How the WEIRDEST Republic Droid Led to Clone Cyborgs, and Dark Troopers

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  • The Republic and Imperial War droids all stem back to one odd creation, L8-L9. See how it evolved into the Z-X3 experimental droid trooper, then Dark Trooper project with Phase 0 being Clone Cyborgs, and eventually full Droids seen under Moff Gideon.
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  • @dagdamor1
    @dagdamor1 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    I will never understand how that war droid at Asajj’s introduction somehow got dropped by investors when it obliterated half of the arena participants in seconds and it took a literal Dark Jedi some genuine effort and dodging to put it down.
    You’d have planetary governments lining up around the block for a brigade of these things.

    • @mankyscotchgit4986
      @mankyscotchgit4986 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      The Seppies would have gone absolutely apeshit for this droid.

    • @LoneWolf20213
      @LoneWolf20213 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      I think this is one of those plot holes that happened only because of plot

    • @MetaNerdzLore
      @MetaNerdzLore  ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Yeah keeping the in universe lore logic sounding reasonable is hard sometimes and this is one for sure, and why so much stronger than anything out there. And the design looks like it was supposed to be a cyborg originally

    • @farawaygaming_
      @farawaygaming_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The likely true reason is its too expensive to manufacture

    • @LoneWolf20213
      @LoneWolf20213 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@farawaygaming_ a single clone takes 10 years to make and cost more than a droid squad in only a single day, how would these droids cost more

  • @Manateeus
    @Manateeus ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I think that Phase 0 Dark Trooper that is the cyborg clone could be what we saw in the first episode of the two-episode mid-season finale. The clone that had his CT number wiped and said he was a "believer"

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, but he's not quite a Dark Trooper in terms of abilities.

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@demi-femme4821 So, He might've been a prototype.

    • @watcherzero5256
      @watcherzero5256 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Might have been a Clone batch kept just for black ops but I was wondering if the gas he was breathing was a new type of mind control to replace the chip. Essentially some of the 'decomissioned' clones were being reprogrammed and used for Imperial Intelligence as disposable assets.

    • @theBoenich
      @theBoenich ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really hope that in future bad batch seasons we will see the start of the dark trooper program

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I loved the Dark Troopers from old Battlefront games. I really hope we can see the Cyber Clone Dark Troopers in the future, and hopefully with their Arc Castors from the 2005 Battlefront game.

    • @randomstormtrooper3345
      @randomstormtrooper3345 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      if that happens they should give them their shotguns from BFI, shock guns are way too silly lol

    • @inductivegrunt94
      @inductivegrunt94 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Random Stormtrooper Fair enough. The Blast Cannons, as they were called in game, would be a great addition. Nothing like combining both blasters and shotguns together to create a devastating weapon of destruction.

  • @18videowatcher41
    @18videowatcher41 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man, I loved the L8-L9 droid in the original Clone Wars cartoon. Was so sad when it got smashed by Ventress.

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta2073 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    We need to see more dark troopers in star wars

    • @ramencakes5196
      @ramencakes5196 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they are setting up the plot for some kind of dark trooper in bad batch.

    • @marshalllatta2073
      @marshalllatta2073 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool

  • @Normac902
    @Normac902 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love how you collectively cover all aspects of the topic you are reviewing, legends & “canon”.

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because its all lore.
      Now, go away Fandom Menace.

    • @Normac902
      @Normac902 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fireblade295what are you talking about? Weirdo.

  • @stars9084
    @stars9084 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent work as always. I wonder how things might have gone differently had Tagge had any idea what Ventress was

  • @Gigas0101
    @Gigas0101 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Droid on Droid would be amazing to see in a show; maybe a separatist holdout or repurposed facility sacrificed to a canonized Rom Mok and a small task force of Dark Trooper droids. I don't think it'll happen with the new canon but Dark Trooper cyborg Cody could also be great to see.

  • @kristophervanvarenberg526
    @kristophervanvarenberg526 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    - A well directed mini series showcasing a select group of I.G. Droids history, riot, expansion, etc. would be fascinating to watch. Someone like Toa Frasier would be an excellent candidate for this.

