I used to love the old Fatalis. My favorite god at the time was Chronos and with his two and no backstep penalty it made for great times. It was hilarious watching the melee players chase you and them never being able to catch you while you were still able to attack facing them
Not sure if you played or not at the time of this item but bakasura was actually really strong at that point of the meta so building it on him was actually double op, and made bakasura extremely hard to fight at early levels because of his passive as well as the slow from the item.
I think Golden Bow should make a return as a starter item, but with the passive effect only affecting minions/camps and either have no power or very low power on it. I think they could make that item balanced, it just needed number tweeking that they didnt seem to want to do. But i think it would make for a good starter item.
Bow was Removed BECAUSE of its proc on minions, if it came back as a starter itd have to be a low amount like 10-15 damage in an aoe, helps but you dont lose lane just bc your opponent beat you to it
Manikin scepter was incredibly broken for warriors because of the slow which with 3 autos stacked to 24%. Thats a 24% slow at lvl 1 including dot damage it just was way way way too powerful
Wrath of Heaven works on the old Nu Wa kit, where u have to use all of her abilities to activate her final for as a serpent, which she becomes stronger. With that she could use that item. Plus her old 3 ability, after casting it, made her basic attacks do aoe damage. Maybe mostly works on Freya, and Nu Wa (old)
Old nu wa with a basic atack oriented build was far more broken than freya, and way too fast, yu would just see her pop her cage with all the enemy team trapped there, pop all their spells, become that hot snake lady and melt all the enemy team while running at mach 10 and dodging litterally everything, and get near her was a NO-NO cuz of her 1 following her
Yeah that why when she pops all her abilities for the her final serpent, she can get Wrath of Heaven. Plus i like the old Nu Wa better. We need more basic attack oriented mages. Her only major abilities that does damage was her Ult and her 3rd ability. Also being, she could spawn 5 minions which made her an insane solo/mid pusher.
khaled aladsani yeah we need but hi rez hates them tgats why mage build works better on chamos that were designed to be aa oriented aka sol and chronos
Sol didnt have to use all her abilities to get her passive, so the item will be useless. People like freya and NuWa (old) had to use all their abilities at the same time. For Nu Wa's case, so she could activate her old passive. As for freya, she would banish, then use 1 and 2, then ult. That would proc the item mostly. Even if she got her 1 and 2 back, she could use them again. Banish and her ult will still be on cooldown. On Sol it might work, but it just works way better on the Old Nu Wa and Freya.
the four stacking over time items were released after their minion stacking counterparts were already in the game, the theory was they would be decent for players learning the game who didn't farm right ,focus increased duration of cc so you had ymirs walking around with like 4 second stuns (remember no DR on stuns back then either ) you could only buy either frostbound hammer or frostbound amulet not both ,original fatalis also removed the backpedal penalty,wall of absolution was a mage item bough to counter assassins/mages built partial tank back then with void stones and either wall of abs or breastplate,fun things you missed were gem of binding (gem of iso's AA based sister) which was core on chronos and zeus,and dementors doll which was %hp per tick (think kuku/ then old AK)
Wyatt Davis I played for about 6 months before I got removed, u could literally take any hunter anywhere any lane and do well cause they had good clear with golden bow. it also broke duel cause people only played hunters. but who cares about duel lol
Matt Bell it was only bad for a short period in season 3 and then they removed it. It was never op before that and was pretty much only built by merc and Artemis
Ma'at's tome, devourers touch, warlocks ring, and ascendance weren't changed into the items that are currently in the game they all existed at the same time. This was back when items didn't all branch from 1 similar item and instead had their own trees. They were just alternate build choices that were easier to stack but didn't offer as much stats in the end. You could build one or the other.
Manakin Scepter was one hell of a trip. Easily the most overpowered, most single-handedly game breaking item to ever exist in Smite. That was a fun PTS lol
The timed versions of stacking items weren't their old versions, for example maat's tome existed ALONG book of thoth, they built of the same item, same with warlock's ring, ascendence, etc. That's why they have similar, but not the same, names.
