t480 1. trackpoint - present 2. dock - get usb-c dock/hub 3. repairability - last thinkpad with dual battery (external one is hotswappable I think?), RAM not soldered 4. livestream - it has 8-gen intel cpu (4 cores) might be enough? dunno 5. 1080p - present 6. coreboot - probably not 7. msata - there is a slot for WWAN/2242 SSD but it's pcie/nvme i think not sata 8. mic/webcam - good enough for video calls
T480 user here, yes the external battery is hotswappable. The keyboard is trivial to replace too, I think you can even find a custom one with the classic style. The downsides of this Thinkpad is that the USB-C ports are soldered on the motherboard (even Macbooks have replaceable USB type C ports) and the fact that there's no coreboot for them yet.
@@itsnothimorisit Absolutely, was a bit of a switch from the 7- to the 6 row keyboard, but sadly there is no external 7 row anymore. And I, including many users, like to have the same keyboard layout between docked and undocked, plus you can also use it with a more powerful desktop aswell. Only downside is, coreboot will never happen and the aspect ratio is still 16:9. I mean, doesnt have to be 4:3, but 16:10 is a good compromise, even those dorks at apple got that.
@@definitelynotrohan It was a hyperbole but its partly true. There is no calculator app on the iPad. There are 3 calculators without ads on the App Store, but good luck to the regular Joe to finding them. The rest of the calculators have ads , some are one time purchases some really are monthly. And you can't sideload either.
@@Expllosaoriginal mine do. I have two hawks. One for cement render, and one for plaster. Keeps things from getting contaminated. That said. I don’t have to sync between them, but I did have my mate feeding me loaded hawks of cement render. Got a heap done in a few hours but it was a pain in the arse to clean the sand off the plastering hawk As for PCs, I have a separate PC for music recording and production. Transfers are via USB. Painful, but no corruption. I just replace the drives every 2 years. The old 2008 built HP workstation running XP and CuBase 3 is working as well as it always has. Might be time to replace the capacitors to get another 15 years out of it
As a welder, I've been worried about having one or two spare welding machines. Specifically, worried whether these old machines could malfunction and kill me.
@@FourOfClubs the old linear transformer ones should be OK. Just make sure the earth is bonded properly to the chassis of the transformer so if something goes poop in it’s pants, it trips the RCD Check the terminations on both the primary side and especially the higher current secondary side. Make sure you have good clean low resistance connections. Should be good to go. While I don’t weld, and when I’m not fixing the house, I fix old tube guitar amps, and big solid state power amps. Some of those you can arc weld from. :-)
Sorry Luke, but your options are very severely limited by the Trackpoint requirement. I ran into this problem myself and had to end up compromising with my current computer (System76 Lemur Pro). I believe the Trackpoint is patented and so Lenovo is the only company that has them other than Dell's knock-off (which they seem to have killed off recently). If you're ok with buying a questionably sourced chinese hack-thinkpad, I would look into XYTech and his X2100 and X330 models. They're both based off of the X2xx series of thinkpads, but with modified 3k x 2k screen resolution, and a custom-built motherboard running a modern processer in the X2100s case and a re-soldered upgraded sandy bridge processer in the X330s. He also offers Coreboot on the X330, and last I talked to him (over a year ago now) was trying to port Coreboot to the X2100s motherboard. Good Luck with your search!
I have the same system 76 laptop and unless you run Ubuntu or pop os I have an issue where on boot, sometimes the trackpad doesn't work. It's a known issue but is another thing to take into account. I also gave up on the search for a non Thinkpad device with a trackpoint, which was quite disappointing.
IIRC the new HP Dev One has a trackpoint. I'd guess it also has a usb C port capable of running a dock, but I got nothing on the other requirements. Plus, well, it's not exactly cheap.
Luke, this is just a perfect opportunity use your sponsorship to team up with Buc-ees and design the Buc-pad complete with a new Lin-buc’s operating system.
If you're looking to get all these things together in a way that's as serviceable as an old Thinkpad but isn't as tied to old-thinkpad specs I think the ugly but practical solution is... building a PC into a small flight case, using some some mechanical USB keyboard that has a trackpoint. Yeah, it looks weird and yeah you get gawkers coming over to talk to you instead of leaving you alone to do your work if you're in a cafe or airport or something.
@BoulderBro999 why? that's made me philosophy a bit. Whatever we get to use, we aren't deeply considering it's aesthetics? not like we are caring about itself but how would we handle the way people are attracted to things yelling to their curious eyes, like, whatever our behavior as well as our freshly new motivation which arrives changes into the natural course, it must have a serious existence tactic of how human cares about their own self been perceived by others.
That’s something I’ve always wanted to make with uncompromising desktop power in the space of say, three thinkpads stacked on each other with a Jerry-rigged battery bank to last a full day, with a similar aesthetic to the portable IBM terminals from the 70’s. Although that kind of project is truly á bottomless rabbit hole, eventually It would end up with a built in expresso machine and HAM radio
I see we've all ruminated and waxed philosophically in our minds about the portable/flight case computer, though I must say having been through TSA and UK Customs many times, neither are going to look kindly or fondly on such a bit of kit! I'm still doing it though, one day...
@@dexter2392 E-waste (electronic waste) is a pretty bad problem. Many components are not biodegradable, and once they are removed from a chassis it’s hard to find any other use for a component.
The trackpoint requirement sort of limits you to Lenovo, Dell Business line (Dell QA is garbage IMO) and HP business laptops. The framework would fit the bill for repairability. The new Lenovo machines might have something for you, but a lot have soldered in memory. The HP Dev One might be the closest you can get to everything you need. USB C docks exist for all machines, both first party and third party.
the t440p is very based, it's the last one where pretty much every part is replaceable, and you can coreboot it. the trackpad that comes with it is garbage and doesn't have physical buttons for the trackpoint, but you can replace it with the t450 trackpad which does have them and it works perfectly fine. a lot of t440ps are sold with the trackpad already modded for pretty much no price difference. i don't know whether or not it can be docked though because i don't use one
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Have a T440p with coreboot and the docking station, can definitely recommend! expecially after upgrading the CPU to a still powerful i7-4910MQ! Every part is replaceable and work wonderfully!! I even shoot multiple VMs and let other people use them on 2 different screens while I edit photos with no noticeable slowdowns with Darktable! One of the best laptops ever made IMO :)
For your sync issues, i would highly recommend setting up a storage server that all your devices can work from. It's pretty much your own personal cloud and you can access it even when you're away. For a more portable mic i would suggest a "lavalier" microphone.They are built to be clipped on to your shirt and you can use it either directly by recording with your phone in your pocket or you can connect the mic to a dongle and record wirelessly.
This problem reminds me of a solution: distributed computing. Back in the day, computing centers had "big irons", and the workstations were just a graphical terminal, and when more power was needed, the big iron would get upgraded (storage, CPU, RAM, ecc) and the workstation continued to work. This was the idea behind Plan 9, and the forerunner UNIX v8 + Blit predated this, influencing also commercial UNIXes and their window systems (X11, NeWS). A thing like this would be feasible, but has a drawback: you need to be hooked to the network
If its your network, its fine, the problem is when you have to rely on others, specially when the "other" is a Big Tech company. There are plenty of mesh networks that you can use to build your stuff at home and use it remotely.
Very nice comment, I would like to recommend Plan B and other projects written by Fran. J. Ballesteros. Has many OS projects focusing on distributed operating systems. Even if they are mainly for academic research there is some great stuff explored in them.
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx I mean, you could keep your laptop assuming it's good enough, but your backend for heavyweight stuff does the job. Still, I think we need open hardware, both for desktop and laptop systems, that could be easily upgraded and customized to our need.
Really hard to do the keyboard switch, plus you need to actually find a t25 keyboard which are expensive and mostly come as cheap knockoffs from china. T480 or T480s is definitely a good choice tho.
t430 & t530, although fully upgraded they're within %20 speed of his x220 upgraded I would think, could be wrong. I picked up a t430 because of the nvidia chipset, damn the thing is heavier than I remember my t420 being though. Love the onboard video it's like having a portable playstation3 without the limitations of a video game console.
Luke, don't buy T480, unless you try it first. I couldn't use it's trackpoint at all, but maybe it's just my preferences (I like very light touch). They changed old ALPS trackpoint (loved it) to ELAN (AFAIR). I could't use touchpad also (no real keys and low quality multifinger experience). Maybe windows drivers are better, but under linux it was nightmare for me. I ditched it at the first opportunity because of it. Beside this, it is still good laptop.