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wish for more SWTOR videos soon

  • @rebelbrixz
    @rebelbrixz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really love the detail you put into them. Please do more is I’ll look forward to it

  • @Booozy3050
    @Booozy3050 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember as a kid having a book and record combo about that Droid uprising. It was voiced well.

    • @DeathBYDesign666
      @DeathBYDesign666 ปีที่แล้ว

      What was that? That sounds so damn familiar to me, I remember those star wars stories from the 80s. And that makes me feel both old and shocked at how long I've been a star wars fanboy. Long enough that my literal earliest memories are of seeing it in the theater as a small child. It's pretty much engrained in me you could say.

  • @kapitankapital6580
    @kapitankapital6580 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember growing up I had a book about droids in Star Wars that I spent *hours* pouring over, and it always brings a smile to my face when I see one of the more obscure or goofy droids in it reappear

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum5013 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Android revolution post sequels would be a wild storyline. A signal that sends all the droids of the galaxy big and small into a haywire aggressive stance towards organics long enough for a fleet carrying newly constructed war droids to seize territory.

    • @rosiehawtrey
      @rosiehawtrey ปีที่แล้ว

      There already was one in the books, one of Luke Sistershaggers students gone bad, and they were installing a remote detonator in droids and droids brain installs in ships, as they were built/reconned. Took out several ships crews if I remember. Almost took out Luke too, flying a modded T65D series. Can't remember the name of the book, its been too long.
      R2 ex machina..

  • @yokai333
    @yokai333 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video

  • @Reoh0z
    @Reoh0z ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:16 "Reinforced Phrik body shell"
    Frik's really been working out since the movie.

  • @bongobong6789
    @bongobong6789 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anyone else hear "28 ABY" at 1:10 ? Or just me?

  • @Chisszaru
    @Chisszaru ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That droid looks like it would fit the Rebel Alliance. Or at least the Resistance.

  • @admiralleel6604
    @admiralleel6604 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could've used your „What‘s up, MetaNerdz!“ right before the Dark Trooper punched Din Djarin.
    That would have been so awesome 😂

  • @davidhaas3111
    @davidhaas3111 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like if this is going to happen in canon, it will be done using any research kamino might have done on echo, and if they haven’t done any, then the empire capturing and studying echo will be a big plot point, as will the bad batch utterly obliterating whichever research facility holds echo.

  • @dingamuss1993
    @dingamuss1993 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see a video about the various types of powered armor or on the PB-950 Patrol Boat would be cool. Just a suggestion.

  • @Earthstar_Review
    @Earthstar_Review ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way droids behave in Star Wars, I have zero issues with droid protagonists vs droid antagonists. Also, I have great regrets that we never saw a return of the unsettling and inhuman droid voices from The Phantom Menace.

  • @Obiwan7100
    @Obiwan7100 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Could a Clone Dark Trooper live longer than 40-45 years because of his cybernetic implants?

    • @Gigas0101
      @Gigas0101 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would imagine so, but they might undergo a slower, different kind of death as their failing organic parts are slowly switched out for more droid components.

    • @lpalmer212
      @lpalmer212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      probably, but I doubt the cost would be justified

  • @dsheppard297
    @dsheppard297 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need to do a breakdown of the Nelvaanian species that were seen in the animated Clone Wars from the early 2000s.

  • @DrMutran
    @DrMutran ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw New Republic, Dark Trooper, and CIS droids clashing with each other.

  • @mr.creeper7802
    @mr.creeper7802 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d love to see the WA-7 Droid, Mouse Droid, and Hutt species videos reuploaded in a slightly different presentation but with all the information.

  • @rebelbrixz
    @rebelbrixz ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you going to do more complete life stories?

  • @traitorouskin7492
    @traitorouskin7492 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if it ended up droid vs droid they'd probably have the sense to team up and kill all the meatbags. forever living in the metallic paradise they dream of.

  • @andreaandolina7199
    @andreaandolina7199 ปีที่แล้ว

    Empire at war's DT 2 were my all time favourite unit in the vanilla game. But lorewise phase 0 will always have a special place In my heart given that in the far away galaxy these were the closest things to a 40k dreadnought.