You missed the most important thing about Fatalis: You didn't move slower backwards! Which, back in the day, made Thanatos waaaayy too OP, you could run AND hit with your Q, miss that time..
I can see ascendence being used in xbal builds over transcendence because he doesnt really have the wave clear he needs to have to get the full use out of the item immediately
Man I really miss Achille's Spear. It was a active and not an item but it was so cool and unique. Used to just buy it at the beggining of the match on Bellona, Ravana, Osiris etc.
Number 2 would be really broken on quite a few gods, say ao kuang. 1 vs 2 you lower one of them down enough to ult and you land nearby, pop your dragons and Invis and then unleash dat dragon and boom you got a god who will hit you faster than a lmg with an extra 50% of his magic damage. Sounds insanely broken. Just imagine a poly ao kuang doing that to you, and everyone knows how much poly on ao kuang does
Actually Ascendence and stuff where added up in addition to the current stack items and then removed cause the stacks where still stronger and noone bought the minute versions.
I miss golden now, not the ok version but I miss the weird builds you could have. With it. It was sometimes used I the old unicorn builds if people remember them
the reason that manikins scepter was never introduced is because it would have been extremely unbalanced. can you imagine a hunter burning you down with basics or how about belona and erlang shen blowing you up with burn damage every basic they hit and stacking! fuck that shit that would mean i could stun you and burn your health pool even faster than quins sci's already does. more importantly though it's passive is similar to malice, Odysseus bow and mystical mail which are still very bloated items in today's meta. for all you new comers to smite i highly suggest taking time to read passives on tier three items. basically makes your experience if your a smart player much more enjoyable.
Ma'at tome and the other items were not changed they got removed, they were in the same trees as their counter parts but got removed because no one built them.
trust me, the focus mechanic was so horrible. Nowadays people still complain about how much CC this game has, now imagine an ymir with a freeze that lasted longer than 4 seconds. That's not fun.
I dont think Fatalis was OP so to say... I just think they could've taken the penetration off it and it wouldn't have been as abused... even though I'm SURE it was removed because Cernnenos was released at the time and had a free frostbound in his kit but eh, details.
Remember season 2 tank meta, can you believe there was a time when hunters had full power pre nerf golden bow and fatalis but it still wasntt OP because Tanks and Warriors were even more OP, back when Bellona and Vamana were literally S+++ tier Threat Level: God because of the old Runeforged Hammer
So Manakin Scepter was a starter item that slowed you by 8 percent and was a bleed type thing for 20 bonus damage every basic? And it could stack? Meaning you could have a sort of frostbound hammer if the slow stacked up to 24 percent at level 1? with the added 10 damage bleed each second for 2 seconds that could stack? That sounds fucking cancerous.
nothing like golden bow eh? riiiight... let's just skip the chain lightning effect on Odysseus bow than. works pretty damn well for the same exact reason, and the lightning can bounce between targets to a much greater distance than the 15 from golden bowm provided the targets don't move far enough from each other
Goldenbow was very nice! I admit I'm bit more annoyed with the removal of hastened fatalis. I don't see a difference in a hunter (or Freya which is who I used it on) being able to stick to their target like assassins can still do. Mercury, for example, can beat your face off without using spec delivery to reach you and you can't escape if it's a really good player. Not real impressed with the new hastened version for mages either. Don't get me wrong, I would prefer it be gone for everyone if it's simply just based on it being OP or not. Finally, and I'm not bragging or pinning roses, but it's not real hard to decimate in non ranked games using Arachne, Kali, or Mercury w/o hastened, but with it? I know there are tons of folks who can say the same, so in fairness...I never minded a hunter using fatalis. It made for a more fun game having to worry that if they hit me they could stick to me. Just my opinion. Also, and out of left field, Loki sucks! I quit using him bc it feels like cheating. When are they gonna nerf him? Am I the only person who feels this way about him?
they won't nerf loki ever because the game is balanced around conquest and all loki is good for is one shoting someone and then split pushing for the rest of the fight so if loki ever doesn't do his job the game is a 4 v 5 plus he has garbage early clear and the only thing that you can do as him early game is put him in solo lane and hope he doesn't get farmed
The thing about Loki is he's kinda shit in Conquest but is ridiculously OP in Clash and Joust... Hi Rez only cares about balancing Conquest, so I gues they don't much care about him one-shotting.
