CLOUD UP 1 Vs VIK 1 - Naturehike Budget One-man Tent Reviews
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024
- Towards the end of last year, I managed to pick up a couple of budget-priced solo tents to review - the Cloud Up 1 and the Vik 1 both from Naturehike. Now, at last, is the first impression tent off!
I purchased my very first One Man Tent - the one man version of the Cloud Up. I also managed to find another one man tent by the good folk at Naturehike, The Vik 1, and thought it would be a great idea to have a look at them together.
Interested in either of these tents, or any of the other gear / tents mentioned in this video, then you can find links below!
Cloud Up 1 - amzn.to/2xWYjxY
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Cloud Up 2 - amzn.to/39SYF5U
OEX EVOLUTION PROWL XL Sleeping pad - tidd.ly/ecbfe396
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I have the latest version of the VIK 1 and there are a couple of differences I noticed. 1- the pole tension on my tent is just right all around. I did see where the tent you set up has extreme tension on the end. 2- The roof vents were changed on the latest version due to the issues you were having. on my tent the vents must be opened from the outside, but they do stay wide and open. As far as use, for central North Carolina in the US this tent is quite good for colder weather. I have used it twice so far and the first time was in very damp cool conditions. I have found the tent to be quite dry in the rain. Condensation was present, but quite manageable considering I was waking up in very dense fog and rain. The pros for me are light weight, easy to set up and enough room to sit up in. if you are over five feet nine inches tall you may be a little cramped in this tent. The cons are I am not entirely confident how this tent will hold up in the wind, and the light color is not so great at night when there is a full moon. Compared to my Lanshan 1 this tent is a little heavier, but also a little roomier. If I had to pick one or the other, for cold weather I will go with the VIK 1 and use my Lanshan 1 in summer time. If are interested, I have posted some images in my blog. www.flickr.com/photos/soleful2001/albums/72157688966469750 I would also like to mention that I enjoy your channel and look forward to more videos.
Thats some great feedback there, thanks - some food for thought - and good to hear that there are newer versions with some of the creases ironed out, so to speak. Will check out your blog posts, thanks very much for watching. All the best.
how dry is quite dry..?
@@niallmoore8240 my experience I the two rainy nights spent in the tent are that it is as dry as my double wall tents. Keep in mind that there is condensation but it was minimal in some very damp conditions.
@@soleful2001 thanks!
@@SynthFreaq that is a great idea. I am planning on using this tent for a bike tour and I will definitely be doing that
For a one man tent the cloud up 1 is very roomy, better than any 1 man tent I've had, and I've had loads over the years, + height is great.
I can vouch for the Vik1 being an extremely promising tent. Changed my Cloud Up 2 Upgrade for it and will never go back. It's usable weight is >1kg and condensation has not been an issue so far. :)
Cool - I'm looking forward to testing this out in earnest, if it is a good little tent then the weight saved is going to be awesome. Thanks for watching!
Have you used it through the autumn winter months?
@@thewelshnomad7094 Yes, in autumn. I dont like winter camping...
What do you count as required for usable weight please?
@@iamapopsicle9457 Without footprint and guylines.
Bought my cloud up 2 because of your amazing reviews! Have since taken it solo through storms and deserts. Was also considering the vik1 a few months ago for it's unique combo of weight savings + freestanding. Would love to see a bad weather review on the vik1 (though it would take some real guts to sleep in it through a Dartmoor storm haha)
Challenge accepted, Raymond - lol. I will hope to get it up on the moors at some point soon. Thanks very much!
@@SummitOrNothing legend!
Trev, try putting the vik up without pegging the doors out before you put the poles up 😁
Great review as usual 👍
Cheers, i will bare that in mind in future. Thanks! Trev!!
I think orange Cloud Up is made of polyester. A bit heavier than nylon but also thicker and maybe more durable. I have Cloud Up 1 green (polyester), newest version. Yes, it's narrow but ok for one or two nights. Polyester version has much thicker floor and can be used without groundsheet. Nylon version has only 20D nylon floor and will tear and wear without groundsheet.
Oh, Ok. Thanks for the info. I have just had a little look into it and actually what they are saying is the orange and green are the same material - 210T Polyester, and the grey and maroon are 20D silNylon. I didn't think the floor felt much different in this one than it did in my green, but either way, I always like to use the footprint for extra durability any way. Thanks for watching!
