was not as old.
Possible they may have spoken too soon, and now have to eat their words....
Wahoo wants you to buy new gear... no way they can't make this happen through a firmware update.
In relation to the Zwift ride/cog I was already "out" because I like my Climb too much for the Ride, and use too many of the trainer features on my Garmin for the cog, but I feel for those who decided to purchase the more advanced V5, (and arguably the V4) over the core based on a promise presented like it was a future certainty, only to have their dreams dashed on the rocks. If this is a commercial decision, I think Wahoo and Zwift will regret it, especially if Wahoo made some kind of deal not to develop independent, trainer based virtual shifting, because that's where other manufacturers are heading.
Thankyou for the sneaky news 👍
But when will we get Dylan Groenewegen’s nose glasses?!?!?! 🐤
So glad I’ve built a dedicated fixie on my v5 🙄 oh wahoo, the chances of you getting more business from me without an attractive trade in are near 0. Why make the commitment just to walk it back? Customer relationship management 101 failed.
strange.. the older core can support virtual shifting and the V4 and V5 not.. hmm...
Totally agree… this is stupid
Yep… Feel Bad for Wahoo… I too am waiting for the Jet Black to be released 🤞👍🚴♀️🚴♂️🚴♀️🚴♂️
Wahoo you should really save your brand and deliver the update
Heard melbourne weather not better after a month … I think I need this Zwift again next week
Just to mention that the 1.13 version of the launcher is also available if you use winget to upgrade your existing installation of the launcher on windows.
I have been very happy with my Wahoo v5 Kickr trainer. It’s been great. However, as Wahoo have now backflipped and announced no virtual shifting support for v4/5 riders, I have now mothballed my plan to purchase the Zwift Ride standalone bike to go with my V5 when available (if that isn’t cancelled as well). Sometimes I wonder if these types of misleading and false statements by companies are just part of the marketing hype train… I was a passionate Wahoo recommender before, however, my views have changed and they are now back in the mix with everyone else.
I dropped Wahoo when they dropped RGT (Road Grand Tours). I no longer support Wahoo or any of their products. I will not recommend Wahoo to anyone.
Any news when wahoo kickr bike shift will or will not get Race Mode support?
Good I bought the zwift virtual shift kit anyways for my V5, while waiting, just to be "safe" 😂
Sorry if this is obvious guys but I'm now to all of this...I'm looking at buying a used Wahoo Kickr Bike v1 and using that as my intro to zwift. Would that be negatively affected by this? I guess I could buy a Zwift Ride instead but I really like the idea of the gradient changes on the Wahoo Kickr bike
The pairing screen update!!!! Oh hells yeah!!! About time 😀
IndieVelo offers virtual gearing to all trainers including Tacx Neo so how is that achieved?
Likely by tweaking the gradient sent to the trainer and/or tweaking the trainer wheel size setting in real-time. Wheel size tweaking on the Kickr range is a neat hack. I’m not sure it works on other trainers. Either way, it’s the integration with the Zwift controllers that is the second piece of the puzzle.
A simple hook on ANT+/BLE layer can do the trick. This shall be done by virtual cycling software rather than hardware.
I would like to use virtual shifting but i cant see myself getting a new trainer just for that
Virtual shifting can be done in the software by adjusting the resistance/speed characteristics. IndieVelo does it. Works with any smart trainer. Sadly, this is the downside of the Zwift-Wahoo friendship. Zwift aren't going to do it in software so Wahoo get to sell more trainers - but from the look of those new trainers at Eurobike I won't be replacing my 2017 kickr with anything from Wahoo while this current nonsense prevails.
Exactly.
Is it possible to change any of the displays on Zwift ? Being a very old person heart rate is more relatable than watts if I could put that at the top on the display it would be really useful
I spy those Off the MAAP 2022 socks! Deep cut!
I wonder what is technically withholding them from bringing virtual shifting to the Kickr V5, since the V6 is the exact same unit but with WIFI support and therefore race mode… I mean really ? There’s a port to insert a network cable so the V5 could be more reliable if it’s the network requirement. I think they just want to sell more hardware, and that’s disappointing, when choosing my Kickr I went for the top notch, thinking it would continue to be supported, but as I can see now, you’re better off with the cheapest Kickr product. Knowing that 2,5 years ago would have saved me 500€ !
Wahoo have stated it's a hardware limitation. I suspect there's a significant difference between the V5 and the V6 in the firmware. I suspect it's more than just changing ERG mode to do more.