I would personally recommend a Dell Precision 3510 for your use case. It has a trackpoint, support for a normal docking station (none of that USB C nonsense that replaced them, although it does have a thunderbolt 3 port so they work if you want it), plenty of power - 6th gen quad core i5/i7/Xeon E3 and a AMD FirePro W5130M GPU (if you choose to get the one with the dGPU). There is an option for a 1920x1080 display, do get that one as it will have significantly better colour accuracy. This machine doesn't have mSATA but you do get a 2280 NVMe slot and a 2.5 inch drive bay so that more than makes up for it. The microphone and webcam should be fine too. Streaming shouldn't be an issue at all given how powerful the specs are. These laptops shouldn't be too expensive these days with them being a little older, parts are readily available for them and they're pretty damn powerful especially considering how thin it is. I wish I had gotten a 3510 over a 3520 when I chose my new laptop, unfortunately it dropped the traditional docking station and if you go with the bigger battery (like I did) you also lose the 2.5 inch drive bay. Otherwise, the laptops are very similar.
I have been using an HP 8760w business class laptop for many years with Linux & Windows 7. It has the trackpoint, an i7 cpu and a total of 8 gigs of ram in it (I added a 4 gig stick which only took a couple screws to access). It also has a matte screen which I think is essential. It's extremely easy to repair and upgrade as well as swap out the hard drives. It has a business dock available so it should be able to suit all of your needs.
Using your feets as hands to showcase your tech is so based! Hands are like the mouse, who needs them when you have a good pair of feets xD. Luke is slowly moving towards a life without computers.
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I feel like this is going to be one of those channels where people think to themselves, "I remember watching this guy before he lost his mind." This definitely has the vibe of early Terry Davis or early Chris Chan videos.
Hey Luke, I don't want to be an a*hole, but I think your requirements for a machine are kind of complicated to have on a single finished hardware (repairability and trackpoint alone would be rare on laptops). If you already have equipment for the usability you want perhaps a mix of local-level virtualization and external access would be more interesting. My tips: - Good streaming to current standards may require some very specific GPU and Internet adapter (not expensive or rare, just not any kind of component), you can keep modifying thinkpads (or any other laptops) but sooner or later you will hit a performance limit for this. - If you want repairability and performance I highly recommend a desktop computer, and if you want decent audio any chinese bluetoth lapel mic (like the e60) will beat your onboard mic. - If i had your hardware i would test everything to see what can i still use (like hard disks), buy a used hardware close to a 4460 Kit with RX550, install Proxmox and just connect to the environment with the hardware i already have. - Docks for specific hardware are rare, USB-C hubs aren't. - 1080P Monitors are cheaper and better than laptops with 1080P screens. - Your laptops can be as fast as your virtual machine image. I could say to buy the T480 but sooner or later you will have the same problems. Good luck
Hey Luke! You can actually convert the slightly newer 30 series (230, 530, etc) to the 20 series keyboards! Requires some minor modifications to the laptop, but it's doable!
Don't know if you're still reading these, but a Thinkpad T430 sounds like it would be perfect, specifically the version with the Nvidia NVS 5400m graphics card. You can buy a dock for it, it has better specs, and its even more upgradeable than the x220 (you can even change the cpu out to a quad core one, and if you dont like the keyboard you can change it to the older style one they discontinued in 2011)
The ultimate is definitely a fully specced out Thinkpad T430s. You can put in the t420 keyboard. Drop in replacement. Newer processor plus better graphics. Lower power consumption. Works with docks. 16 gigs of ram. You can put in 3 drives. Fhd screen mods. Amazing linux compatability. Thinner and lighter than the T420. Typical Thinkpad features other than that.
Keep an eye on framework laptops. No trackpoint yet, but they are fully upgradable. There is also a chance they would release a keyboard or trackpad with an integrated trackpoint since many people have been asking for it.
I used to be big into using trackpoints with my older Thinkpads, but after upgrading from an X220T and W701 to a X270 and P71 I've found myself using the trackpad more often instead, the trackpads are horrific on the older thinkpads so you're pretty much forced to use the trackpoint. The trackpoint is still very useful on the newer thinkpads and something i would choose to keep but i could live without them
Just a custom i7-3615QE x230 motherboard would be 150$ and it would probably solve all the problems. The other x330 mods could be added bit by bit as needed.
As others have said the t480 thinker would be a good choice. HOWEVER, I'd argue that the one of the desktop replacements like the P50 might fit your needs better. 1: Has wonderful trackpoint (as all thinkpads should), it also has emergency physical middle mouse button. 2: Has a dock with every port you could imagine 3: Very reparable, it has 4 ram slots, two are exposed to the underside door while the others are hidden under the fairly easily removed keyboard 4: Beefy quadro GPU perfect for encoding streams, however, it is nvidia, perhaps it would be better to look at an all AMD thinkpad, I haven't had much of an issue playing around with display drivers though. 5: 1080p is no problem, could get the option for 4k but you take a hit to the already slim battery (as a side note, I can get about 6-8 hours when I don't activate the quadro) 6: unfortunately no coreboot at this time.. 7: the p50 actually has 2 msata bays (though you need a small adapter) and there's even an spot for an SSD too 8: I have not personally tested the camera and mic.. See Louis Rossmann's video review if you want to be further red pilled on the desktop replacement side of things th-cam.com/video/ig3xI8dUdm0/w-d-xo.html
Two words Framework laptop. On the repairability front, nothing modern beats the Framework laptop, everything is made to be repairable or replaced, ppl who got the 11th gen intel can upgrade to the 12th gen by replacing the mainboard board, have a look at it. It doesnt have a trackpoint yet, but i bet it will have in the future, and it will be easy to replace too.
The X270 seems to hit all those conditions you require. I own alot of laptops, the best and most practical one i own is definitely the Thinkpad X270, it is the last generation to still have a docking connector, upgradable RAM and a removable hot swap-able battery, but is also the first generation to have NVMe support and USB-C, you can also charge it through the USB-C port meaning you only need one charger for all your devices. 8 screws will completely remove the bottom cover giving you access to all the important stuff, has one DDR4 ram slot that is upgradable to 16Gig, You have the option of using a 2.5 inch HDD or SSD or a NVMe drive if you have the correct caddy for it. It also comes in 1080p if you can find it and has 4G LTE as an option. The biggest downside is that it doesn't have the old style keyboard, but the Thinkpad Retro 25 is the same generation as the X270 so it may be possible to hack that keyboard onto the X270, I've yet to see someone try though. Another downside is that although it can be docked to a standard docking station i am not aware of docks like the ultradock that the X220 has for the X270, i believe it just shares the same dock with the T470. It's from 2017 so parts are cheap and still readily available, shares alot of parts with the X260 and X250.
it doesn't have a trackpoint. there's some talk on the forums (community.frame.work/t/any-chance-of-trackpoint/1026/75) but i don't think it's gonna happen soon. might be a project, if you'd sacrifice the trackpad for buttons & a trackpoint...
Hi luke, please consider the **dell precision M6800.** It has a trackpoint, is extensibility upgradeable, has tones of ports and a bottom connection for a dock or a slice battery (I think you won't need it because it comes with so much ports (it comes with dvi hdmi out ect already) it's gpu is upgradable and honestly, it comes with top of the line CPU support (for it's time) 4 cores 8 thread i7s from around 2013~ and a MXM gpu slot, which means you can put some crazy modern GPUs in there and turn it into a mobile workstation that's still up to date to this day. Since i am cheap I'm running a precision M4600 that came with an i7 2820QM. + a Quadro GPU (it's a old shitter one but you can upgrade it to something decent ) I don't recommend my cheapo option tho. Did i mention even the 2010 model had a 1080 display? and the Precision M6800 can be modded to have a 4k display? Basically TLDR Good specs, Has a trackpoint, Amazing Cooling Repairbility and Upgrade path, it has everything you want except corebooot. You will only need this computer luke if you upgrade it. It also has bluetooth and other extra features (I think it might even have a simcard slot too.) it's top of the line and probably better than any thinkpad that tries to "challenge" it. Please luke, don't fall for the /g/ thinkpad meme, this even has extensible storage, even being able to swap the DVD drive easily into large storage. thank you if you read this.
this is the best pick imo. thinkpads are a far cry from what they used to be and are basically no different from any other modern fagbook on the market. The only problem i got with the dell though is that they're heavy as fuck and the battery life is kinda shit. Also that hardware is a good bit outdated. I wouldn't be too surprised if it'd start chugging on any modern website within 5 years.
@@lightningstrike4680 Do you think an i7 4800MQ + a recent mobile GTX or RTX card + 16 or 32 gigs of ram won't last him? I mean with a slice battery it probably would. The 1080p screen is what seals the deal for me. I know it's outdated yes, bit i estimate a minimum it has a good 8 years left of being relevant in it. for him he could upgrade his GPU along the way to make streaming or rendering videos more bearable. If on'y people stopped with the "Slimbook" meme already. It's getting tiring. The companies need to stop copying fucking apple already.
You can fit an entire Framewok laptop motherboard into a custom keyboard with a trackpoint and whatever ports you need and even attach a screen other than that you have to give up on the trackpoint
Some people have mentioned it already but, I'd suggest looking into the HP Dev One. It's not an exact 1:1 match for what you got, but I think it's the closest modern thing you're going to find.