Been using my Vik1 since 2 years in Norway , Iceland and Scandinavia in general and im absolutely satisfied.
Taking my Nemo Hornet 2p only when im with my GF and the Nemo Hornet 1p tent is also 450 euro while the Vik1 is only 150 euro .
Vik 1 performs as good as a 400-500 euro tent .
Nice review although u pitched the Vik wrongly thus the Huge Tension on one Side which made it unable for you to easy open the Condensation Openings in the Roof with just one hand
Great video as usual👍 There is two pockets low down ether side of the door on the Cloud-up 1⛺️
Ah, I will look out for them when I next get in it - cheers Roger!
Hello! You just got yourself a new subscriber, I love all your reviews, straight to the point and reasonable, actually talking about things that matter to users instead of advertisement dribble or poor quality home reviews.
I've been researching which tent to get and really wrestling with it, and your videos just kept popping up again and again for the tents I was searching and were very helpful.
Right now I'm debating whether to get a lanshan or a VIK. Both seem like the best priced while also being very low weight. A comparision would be cool (but not necessary... I'm already subscribed lol). Totally get it if you dont though, doing a comparison of every tent you own with each other would probably take you forever.
Love the videos Trev. Its so refreshing to see someone work on a budget and review gear than just watch people use the same all singing all dancing gear all the time. Recommended you to all my canping friends etc. Top notch. Also next time you do a charity hike let me know id like to come along
Thanks very much. I would love to test out some goochy gear, but its good to know you can still get out and enjoy the wild camping experience without forking out £600 for a tent. Its not like I'm arctic camping! And yeah, I should have been doing plenty of charity walks by now, will hope to get some organised before the year is out. Even if the Himalaya's is cancelled, I will still do some fundraising for both Hospiscare and the NHS, so watch this space, and also follow us on Facebook for more details. Stay safe, and hope to see you soon!
Summit Or Nothing Also Trev if you get a chance check out the Vango Helvellyn 200. Semi geodesic. Lots of space inside, big vestibule that opens up on both sides. Crackin tent and solid as a rock in windy conditions
The Vik1 looks like something NASA would make, a good summer tent by the looks of it. Cheers, Trev.
Yeah, its a nifty little tent, real quick to put up, packs down light and small, just be interested to see how it performs. Could be a fun summer trying if we are allowed back out in time. Thanks for watching!
Nice to see you back Trev mate, you're looking well. "Solid Shaft" 🤣😂 I like the white tent overall design but a small gust of wind or two and it's all over I reckon.
You liked my solid shaft, heh? Doing OK this end, cheers, Lee. Hope you are keeping well too. Thanks for watching!
@@SummitOrNothing Love a solid shaft Trev 🤣 Difficult to find at my age 😉
Nope bro ;)
Using Vik1 in huge Winds in Norway Hardanger Vidda and Iceland Laugavegur as well as Highlands in Scotland and it never let me down while a MSR hubba got destroyed right beside me ^^
Another good review Trev, I also see a great opportunity too practice your hammock set up by fixing two decent anchors in the walls in garden corner 👍 namaste mate
I have tried putting a couple of brackets in the two walls - you may notice one in the background, and one to the side. Unfortunately the wall to the side crumbled, and when I tried to fix into the stone my impact driver packed up - I still haven't repaired it! Shame - would have been good to set it up for this isolation! Namaste!
Great review & comparison, thanks. Just ordered the Nik 2 - I like my comfort I'm afraid. 200g and a lot less space isn't worth the compromise, not for me. Looks like a really good tent - I'm baffled why there isn't more talk/reviews about it.
So what do you recommend mate, VIK or cloud ?
I was expecting all positive review dump maybe because you are endorsed or something. I was wrong, I can see you're honest and objective. I think I'll go with Vik 1 when they restock for a 570 km hike. Thanks
Great review as usual Trev. Wives hide things... they move things around... they all do it!! :)
Haha! Yeah, I think you might be right about that!
Great video trev! I'm currently looking at the Cloud Up 2 as my first tent. Will be using it for bike packing aswell as hiking. Thank you for your reviews on it they've been really useful. It's great to see these comparisons of other options too.
