Gobsmacked to learn Tim is self taght on the piano {as well as everything else!}. Had assumed he had a classical concert pianist background! Even more impressed. As for working hard at things, to succeed, yes, but, Tim does have several natural advantages. Firstly, he has a creative and enquiring mind and is open to continuous learning. Second, he has a huge intellect and, more important than all of the rest; > Third, he has 'stickability'. The capacity to start, persevere and complete any task he sets his mind to - with total committment. Lot's of people have talent, of various kinds, but not the 'oomph' to carry it through. for various reasons. He is a great role model for going the unconventional route and being open to trying all kinds of new things. We never know what we are good at, or not, unless we try. Great to see him generously committing some time to being inspirational to others.
I was privileged to play Berowne in Tim’s Love’s Labours Lost back in 1993, directed by the wonderful Jenny Davis OAM at Midnite Theatre Company, CCGS. 🎼 Oh mistress mine where are you roaming? 🎶
I think Tim, we can all be kind to one another (a broad term but for me this feels like civility, decency and the golden rule) while also not condoning or allowing the seeds of hate to grow. In my country a rapist will be president. It doesn’t matter how kind I am, people I know who have been raped have to try and weather this unimaginable outcome in what should be a modern democratic republic. Kindness is good for many things, we also must have a strong and steady course that does not allow truly bad people from dominating us.
I think that being kind has nothing to do with tolerating one's behaviour, no matter how narcistic or sociopathic as it may be. No one has to tolerate, except or "like" that behaviour!! I do think that being kind is about trying to understand where even the "worst" person is coming from, hearing their story and perhaps be willing to put aside our biases and automatic emotional responses which are so fed by the media and internet. Having said that, if anyone ever hurt my kids all my biases, love , energy, investment and compassion would surely kick in and I know exactly what I would at least want to do to such a perpetrator! Whether I did or would be another story 🤣🤣
As a ‘straight white’ older man I find myself drifting ever more to the left than I already was though increasingly irritated with the radical left (as much as the far right) which now seems to represent something almost alien to socialist perspectives and often insufficiently informed on geopolitics and history. I find myself agreeing with so much Tim Minchin is saying as he articulates well ideas I’ve long held. Promoting positive narratives is surely the only way we’ll achieve any harmony in human society and address environmental crises also
Same. Old git here who is bucking the trend by moving leftwards. All of which makes me despair because the world is descending into cannibalistic rightism.
Tim's thoughts and conclusions about the damage that social media is doing to individuals and society,[ to how it is increasingly influencing; moulding & skewing the way we think and feel and judge - and therefore act - all driven my algorithms & profit ] are critically important for parents, educators and politicians to: digest, and to act upon.
What an interesting interview . I do prefer these more long form formats, where the guest is given the opportunity to unpack things without the pressure of time keeping
The world is a far better place because of you, your influence extends well beyond those who you have met, entertained or worked with, it is the 2nd, 3rd & 4th degree of contact that have benefited from your direct contact with so many.
I don't think we're bad at long-term thinking at all. It just requires co-ordination and personal trade-offs, and no one wants to be first to sacrifice
Agree with him. Tyere is a daying in tamil which says,two hands are needed to clap. If one person is abusive and the abused does not react,that act ends there. An eye for an eye makes everyone blind. We have so much hatred and violence in this world. Is it that difficult not to be violent and full of hatred?
I really rebel against the idea that we all have to be informed and have opinions. Why? We can't possibly know everything that's happening on the planet so how do we choose what to be informed about? I gave up on television and social media decades ago. I am entertained and occasionally informed by what _I_ choose on TH-cam, but otherwise I just get on with my life. My parents and grandparents had perfectly happy lives with little or no input from the so called "news" (which is often untrue). I'm happily and peacefully existing without it too. If someone asks what I think about a topic, I just say "I have no opinion about that" and they leave me alone. Mostly 😊. I think if you're lucky enough to be born into a peaceful happy life, why fill it with angst. That does nothing to help the people genuinely suffering.
Wow, I have had the same thoughts about the bad consequences of our species starting with farming (militarized societies and huge wars are among them), and I've never heard anyone else saying that - or if I have, they have only spoken about bad health consequences of starting to eat a lot of grains and starch. Yet, if we hadn't started farming, I guess we would probably not even have books. Farming made modern civilization possible, good and bad.
What’s up with stand-up comedians who get paid to get up on stage and decide in and out groups via public mocking going on TV complaining about people using a social media platform to decide in and out groups via public mocking?
e are not always able to access our capacity to be kind so at least we might try not to be unkind. This, in itself, would make a big difference. Love thy neighbour? Its a high bar. At least: commit to doing no harm.