Focus would increase CC duration and for things like slows, it'd also increase their strength. Ymir could slow things for more than 50% with his glacial strike alone. However, all CC in the game was nerfed when the system was added (and then buffed when the system was scrapped).
Really... You don't see why up to 30 bonus damage every second at lvl 1 with 24% slow on top of that AT LVL 1 is OP?! Arachne was killing everything aorund her at lvl 1, Kal pretty much too... Any assassin with decent progresion did... Also no running away, that slow was just crazy... It would be picked even if it costed 1500 gold...
Yeah at the time I didn't know it could stack the effects. Like I thought it was just an 8% slow and that's it with a max of 2 stacks of damage like Bluestone. Would still be pretty OP with just an 8% slow but I thought it stopped there.
Man it's so clear you've never heard of 90% of these items. Gem of Gia price "770" and you just completely ignore 1/2 of why the items were changed or removed. Gem of Gia was 770 after paying 1480 for the tier 2. it was a 2250 gold item. Frostbound amulet was originally not going to be built along frostbound hammer, but then they realized nobody would really want it, because ability based gods don't get much of a use out of the slow. Fatalis wasn't removed because hunters abused it. Fatalis was removed because they couldn't give fatalis to mages and not hunters, or mages would run the duo lane like they did in season 3 worlds. So they gave mages a weak version of fatalis, and took it away from the hunters.
Hunters abused the shit out of fatalis. They are responsible for that item getting removed along with golden bow. I am glad that hunters can't use it anymore.
Track Scout I never said hunters didn't abuse fatalis. I said it wasn't removed because hunters abused it. If it were only because of hunters they would have just reverted it back to what the item was before. Think before you speak.
I mean, what do you even mean by 'never heard of them'. I played the game when Gbow and Fatalis were a thing. The rest were from a beta period when I wasn't playing the game. So if that's what you mean then yeah, I wasn't playing the game for 8 of the 10. But I researched them on the wiki. I'm well aware that Gem was 2250 total price. I literally took a screenshot from Smite Wiki so idk what you're even on about with that. I wasn't saying Frostbound amulet at the time was built with Hammer. I was saying had it been kept in the game it'd be pretty fun to build both at the same time. Fatalis was removed because of hunters. Don't care how you wanna argue against it but it was. The item was fine for a long time until Hunters started using it a lot and it got removed and added back so hunters specifically couldn't use it. That's a clear red flag to say Hunter's were the problem.
It was triggered on basic attacks, so guan didn't use it that well. It was bought on every assassin and made them way to strong early. It was basically giving everyone da ji basic attacks except it also made their basics slow.
Personally I would love to see season 2 golden bow back in the game. Or have golden bows passive be an enhanced feature like rage or shamans ring do just by doing damage, kills, assists, or even just over time it gains the aoe effect that merc and art loved so much.
Strolling Shishilan you're lucky to not have seen that. I had a build for rama arena what I called the Quadra maker (because I never managed to get pentas but I got a lot of quadras with it) that it was basically buying bloodforge, warrior tabi, and fatalis as 3 first items, you had all you needed, then you bought executioner and sais to melt tanks and kill everybody, and ez pz quadras. Seriously fatalis on adcs was awful, and it was even worse with frostalis, you're losing a 1 v 1 with anhur for example (one of the best to do frostalis) ? Get frostalis, lifesteal and sais, you won
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now future generations of smite players won't ever know how fatalis was and wonder how hunters would be if they had a "haste" effect :o
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good dont let them know about the cancer
Raul Sanchez hastened fatalis was for Bad Players...