I can completely agree with you Luke. However, the only modular laptop I've seen that comes close to the early IBM ThinkPad designs is the new Framework laptop which exceeds modularity of the ThinkPads of old. Sadly, it lacks a Trackpoint. Trackpads have greatly improved but "I get it" and you are not alone. You might have to forego the Trackpoint when mobile. Or settle for a newer mostly non-upgradable ThinkPad. There are no more traditional docking stations, they have been replaced with USB-C port replicators. You might wish to consider a small NAS appliance or home cobbled one that can run Linux LXD containers or FreeBSD Jails and ZFS. Sync your laptop data, websites and git repos to the NAS. SSH to the NAS containers. Or connect external drives to the port replicator.
ThinkPad t430 / t440p / t480 t430: socketed CPU ( up to 3rd gen 4 core i7 ) Classic keyboard mod Corebootable T440p: Socketed CPU ( up to 4th gen 4 core i7 ) Bigger and bulkier than non p variant New 6 row keyboard No trackpoint buttons, but they can be easily added Corebootable T480: Last one with removable battery Soldered CPU ( up to 8th gen 4 core i7 ) New 6 row keyboard Classic keyboard mod ( from T25, expensive and bit difficult ) Not corebootable Least repairable out of the 3 but still way better than other modern laptops
The T440p seems pretty ok for your use case. It is one of the last thinkpads that is repairable. 1. TrackPoint: yes 2. It has a dock 3. Repairable: Yes, it is one of the last ones that is repairable you can even change the processor 4. I haven't tested but probably you can do a live with OBS or ffmpeg 5. 1080p is an option 6. Coreboot/OSBoot 7. Has MSata 8. Mic/Webcam is decent IMO Extra: Has a CD/DVD drive so you can change it for a drive caddy and have all your data in there. That's my recommendation. I heard people talking about the T480. It is also good, but doesn't support coreboot and is pretty bad in terms of construction and repairability. EDIT: If you want a computer to compile gentoo on, meaning something powerfull, maybe get an HP Dev One? It seems to also be pretty ok.
I recommend Lenovo ThinkPad T480. I have this laptop, therefore my recommendation comes from my personal experience. 1. It has TrackPoint, yes. 2. It is dockable, but with USB-C port this time. Lenovo got rid of the old docking connector, but USB-C is still fine. 3. As it's a business class laptop, it is repairable. You can find almost every part on Lenovo's website and order it. RAM is not soldered. Modern CPUs in laptops are unfortunately soldered to the board. Unfortunately, there is no way around this unless you want to settle for an older laptop with an older CPU that barely lasts 2 hours on a battery. 4. Livestreaming requires either a good CPU or the one that can do hardware acceleration with it's iGPU. T480 has an option for both. While I recommend getting a model with the highest end CPU, if you can't, you could settle for hardware accelerated encoding. 5. It can come with either, 768p TN, 1080p IPS or 1440p something screen. Mine came with 768p and I replaced it to 1080p. 6. If you want coreboot, you either settle for an older, and slower laptop, like T440p, or find a manufacturer who manufactures and sells laptops with it like System76. Unfortunately I have yet to find a System76 laptop with TrackPoint like input device. That being said, you can still mod the T480 UEFI firmware, disable Intel Management Engine, remove WWAN whitelist, unlock advanced menus and etc. 7. T480 has an extra M.2 slot that can take in a WWAN card. This allows you to put an LTE or 5G modem in it, if it does not come with it already. That being said, if you do that, you'll also need to route antennas to the screen chassis and either get the Lenovo branded Fibocom L850-GL modem, or mod the UEFI firmware to remove the whitelist and put (almost) any WWAN inside. For hassle free experience, get the one that comes with a WWAN card. Some people also managed to put an SSD in it's place, but I am not planning to. 8. T480 has the *best battery life possible in a laptop*, assuming you are using the biggest battery available for it, 72Wh. It also has a hybrid battery system, which allows you to hotswap batteries on the go, so you can keep multiple fully charged batteries in your bag and swap them as you need them without having to shut down or hibernate. 9. There is an option for a backlit keyboard. Also, the keyboard has liquid drain holes in case you accidentally spill something in it, it has good chance of surviving. 10. The webcam and microphone are fine, not amazing, as expected for a laptop. 11. It takes in power through USB-C, which is somewhat universal, so you can borrow someone else's charger (if it's powerful enough) if you forget yours. If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.
for the right price don't skip on refurbished hp elitebooks with trackpoints i often find them to be more easily repairable and higher build quality than thinkpads on newer models the dock is with usb-c cable, but still good amount of ports, works just fine also why don't you downgrade obs to a previous version for a while?
T440, (4x0) would be my recommendation. I get them cheap on the used market, fix them up with new SSDs, RAM, battery and give them to employees. Dock, trackpoint, pad, etc. Good with Linux. Just in case you ever DO need to worry about syncing after all, syncthing is a great way to do it. Using it for years without issues. Combined with git and some scripts for total automation I keep dozens of systems in sync without much of a thought. But I also don't use trackpads - so I know nothing ;)
I think I already said this, but I just finished watching through the video- Look at a dell precision m4800. I have one for the specific reasons you mention, sans streaming (although it can livestream through OBS). It’s super easy to repair, docking station is like $40, and it’s also very nicely designed. I think i got it for like $430
Just use that Lenovo and plug into an external graficscard. Some can be used through a port, or just put it through a pci-express lane. If not available, remove the wifi and put an adapter in and use that pci-express-lane. Give that a shot. I have older computers as well that sometimes have some use from 2006. If never versions of OBS cause problem then just stick to the old version, not that complicated. Or upgrade hardware. Not to mention that you nowadays can rent virtual computers through amazon. Pick what works for you.
My main pc is librebooted X200 with custom 3d printed ssd cover/tray. When I need horsepower I pull the ssd (literally pulls out) and plop that into sata to usb 3 adapter on the desk that runs into a conventional tower pc underneath. That ssd doesn't even have any bloat like partition table or grub. Was a bit tricky to figure out how to setup though. Pretty sleek solution, no syncing, can continue work where I left it, I'm happy.
You can get a docking station for the T400. That’s not a feature exclusive to the X series (yes you will miss out on the extra hard drive but at least you will have some docking functionality).
Take the desktop workstation pill, they're built for performance and do not cater to normies. I just bought a used Dell workstation for 140€ with a quad-core Xeon, 16gb of ram and a pretty decent graphics card. It's a brick shithouse though, so forget about moving it around.
I have too many computers. All my files are on a little 1U server and I use NFS to access them. Over the wired network it's perceptible as fast as local, and I have various jobs that automatically back up stuff, I also manually backup to external drives too so I can review what has changed.
Any 51NB ThinkPad, x62/x63 are great: modern CPU and motherboard in an old ThinkPad chassis. Perfect laptop. 1. Yes: all the hardware is the same as the old ThinkPads with the classic keyboards, except for the motherboard, RAM, CPU, SSD, display 2. Dock ports are removed, so unfortunately not on most of them. I think the x330 does have functional dock though 3. Yes 4. Yes 5. 1440x1080 on a lot of them, 1920x1080 on others (e.g. x210) 6. x210 does 7. Probably 8. Probably not
This isn't an answer to the computer question, but to the file sync question. For years, I've had a desktop setup at home that has 6TB of storage. When I needed a laptop for personal use as I was travelling a lot, I didn't like the price point surrounding models that could house 6TB and I didn't want to buy another drive anyway if I didn't have to. My solution was to write a script that automounts my desktop at home's Documents directory to a local directory using sshfs. Everything is setup with shared keys, so this appears seamless to the end user. You just open your machine from anywhere with an internet connection and your files are just there. There are some quirks, such as, if you want to watch a movie on your laptop, you have to rsync it to your local machine first. The buffering over an ssh connection is terrible, but for most things I do, this has been fantastic. All of my machines now share the same Documenta directory that gets updated in real time.
I'm daily driving a T440p, corebooted, i7 with liquid metal(worth it for the thermals), has a dock, has a nipple, is repairable, can live stream. For your storage get a HDD dock. You can get all the free drives you want from old PCs and just swap em in, the newer keyboard isn't bad, you can put a great panel in if you want, it's as easy as switching ram. The webcam and mic are mid but good onboard mics are a myth.
Think pads are well designed. I have quite big hand and i can use right thumb to navigate pointer without moving my hands of keyboards, and left thumb to press big buttony "left click" on top of trackpad. Therefore I don't need trackpoint. Have you tried it?
Thinkpad p52 is pretty good. 1. It has a trackpoint 2. It's a tradeoff, but you can get USB-C docks. 3. It is better than other modern laptops. I've had it for three years and it runs fine with linux. You can change: - the battery - the drives (sata 3 and/or m.2, depending on the exact config) - the memory It still holds up well mechanically after carrying it everyday in public transports for three years. 4. You can livestream on it I think the p50 still had the dock port, if that's important to you. The p52s is the slimmer version and probably has soldered RAM, so stay away from it. I think the p53 is pretty similar to the p52, but I don't know if the RAM is soldered or not.