@@jamesmckenzie3532yep, the technical issue is - they won't get any people buying a V6 if they are happy with the V4 and V5. The core is able to get shifting, because it's still on sale...
It is a shame, but suspect there are connection and control protocol limitations Wahoo have decided they can't work with or around in the older trainers. Or it could be a cynical play to sell more current model trainers 🤷♂️ We'll never know.
Indievelo supports virtual shifting on a large range of trainers so it's clearly a 'Zwift issue' rather than a broad hardware limitation.
I updated to 1.69 and - at a minimum - I don't have options to change tron bike color. What's going on here?
my kickr move (v6 bacily) has had an issue where it no longer responded to the virtual shifting. A power cycle or connecting through bluetooth (instead of wifi) was a fix. The kickr core had no such issue. So I'm bound to believe there really is an issue with the older kickr's that not that easily explained.
I also doubt this is really a move to push people to newer hardware, virtual shifting is hardly the selling point to get a new one.
Can anyone please advise i have recently purchased a Reebok fr30 indoor bike i am trying to connect to zwift on the pairing screen cadence is connecting Resistance is connecting but the power source is saying no signal . When i insert the dongle into the console on the bike it picks it up . Confused hope someone can advise Please 🙏
Kickr V5 being incompatible with Virtual Shiftng, while almost identical V6 and technically inferior Kickr Core are, is insulting to people common sense.
Any ideas what the technical differences are between a core and V5 that allows virtual shifting on one but not the other???? Guessing since core is the "zwift" option it must others are at Wahoo discretion...
Funny how if you buy the recently released Zwift Ride and Core you get virtual shift and a fancy new white paint job. Coincidence? 🤔
wahoo is running after tesla ,... empty promisses like on the cybertruck lol. their goes the value lol
Still no Zwift Mario Kart tho 🙁
Hi Shane, I thought the next update was going to show Calories or KJs in the riding window- or am I totally wrong? I’d like to ride to calorific values as it helps me managw food etc
I believe that will be part of the HUD update that should be arriving soon…. I hope!
May be a basic question but how do you get to the pairing screen so fast in ride. I went to menu and then scrolled to connections. I like your direct approach much better
Press A on the keyboard.
@@gplama Thanks, Is it possible w/o k/b and zwift controllers/ apple tv / companion app
When giving thumbs up on Apple TV it doesn't show who's getting them like when using the companion app. Wondering if this is normal or a bug. Secondly, I love Zwifting but I feel like they keep moving the goal posts on us... Not sure I love that.
Disappointing news for my kickr 5... That makes the new JetBlack Victory veeeery tempting.
How about reviewing MyWhoosh!
Interestingly, my xp is approx. 1,190,000 but I'm only at level 96. To my understanding reaching one million would mean level 100?
This season on Zwift said the initial training API was supposed to be release late spring, what gives with that?
There's still time....
@@gplama I guess they didn't specify which hemisphere's spring they were referencing. Its Summer in the United States haha
Still waiting on the interval wattage averages during workouts.
is possible to see the gears on zwift using the kickr bike? thank you.
Not at this point. It's something that should have been added years ago, imo.
Anyone else having issues to connect zwift play controllers to mac? Since last update they will only connect to the Zwift companion app but not to the game itself. (and yes I'm on the lastest firmware for the controllers)
Anyone have an idea of when the HUD changes will be rolled out?
No word. I hope it will be rolled out soon.
Still no red paint?
so this also means that the frame will essentially be unusable for those who already have a wahoo v5...
Correct.
@@gplama they talk about hw and sw differences. For the software it's just a matter of programming, the hardware between v5 and v6 are the same. My opinion is that it is just a commercial choice...but this is only my opinion...
I'm running a V5 and a Zwift annual that runs out in November (The RGT compensation from Wahoo).... As I've had a dodgy SNAP before and my V5 is a warranty replacement for one that died completely in less than 4 months of actual use, when Zwift runs out I'm going back to iV and when the V5 dies I'll use my JB Volt2 back up trainer.... No money going to Wahoo or Zwift they're both a pair of cun...who take the piss out of their customers.
Companies these days are so toothless. Several years ago Tacx/Garmin would've jumped on this opportunity and introduced virtual shifting to all their trainers (virtual shifting is just changing resistance, is it not?). But in 2024 they don't attack each other anymore and just go hand-in-hand.
It is a shame. Indievelo supports virtual shifting on a large range of trainers so it's clearly a 'Zwift issue' rather than a broad hardware limitation.