Golden bow would still be around if Hi-Rez didn't buff it in the first place.
the only 2 items I've ever had the chance to use were Fatalis and Golden bow.
Franco Venica same
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I used to love the old Fatalis. My favorite god at the time was Chronos and with his two and no backstep penalty it made for great times. It was hilarious watching the melee players chase you and them never being able to catch you while you were still able to attack facing them
Yes, manakin scepter was taken out of the game because gods like osiris/arachne could just kill you lvl 1 and there was no counterplay.
Zachary Barkhorn Oh god I see it now. Osiris with 2 slows at level 1 would be fucking cancer.
Not sure if you played or not at the time of this item but bakasura was actually really strong at that point of the meta so building it on him was actually double op, and made bakasura extremely hard to fight at early levels because of his passive as well as the slow from the item.
Guess who's back.. Not broken as before but it is back
I think Golden Bow should make a return as a starter item, but with the passive effect only affecting minions/camps and either have no power or very low power on it. I think they could make that item balanced, it just needed number tweeking that they didnt seem to want to do. But i think it would make for a good starter item.
Bow was Removed BECAUSE of its proc on minions, if it came back as a starter itd have to be a low amount like 10-15 damage in an aoe, helps but you dont lose lane just bc your opponent beat you to it
Your prayers have been answered my friend 😂
Manikin scepter was incredibly broken for warriors because of the slow which with 3 autos stacked to 24%. Thats a 24% slow at lvl 1 including dot damage it just was way way way too powerful
1st Golden Bow now Hasten wow smite really hates Apollo
Supa Mane Pryme I doing Hasten only on Ah muzen cab. This is amazing... And removed :(
Wrath of Heaven works on the old Nu Wa kit, where u have to use all of her abilities to activate her final for as a serpent, which she becomes stronger. With that she could use that item. Plus her old 3 ability, after casting it, made her basic attacks do aoe damage.
Maybe mostly works on Freya, and Nu Wa (old)
Old nu wa with a basic atack oriented build was far more broken than freya, and way too fast, yu would just see her pop her cage with all the enemy team trapped there, pop all their spells, become that hot snake lady and melt all the enemy team while running at mach 10 and dodging litterally everything, and get near her was a NO-NO cuz of her 1 following her
Yeah that why when she pops all her abilities for the her final serpent, she can get Wrath of Heaven. Plus i like the old Nu Wa better. We need more basic attack oriented mages. Her only major abilities that does damage was her Ult and her 3rd ability. Also being, she could spawn 5 minions which made her an insane solo/mid pusher.
khaled aladsani yeah we need but hi rez hates them tgats why mage build works better on chamos that were designed to be aa oriented aka sol and chronos
And sol since she already gets a max of 25% extra basic attack damage from her passive + 50% that would come from the item.
Sol didnt have to use all her abilities to get her passive, so the item will be useless. People like freya and NuWa (old) had to use all their abilities at the same time. For Nu Wa's case, so she could activate her old passive. As for freya, she would banish, then use 1 and 2, then ult. That would proc the item mostly. Even if she got her 1 and 2 back, she could use them again. Banish and her ult will still be on cooldown. On Sol it might work, but it just works way better on the Old Nu Wa and Freya.