Hey Tim, if you ever want to leave the UK cities and get out into the real world, would you do a gig with my Somerset based retro rock band? You’d be great and certainly not in any pigeon hole!
I wonder what his definition of bigot is. In my experience, society labels as bigots, people who hold onto views that they don't agree with, however much they try and persuade them of another perspective. That's not necessarily a bigot. It could well be somebody standing their ground, holding a different, and maybe unpopular, opinion.
It wasn't so long ago that Tim put all his creative efforts into fueling division and heaping ridicule on those he disagreed with. It made him wealthy. It is an uncomfortable truth
But are the people you have labeled bigots truly that or do you just don’t want to hear a different view point from the one your used to on a daily basis .
I think he would know the difference between someone who simply has different ideas or opinions to him and a bigot who is not open to any new arguments,ideas or who has not really thought deeply or in any considered way about the opinions they hold.A bigot is a person who simply has reactive views or beliefs or opinions based on little evidence but personal prejudices or disinformation,very little research or evidence would support their opinions.They are usually reactive.unable to show workings for their thinking,opinions often based in hate of certain groups or people based on things like race or gender...thats a bigot.Unexamined beliefs and opinions fiercely held onto despite any evidence to the contrary...its not merely a difference of opinion and I'm sure he knows the difference
I know that woman (Kate Elizabeth Becherer ) If you were born and raised in new York you'd know too, she's my family's Broker for 3yrs till now and a very good one if you asked me. No doubt she is the one that helped you get where you are!!!!
And then did you wake up and galvanise yourself in order to share that somnolence with the rest of us? (I'm afraid I can't share Tim's tolerance with ignorance and stupidity, although I am impressed by his forbearance.)
As long as Minchin reduces his profile, performances, broadcasts etc - then we will all get happier. If he was to reduce them to zero... then 100s of thousands of us will be very happy indeed.
Tim Minchin, you have been a personal hero of mine for so many years. Thank you for your intelligent insights and wisdom.
An extraordinary human being. Intelligent, ridiculously talented, solidly grounded and totally self-aware.
The most important thinker of our age. In my humble opinion.
Haha
“Define yourself by what you love” 🙏TM
Thank you both for such a good interview.
Extraordinary chap, like him a lot.
Lovely human being ❤
Gobsmacked to learn Tim is self taght on the piano {as well as everything else!}. Had assumed he had a classical concert pianist background! Even more impressed.
As for working hard at things, to succeed, yes, but, Tim does have several natural advantages. Firstly, he has a creative and enquiring mind and is open to continuous learning.
Second, he has a huge intellect and, more important than all of the rest; >
Third, he has 'stickability'. The capacity to start, persevere and complete any task he sets his mind to - with total committment.
Lot's of people have talent, of various kinds, but not the 'oomph' to carry it through. for various reasons.
He is a great role model for going the unconventional route and being open to trying all kinds of new things. We never know what we are good at, or not, unless we try.
Great to see him generously committing some time to being inspirational to others.
Is Tim saying Self Compassion is more important than Self Belief. YES. Way to go Tim.
We'll look back on this era of social media as if it was some huge inadvertent social experiment. Yet we all seem to buy into it.
Fantastic interview...so much good sense spoken ❤️
I was privileged to play Berowne in Tim’s Love’s Labours Lost back in 1993, directed by the wonderful Jenny Davis OAM at Midnite Theatre Company, CCGS. 🎼 Oh mistress mine where are you roaming? 🎶
I think Tim, we can all be kind to one another (a broad term but for me this feels like civility, decency and the golden rule) while also not condoning or allowing the seeds of hate to grow. In my country a rapist will be president. It doesn’t matter how kind I am, people I know who have been raped have to try and weather this unimaginable outcome in what should be a modern democratic republic. Kindness is good for many things, we also must have a strong and steady course that does not allow truly bad people from dominating us.
Agreed
Do you consider 'Friends Close, Enemies Closer' a worthwhile tactic in the U.S in the coming 4 years?
I think that being kind has nothing to do with tolerating one's behaviour, no matter how narcistic or sociopathic as it may be. No one has to tolerate, except or "like" that behaviour!! I do think that being kind is about trying to understand where even the "worst" person is coming from, hearing their story and perhaps be willing to put aside our biases and automatic emotional responses which are so fed by the media and internet. Having said that, if anyone ever hurt my kids all my biases, love , energy, investment and compassion would surely kick in and I know exactly what I would at least want to do to such a perpetrator! Whether I did or would be another story 🤣🤣
As a ‘straight white’ older man I find myself drifting ever more to the left than I already was though increasingly irritated with the radical left (as much as the far right) which now seems to represent something almost alien to socialist perspectives and often insufficiently informed on geopolitics and history. I find myself agreeing with so much Tim Minchin is saying as he articulates well ideas I’ve long held. Promoting positive narratives is surely the only way we’ll achieve any harmony in human society and address environmental crises also
Same.