Trev... there has been a query on one of the UK wild camp sites about the centre floating pole. 'under or over the main pole?' After taking a look at the official Naturehike illustrations... The floating pole should sit above the main pole and the clip with elastic should connect to the main pole also. Only saying because I don't want this clip breaking on you
Ah, cheers John. I will bare that in mind. Thanks.
Hi, thanks for the video :)
I have 2 questions, please, in relation to the Cloud 1 person tent:
1. Does the rainfly touch the (inner)tent, or is there space between them?
2. Are the stake out points adjustable or non-adjustable?
Thanks
What tent will you recommend for wind and rain? Cloud up 1 or vik 1? -watching from philippines
Nice review..I prefer the cloudup 1..I'm planning to get it for bikepacking.
If its quick you're looking for, try a quecha pop up tent from Decathlon. Cheap, quick to set up, plenty of room inside and no condensation. In good weather i dont even bother pegging it out. It stands alone with no pegs but in windy conditions it would probably take off if not pegged out. A few downsides...
1. No vestibule, but i put my dd superlight tarp up if i need coverage on an outside space.
2. At 2.4kg, its not suitable for superlight carry.
3. The shape when packed is disc like so wont fit in a rucksack, but can be bungeed to the outside of your rucksack or can be carried seperately as the bag for it has a carry strap.
I have an all terrain (except mountaineering proper 😏) trolley so i love it.
I'll go have a look for your Cloud 2 review.
Cheers. Very helpful vids 👍⭐
Cheers for the feedback Caroline. I have used a pop up tent on the beach before, and could I get the bloody thing to pack down?? Hahaha... Maybe a good review in there somewhere though. Thanks for the suggestion. Cheers!
@@SummitOrNothing yeah, i forgot to mention that as one of the downsides... Once you get the knack it is easy though. You kind of have to get over the "am i going to break it" barrier. As long as you follow the twist right, it won't break. Famous last words 😏
Hi, Thanks for making this video.
I am still trying to decide between these two tents. I would like to mention that Nature Hike has a Cloud up 20d which was commented on here before that weights 1.2kg total weight, while the vik 1 also is 20s and is technically even heavier at 1.3kg according to the website.
Is the cloud up 1 even with its single pole side considered free standing? Would you consider the cloud up 1 over the vik 1 in 20d since they are the same weight double wall vs single?
Love watching these tent reviews.
Cheers Doug - glad that you enjoy them!
You do the best entertaining tent reviews Trev... 👍😎
Thanks MAx - glad you enjoy them.
They should make a VIK 2 in a dark green, brown or camo.
The cloud up 1 in white/silver weights 1.25 kg (different materials) :)
Nice tent reviews/comparisons, keep 'em coming! I've just bought a 'Semoo 3-season' tent.
Thanks, will do! Not heard of the Seemo - I shall have to keep an eye out for it! Cheers for watching!
Great review let's hope you get out soon to test them out
Yea, lets hope so. Although may do the Easter garden camp tonight in the Vik 1! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video Trev. Nice to see the comparison. One tent you may also like to try, (as if you really needed an excuse). is the Vango Blade 100 Pro. Great piece of kit in my opinion, but also cheaper than the two tents here. There is a lot more to this tent than it first appears, but please do tie the pole to fly, rather than just chucking the outer on, or you could have problems in the wind. A high spec tent at a low price, with Vango workmanship.
Cheers Walter - I have looked at the Blade, so yeah, when funds permit I will probably look towards purchasing one of them for a test. Cheers!
@@SummitOrNothing At the moment £65 at Costco. Do please peg out the inner ground sheet first to make it stand correctly when erecting. Cheers mate
Good review Trev. I have considered buying a Nature Hike tent for a while. Having seen the Coleman Batur 2 with black out technology for £150 I am unsure. It weighs 2.4 kg. Is the extra weight and cost worth it for darkness?. ATB. Josh
I guess its all preference. I myself like to get up and see the sunrise when I'm out on the hills, so the black wouldn't interest me... not unless I had a hangover at a festival lol. Cheers for watching!
Fly business class, get an eye mask with your flight ✈️! 😂
Hi Trev! Thanks for all the comprehensive reviews on all the gear so far, really appreciate them!