the four stacking over time items were released after their minion stacking counterparts were already in the game, the theory was they would be decent for players learning the game who didn't farm right ,focus increased duration of cc so you had ymirs walking around with like 4 second stuns (remember no DR on stuns back then either ) you could only buy either frostbound hammer or frostbound amulet not both ,original fatalis also removed the backpedal penalty,wall of absolution was a mage item bough to counter assassins/mages built partial tank back then with void stones and either wall of abs or breastplate,fun things you missed were gem of binding (gem of iso's AA based sister) which was core on chronos and zeus,and dementors doll which was %hp per tick (think kuku/ then old AK)
golden bow. I started playing smite right after it got removed lol
Wyatt Davis same
Wyatt Davis I played for about 6 months before I got removed, u could literally take any hunter anywhere any lane and do well cause they had good clear with golden bow. it also broke duel cause people only played hunters. but who cares about duel lol
Matt Bell it was only bad for a short period in season 3 and then they removed it. It was never op before that and was pretty much only built by merc and Artemis
Wyatt Davis same
i stopped playing when season 3 started and started back now, gotta say. removing the season 2 golden bow was really not neccesary
RIP GOLDENBOW
Ma'at's tome, devourers touch, warlocks ring, and ascendance weren't changed into the items that are currently in the game they all existed at the same time. This was back when items didn't all branch from 1 similar item and instead had their own trees. They were just alternate build choices that were easier to stack but didn't offer as much stats in the end. You could build one or the other.
I love the change on the confidence in voice over the years
Manakin Scepter was one hell of a trip. Easily the most overpowered, most single-handedly game breaking item to ever exist in Smite. That was a fun PTS lol
Oh how I miss Golden Bow, the item that made Bakasura relatively viable for a short period of time before it was removed.
hastened fatalis was one of my favorite items
RIP FATALIS
The timed versions of stacking items weren't their old versions, for example maat's tome existed ALONG book of thoth, they built of the same item, same with warlock's ring, ascendence, etc. That's why they have similar, but not the same, names.
You missed the most important thing about Fatalis: You didn't move slower backwards! Which, back in the day, made Thanatos waaaayy too OP, you could run AND hit with your Q, miss that time..
These videos are like time capsules of not only intersect. But smite aswell.
I'd hope to say my content has improved since these days haha
@@Inters3ct very much so. Keep up the great content man. 👍
i agree with you, wall of absolution sounds cool as hell. and i was really happy when they axed golden bow.
I can see ascendence being used in xbal builds over transcendence because he doesnt really have the wave clear he needs to have to get the full use out of the item immediately
Man I really miss Achille's Spear. It was a active and not an item but it was so cool and unique. Used to just buy it at the beggining of the match on Bellona, Ravana, Osiris etc.
I used it all the time too lol
qKahn Yeah I remember starting with Achilles on Freya in jungle. Have her really good buff clear tbh
RIPmercury, Season 1 to season 3 patch 3.14, died along with golden bow...Remember crying inside when it was removed :C
old heartseeker when it was doom orb for physical oooo the snowball
Yeah that was pretty OP. Didn't include it cause it didn't get 'removed' as such. Just changed. But yeah it was pretty good.
When he said he didn't know why manekin sceptre I knew he didn't play s2 pts
Number 2 would be really broken on quite a few gods, say ao kuang. 1 vs 2 you lower one of them down enough to ult and you land nearby, pop your dragons and Invis and then unleash dat dragon and boom you got a god who will hit you faster than a lmg with an extra 50% of his magic damage. Sounds insanely broken. Just imagine a poly ao kuang doing that to you, and everyone knows how much poly on ao kuang does
I have a feeling that most of these had at least some kind of drybear influence
I love how he's like man it'd be cool if this was implemented currently, and im over here like... no absolutely not.
Actually Ascendence and stuff where added up in addition to the current stack items and then removed cause the stacks where still stronger and noone bought the minute versions.
I miss golden now, not the ok version but I miss the weird builds you could have. With it. It was sometimes used I the old unicorn builds if people remember them
the reason that manikins scepter was never introduced is because it would have been extremely unbalanced. can you imagine a hunter burning you down with basics or how about belona and erlang shen blowing you up with burn damage every basic they hit and stacking! fuck that shit that would mean i could stun you and burn your health pool even faster than quins sci's already does. more importantly though it's passive is similar to malice, Odysseus bow and mystical mail which are still very bloated items in today's meta. for all you new comers to smite i highly suggest taking time to read passives on tier three items. basically makes your experience if your a smart player much more enjoyable.