Old git here who is bucking the trend by moving leftwards.
All of which makes me despair because the world is descending into cannibalistic rightism.
Thank you TM, C4, KG-M. To TM my late son loved your work and would have enjoyed this interview.
❤❤❤
Tim's thoughts and conclusions about the damage that social media is doing to individuals and society,[ to how it is increasingly influencing; moulding & skewing the way we think and feel and judge - and therefore act - all driven my algorithms & profit ] are critically important for parents, educators and politicians to: digest, and to act upon.
Thank you for posting this insightful interview.
Wow Tim, that is fantastic, I like you even more now 🥰
Love this man. I feel the same things. Sometimes i can do no more than bear witness. It's so hard.
perth / new zealand / aussie are way closer than what anyone realises!! 💜💚🖤❤️ such a great listen
What an interesting interview . I do prefer these more long form formats, where the guest is given the opportunity to unpack things without the pressure of time keeping
Brilliant podcast! TY! Couldn’t agree more!!!!
How have I never come across this channel before. Thank you TH-cam algorithm. Love Tim Minchin.
Such a cool guy, love listening to him share his reflections on so many different topics.
Wow Tim Minchin just entered my favourite people of all time list from that one interview
An amazing interview, thank you for producing it.
The world is a far better place because of you, your influence extends well beyond those who you have met, entertained or worked with, it is the 2nd, 3rd & 4th degree of contact that have benefited from your direct contact with so many.
a GOOd human being, inspiring top bloke. Great full to have seen and heard him. 👍😎👍
Krishnan’s wearing trainers so I know this is gonna be a cool, laid back chilled sort of vibe
Definitely podcast wear, not Channel Four News wear.
Impeccable!
Thought provoking Thanks
Ground hog day is the best musical I’ve ever seen. Still listen to the last track. Don’t give up Tim!
And the “something something quantum quantum” is a real fav too
He’s so right about SM.
Go Tim! Brilliant man!!!
Tim Minchin fascinates me.
A peek under the bonnet shows us that social media makes money by baiting us to fall out. Best thing we can do is step away 🤷
How lovely ☺️
Tim always in my team
I don't think we're bad at long-term thinking at all. It just requires co-ordination and personal trade-offs, and no one wants to be first to sacrifice
Ditto Tim. I have reverted to pre-internet life.
good podcast. ignore the bots
So so true
Agree with him. Tyere is a daying in tamil which says,two hands are needed to clap. If one person is abusive and the abused does not react,that act ends there. An eye for an eye makes everyone blind. We have so much hatred and violence in this world. Is it that difficult not to be violent and full of hatred?
I really rebel against the idea that we all have to be informed and have opinions. Why? We can't possibly know everything that's happening on the planet so how do we choose what to be informed about? I gave up on television and social media decades ago. I am entertained and occasionally informed by what _I_ choose on TH-cam, but otherwise I just get on with my life. My parents and grandparents had perfectly happy lives with little or no input from the so called "news" (which is often untrue). I'm happily and peacefully existing without it too. If someone asks what I think about a topic, I just say "I have no opinion about that" and they leave me alone. Mostly 😊. I think if you're lucky enough to be born into a peaceful happy life, why fill it with angst. That does nothing to help the people genuinely suffering.
It's no coincidence that the kindest people are the poorest.
I love you Tim
Wow, I have had the same thoughts about the bad consequences of our species starting with farming (militarized societies and huge wars are among them), and I've never heard anyone else saying that - or if I have, they have only spoken about bad health consequences of starting to eat a lot of grains and starch. Yet, if we hadn't started farming, I guess we would probably not even have books. Farming made modern civilization possible, good and bad.
A wise man.
Young Tim is finally maturing 😊
We could also be maturing (finally) enough to understand him more....I kind of feel he was always there, waiting for us to catch up. 🙃
Funny cos even his flop movie was why i watched it and Tim didn't fail me. Its why i still write!
Thanks Tim. Keep being you.
First proper chuckle from this one was at 2:24 Just finished discussing how Tim's un-pigeonholeable - screen caption 'Comedian and musician' 😆
What’s up with stand-up comedians who get paid to get up on stage and decide in and out groups via public mocking going on TV complaining about people using a social media platform to decide in and out groups via public mocking?