Is there any chance you could offer me some details on the physical dimensions of the packed Vik tent? I'm looking for the folded/collapsed poles length and the volume of the tent skin when lightly compressed by hand in a stuff sack. (say comparing it to a 1.5kg standard flour pack or other UK reference :D )
Keep them coming and enjoy the summertime, looks like we're going to have a sunny season!
Andrei.
Sorry for late reply, somehow didnt see this comment come in. The pack is roughly about 400mm x120mm x120mm if that helps at all . The poles are about 400mm, and not sure about how far this will compress down.
Just bought the cloud up one. Not put it up yet, good to see
I'm sure you will enjoy it! Cheers!
I never understand why they call a tent "3 season" when you have to pitch up inner first. in my 3 season are 2 with the most rain. One season should be better. It is no fun pitching up a tent in rain. Anyway good review thnx
The Vik1 looks cool, I will take this in consideration
Yea, its certainly an interesting little tent - i am hoping to test it some adverse conditions soon - although I do believe that this is an earlier model!
I've just ordered a Naturehike cloudup 1.. Thanks for your help in making my decision. I've no idea how the outer would go up first though? I'm trusting in your advise Trev, no pressure..
Hi Arran. Its a great tent mate and easy to pitch the outer up first. You peg the ground sheet out, then stick the frame up, then the outer slips over the frame and clips into the four corners of the ground sheet and then you get in and peg the inner up. I have done a video on it if you want to check it out! th-cam.com/video/MyLVlE6_cb0/w-d-xo.html
I think it's a good idea. I bought one for 73€. I hope be good
VIK and the ol DD tarp would be a versatile light option.... if a way to set the tarp over the tent frame for bad downpours was possible even better ... great vid
Yeah, that just may be an option - thanks for watching!
Really good review. Thanks for sharing. Seasons greetings 👍😊🏕️🌲🎅🏼
Great review it's hard to find the right tent, and or the right for you sleeping set up. to many options and features. I motorcycle camp and have a smaller bike
so size and weight are a constant concern ,also take down don't want to spend hours to pack up camp. Your video was helpful in my decision making process,cheers mate.
Thats great to hear and i know what tou mean. Packing up a tent 2as what put me off for so long. I think Naturehike certainly make tents that are fairly easy to put and easier to tear down. Thanks for watching!!
Have been following your videos the past days. Great work.
Does anyone knows if the vik mesh doors have two zippers or one?
Trevor is that cloud up 1 sil nylon ?? My 2020 version Cloud up 2 weighs in at 1480g minus the footprint..
I am pretty sure it is silicone nylon, yes. And yeah, 1.48 was what we made the cloud up 2 without the footprint, I think. A good weight for a decent tent.
Vil1: you should install the pole, and THEN pitch the stakes, last ones the porch and the oppsite side one.
Yes, I thought that myself. I guess if you were up on the hill, a peg or two to hold it down would be preferable, though.
Summit Or Nothing sure. If you have an email address I can send you 3 or 4
pictures with some extra tips for a perfect and condensation free pitch if the Vik1. It is a very interesting, light and solid
one person tent, but needs to be pitched with some tricks, otherwise you will experience some very annoying condensation.
@@adopancia7445 Ah, that would be much appreciated. My email is info@summitornothing.co.uk - thanks !
Summit Or Nothing Pictures sent 👍
Adopanci A, I own the Vic 1 and waiting to get out and try it. Could you send them pics to me also. That would be great. My email is daikelly08@yahoo.co.uk... Thanks buddy
Dzięki za ciekawy materiał. Zastanawiałem się nad Up 1. Natomiast po tym filmie zainwestuję w UP 2. Pozdrawiam
Have these been tested in heavy rain and or wind and how do they perform?
"Eh, you never put things away." Ha ha ha my wife suffers from my never putting things away. Plus I grew up poor and never throw stuff out. She suffers badly.
Haha! Its a woman's prerogative to put up with us blokes lol.
Great video bud, I bought the vik but not used it yet. Hoping its not going to be condensation hell lol but looks a great tent.atb
Thanks very much - hopefully there are methods to combat the condensation. Thanks for watching!
Who caught the Lord of the Rings reference? 😄 Loved the video!
New subber here, i am buying the vik here soon, ill keep you posted on my opinion, probably going to use it fort the Appalachian trail.