Wrath of heaven cdr works against the passive. My abilities wouldn't be on cooldown long enough for me to take use of it
Golden Bow should return as exclusive item for Assassins and Warriors like Fatalis full effect.
Mercurys golden bow will be missed
Its backkkkkkk lmao
I miss Combat Blink
Manikin Sceptre was beyond broken, it made Arachne SS
Ma'at tome and the other items were not changed they got removed, they were in the same trees as their counter parts but got removed because no one built them.
Boombas mask being by far my favorite one
trust me, the focus mechanic was so horrible. Nowadays people still complain about how much CC this game has, now imagine an ymir with a freeze that lasted longer than 4 seconds. That's not fun.
I dont think Fatalis was OP so to say... I just think they could've taken the penetration off it and it wouldn't have been as abused... even though I'm SURE it was removed because Cernnenos was released at the time and had a free frostbound in his kit but eh, details.
Remember season 2 tank meta, can you believe there was a time when hunters had full power pre nerf golden bow and fatalis but it still wasntt OP because Tanks and Warriors were even more OP, back when Bellona and Vamana were literally S+++ tier Threat Level: God because of the old Runeforged Hammer
Fucking loved that meta. Cause I'm a solo main. I can see it being pretty cancer for non tank players though.
Golden bow ruined the ADC role. There was literally no reason to not pick a late game carry because of the insane clear you would get.
Should've seen the old Gauntlet of Thebes. You could have like 3k health at lv 11
The rataroskr nuts
I liked Dementor's Doll most. they managed to bring it back in the game in a much weaker way with the current Ethereal Staff though.
So Manakin Scepter was a starter item that slowed you by 8 percent and was a bleed type thing for 20 bonus damage every basic? And it could stack? Meaning you could have a sort of frostbound hammer if the slow stacked up to 24 percent at level 1? with the added 10 damage bleed each second for 2 seconds that could stack? That sounds fucking cancerous.
nothing like golden bow eh? riiiight... let's just skip the chain lightning effect on Odysseus bow than. works pretty damn well for the same exact reason, and the lightning can bounce between targets to a much greater distance than the 15 from golden bowm provided the targets don't move far enough from each other
r.i.p gbow may it rest in piece and fatalis too😭😣😢
They should make a katana that works like golden bow so hunters can't access it but mercury and serqet can have their niche item back
They do its called golden blade
oh man i miss golden bow and baka ult, was so op
My favorite item to try is wrath of heaven
Imagine late game sol with all cooldowns max heat swinging away at things
Can anyone imagine manikin scepter on like Bellona or Erlang today? I read the passive and holy shit obviously too OP
We can all agree that most interesting meta for hunters is the one with Golden bow. I mean come on Artemis was viable for once.
rageface memeaholic she's still fun and good to play
FlufflyKittyEater only cause she voiced by touka
The nostalgia
Mankin scepter would be deadly asf on baka ult 🙌
Hastenes fatalis.. My best friend
Loki i bet you built it bronzie
When they removed golden bow I stopped playing Jong wei. So op
manikin scepter was taken out cause it was extremely broken (this according to pros and streams)
Manikin Scepter got removed because it broke the game in the most un-fun way for everyone except the user
Woah baby manakins is here now 😲
Wrath of heaven would've also worked on ao kuang
we will miss you golden bow...
>top 10
>no particular order
Fatalis will never be forgotten
AlinBOSS 2005 im glad its gone, crutchlike if you ask me
I really miss fatalies 😫😫
Golden bow i used to play arachne in solo lane and couldn't lose because that item
RIP frostalis meta you will not be missed
I miss golden bow so much.
Goldenbow was very nice! I admit I'm bit more annoyed with the removal of hastened fatalis. I don't see a difference in a hunter (or Freya which is who I used it on) being able to stick to their target like assassins can still do. Mercury, for example, can beat your face off without using spec delivery to reach you and you can't escape if it's a really good player. Not real impressed with the new hastened version for mages either.