I wanted to recommend the Framwork laptop due to repairability, but no trackpoint, so: No. The other option would be the HP Dev One, which has a Trackpoint, but I am not 100% sure about the repairability points. It looked to be pretty easily serviceable for the most common parts. With both you have USB-C and can use USB-C docks.
Since ThinkPads are now indistinguishable from other laptops, I moved from an X201 to a cheap used HP EliteBook 835 G7. I fully expected it would be a glued POS but was pleasantly convinced otherwise when I took it apart. Downside: no integrated Ethernet (yeah...), no more "real" dock, I now use their external G5 dock. I didn't intend for it to replace my desktop but I liked the experience and used it that way, with an external monitor for a while. I moved back to desktop for sit-down use, because I have better graphics on that, but for the kind of things you do it wouldn't make a difference. Get one of the models with a trackpoint if you prefer that, I did too but I ended up not missing it on mine due to the nice glass trackpad. I don't like the models which have rows of keys to the right of the return key, either get the one with no numeric or full numeric keypad.
T400 till T430 have dockingsstations. Saw it, had it, used it, great piece of hardware. SInce the T440 generation the Docks are used over USB-C. Not as good but usable.
I have my Linux OS installed on an 1TB portable SSD. I can just plug in the SSD to any machine (e.g., two machines in my home, one laptop in my dormitory at school, one desktop in my lab), and boot into my only OS. It works perfect for me. No need to sync anything. (Btw, you can also install a Windows into portable drive using WinToUSB)
You have no idea how bad things really are to expect even 1-2 of your requirements to be met by anything made after the x230. The T480 or workstation thinkpads are the only things remotely close to meeting yoir requirements, but modern thinkpads are soy.
Luke smith you’re giving me high blood pressure or something. this is how Alex felt when he was forced to watch those sex movies😵💫 save the thinkpads noo
HP Zbook Fury G7 -trackpoint -docking available via thunderbolt -modular and repairable -powerful -1080p -multiple storage expansion bays -incredible mic array with good speakers
Lenovo T440p. It has a docking station available, it has the trackpoint, you can repair it as in you can upgrade or buy the same parts as in: - Screen - keyboard - trackpad - ram - Storage - CPU - battery can be easily removed and changed - wifi card - 2.5" ssd or hdd - DVD drive All of these parts are pretty easy to change. You need to remove the battery and then remove 4 screws and slide open the bottom case to access everything. Even the motherboards are available on ebay same with cases. I am 100% sure that it can handle your livestreams too. Now let's go through the "Dream" parts: - the screen is either 1336x768, 1600x900 or 1920x1080 and all of them can be changed to 1080p screen. - Coreboot is available - The webcam and mic are servicable and decent I Hope this helps.
Soldered RAM when the SSD (NVMe) is replaceable makes no sense with modern notebook computers. Both of my current notebooks have soldered RAM; it makes no sense and only contributes to e-waste if the RAM modules go bad.
You can buy a 1080p screen for the T400+ series and replace it yourself. I did it on my T420. The wires stay a bit odd inside but as long as you screw it shut well, it won't be an issue.
If you need something - do it yourself. Take Thinkpad T420 and coreboot it and install intel 3rd gen into it - something like i7-3740QM and install 16GB ram into it. Do not forger 90W power adapter. Additional notes. T420 have FullHD matrix modification - you can intall 1080p matrix into it. Also it has msata. This thing will have all what you described in you requirements list and will be more powerful than your x220.
i use multiple computers constantly at school (i have a quick setup script that installs git-bash and some tools). i have bash aliases to help with sync'ing: gpa: finds all recently modified directories, adds, commits, and pushes gua: git pull on all repos this doesn't solve the "one computer to rule them all problem", but this minimizes the pain of sync'ing, and makes your data more robust.
soo many things 1. there's a ton of laptops that are repairable and have a trackpoint. they're usually business laptops. dell, hp, thinkpad. not a hard ask. 2. any basic modern laptop will have the horses to stream, and will have a workable webcam / mic. not a hard ask. 3. any modern laptop will have a usb c port, which means you can attach a 'dock'. not a hard ask. 3. good luck with coreboot lol 4. I never got used to trackpoints, but I use a qmk keyboard, and have a layer which turns the vim keys into mouse movements. its not amazing to me, but maybe give that idea a shot. if I were to actually recommend laptops, it would be: 1. a modern business laptop from dell/hp/thinkpad. 2. an eluktronics/system76/chinese clone laptop, if you want horses. 3. mnt reform if your hacker is bigger than your common sense. 4. frameworks laptop if you like usb-c honestly though, if I read between the lines, it seems like what you really want is a laptop that has a repair ecosystem that'll last 20 years, is built like a tank, has (more) modern hardware, and a trackpoint. ... sounds like you want an old thinkpad with newer internals. good luck I guess?
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t480
1. trackpoint - present
2. dock - get usb-c dock/hub
3. repairability - last thinkpad with dual battery (external one is hotswappable I think?), RAM not soldered
4. livestream - it has 8-gen intel cpu (4 cores) might be enough? dunno
5. 1080p - present
6. coreboot - probably not
7. msata - there is a slot for WWAN/2242 SSD but it's pcie/nvme i think not sata
8. mic/webcam - good enough for video calls
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The exact reasons I opted for the T480 when it wasnt knew, but when the T490 came out.
T480 user here, yes the external battery is hotswappable.
The keyboard is trivial to replace too, I think you can even find a custom one with the classic style.
The downsides of this Thinkpad is that the USB-C ports are soldered on the motherboard (even Macbooks have replaceable USB type C ports) and the fact that there's no coreboot for them yet.
Love my T480, last good thinky imo.
@@itsnothimorisit Absolutely, was a bit of a switch from the 7- to the 6 row keyboard, but sadly there is no external 7 row anymore. And I, including many users, like to have the same keyboard layout between docked and undocked, plus you can also use it with a more powerful desktop aswell.
Only downside is, coreboot will never happen and the aspect ratio is still 16:9. I mean, doesnt have to be 4:3, but 16:10 is a good compromise, even those dorks at apple got that.
Throw all them then buy a calculator.
Buy an M1 iPad Pro and pay monthly subscription for a calculator app.
@@senzation01 wait, really? You pay for calculator in ipad?
@@definitelynotrohan no, you don't
@@definitelynotrohan Revolution bruh.
@@definitelynotrohan It was a hyperbole but its partly true. There is no calculator app on the iPad. There are 3 calculators without ads on the App Store, but good luck to the regular Joe to finding them. The rest of the calculators have ads , some are one time purchases some really are monthly. And you can't sideload either.
Luke has a neurotic relationship with his machines. No carpenter worries about having one or two spare hammers.
Do hammers suffer from sync issues?
@@Expllosaoriginal haha exactly
@@Expllosaoriginal mine do.
I have two hawks. One for cement render, and one for plaster. Keeps things from getting contaminated.
That said. I don’t have to sync between them, but I did have my mate feeding me loaded hawks of cement render. Got a heap done in a few hours but it was a pain in the arse to clean the sand off the plastering hawk
As for PCs, I have a separate PC for music recording and production. Transfers are via USB. Painful, but no corruption. I just replace the drives every 2 years. The old 2008 built HP workstation running XP and CuBase 3 is working as well as it always has. Might be time to replace the capacitors to get another 15 years out of it
As a welder, I've been worried about having one or two spare welding machines.
Specifically, worried whether these old machines could malfunction and kill me.
@@FourOfClubs the old linear transformer ones should be OK. Just make sure the earth is bonded properly to the chassis of the transformer so if something goes poop in it’s pants, it trips the RCD
Check the terminations on both the primary side and especially the higher current secondary side. Make sure you have good clean low resistance connections. Should be good to go.
While I don’t weld, and when I’m not fixing the house, I fix old tube guitar amps, and big solid state power amps. Some of those you can arc weld from. :-)
You should join the Amish dude
@4channermagician yeeaah also that
Apologize
"It's such a pain to have multiple computers." That is the most first world problem I've heard in a long time.
It s not like he has multiple macbooks
@@luxraider5384 True. Still makes him sound like a douche though.
@Dirty Pixels I have black friends and I'm a racist (I like NASCAR)
@Dirty Pixels yes like the rest of america
@@abdulwahabjag god tier humor
Sorry Luke, but your options are very severely limited by the Trackpoint requirement. I ran into this problem myself and had to end up compromising with my current computer (System76 Lemur Pro). I believe the Trackpoint is patented and so Lenovo is the only company that has them other than Dell's knock-off (which they seem to have killed off recently).
