The major thing with super low tunings like on the 9 strings is to cut bass and boost mids, and then use some kind of clean boost as well. I used to play Drop C# on a Baritone and that’s really the only way to get a clear tone for more modern sounds. Edit: btw, not saying your tone it bad at all. Great video.
@@jimmyfranklin The low gets so muddy and I feel like higher notes can separate you from the other sonic ranges, instead of battling for the loudest mid-range. I'll have to try it myself atsome point though, just need a 9 string! Also Michael Angelo Batio would use a seven srting tuned up instead of down, it may be worth an experiment.
If the pickups are good I'd like a 9 just for the range I've heard some sick guitarists use the 9th as basically a low pedal note while they play some sick fast stuff and that's kinda how I feel 9 string are at their best. Like not just for metal, i saw a guy with a 9 string strandberg and he played some beautiful clean stuff
Drop C on 6 string or B standard on 7 is the sweetspot for heavy guitars (just my thinking, I play six string guitar , bass, drums and piano. At the moment being, I do not feel like going to seven, but I would like to try), It is nice and low, but does not mess with the bass guitar. 8 string is something that still sounds nice down low, and bass can get an octave down and be heared. 9 string is ridiculous, when in double drop B, it is in unison with the lowest string of 5 string bass
Tuning depth doesn't equate to heaviness, but I have noticed that a 9 string sounds better more so in a full mix, while the 8 can sort of stand on its own and sound good more often
For me, i currently own a baritone 6 string and 2 8 strings. And the 8th string is just a whole other sound. So you Can use it for much more, and t doesnt sound the same if you play an A on the 7th and an A on the 8th
For anyone buying an extended range guitar, I strongly suggest a multiscale guitar. The string tension is just wrong on these Ibanez guitars. Don't take my word for it, ask Tosin Abasi.
Or, if you already have a single scale extended range guitar, buy custom strings, keep it tight on the low end and loose on the high end tension wise, or however you prefer :)
8string is the heaviest solution with the guitar, cause you can tune bass whatever you want and it all will be sounding great- octave below 8string is the maximum range you can lower your bass and it sounds volumetric ( th-cam.com/video/d0zDWzdB0tA/w-d-xo.html ); into quarta interval (like She Was The Universe band th-cam.com/video/6Ovp1lVh3FY/w-d-xo.html )- and your bass will be punching in your face, playing the same frets as the guitar; in one octave- apply some distortion on bass and it would be some saturated madness (apply more distortion, and it would be the heaviest thing you ever heard, like my latest song th-cam.com/video/2aQ4ufb7epY/w-d-xo.html ). On the 9string you have only 2 possibilities with the bass- in one octave and quarta. Quarta only works with the standard 9string tuning like C#- so you tune your bass to G# playing the same frets. In one octave- all these guys like Darko, etc, tuning to drop A and using the bass in A- their sound is dull and unsaturated, cause the bass is too quiet and guitar too. Equalizer and boosters won't help. So it seems the best solution is not going lower than C#, but you can do it even with an 8string. 9strings are great for sweeps and if you want to double some strings or having a weird open tuning. In the end, some more samples from me. My stuff in 9string standard and bass in quarta, playing the same frets th-cam.com/video/0YpEemDtCyg/w-d-xo.html My stuff in 8string with the bass in same octave th-cam.com/video/2dHeu8jnFR4/w-d-xo.html
lol No offense but this video really irritated me. Its like, "I dunno, whats better a 8 string or 9? Lets find out by using two completely different guitars where one is setup and the other isn't, and I dunno I dunno, what do you think?" I dunno! Did I like the 9 more because it was setup? I dunno! Was the 8 better? I dunno! Who knows! Look at all them strings! Wow! "I like turtles."
I Am Going With Both A Standard Guitar Consists of Seven Strings = B E A D G B E 6 String Plectrum Banjo/Guitar Regular Standard = Standard (Exception of the Low B) Guitar: Bass N Treble (B E A G B E) = Standard (Exception of a D String) Standard Banjo Tuning = D G C G B D Banjo: Bass N Treble (A D G G B D) Standard (7 String) Guitar B E A D G B E = Standard E A D E G B E = Standard Triadic (First, Fourth & Seventh Strings Tune To Es) 1 = High E, 4 = Mid E, 7 = Low E B E A D G B E 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 E A D E G B E 8 String Guitar F# B E A D G B E = Standard B E A D E G B E = Standard Triadic F# B E A D G B E 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 B E A D E G B E The Eighth String is an Additional String to the Guitar in This Case = F#, B E A D G B E / B, E A D E G B E 9 String Guitar C# F# B E A D G B E 10 String Guitar G# C# F# B E A D G B E 11 String Guitar D# G# C# F# B E A D G B E 12 String Guitar A# D# G# C# F# B E A D G B E
The major thing with super low tunings like on the 9 strings is to cut bass and boost mids, and then use some kind of clean boost as well. I used to play Drop C# on a Baritone and that’s really the only way to get a clear tone for more modern sounds.
Edit: btw, not saying your tone it bad at all. Great video.
Awesome review!
Thank you john!! lets catch up soon!
Me after this video: *plugging my drop A 5 string bass into my guitar amp because I olny have 6 and 7 string guitars*
I think the 9 should be tuned like an 8 with an extra high, so a higher "a"
thats interesting... why??
@@jimmyfranklin The low gets so muddy and I feel like higher notes can separate you from the other sonic ranges, instead of battling for the loudest mid-range. I'll have to try it myself atsome point though, just need a 9 string!