Don't get me wrong, I would prefer it be gone for everyone if it's simply just based on it being OP or not.
Finally, and I'm not bragging or pinning roses, but it's not real hard to decimate in non ranked games using Arachne, Kali, or Mercury w/o hastened, but with it? I know there are tons of folks who can say the same, so in fairness...I never minded a hunter using fatalis. It made for a more fun game having to worry that if they hit me they could stick to me. Just my opinion.
Also, and out of left field, Loki sucks! I quit using him bc it feels like cheating. When are they gonna nerf him? Am I the only person who feels this way about him?
they won't nerf loki ever because the game is balanced around conquest and all loki is good for is one shoting someone and then split pushing for the rest of the fight so if loki ever doesn't do his job the game is a 4 v 5 plus he has garbage early clear and the only thing that you can do as him early game is put him in solo lane and hope he doesn't get farmed
RealisPhrase yeah that's true I guess. He still sucks. 😂
The thing about Loki is he's kinda shit in Conquest but is ridiculously OP in Clash and Joust... Hi Rez only cares about balancing Conquest, so I gues they don't much care about him one-shotting.
Jake 3752 how is loki op in joust,there are like 2 assassins that are even remotely good in joust
plus close range assassins kind of get shit on in clash
Hardest nerfs
wtf they had something that increased cc duration?! I feel sorry for people playing back then
Focus would increase CC duration and for things like slows, it'd also increase their strength. Ymir could slow things for more than 50% with his glacial strike alone. However, all CC in the game was nerfed when the system was added (and then buffed when the system was scrapped).
Fatalis is back
gbow is proof hi rez has little knowledge on how to balance their game
Fatalis will be in our hurts for ever
Mercury main so golden bow :(
at worst, for GB just do like hastened fatalis, make the item be only for melee gods
Ryûho Baka would be op and I don't even wanna imagine Osiris proccing it
Does anybody remember the old lifesteal item that had 15% chance to reset your abilitys cooldown upon using it
Oh and it had pretty much the same art as circlet of focus
hey bro, wsp?, I was wondering if you would let me use your videos as a reference, to do it in Spanish
wrath of heaven on guardians, like athena
now that I notice, it's always hunters that break the meta and fuck up items
Yep, #HuckFunters
#huckingfunters
Hunters are also the worst class in the game and adc is the least impactful role.
As an Artemis main I disagree😂
AHAHHAH LEAST IMPACTFUL, i agree that they are the worst class but they are probably the most impactful along with the jungler and mid
Why did you quit you channel is awesome
What do you mean? I still upload
RIP Fatalis
Golden bow for me
Why Hastened Fatalis Was Used So Much WHY HI-REZ WHY!
Bring back golden bow. #MakeMercuryGreatAgain
telling me mercury isnt good now? but can still crit out the ass and two to three hit most squishies
wouldn't wrath of heaven be useful on old nu wa
RealisPhrase Oh yeah true I forgot about Old wa.
osiris only has 1 slow in his kit tho im pretty sure?
his 1 but if you hit them with the 2, it's a 40% slow.
hea meant that people would build Frostbound on Osiris too,
a total of 3 slows with both items.
he said "if you have both these items plus osiris 2 slows in his kit" tho ^^
Wrath of heaven would be busted on ymir
Role guide season 7????
Imagine a melee only golden bow on gods like baka
You would never have a game without bell ,erlang ,or osiris tho.
Golden bow? DUH. Not anymore. It has returned a while ago in the patch 5.17.
FATALIS 😖
Was there an item that made you not be affected against lifesteal or am I crazy?
Shield of the Underworld (Now thorns) prevented lifesteal.
Inters3ct Gaming I remember this item, but I was thinking of another, may be it was just a dream ;-;
Hah.
Smite gives me depression
Really... You don't see why up to 30 bonus damage every second at lvl 1 with 24% slow on top of that AT LVL 1 is OP?! Arachne was killing everything aorund her at lvl 1, Kal pretty much too... Any assassin with decent progresion did... Also no running away, that slow was just crazy... It would be picked even if it costed 1500 gold...