If you're ok with buying a questionably sourced chinese hack-thinkpad, I would look into XYTech and his X2100 and X330 models. They're both based off of the X2xx series of thinkpads, but with modified 3k x 2k screen resolution, and a custom-built motherboard running a modern processer in the X2100s case and a re-soldered upgraded sandy bridge processer in the X330s. He also offers Coreboot on the X330, and last I talked to him (over a year ago now) was trying to port Coreboot to the X2100s motherboard.
Good Luck with your search!
I have the same system 76 laptop and unless you run Ubuntu or pop os I have an issue where on boot, sometimes the trackpad doesn't work. It's a known issue but is another thing to take into account. I also gave up on the search for a non Thinkpad device with a trackpoint, which was quite disappointing.
I have an HP Elitebook 830 G5 and the trackpoint works out of the box on linux.
Cheers i also have a system 76 lemur pro
dell precision *do you even lift bro?*
IIRC the new HP Dev One has a trackpoint. I'd guess it also has a usb C port capable of running a dock, but I got nothing on the other requirements. Plus, well, it's not exactly cheap.
I can totally imagine luke using his feet to turn on the desktop
I do that in mine
Imagining Luke feet?
Hrmmmm....
Everyone with a desktop PC on the floor has done that at some time
I used to do that but then the front panel fell off
@Yummy Yum Imagine no longer. 10:26
Luke, this is just a perfect opportunity use your sponsorship to team up with Buc-ees and design the Buc-pad complete with a new Lin-buc’s operating system.
this is the correct choice. Buc-pad running the latest Sneed's Feed/Seed operating system
"I want to stop thinking about it"
Lists the most complicated demands known to Man.
Finding the perfect laptop with all the handy options of the best laptops ever made : a lifetime
Compiling an old version of OBS : 2 hours at most
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Why old version? Why would it be any faster if it's also using ffmpeg
2:16
Deciding not to stream anymore actually takes even less time 🤔
@@LukeSmithxyz jaja true
@@LukeSmithxyz does this mean not related will be more regular 😐
If you're looking to get all these things together in a way that's as serviceable as an old Thinkpad but isn't as tied to old-thinkpad specs I think the ugly but practical solution is... building a PC into a small flight case, using some some mechanical USB keyboard that has a trackpoint. Yeah, it looks weird and yeah you get gawkers coming over to talk to you instead of leaving you alone to do your work if you're in a cafe or airport or something.
😂
@BoulderBro999 why? that's made me philosophy a bit. Whatever we get to use, we aren't deeply considering it's aesthetics? not like we are caring about itself but how would we handle the way people are attracted to things yelling to their curious eyes, like, whatever our behavior as well as our freshly new motivation which arrives changes into the natural course, it must have a serious existence tactic of how human cares about their own self been perceived by others.
That’s something I’ve always wanted to make with uncompromising desktop power in the space of say, three thinkpads stacked on each other with a Jerry-rigged battery bank to last a full day, with a similar aesthetic to the portable IBM terminals from the 70’s.
Although that kind of project is truly á bottomless rabbit hole, eventually It would end up with a built in expresso machine and HAM radio
I mean theres the framework laptop board in a 3d printed case too, potentially a lot easier to carry
I see we've all ruminated and waxed philosophically in our minds about the portable/flight case computer, though I must say having been through TSA and UK Customs many times, neither are going to look kindly or fondly on such a bit of kit! I'm still doing it though, one day...
Tbh the real answer is to stop streaming and smash the desktop with a maul
Also, please do not literally throw them away. Just sell them or give them out.
why
@@dexter2392 E-waste (electronic waste) is a pretty bad problem. Many components are not biodegradable, and once they are removed from a chassis it’s hard to find any other use for a component.
No just throw them away
Its more badass
@@cobito01 No, it's not. You've bought into propaganda and are utterly unaware of it. Stop being guilt-ridden!
@@exnihilonihilfit6316What are your arguments/sources? Shouldn't something that still works fine be used until it no longer does?
The trackpoint requirement sort of limits you to Lenovo, Dell Business line (Dell QA is garbage IMO) and HP business laptops. The framework would fit the bill for repairability. The new Lenovo machines might have something for you, but a lot have soldered in memory. The HP Dev One might be the closest you can get to everything you need. USB C docks exist for all machines, both first party and third party.
He demands a trackpoint though
@@nevoyu If you go check the HP Dev One out, it has a trackpoint.
@@afinelad3673 quality assurance, their checks for quality before sending laptop outs the door
the t440p is very based, it's the last one where pretty much every part is replaceable, and you can coreboot it.
the trackpad that comes with it is garbage and doesn't have physical buttons for the trackpoint, but you can replace it with the t450 trackpad which does have them and it works perfectly fine. a lot of t440ps are sold with the trackpad already modded for pretty much no price difference.
i don't know whether or not it can be docked though because i don't use one
It uses the pro dock, I had one for a while.
+1 for t440p
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can confirm t440p is a great option
Have a T440p with coreboot and the docking station, can definitely recommend! expecially after upgrading the CPU to a still powerful i7-4910MQ!
Every part is replaceable and work wonderfully!!
I even shoot multiple VMs and let other people use them on 2 different screens while I edit photos with no noticeable slowdowns with Darktable!
One of the best laptops ever made IMO :)
For your sync issues, i would highly recommend setting up a storage server that all your devices can work from. It's pretty much your own personal cloud and you can access it even when you're away.
For a more portable mic i would suggest a "lavalier" microphone.They are built to be clipped on to your shirt and you can use it either directly by recording with your phone in your pocket or you can connect the mic to a dongle and record wirelessly.
YoUr PhoNe In YoUr poCkeT. Like hes gonna use his phone lol. Jokes aside phones do actually work pretty well.
Have you tried reinstalling an older version of obs?
You should buy a MacBook
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fpbp
This problem reminds me of a solution: distributed computing. Back in the day, computing centers had "big irons", and the workstations were just a graphical terminal, and when more power was needed, the big iron would get upgraded (storage, CPU, RAM, ecc) and the workstation continued to work.
This was the idea behind Plan 9, and the forerunner UNIX v8 + Blit predated this, influencing also commercial UNIXes and their window systems (X11, NeWS).
A thing like this would be feasible, but has a drawback: you need to be hooked to the network
If its your network, its fine, the problem is when you have to rely on others, specially when the "other" is a Big Tech company. There are plenty of mesh networks that you can use to build your stuff at home and use it remotely.
Very nice comment, I would like to recommend Plan B and other projects written by Fran. J. Ballesteros. Has many OS projects focusing on distributed operating systems. Even if they are mainly for academic research there is some great stuff explored in them.
@@autistadolinux5336 Yeah, for these things I rather do my own thing rather than rely on "cloud" (actually some else's computer)
sounds like a non-starter for someone looking for a dockable laptop, which implies he'd be taking it places.
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx I mean, you could keep your laptop assuming it's good enough, but your backend for heavyweight stuff does the job. Still, I think we need open hardware, both for desktop and laptop systems, that could be easily upgraded and customized to our need.
Hey Luke, look at the T480, you can change the modern keyboard to the classic keyboard, and it has a docking station.
Really hard to do the keyboard switch, plus you need to actually find a t25 keyboard which are expensive and mostly come as cheap knockoffs from china.
T480 or T480s is definitely a good choice tho.
Not all keys work. Keyboard is hard to find. Board modifications are needed. And there's notorious thunderbolt issues.
T480s should work too, although has one memory slot only
t430 & t530, although fully upgraded they're within %20 speed of his x220 upgraded I would think, could be wrong. I picked up a t430 because of the nvidia chipset, damn the thing is heavier than I remember my t420 being though. Love the onboard video it's like having a portable playstation3 without the limitations of a video game console.
Luke, don't buy T480, unless you try it first. I couldn't use it's trackpoint at all, but maybe it's just my preferences (I like very light touch). They changed old ALPS trackpoint (loved it) to ELAN (AFAIR). I could't use touchpad also (no real keys and low quality multifinger experience). Maybe windows drivers are better, but under linux it was nightmare for me. I ditched it at the first opportunity because of it. Beside this, it is still good laptop.
I would personally recommend a Dell Precision 3510 for your use case. It has a trackpoint, support for a normal docking station (none of that USB C nonsense that replaced them, although it does have a thunderbolt 3 port so they work if you want it), plenty of power - 6th gen quad core i5/i7/Xeon E3 and a AMD FirePro W5130M GPU (if you choose to get the one with the dGPU). There is an option for a 1920x1080 display, do get that one as it will have significantly better colour accuracy. This machine doesn't have mSATA but you do get a 2280 NVMe slot and a 2.5 inch drive bay so that more than makes up for it. The microphone and webcam should be fine too. Streaming shouldn't be an issue at all given how powerful the specs are. These laptops shouldn't be too expensive these days with them being a little older, parts are readily available for them and they're pretty damn powerful especially considering how thin it is.
I wish I had gotten a 3510 over a 3520 when I chose my new laptop, unfortunately it dropped the traditional docking station and if you go with the bigger battery (like I did) you also lose the 2.5 inch drive bay. Otherwise, the laptops are very similar.