Tim. YOUR MINE! Love you
*you're will probably impress him more. 😊
@daniellamcgee4251 thank u for liking me!
@@stevieweevyC You're welcome. 😁
@@stevieweevyC You're welcome. ✨️ 😊
TM 🙏👍
💖💖💖💖
18.00 -> Metacognitive overdrive An “Aha” moment.
His 'Song for Phil Daoust' wasn't particularly nice or kind.....
Phil deserves it. He took Tim away from me for years! Phil ruined Tim. TIM came back
e are not always able to access our capacity to be kind
so at least we might try not to be unkind. This, in itself, would make a big difference.
Love thy neighbour? Its a high bar. At least: commit to doing no harm.
*solipsistic is the word intended, I think, rather than narcissistic. 24:44
Hey Tim, if you ever want to leave the UK cities and get out into the real world, would you do a gig with my Somerset based retro rock band? You’d be great and certainly not in any pigeon hole!
I wonder what his definition of bigot is. In my experience, society labels as bigots, people who hold onto views that they don't agree with, however much they try and persuade them of another perspective. That's not necessarily a bigot. It could well be somebody standing their ground, holding a different, and maybe unpopular, opinion.
What you say is in significant contrast to your many bitter and toxic remarks against people you don't like eg Tony Abbott.
Nobody has to grovel.
ignore the Bots
ignore the Hate TV
How can it be a kindness to not see genocidfe, or to recognise the injustce? That's where I struggle with this philosophy.
Also this comment section is very lazy!
Finding Bluesky a lot more calm but i can get information.
I await it's ruining by a bonkers billionaire.
It wasn't so long ago that Tim put all his creative efforts into fueling division and heaping ridicule on those he disagreed with. It made him wealthy. It is an uncomfortable truth
Rot
Minchin is great, but whoa, the other guy is annoying.
I want an honorary degree. My family said they won’t LOVE me with one.
this type of video divide and conquer is ignoring the real issue
METTA innit
it would help if Channel 4 stopped promoting Hamas even when the Palestinian People say, "We prefer The Jews to Hamas".
Got a source to back that claim up?
Well said, Joso.
But are the people you have labeled bigots truly that or do you just don’t want to hear a different view point from the one your used to on a daily basis .
I’m not saying that sometimes you don’t encounter bigots in life you do but to throw that label around means it loses all its power.
Exactly….what he really means is other people have different opinions to him and he can’t deal with it.
No, "bigot" has a very specific meaning.
I think he would know the difference between someone who simply has different ideas or opinions to him and a bigot who is not open to any new arguments,ideas or who has not really thought deeply or in any considered way about the opinions they hold.A bigot is a person who simply has reactive views or beliefs or opinions based on little evidence but personal prejudices or disinformation,very little research or evidence would support their opinions.They are usually reactive.unable to show workings for their thinking,opinions often based in hate of certain groups or people based on things like race or gender...thats a bigot.Unexamined beliefs and opinions fiercely held onto despite any evidence to the contrary...its not merely a difference of opinion and I'm sure he knows the difference
There must be a REASON why you feel targeted.
I do not.
$75k biweekly changed my mindset and behavior, my goals, my family and I've to say this video has inspired me a lot!!!!
I'm feeling really motivated could you share some details about the biweekly topic you brought up ??
Big thanks to mrs Kate Elizabeth BECHERER ❤️❤️
Her top notch guidance and expertise on digital market changed the game for me.
I know that woman (Kate Elizabeth Becherer )
If you were born and raised in new York you'd know too, she's my family's Broker for 3yrs till now and a very good one if you asked me. No doubt she is the one that helped you get where you are!!!!
I started with a miserly $1500. The results have been mind blowing I must say TBH
I fell asleep after the first word
Soothing 😊
And then did you wake up and galvanise yourself in order to share that somnolence with the rest of us? (I'm afraid I can't share Tim's tolerance with ignorance and stupidity, although I am impressed by his forbearance.)
And yet you were still able to tell us
As long as Minchin reduces his profile, performances, broadcasts etc - then we will all get happier.
If he was to reduce them to zero... then 100s of thousands of us will be very happy indeed.
Misery! 😂
a married man with kids but he comes over as a feminine lol
And?
@@TesterAnimal1 yes good question :) and ? 💁♂find a man and try something new?
Wow…
This goes on for 3 quarters of an hour
Good luck
I gave up after 3 minutes of him pontificating
Goldfish.
Stick to the songs Tim.
Why should he?
@shoelessjoe428 Because we don't need to be lectured to by any more celebs. He'll just end up halving his audience for no good reason.
You say this like his songs weren't nearly all social critiques.