Ah, cheers Matt - it would be interesting to hear what the new alterations are like. Thanks for watching!
kazoo maakt dezelfde tent als natuurhike cloud pike 2 voor 1/3 v d prijs . eany good ?
you should do a review of the new cloud up 2 with the 10d outer is much lighter than the original cloud up 2
I will keep an eye out - thanks!
@@SummitOrNothing I've just ordered a 10d Cloud up 2. 930g trail weight. Excited to see how it turns out!
That Vik 1 could not be more Identical to my MH Hylo 3... You are correct in thinking there will be condensation, mine gets puddles depending on the temp and how many ppl sleep in it....
Yeah, I have just checked that out - the are identical. The condensation issue was the first thing that sprang to mind when I saw it was a single skin tent. Thanks for watching and for your feedback.
@@SummitOrNothing Also, I have the older version of the Cloud up 2 (without the side guylines), and I'm gonna get a couple of these grip clips to use as makeshift guy out points; it might be useful for your Cloud Up 1 too.
www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/equipment-c3/accessories-c10/cord-clips-buckles-c86/grip-clips-p447
I like the orange one Trev. Love the video
Thanks Ray.
the other vestibule is for gear with the zip to give access
Yeah, still seems a little pointless not having a door - you still have to get out and go around to put your back in and out and could be annoying trying to work through that little slit. Also, if it was a door, it would make lifting that vent up a lot easier too. Thanks for your feedback though, and thanks for watching!
Summit Or Nothing I assume your issue with the vents is mostly because of how terrible you put it up. That is definitely not how the foot end of the poles is supposed to look. PS: besides the too-early and way-too-tight pegging out of the vestibules, also definitely don’t clip the spreader pole in before you’ve clipped the entire main pole and then equalized the tension on that one.
The Cloud Up 1 somehow makes no sense at all if for only 150g more you get the 2 person version which has much, much more room inside for 1 person plus some backpack and food.
There's plenty of room inside the one person, more than a lot of one person tents
thanks for posting something about the Vik 1 .... i’ve been looking at that for a while now .... be interested to see you use it for a camp should work great .... oh btw the door over the vestibule converts into a sort of awning using trekking poles .... check out the naturehike site for the details. Managed to get a local hike in with the wife (which i Vlogged shameless self plug sorry 😄) but backpacking and camping is on hold at the moment here in michigan .... itching to get out though have a great three day hike planned backpacking and fishing together should be awesome 👍👍 stay distanced, stay patient and stay healthy Trev ... atb Dave Mc
No shame in plugging, Dave - its great that you managed to get out during this crisis. I am about thirty minutes from Dartmoor on foot, but haven't really left the house yet - I might before too long but don't want to upset people... or meet people either haha. I also have a great couple of days planned for when I get back out though - but until then.... Stay safe Dave, and thanks for watching!
Interesting. Looks like an older model of the Vik1. Mine doesn’t have the poles coming through the the skin on the air vents. I think in heavier weather those holes will be perfect for rain to stream through. Mine also came with a foot print. The vik1 is definitely not a tent for taller people. I think the second vestibule is a massive missed opportunity, they should simply have made it a larger enclosed floor space. I get my 42l backpack in with me though (I’m 1.73cm). Bring a cloth to wipe down the inside, condensation can potentially be an issue. Having said that, I have pitched mine close to the ocean and had no issues. Not a terrible little tent, could be more stealthy which would make it a Bivy alternative. I would not buy it again though. Save your money and buy good quality lightweight gear, you will eventually in any case. Gear is part of the fun of hobbies like hiking.
Cheers for the feedback, Wynand. Its an interesting looking tent, but yes, this version does seem to have many flaws. I thought the same with the window holes, but I cannot see how the tent will breath so I reckon there will be just as much moisture inside even without the rain. And yeah, having a closed off vestibule seems a bit strange. Still, will have to get out in it and see at some point! Cheers for watching!
What do you think about Aurora one ? Maybe you coule do a vidéo about it! Thanx
I've not heard of that tent. Will have a look into it,cheers
@@SummitOrNothing Wechsel Aurora one. Germany renown tente company,heavy Duty material very good quality
I like the look of these, but wish they would do them in drab olive green lol. Not a fan of being a beacon.