Can you put coreboot/disable Intel ME?
Why do you want the drive bay?
I have been using an HP 8760w business class laptop for many years with Linux & Windows 7. It has the trackpoint, an i7 cpu and a total of 8 gigs of ram in it (I added a 4 gig stick which only took a couple screws to access). It also has a matte screen which I think is essential. It's extremely easy to repair and upgrade as well as swap out the hard drives. It has a business dock available so it should be able to suit all of your needs.
Using your feets as hands to showcase your tech is so based!
Hands are like the mouse, who needs them when you have a good pair of feets xD. Luke is slowly moving towards a life without computers.
“1. The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human being to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.”
….etc
BTW, if you’re not up on the lore behind this, yandex Uncle Ted….or watch Dank’s recent Mad Lads
I feel like this is going to be one of those channels where people think to themselves, "I remember watching this guy before he lost his mind."
This definitely has the vibe of early Terry Davis or early Chris Chan videos.
Hey Luke, I don't want to be an a*hole, but I think your requirements for a machine are kind of complicated to have on a single finished hardware (repairability and trackpoint alone would be rare on laptops). If you already have equipment for the usability you want perhaps a mix of local-level virtualization and external access would be more interesting.
My tips:
- Good streaming to current standards may require some very specific GPU and Internet adapter (not expensive or rare, just not any kind of component), you can keep modifying thinkpads (or any other laptops) but sooner or later you will hit a performance limit for this.
- If you want repairability and performance I highly recommend a desktop computer, and if you want decent audio any chinese bluetoth lapel mic (like the e60) will beat your onboard mic.
- If i had your hardware i would test everything to see what can i still use (like hard disks), buy a used hardware close to a 4460 Kit with RX550, install Proxmox and just connect to the environment with the hardware i already have.
- Docks for specific hardware are rare, USB-C hubs aren't.
- 1080P Monitors are cheaper and better than laptops with 1080P screens.
- Your laptops can be as fast as your virtual machine image.
I could say to buy the T480 but sooner or later you will have the same problems.
Good luck
Hey Luke! You can actually convert the slightly newer 30 series (230, 530, etc) to the 20 series keyboards! Requires some minor modifications to the laptop, but it's doable!
Don't know if you're still reading these, but a Thinkpad T430 sounds like it would be perfect, specifically the version with the Nvidia NVS 5400m graphics card. You can buy a dock for it, it has better specs, and its even more upgradeable than the x220 (you can even change the cpu out to a quad core one, and if you dont like the keyboard you can change it to the older style one they discontinued in 2011)
The ultimate is definitely a fully specced out Thinkpad T430s.
You can put in the t420 keyboard. Drop in replacement.
Newer processor plus better graphics. Lower power consumption.
Works with docks.
16 gigs of ram.
You can put in 3 drives.
Fhd screen mods.
Amazing linux compatability.
Thinner and lighter than the T420.
Typical Thinkpad features other than that.
Keep an eye on framework laptops. No trackpoint yet, but they are fully upgradable. There is also a chance they would release a keyboard or trackpad with an integrated trackpoint since many people have been asking for it.
Wanted to recommend framework too.
Wanted to come back and add another laptop recommendation after coming across HP Dev One.
I used to be big into using trackpoints with my older Thinkpads, but after upgrading from an X220T and W701 to a X270 and P71 I've found myself using the trackpad more often instead, the trackpads are horrific on the older thinkpads so you're pretty much forced to use the trackpoint.
The trackpoint is still very useful on the newer thinkpads and something i would choose to keep but i could live without them
Pretty much no modern laptop has all that. And trackpoint is a nonstarter. I think its proprietary.
Hp has them and so does dell it's just limited to business machines mostly
The best option would be a custom laptop - something like the restomodded thinkpads from XYTech, but those are neither cheap nor readily available
Just a custom i7-3615QE x230 motherboard would be 150$ and it would probably solve all the problems. The other x330 mods could be added bit by bit as needed.
As others have said the t480 thinker would be a good choice. HOWEVER, I'd argue that the one of the desktop replacements like the P50 might fit your needs better.
1: Has wonderful trackpoint (as all thinkpads should), it also has emergency physical middle mouse button.
2: Has a dock with every port you could imagine
3: Very reparable, it has 4 ram slots, two are exposed to the underside door while the others are hidden under the fairly easily removed keyboard
4: Beefy quadro GPU perfect for encoding streams, however, it is nvidia, perhaps it would be better to look at an all AMD thinkpad, I haven't had much of an issue playing around with display drivers though.
5: 1080p is no problem, could get the option for 4k but you take a hit to the already slim battery (as a side note, I can get about 6-8 hours when I don't activate the quadro)
6: unfortunately no coreboot at this time..
7: the p50 actually has 2 msata bays (though you need a small adapter) and there's even an spot for an SSD too
8: I have not personally tested the camera and mic..
See Louis Rossmann's video review if you want to be further red pilled on the desktop replacement side of things th-cam.com/video/ig3xI8dUdm0/w-d-xo.html
YES! I have a P50 and I was thinking this the whole time!
Two words Framework laptop. On the repairability front, nothing modern beats the Framework laptop, everything is made to be repairable or replaced, ppl who got the 11th gen intel can upgrade to the 12th gen by replacing the mainboard board, have a look at it.
It doesnt have a trackpoint yet, but i bet it will have in the future, and it will be easy to replace too.
The X270 seems to hit all those conditions you require.
I own alot of laptops, the best and most practical one i own is definitely the Thinkpad X270, it is the last generation to still have a docking connector, upgradable RAM and a removable hot swap-able battery, but is also the first generation to have NVMe support and USB-C, you can also charge it through the USB-C port meaning you only need one charger for all your devices. 8 screws will completely remove the bottom cover giving you access to all the important stuff, has one DDR4 ram slot that is upgradable to 16Gig, You have the option of using a 2.5 inch HDD or SSD or a NVMe drive if you have the correct caddy for it. It also comes in 1080p if you can find it and has 4G LTE as an option.
The biggest downside is that it doesn't have the old style keyboard, but the Thinkpad Retro 25 is the same generation as the X270 so it may be possible to hack that keyboard onto the X270, I've yet to see someone try though.
Another downside is that although it can be docked to a standard docking station i am not aware of docks like the ultradock that the X220 has for the X270, i believe it just shares the same dock with the T470.
It's from 2017 so parts are cheap and still readily available, shares alot of parts with the X260 and X250.
Framework laptop might have everything you need. Maybe a ram upgrade would help out? Or a newer Thinkpad which is still user repairable
it doesn't have a trackpoint. there's some talk on the forums (community.frame.work/t/any-chance-of-trackpoint/1026/75) but i don't think it's gonna happen soon. might be a project, if you'd sacrifice the trackpad for buttons & a trackpoint...
The thinkpad trackpoint is patented so lukes only option for a laptop is a lenovo computer.
@@notuxnobux Other companies' keyboards have had the same thing under different names: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick
@@D0J0P I have heard it called the clit mouse.
Hi luke, please consider the **dell precision M6800.**
It has a trackpoint,
is extensibility upgradeable, has tones of ports and a bottom connection for a dock or a slice battery (I think you won't need it because it comes with so much ports (it comes with dvi hdmi out ect already) it's gpu is upgradable and honestly, it comes with top of the line CPU support (for it's time) 4 cores 8 thread i7s from around 2013~ and a MXM gpu slot, which means you can put some crazy modern GPUs in there and turn it into a mobile workstation that's still up to date to this day. Since i am cheap I'm running a precision M4600 that came with an i7 2820QM. + a Quadro GPU (it's a old shitter one but you can upgrade it to something decent ) I don't recommend my cheapo option tho.
Did i mention even the 2010 model had a 1080 display?
and the Precision M6800 can be modded to have a 4k display?
Basically TLDR Good specs, Has a trackpoint, Amazing Cooling Repairbility and Upgrade path, it has everything you want except corebooot. You will only need this computer luke if you upgrade it. It also has bluetooth and other extra features (I think it might even have a simcard slot too.) it's top of the line and probably better than any thinkpad that tries to "challenge" it.
Please luke, don't fall for the /g/ thinkpad meme, this even has extensible storage, even being able to swap the DVD drive easily into large storage.
thank you if you read this.
this is the best pick imo. thinkpads are a far cry from what they used to be and are basically no different from any other modern fagbook on the market. The only problem i got with the dell though is that they're heavy as fuck and the battery life is kinda shit. Also that hardware is a good bit outdated. I wouldn't be too surprised if it'd start chugging on any modern website within 5 years.
@@lightningstrike4680 Do you think an i7 4800MQ + a recent mobile GTX or RTX card + 16 or 32 gigs of ram won't last him? I mean with a slice battery it probably would. The 1080p screen is what seals the deal for me.