Yeah at the time I didn't know it could stack the effects. Like I thought it was just an 8% slow and that's it with a max of 2 stacks of damage like Bluestone.
Would still be pretty OP with just an 8% slow but I thought it stopped there.
Man it's so clear you've never heard of 90% of these items. Gem of Gia price "770" and you just completely ignore 1/2 of why the items were changed or removed.
Gem of Gia was 770 after paying 1480 for the tier 2. it was a 2250 gold item.
Frostbound amulet was originally not going to be built along frostbound hammer, but then they realized nobody would really want it, because ability based gods don't get much of a use out of the slow.
Fatalis wasn't removed because hunters abused it. Fatalis was removed because they couldn't give fatalis to mages and not hunters, or mages would run the duo lane like they did in season 3 worlds. So they gave mages a weak version of fatalis, and took it away from the hunters.
It says the total price right below it actually.
Hunters abused the shit out of fatalis. They are responsible for that item getting removed along with golden bow. I am glad that hunters can't use it anymore.
Track Scout I never said hunters didn't abuse fatalis. I said it wasn't removed because hunters abused it. If it were only because of hunters they would have just reverted it back to what the item was before. Think before you speak.
Log0ut they said it was bc of the hunters tho
I mean, what do you even mean by 'never heard of them'. I played the game when Gbow and Fatalis were a thing. The rest were from a beta period when I wasn't playing the game. So if that's what you mean then yeah, I wasn't playing the game for 8 of the 10. But I researched them on the wiki.
I'm well aware that Gem was 2250 total price. I literally took a screenshot from Smite Wiki so idk what you're even on about with that.
I wasn't saying Frostbound amulet at the time was built with Hammer. I was saying had it been kept in the game it'd be pretty fun to build both at the same time.
Fatalis was removed because of hunters. Don't care how you wanna argue against it but it was. The item was fine for a long time until Hunters started using it a lot and it got removed and added back so hunters specifically couldn't use it. That's a clear red flag to say Hunter's were the problem.
Manikin Scepter was removed because it was as OP as Guan Yu on his release
It was triggered on basic attacks, so guan didn't use it that well. It was bought on every assassin and made them way to strong early. It was basically giving everyone da ji basic attacks except it also made their basics slow.
I don't think that was what he meant. I think he was comparing it to release Guan Yu in OPness, not literally saying it made Guan Yu OP.
Exactly micheal
F. Lovati guan was magical man, than get changed later on. What you talking about?
Yeah i misread. whoopsie.
Personally I would love to see season 2 golden bow back in the game.
Or have golden bows passive be an enhanced feature like rage or shamans ring do just by doing damage, kills, assists, or even just over time it gains the aoe effect that merc and art loved so much.
CryptoChronos that any hunter loved*
LikeADerp99 well it was only ever built on merc and art until they buffed it if the took it back to where it was it could make art usable again
MAKE FUCKING GBOW MELE ONLY EZ FIX
i built it on everyone before it was buffed, but then they buffed and everything changed
Elijah Franks your going places, but you gotta think, technically ullr is a melee
I miss hastened fatalis. I used it on every assassin I had (low rank person, never saw a hunter with it, never saw the horror.) and loved it.
Strolling Shishilan you're lucky to not have seen that. I had a build for rama arena what I called the Quadra maker (because I never managed to get pentas but I got a lot of quadras with it) that it was basically buying bloodforge, warrior tabi, and fatalis as 3 first items, you had all you needed, then you bought executioner and sais to melt tanks and kill everybody, and ez pz quadras. Seriously fatalis on adcs was awful, and it was even worse with frostalis, you're losing a 1 v 1 with anhur for example (one of the best to do frostalis) ? Get frostalis, lifesteal and sais, you won
@@danielfraiz74 same experience only quadras with rama