I think you can get the cloud up in olive green, I know you can the cloud up 2, I have one myself. Apparently though, tents are designed in these bright colours exactly to act as beacons making it easier for mountain rescue to find you from the air.
is the VIK 1 selfstanding like the msr-tents?
Yes it is!
Now the tents I need comparing are the naturehike Mongar and star river
I've not seen the mongar, I must admit, but from a glance they do seem very similar.
@@SummitOrNothing very similar. There's a few differences. I think one is based on the MSR Hubba Hubba so is symmetrical. The other off the Big Agnes Copper Spur so has a head and foot end.
Then there's mesh and partial solid inners
is it the cloud up 1 20D or 210T??? thtats a difference
20D
Thanks, again!
No worries!
I wish they wouldn't make some of these tents and such bright colors. I like the Earth Tone colors better like green beige and brown
Yeah, you can get the cloud up in a darker green, I use it in some of my later camp videos, but I know what you mean. I think its to be as visual as possible on larger mountain ranges to be seen from the helicopters.
How about the north face tent?
I think you have the poles in backwards on the vik 1 . I ha e the tent and each side is colored
I think you had the poles the wrong way round on the Vik1. Looking at another video, it seems there are two short legs and two longer ones.
Yea they are, a front and a back, but they are colour coded to the tent so I couldn't have got them the wrong way round.
@@SummitOrNothing Oh yeah, you're right. I guess you need to slide those clips around a bit then, because those poles bending at the end scare me. :D
I thought that too. I think if Trev had not staked out the two long sides before putting the pole in, there wouldn't have been the buckling issue.
@@richardabazley Yea I think the poles go in before all the pegs.
Can you do a review of regatta montegra 2, please?
Will make a note of that and see what I can do, cheers!
Does the VIK have two doors?
One door and a slitty window on the other side.
Does the VIK 2 has double door? (2 vestibule)
No only the one door, does have a slit in the opposite side so you can still store in the vestibule though!
@@SummitOrNothing The Vik 2 (210cm x 115cm) has double door with 2 65cm vestibules, only the Vik 1 (210cm x 85cm) has only one door and 1 65cm vestibule and an other 50cm vestibule with a little slit for putting shoes inside from the inner part
"Reach around and use my hand to pull it up'...
Ooo err, 😉
Thanks.
Thanks for watching
That cloud up 1 reminds me of the alpkit soloist. ..
Senang dengerin Aksen inggrisnya Mas bro hehehe
We need a bloody green colour. Why they make so bright tents ffs
I know you can get the Cloud Up 2 in green
@@SummitOrNothing I need to test this tent in green colour, I owe already naturehike Mongar 2 p. My question, does thermarest neoair x therm large max mattresses will it fit into vik1?
Подробный обзор и тестирование палатки CloudUp 1 20D в течение года - th-cam.com/video/MxXoPgdvLlA/w-d-xo.html
I got a ground mat with my Vik 1.
Yea tou probably did. Mine was second hand, good price off ebay.
@@SummitOrNothing have you used it yet?
@@nicktombs1876 yea, I used it three times this year. Check out the wild camping playing on our channel page.
@@SummitOrNothing I have started following your page but only in the last couple of weeks, I will have a look. How was the condensation? I haven't used mine yet.
Alpkit soloist all day long for budget with quality
I’m looking at the soloist or cloud up 2 the cloud up 2 is bigger so not sure.
Just had a look at a video for the soloist - it is almost identical to the cloud up 2, so would be interesting to see them side by side. Not sure if they have changed them now or not, but I did notice that the ring that the two front limbs connect into is the same as the one that Naturehike replaced with a Y piece in the upgrade. Apart from that, these tents look and are priced pretty much the samel. Cheers for your comment.
@@DJOutdoors yeah been after the soloist for a long time and absolutely love it so much quality for price it's on pre order at the moment and sells out fast .
Flinty Outdoors yeah I know it’s been sold out I watched border rambler vids he uses it and it looks good for strong winds and I like alpkit having got there BruKit and pipedream 400 bag
@@DJOutdoors I also have the brukit fantastic bit of kit
Yes everyone wife just like u never put it back😂😂
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Guide lines ? .... Guy lines.
I hear ya haha!
Relax your your two tense. :-)
Thats my joke 😆 🤣