  • @Johnokerblom
    @Johnokerblom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The droid versus droid would be entertained

  • @kingdomskobolds8267
    @kingdomskobolds8267 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The L8-L9 was far from being a failure given how easily it eradicated the arenas fighters, with the one exception being Asajj who was not just a force wielder but a highly trained assassin that gave even the Jedi many problems. Sure, in a 1 on 1 duel the bot lost to her, but would she have survived against a whole squad? And with the feedback of the droid being vulnerable to being lifted by force users the droid could be further improved with feet capable of latching onto surfaces, not a hard solution to implement really. This bot would have been a battlefield powerhouse

    • @Psub950
      @Psub950 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly

  • @isaiahjackson25
    @isaiahjackson25 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely feel like the clone assassin is a step toward the dark trooper program

  • @nomcarver4436
    @nomcarver4436 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is some cyberpunk stuff right here😂! 6:06

  • @nicholasgentzsch3182
    @nicholasgentzsch3182 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey dear Metanerds! I’m a massive and long time fan, I’ve got a quick question. Why did you stop putting legends and canon in the top to separate the source materials origins? Would be happy for it to return!
    Appreciate your work more than I could ever write in a comment, thanks for (maybe) reading it! Keep going, you make my days!

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because its all lore.

    • @Hello-bi1pm
      @Hello-bi1pm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fireblade295 you're being a hypocrite. Just earlier you've been saying Legends is bad, but now "it's all lore" if it includes canon...

  • @Samland_yt
    @Samland_yt ปีที่แล้ว

    How and where do you get all your star wars lore and information

  • @arlenety6124
    @arlenety6124 ปีที่แล้ว

    Metanerdz can you try update the Porax 38 starfighter Pls.

  • @techticianlarsproductions6180
    @techticianlarsproductions6180 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh yeah I never see anyone mention these

  • @vilarseirei
    @vilarseirei ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just hope star wars makes a live action series about the threat from another galaxy

    • @vilarseirei
      @vilarseirei ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So we get to see that terminator wannabe droid

  • @reidhanson4755
    @reidhanson4755 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see a parody episode where the droids throughout the galaxy go on a 'kill all humans' rampage like Futurama.
    Even the harmless droids would be like slowly ramming into organics.

  • @skyden24195
    @skyden24195 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who do you bet on when it's Sith vs. Sith?

  • @lucienfury2606
    @lucienfury2606 ปีที่แล้ว

    We really need durka durka troopers

  • @saiyanape6015
    @saiyanape6015 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crab droids

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep

  • @greentwo6845
    @greentwo6845 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not to mention, the cost.

  • @rebelbrixz
    @rebelbrixz ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you going to finish saw gerreras life?

  • @Xray1281
    @Xray1281 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kind of mixed canons there but still good.

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because its lore, you fandom menace.

    • @Hello-bi1pm
      @Hello-bi1pm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fireblade295 stop being a dick in the comments

  • @ATP2555ify
    @ATP2555ify ปีที่แล้ว

    If it replaced the clones, the Clone Wars would've been called the Droid Wars.

  • @rebelbrixz
    @rebelbrixz ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe a Dooku complete life

  • @andreykuzmin4355
    @andreykuzmin4355 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember droids, that Bad Batch fought on Tarkin's orders? I got the heebee-jeebies, when I saw them. I am pretty sure those were Canon equivalent of the Phaze Zero Dark Troopers. Meaning, that Bad Batch fought cripled, cyborg clones

    • @anthonyrodriguez8788
      @anthonyrodriguez8788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I doubt, the Kamanoians would never waste such valuable prototype droids just to satiate Tarkin's curiosity, not to mention Shaak Ti was watching the Kamanoians to make sure the Clones were being treated well, they simply wouldn't have the time make droids like that.
      Odds are they were just an earlier model of those imperial security droids we see in Rebels that kinda look like Dark Troopers

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The legends version of the phases 1-3 dark troopers went from being droids to suits, in canon it's the other way around.