I know it's outdated yes, bit i estimate a minimum it has a good 8 years left of being relevant in it. for him he could upgrade his GPU along the way to make streaming or rendering videos more bearable. If on'y people stopped with the "Slimbook" meme already. It's getting tiring. The companies need to stop copying fucking apple already.
Just fork the old version of OBS that worked for you.
You can fit an entire Framewok laptop motherboard into a custom keyboard with a trackpoint and whatever ports you need and even attach a screen
other than that you have to give up on the trackpoint
Or make a framework tablet/cyberdeck so the motherboard is in the monitor blowing air upwards like the ASUS Mothership laptops
Nooooo, don't throw away them, that's so sad
HP Dev One: trackpoint, dock via USB C, “reparable” for a 2022 laptop (Ram & ssd), shipped with Linux.
Some people have mentioned it already but, I'd suggest looking into the HP Dev One. It's not an exact 1:1 match for what you got, but I think it's the closest modern thing you're going to find.
I can completely agree with you Luke. However, the only modular laptop I've seen that comes close to the early IBM ThinkPad designs is the new Framework laptop which exceeds modularity of the ThinkPads of old. Sadly, it lacks a Trackpoint. Trackpads have greatly improved but "I get it" and you are not alone. You might have to forego the Trackpoint when mobile. Or settle for a newer mostly non-upgradable ThinkPad. There are no more traditional docking stations, they have been replaced with USB-C port replicators. You might wish to consider a small NAS appliance or home cobbled one that can run Linux LXD containers or FreeBSD Jails and ZFS. Sync your laptop data, websites and git repos to the NAS. SSH to the NAS containers. Or connect external drives to the port replicator.
ThinkPad t430 / t440p / t480
t430:
socketed CPU ( up to 3rd gen 4 core i7 )
Classic keyboard mod
Corebootable
T440p:
Socketed CPU ( up to 4th gen 4 core i7 )
Bigger and bulkier than non p variant
New 6 row keyboard
No trackpoint buttons, but they can be easily added
Corebootable
T480:
Last one with removable battery
Soldered CPU ( up to 8th gen 4 core i7 )
New 6 row keyboard
Classic keyboard mod ( from T25, expensive and bit difficult )
Not corebootable
Least repairable out of the 3 but still way better than other modern laptops
The T440p seems pretty ok for your use case. It is one of the last thinkpads that is repairable.
1. TrackPoint: yes
2. It has a dock
3. Repairable: Yes, it is one of the last ones that is repairable you can even change the processor
4. I haven't tested but probably you can do a live with OBS or ffmpeg
5. 1080p is an option
6. Coreboot/OSBoot
7. Has MSata
8. Mic/Webcam is decent IMO
Extra: Has a CD/DVD drive so you can change it for a drive caddy and have all your data in there.
That's my recommendation.
I heard people talking about the T480. It is also good, but doesn't support coreboot and is pretty bad in terms of construction and repairability.
EDIT: If you want a computer to compile gentoo on, meaning something powerfull, maybe get an HP Dev One? It seems to also be pretty ok.
I recommend Lenovo ThinkPad T480. I have this laptop, therefore my recommendation comes from my personal experience.
1. It has TrackPoint, yes.
2. It is dockable, but with USB-C port this time. Lenovo got rid of the old docking connector, but USB-C is still fine.
3. As it's a business class laptop, it is repairable. You can find almost every part on Lenovo's website and order it.
RAM is not soldered. Modern CPUs in laptops are unfortunately soldered to the board.
Unfortunately, there is no way around this unless you want to settle for an older laptop with an older CPU that barely lasts 2 hours on a battery.
4. Livestreaming requires either a good CPU or the one that can do hardware acceleration with it's iGPU.
T480 has an option for both. While I recommend getting a model with the highest end CPU, if you can't, you could settle for hardware accelerated encoding.
5. It can come with either, 768p TN, 1080p IPS or 1440p something screen. Mine came with 768p and I replaced it to 1080p.
6. If you want coreboot, you either settle for an older, and slower laptop, like T440p, or find a manufacturer who manufactures and sells laptops with it like System76.
Unfortunately I have yet to find a System76 laptop with TrackPoint like input device.
That being said, you can still mod the T480 UEFI firmware, disable Intel Management Engine, remove WWAN whitelist, unlock advanced menus and etc.
7. T480 has an extra M.2 slot that can take in a WWAN card. This allows you to put an LTE or 5G modem in it, if it does not come with it already.
That being said, if you do that, you'll also need to route antennas to the screen chassis and either get the Lenovo branded Fibocom L850-GL modem,
or mod the UEFI firmware to remove the whitelist and put (almost) any WWAN inside. For hassle free experience, get the one that comes with a WWAN card.
Some people also managed to put an SSD in it's place, but I am not planning to.
8. T480 has the *best battery life possible in a laptop*, assuming you are using the biggest battery available for it, 72Wh.
It also has a hybrid battery system, which allows you to hotswap batteries on the go,
so you can keep multiple fully charged batteries in your bag and swap them as you need them without having to shut down or hibernate.
9. There is an option for a backlit keyboard. Also, the keyboard has liquid drain holes in case you accidentally spill something in it, it has good chance of surviving.
10. The webcam and microphone are fine, not amazing, as expected for a laptop.
11. It takes in power through USB-C, which is somewhat universal, so you can borrow someone else's charger (if it's powerful enough) if you forget yours.
If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.
for the right price don't skip on refurbished hp elitebooks with trackpoints
i often find them to be more easily repairable and higher build quality than thinkpads
on newer models the dock is with usb-c cable, but still good amount of ports, works just fine
also why don't you downgrade obs to a previous version for a while?
T440, (4x0) would be my recommendation. I get them cheap on the used market, fix them up with new SSDs, RAM, battery and give them to employees. Dock, trackpoint, pad, etc. Good with Linux.
Just in case you ever DO need to worry about syncing after all, syncthing is a great way to do it. Using it for years without issues. Combined with git and some scripts for total automation I keep dozens of systems in sync without much of a thought. But I also don't use trackpads - so I know nothing ;)
Apple iPad Pro (in Rose Gold) with a Hello Kitty dock -- yep, checks all da boxes ✅💯👍
I think I already said this, but I just finished watching through the video-
Look at a dell precision m4800. I have one for the specific reasons you mention, sans streaming (although it can livestream through OBS). It’s super easy to repair, docking station is like $40, and it’s also very nicely designed. I think i got it for like $430
Oh yeah and it has a trackpoint right?
@@hidde1626 it does
Just use that Lenovo and plug into an external graficscard. Some can be used through a port, or just put it through a pci-express lane. If not available, remove the wifi and put an adapter in and use that pci-express-lane. Give that a shot.
I have older computers as well that sometimes have some use from 2006. If never versions of OBS cause problem then just stick to the old version, not that complicated. Or upgrade hardware.
Not to mention that you nowadays can rent virtual computers through amazon. Pick what works for you.
The new iPhone 14 solves this
My main pc is librebooted X200 with custom 3d printed ssd cover/tray. When I need horsepower I pull the ssd (literally pulls out) and plop that into sata to usb 3 adapter on the desk that runs into a conventional tower pc underneath. That ssd doesn't even have any bloat like partition table or grub. Was a bit tricky to figure out how to setup though. Pretty sleek solution, no syncing, can continue work where I left it, I'm happy.
Seems like you want a home server
That's the real answer here.
You can get a docking station for the T400. That’s not a feature exclusive to the X series (yes you will miss out on the extra hard drive but at least you will have some docking functionality).
Yeah I really didn't understand what he meant by that. Why shouldn't the T400 have a dock
Take the desktop workstation pill, they're built for performance and do not cater to normies. I just bought a used Dell workstation for 140€ with a quad-core Xeon, 16gb of ram and a pretty decent graphics card. It's a brick shithouse though, so forget about moving it around.
m1 macbook air, it is actually not as lame as you think but I still haul around a real computer
I'm very happy with my T440p. I changed the display with a 1080 panel, upgraded the cpu with an i7 and installed 16 GB ram. It's a thing of beauty.
This man fucks with r/Thinkpad did you do the touch pad upgrade too? I build this machine like 3 years ago with he extended battery it's a soldier
I have too many computers. All my files are on a little 1U server and I use NFS to access them. Over the wired network it's perceptible as fast as local, and I have various jobs that automatically back up stuff, I also manually backup to external drives too so I can review what has changed.
Any 51NB ThinkPad, x62/x63 are great: modern CPU and motherboard in an old ThinkPad chassis. Perfect laptop.
1. Yes: all the hardware is the same as the old ThinkPads with the classic keyboards, except for the motherboard, RAM, CPU, SSD, display
2. Dock ports are removed, so unfortunately not on most of them. I think the x330 does have functional dock though
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. 1440x1080 on a lot of them, 1920x1080 on others (e.g. x210)
6. x210 does
7. Probably
8. Probably not
Where can you find them?
This isn't an answer to the computer question, but to the file sync question.