It's probably why the Jet Black Volt 2 has been rolled back to manual calibration etc and will likely never see virtual shifting like the identical "hub" as well as the V5... they've fu&%ed us over in the hope we'll upgrade and remain loyal to them...what a bizarre thing to do.... I reckon the V5's will all be knackered before long if my one was anything to go by and once out of warranty I'l bet a repair will be so expensive and such a hassle they'll be hoping we scrap them and upgrade....fools.
Hmmm. They replaced my Kickr core with a Kickr 5. Very sneaky.
pffff finally not getting dropped while cursing at the wahoo tickr...
Get a polar h10. Tickr is trash.
When can we have a RED tron bike?!
I was on my way to level 100, then they jumped the price 33% and I told Zwift, "Harder to get ahold of my money now, ain't it"?
If I spent as much time on Zwift as I do watching your videos I would be a much better cyclist 😂
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Many V5's were bought during COVID lockdown; to hear a 4year old machine is already redundant is very annoying.
the xp going up a big put off. I'm level 57 new riders have no chance levelling up now without years and unlimited time to ride.
My v2 rides on…
GTA V bike mod supports virtual shifting for any trainer, that means what Wahoo says is clear BS.
The steering force field indicators just show how poorly and inconsistently the "lanes" don't match the on-screen view of the road surface.
You don't mention the VERY worst "feature" of the update - automated steering - which forces you back towards the centre of the lane for NO apparent reason after 10 seconds of no steering input - that's a JOKE.
They rolled that back yesterday: forums.zwift.com/t/automatic-avatar-steering-update-july-2024/
@@gplama Great news, thanks for the link 🙂
Sadly I'm not really surprised a company like Wahoo has taken this long to determine they can't do it. Pathetic.
Still you can not paint other bikes any color you like. Soon 10 years anniversary, and no such a basic feature, while decent company during this period can make full GTA 6 game which doesnt even have 20€/month subscription... Just squirrel ears and "u not lvl 100 yet with over one million xp" we get - a total disgrace for long term users.
Force field is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Who asked for this, lol? It looks dumb and is not necessary at all.
Maybe price update😂
That's news from last month. TrainerRoad have already followed suit with a bump of their own too. Thankfully we're seeing hardware drop in price!
At this point all I want is better graphics. Play gt7 or F1 on PS5, then ride on Zwift and cry.
Even with your pc, which is clearer than mine, we are talking 2009 graphics at best.
boooooooooooooh Wahoo
Lama - please have a word so they finally allow us to hide HR!
Can anyone inform me what version a Wahoo Kickr Core actually qualifies as? Thanks in advance!
All Kickr Cores are the same.
Sorry my question was badly worded (and I’m a noob). I’m curious if my Kickr Core is a Version 4 or Version 5 as described in the video (or something else entirely)? Apologies for my ignorance.
Ahhh. No problems. The Kickr CORE is a different trainer than the V4 and V5 Kickrs.
Cheers thanks!
Rolling back that promise for the v5, I hope that that means a refund for those who purchased the hardware on the bad promise. v disappointed
Hahahahaha....a refund....hahaha
May I interest you in those rocks which are going to give you a 50% increase of your FTP in less than a week?
They are only $150 apiece!
If you purchased an expensive piece of kit on promises, then you deserve to pay even more to compensate the rest of us for being in the aura of your stupidity.
Why would there be a refund when the promise was made AFTER people bought the hardware? The promise was made just a couple months ago after V4/V5 were discontinued.
Given the rate at which they push new stuff, I really think zwift personnel spend most of their working hours riding outside.
I sold all my wahoo gear after this lie about the v5. Switched to jet-black victory and Zwift ride
Interesting. The Victory isn’t available yet. The Kickr 5 issue wasn’t technically a lie, they mentioned it’d support something (that it was never sold with as supporting) then walked that back at a later date. If the Victory (when released) ends up being a potato, that’s going to be awkward for you.
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Probably in the minority here but I couldn't care less about virtual shifting lol... I want to use and feel the real gears on my bike, not a clunky dummy cog with little keychain "shifter" 😄
As a TH-camr surely it is your direct accountability to deal with Wahoo and get them to change their decision? I''m shocked that it's not been done already...oh, please can you also arrange for me to have the moon on a stick. Thanks.
Moon, stick, done! 😂 If I had three wishes to make things come true, they'd all be related to the Shimano power meter. 🧞♂️😉
Annoyed that the XP acceleration stops even when you are 50,000+XP over the Level 100.