  • @wickerbotterthewizard707
    @wickerbotterthewizard707 ปีที่แล้ว

    While I understand the opportunity of getting contracted to build a droid army is lucrative, I feel like trying to get a Republic or Imperial commission would be to ignore those faction's greatest strengths. Firstly the Republic and Empire had such a large populace that conscripts and volunteer armies would be in such great supply a droid replacement would be naive. Why manufacture one droid equal or better than an average infantry man when those resources could be devoted to a dozen rifles for a dozen organic soldiers? Even if by some Separatist miracle they kill EVERY Jango Fett clone there are still Trillions of Republic citizens to draft if needed. This is exactly why a droid on droid war would be so small scale if it would happen at all, because any super power in the Galaxy worth it's merit can recruit the millions of soldiers it would need. Only in massive extinctions where those populations cease to exist would a droid army be favored because it would become a necessity.

  • @SES77
    @SES77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Metanerdz, thank you for the star wars content as always, but I wanted to let you know that fellow youtuber Tony "Thick44" Schnur of Neebs Gaming and battlefield friends has lost his battle with cancer. If you have time could please spread awareness. The Neebs gaming crew is setting up a trust fund for his daughters and I was hoping to spread the message.

  • @vonneely1977
    @vonneely1977 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Canonical Phase 3 Dark Trooper used phrik armor, which made them resistant to lightsabers. Disney conveniently forgot that last detail.

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 ปีที่แล้ว

      'forgot' or did they just not an OP droid for Luke's entrance?
      Fandom Menace always lack intelligence.

    • @vonneely1977
      @vonneely1977 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fireblade295 Oh look, a Disney shill.

  • @shadow9774
    @shadow9774 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These L8-L9 droids just break the lore. 10 of them would be able to annihilate most ground forces and be able to handily kill padawan level jedi in a 1v1. You could easily argue they could 1v1 knight level jedi, as Ventress can certainly beat most of the jedi knights. They'd be terrifying to fight in both ships and urban areas with the flamer. Their only downside is they got no hands, so they can't operate machinery despite their apparent intellect. Not much of a downside though as they can plow through droidekas. And I'm gonna assume tanks too like the aat, the snail tank, octo tri-droid, the big crab droids, and the homing spider.

    • @user-yq9im9dk9z
      @user-yq9im9dk9z ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's mostly why OP things in Star Wars get lost when you blow up their factory, as if no one makes backups 😉

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-yq9im9dk9z its why OP things make enjoyment hard if you don't care or diskile the characters.
      Its why Legends is bad, DC is bad, and Marvel comics is bad. No stakes, no struggles.

  • @coconutcore
    @coconutcore ปีที่แล้ว

    2:44 …No…no they couldn’t fit in. They could fit into a 1970s Doctor Who episode, not Star Wars from whatever decade.

  • @smileyp4535
    @smileyp4535 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's be honest it's because that blue robot looks stupid af 😂

  • @Crackmiser
    @Crackmiser ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One legends phase 3 dark trooper could take on 15-20 canon phase 3 dark troopers with no issue. The ones from mando season 3 were cool, but I was genuinely disappointed to find out they were supposed to be phase 3, thought they were going to be phase 1 since they were droids.

    • @Gigas0101
      @Gigas0101 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you mean your canon from the Battlefront games, or my canon where it was a power armour for Rom Mok?

    • @user-yq9im9dk9z
      @user-yq9im9dk9z ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, canon is definition of nerfed universe. OP Grievous, OP Luke and OP Dark Troopers, nah, let's nerf all of them! Only Rey can be OP with no reason!

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fandom Menace at it again.
      It was Mando s2 first of all.
      Lets look at Marvel. In comics, every character is OP. But in MCU they are weakened for viewing pleasure. Nobody wants an OP hero who wins every fight. Each hero struggled.
      Same for SW. They weakened Luke, because its his first intro outside ST. Grievous? He was in the movies, then your precious 'Legends'. Phase 3 wasn't lightsaber resistant, because it would be a poor intro for Luke.
      Your ilk is sad. Your Legends is pathetic and boring.

    • @Crackmiser
      @Crackmiser ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fireblade295 You like the Disney trilogy don't you?

    • @Hello-bi1pm
      @Hello-bi1pm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fireblade295 Grievous' first appearance was in 2003 Clone Wars, not in movies.

  • @macwelch8599
    @macwelch8599 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yikes

  • @amarured
    @amarured ปีที่แล้ว

    Shouldn't it also be BBY at 1:09? 🥸