For years, I've had a desktop setup at home that has 6TB of storage. When I needed a laptop for personal use as I was travelling a lot, I didn't like the price point surrounding models that could house 6TB and I didn't want to buy another drive anyway if I didn't have to.
My solution was to write a script that automounts my desktop at home's Documents directory to a local directory using sshfs. Everything is setup with shared keys, so this appears seamless to the end user. You just open your machine from anywhere with an internet connection and your files are just there.
There are some quirks, such as, if you want to watch a movie on your laptop, you have to rsync it to your local machine first. The buffering over an ssh connection is terrible, but for most things I do, this has been fantastic. All of my machines now share the same Documenta directory that gets updated in real time.
I think the HP dev one has a track point and with a USB C dock should work
I'm daily driving a T440p, corebooted, i7 with liquid metal(worth it for the thermals), has a dock, has a nipple, is repairable, can live stream. For your storage get a HDD dock. You can get all the free drives you want from old PCs and just swap em in, the newer keyboard isn't bad, you can put a great panel in if you want, it's as easy as switching ram. The webcam and mic are mid but good onboard mics are a myth.
I am a Tech hoarder when it comes to PCs and Laptops. Love my ThinkPad T61 and my little ASUS EeePC 1015PX 😁
I love my T61 but it will only work until 2038 along with all other 32bit chips
Think pads are well designed. I have quite big hand and i can use right thumb to navigate pointer without moving my hands of keyboards, and left thumb to press big buttony "left click" on top of trackpad. Therefore I don't need trackpoint. Have you tried it?
Oh no haha... Time to go dumpster diving
Thinkpad p52 is pretty good.
1. It has a trackpoint
2. It's a tradeoff, but you can get USB-C docks.
3. It is better than other modern laptops. I've had it for three years and it runs fine with linux. You can change:
- the battery
- the drives (sata 3 and/or m.2, depending on the exact config)
- the memory
It still holds up well mechanically after carrying it everyday in public transports for three years.
4. You can livestream on it
I think the p50 still had the dock port, if that's important to you. The p52s is the slimmer version and probably has soldered RAM, so stay away from it. I think the p53 is pretty similar to the p52, but I don't know if the RAM is soldered or not.
Builds yourself a cyberdeck, be a giga chad people deserve!
I wanted to recommend the Framwork laptop due to repairability, but no trackpoint, so: No.
The other option would be the HP Dev One, which has a Trackpoint, but I am not 100% sure about the repairability points. It looked to be pretty easily serviceable for the most common parts.
With both you have USB-C and can use USB-C docks.
Get a HP Dev One and settle for a USB-C Dock. Not nearly as nice as that tray for ergonomics sadly.
I know i'm late, but couldn't you just clone an older version of the OBS repo?
Framework laptop checks most of the items off the list.
no trackpoint unfortunately, even when people requested it so much
@@zloboslav_ I agree
get some rgb lights around your desk
I thought for a second that Luke will throw away all of his PC, laptop and go full Amish.
Since ThinkPads are now indistinguishable from other laptops, I moved from an X201 to a cheap used HP EliteBook 835 G7. I fully expected it would be a glued POS but was pleasantly convinced otherwise when I took it apart. Downside: no integrated Ethernet (yeah...), no more "real" dock, I now use their external G5 dock. I didn't intend for it to replace my desktop but I liked the experience and used it that way, with an external monitor for a while. I moved back to desktop for sit-down use, because I have better graphics on that, but for the kind of things you do it wouldn't make a difference. Get one of the models with a trackpoint if you prefer that, I did too but I ended up not missing it on mine due to the nice glass trackpad. I don't like the models which have rows of keys to the right of the return key, either get the one with no numeric or full numeric keypad.
T400 till T430 have dockingsstations. Saw it, had it, used it, great piece of hardware. SInce the T440 generation the Docks are used over USB-C. Not as good but usable.
T440/s/p still have dock connectors. Source: own one
@@SolubleShoe True Story after some research looks like there are real Docking stations till T490 generation. Don't mind what I said before.
I have my Linux OS installed on an 1TB portable SSD. I can just plug in the SSD to any machine (e.g., two machines in my home, one laptop in my dormitory at school, one desktop in my lab), and boot into my only OS. It works perfect for me. No need to sync anything. (Btw, you can also install a Windows into portable drive using WinToUSB)
Luke is fully embracing Ted Kaczynski at this point. An-Prim all the way hahaha
I don't think Ted had 3 computers and used TH-cam to ask for advice on which laptop to shop for
Maybe the thinkpad t430?
+Quad core i7
+1600*900 display
+Unofficially supports classic keyboard
~same mic/webcam
~same 16gb ram max
- 14 inch
- 5.1 lbs
- no libreboot
10:27 OH MY GOD
luke smith feet reveal :o
You have no idea how bad things really are to expect even 1-2 of your requirements to be met by anything made after the x230. The T480 or workstation thinkpads are the only things remotely close to meeting yoir requirements, but modern thinkpads are soy.
Luke smith you’re giving me high blood pressure or something. this is how Alex felt when he was forced to watch those sex movies😵💫 save the thinkpads noo
T480 I think 🤔
- it has track point
- It can also be used with a dock I guess
- Upgradable battery
I'm not sure at all but the framework laptop might have what your looking for but I honestly have no clue
HP Zbook Fury G7
-trackpoint
-docking available via thunderbolt
-modular and repairable
-powerful
-1080p
-multiple storage expansion bays
-incredible mic array with good speakers
Based and tedpilled
Lenovo T440p. It has a docking station available, it has the trackpoint, you can repair it as in you can upgrade or buy the same parts as in:
- Screen
- keyboard
- trackpad
- ram
- Storage
- CPU
- battery can be easily removed and changed
- wifi card
- 2.5" ssd or hdd
- DVD drive
All of these parts are pretty easy to change. You need to remove the battery and then remove 4 screws and slide open the bottom case to access everything.
Even the motherboards are available on ebay same with cases. I am 100% sure that it can handle your livestreams too.
Now let's go through the "Dream" parts:
- the screen is either 1336x768, 1600x900 or 1920x1080 and all of them can be changed to 1080p screen.
- Coreboot is available
- The webcam and mic are servicable and decent
I Hope this helps.
I know what your going to love....a Brand new Mac m2 air...That has everything your looking for.
Soldered RAM when the SSD (NVMe) is replaceable makes no sense with modern notebook computers. Both of my current notebooks have soldered RAM; it makes no sense and only contributes to e-waste if the RAM modules go bad.
Good
You can buy a 1080p screen for the T400+ series and replace it yourself. I did it on my T420. The wires stay a bit odd inside but as long as you screw it shut well, it won't be an issue.
You should get the new macbook pro 2021 16 inch
either your comment will be deleted for being a "troll" or luke's next video will feature him fanboying over apple products
I highly recommend the T480. They are the best price to performance thinkpad currently.
I have a few spare T480 if interested
m1 mac really is the best alternative
t. ex thinkpad user
worst take ever
@@denzore facts
If you need something - do it yourself.
Take Thinkpad T420 and coreboot it and install intel 3rd gen into it - something like i7-3740QM and install 16GB ram into it. Do not forger 90W power adapter.
Additional notes. T420 have FullHD matrix modification - you can intall 1080p matrix into it.
Also it has msata.
This thing will have all what you described in you requirements list and will be more powerful than your x220.
nice
i use multiple computers constantly at school (i have a quick setup script that installs git-bash and some tools). i have bash aliases to help with sync'ing:
gpa: finds all recently modified directories, adds, commits, and pushes
gua: git pull on all repos
this doesn't solve the "one computer to rule them all problem", but this minimizes the pain of sync'ing, and makes your data more robust.
thinkpad yoga x13 gen1, 250 dollars and mogs the shit out of old crin/g/e pads
You can't even remove the battery or hard drive without fully opening it. No normal sata drives. Memory soldered. Money down the drain.
soo many things
1. there's a ton of laptops that are repairable and have a trackpoint. they're usually business laptops. dell, hp, thinkpad. not a hard ask.
2. any basic modern laptop will have the horses to stream, and will have a workable webcam / mic. not a hard ask.
3. any modern laptop will have a usb c port, which means you can attach a 'dock'. not a hard ask.
3. good luck with coreboot lol
4. I never got used to trackpoints, but I use a qmk keyboard, and have a layer which turns the vim keys into mouse movements. its not amazing to me, but maybe give that idea a shot.
if I were to actually recommend laptops, it would be:
1. a modern business laptop from dell/hp/thinkpad.
2. an eluktronics/system76/chinese clone laptop, if you want horses.
3. mnt reform if your hacker is bigger than your common sense.
4. frameworks laptop if you like usb-c
honestly though, if I read between the lines, it seems like what you really want is a laptop that has a repair ecosystem that'll last 20 years, is built like a tank, has (more) modern hardware, and a trackpoint.
... sounds like you want an old thinkpad with newer internals. good luck I guess?