Also Michael Angelo Batio would use a seven srting tuned up instead of down, it may be worth an experiment.
Or a second high e (or match. To the 2nd string) like steph from deftones
This helps a lot! I was thinking about getting a 9 string but I’m gonna go with an 8 string now! Thanks for the help :)
If the pickups are good I'd like a 9 just for the range I've heard some sick guitarists use the 9th as basically a low pedal note while they play some sick fast stuff and that's kinda how I feel 9 string are at their best.
Like not just for metal, i saw a guy with a 9 string strandberg and he played some beautiful clean stuff
Drop C on 6 string or B standard on 7 is the sweetspot for heavy guitars (just my thinking, I play six string guitar , bass, drums and piano. At the moment being, I do not feel like going to seven, but I would like to try), It is nice and low, but does not mess with the bass guitar. 8 string is something that still sounds nice down low, and bass can get an octave down and be heared. 9 string is ridiculous, when in double drop B, it is in unison with the lowest string of 5 string bass
Tuning depth doesn't equate to heaviness, but I have noticed that a 9 string sounds better more so in a full mix, while the 8 can sort of stand on its own and sound good more often
That’s what I am trying to figure out!! There’s no way that lower automatically means heavy
@@jimmyfranklin It definitely more directly affects texture rather than overall feeling. Texture can affect feeling, but doesn't equate to it
Did NOT expect my man to come down on a certain tropical hardwood at the end there.
Jackson also do incredible low cost extended range and multi scale guitars like Ibanez. Well worth a look.
I think that the main goal of the 9 strings guitare is to play octaves
For me, i currently own a baritone 6 string and 2 8 strings. And the 8th string is just a whole other sound. So you Can use it for much more, and t doesnt sound the same if you play an A on the 7th and an A on the 8th
For anyone buying an extended range guitar, I strongly suggest a multiscale guitar. The string tension is just wrong on these Ibanez guitars. Don't take my word for it, ask Tosin Abasi.
Or, if you already have a single scale extended range guitar, buy custom strings, keep it tight on the low end and loose on the high end tension wise, or however you prefer :)
Guitars have gone heavier with more strings but my hand size remains the same LOL I need to play a guitar that feels natural to me
8string is the heaviest solution with the guitar, cause you can tune bass whatever you want and it all will be sounding great- octave below 8string is the maximum range you can lower your bass and it sounds volumetric ( th-cam.com/video/d0zDWzdB0tA/w-d-xo.html ); into quarta interval (like She Was The Universe band th-cam.com/video/6Ovp1lVh3FY/w-d-xo.html )- and your bass will be punching in your face, playing the same frets as the guitar; in one octave- apply some distortion on bass and it would be some saturated madness (apply more distortion, and it would be the heaviest thing you ever heard, like my latest song th-cam.com/video/2aQ4ufb7epY/w-d-xo.html ).
On the 9string you have only 2 possibilities with the bass- in one octave and quarta. Quarta only works with the standard 9string tuning like C#- so you tune your bass to G# playing the same frets. In one octave- all these guys like Darko, etc, tuning to drop A and using the bass in A- their sound is dull and unsaturated, cause the bass is too quiet and guitar too. Equalizer and boosters won't help. So it seems the best solution is not going lower than C#, but you can do it even with an 8string. 9strings are great for sweeps and if you want to double some strings or having a weird open tuning.
In the end, some more samples from me.
My stuff in 9string standard and bass in quarta, playing the same frets th-cam.com/video/0YpEemDtCyg/w-d-xo.html
My stuff in 8string with the bass in same octave th-cam.com/video/2dHeu8jnFR4/w-d-xo.html
You should try a 10 string
i guess 10 string is heavier
Have you played a 10 string?
Not yet have you??
This would have been a good review if you hadn't just played that riff on it. If you'd played something involving skill it might have helped.
Like what??
The 9 string is physically larger, so of course it weighs more.
lol No offense but this video really irritated me. Its like, "I dunno, whats better a 8 string or 9? Lets find out by using two completely different guitars where one is setup and the other isn't, and I dunno I dunno, what do you think?" I dunno! Did I like the 9 more because it was setup? I dunno! Was the 8 better? I dunno! Who knows! Look at all them strings! Wow!
"I like turtles."
I Am Going With Both
A Standard Guitar Consists of Seven Strings = B E A D G B E
6 String Plectrum Banjo/Guitar
Regular Standard = Standard (Exception of the Low B)
Guitar: Bass N Treble (B E A G B E) = Standard (Exception of a D String)
Standard Banjo Tuning = D G C G B D
Banjo: Bass N Treble (A D G G B D)
Standard (7 String) Guitar
B E A D G B E = Standard
E A D E G B E = Standard Triadic (First, Fourth & Seventh Strings Tune To Es) 1 = High E, 4 = Mid E, 7 = Low E
B E A D G B E
7 6 5 4 3 2 1
E A D E G B E
8 String Guitar
F# B E A D G B E = Standard
B E A D E G B E = Standard Triadic
F# B E A D G B E
8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
B E A D E G B E
The Eighth String is an Additional String to the Guitar in This Case = F#, B E A D G B E / B, E A D E G B E
9 String Guitar
C# F# B E A D G B E
10 String Guitar
G# C# F# B E A D G B E
11 String Guitar
D# G# C# F# B E A D G B E
12 String Guitar
A# D# G# C# F# B E A D G B E
Actually 10 strings are heaviers just saying