This is so messed up for so many reasons but imagine how excited a student would be for their professor to reach out and say they have a job opportunity for them (and they probably assumed they were being singled out as someone who has a lot of potential in the industry) and then to find out it’s just an MLM..... Heartbreaking.
The fact that this is a *marketing* professor, the kind of person you expect to know the most about MLM schemes who’s trying to recruit them makes me think they got the position solely to prey on vulnerable students who make easy recruits. It’s despicable
It really is ... Especially a marketing professor. You know how you're acutely aware of things in your field that you otherwise wouldn't have been? Like if you're a nurse you look at hospitals differently, or a waiter looks at their restaurant differently than everyone else ... I'm a marketing major, so even though we all see the red flags, it just jumps out so blatantly that it's unbelievable this dope would not only promote an MLM, but that she'd even be involved with one in the first place.
It's like that thing chemistry teachers do sometimes where they're like "K turn the gas on and just let it go." Because it's a trick and they're waiting for someone to be like "Um no that's dangerous."
These MLM people ALWAYS say that they're "getting a lot of questions in their DM". It's a LIE. NOBODY is in their DM. They do this to make you believe that there's more interest in what they have, to make you curious.
I would have written back "omg I've always wanted to be a university professor! I didn't realize I had the qualifications since i just graduated! Awesome, let me know how i can go about securing this position through the university!!!! Thanks so much for blessing me with this opportunity!" 😆
When they say “they wash their hair Anyways” it’s like saying “buy a Lamborghini , you drive a car anyways “ like no , I LIKE MY $4 Garner, leave me alone
I buy the drugstore "compare to Garnier" stuff thats like $2 a bottle 😂 and rotate it with off brand head and shoulders too and my hair feels great. My scalp isn't great, but still getting that figured out after 20 years of shampooing my hair daily, so it's still recovering. But my hair is in great shape with my cheap ass shampoo.
@@shinyumbreon696 im glad Suave works for you! I used that as a kid because my parents were cheap, but I realized as I got older that it was not good for my hair, but I still don't spend more than like $2-4 per bottle of shampoo/conditioner
I am a college fashion professor and when I talk about business models, I specifically bring up MLM's and how predatory they are so my students are aware. I have had a few students look to join and although I can't force them to do anything, I can at least offer my guidance. I see it as my job to care for the whole student, and I don't want to see them scammed. And this professor should be fired for trying the push Monat, especially through the school email system!!!
It’s a cliche, but you really are doing the Lord’s work trying to protect the young people. So many college kids going door to door in my neighborhood trying to sell Adaptiv service right now.
Hahahaha I love when monet girls talk about how healthy and how much their hair has grown yet still wear extensions everyday like no honey let me see your natural hair
Obvious extensions ! The colors are so different. There is nothing wrong with extensions, but don't try to promote your "beautiful hair" as a result of the MLM product that you are trying to sell when its not all yours. Shameful!
Louis Vuitton gives bags to influencers in exchange for posts of them wearing the bag. They flood IG with these pics and the bags sell out via pre-orders before they even hit the market...so yeah, she’s wrong.
As if every single thing that is purchased in our modern age isn’t advertised on social media, billboards etc. via... pictures and imagery? I’m sure any one of her students could easily make a case against this theory. Yikes.
Seven minutes into the video and my husband yells from the other room: How many times is that woman going to say "PSA"? I don't think she really knows what a PSA is.
She worked in "fashion" but says pictures of your products won't sell them? .....Riiiiiiight. This woman shouldn't be a professor of anything and she needs to be reported. She's abusing her position of authority at the university...
@@sierrarose8860 same 😂 I really want one of those happy/sad reversible octopuses only because of how many cute ones I've seen on Instagram. I don't need a story to sell it to me, just a cute pic of a cute ass stuffed animal
That is horrible. A MARKETING professor pushing an MLM, I feel like she devalues her entire profession. She's spewing bs. I wonder how long until the university catches on now? Great video!!
The university absolutely needs to step in!!! Not only is she exploiting the vulnerability and financial precariousness of her students, she’s literally selling overpriced, toxic hair products🙄 if she were selling some kind of marketing course in addition to her class, etc., this MIGHT be a different conversation. What a shame that’s she’s flushing her salary on poorly made hair-care that is (according to the income disclosure statements) not making her any money. Sigh. Poor students.
And it’s super scary because I put my professors on such a high pedestal, when they recommend something I genuinely look into it because I assume that they only have my best interest at heart. This is so disgusting
Don't want to sound harsh but a bit less of a trusting attitude works better. They are getting paid to teach you, it's not done out of the goodness of their hearts.
@@snooganslestat2030 you’d think most would have to have some level of passion to educate people if you wanna pursue a career in college education though Like if I had a passion to teach anyone, I’d wanna teach college students because lower grade levels would be too immature for me to handle 😂😅
That what I’m talking about. When we’re 19 year old students, and we get advice from a prof that we respect and look up to, we break our necks to follow it. This is beYOND disgusting.
@@yeebler yeah, from context that appears to be what she meant and I learned that in marketing classes too. People buy products to solve a problem, so you need to convince them they have a problem and you have a solution.
I was actually taken aback at that comment. Me, as a consumer, saw this. BEAUTIFUL picture of the prince collection by urban decay. I want it. Give them my credit card info and send it to me. They’re social media image worked.
When I was a university student, my older sorority sister tried to recruit me to and MLM. I was so touched by her coming to me, thought she saw something in me and actually tried to set aside money for the starter pack. I was working 3 jobs (research, house cleaning, and a service job) to make ends meet and survive but the thought of what she was promising seemed amazing. I was a first generation college student, had no about money. After finding your channel, it’s insane to me the predatory nature of it all. The fact a university teacher of it all... she needs to be exposed dude
I once had a psychology professor who would talk about her marriage problems to the class then give us “exercises” regarding marriage counseling related issues. The class was Psychology of Personalities... lmao
someone who studies marketing would know exactly how to manipulate young people. so gross. use your knowledge and experience for good not evil people!!!!
Same with a few of my business classes. My books have sections about pyramid schemes/Ponzi schemes talking about how they are scams and need to be avoided.
"oh no, hun, you're missing out on an amazing business opportunity. Let me tell you about this great product which allows me to be my own girl boss" btw, using a term, which describes an underage woman, to refer to oneself... why don't women want to be taken seriously? No man would refer to himself as boy boss
This is an ethics violation! She is accessing her student's private information for personal use to promote and recruit for an MLM. She should be fired.
I know someone who graduated with a degree in Egyptology. When he graduated, he discovered that all the big Egyptology companies are not hiring, and the only option in his chosen career path is go to graduate school to get a doctorate in Egyptology, which will then qualify him to become a professor in Egyptology: it is literally a pyramid scheme.
At least have the decency to write a shitty book, charge $200 for it, and require every student buy it. That's the good old fashioned way to rob students blind.
Imagine having to listen to a marketing professor with this grating of a voice and THEN find out she also pushes an MLM... I'd be contacting the university's hiring department.
She usually refers to him by his name but you know when you’re recently married you can’t help but say husband every chance you get😍 at least that’s how it was for me😂
As a college professor, this obviously makes me nuts. My guess is that she's an adjunct, which means there's no job security and makes just about minimum wage. That's not an excuse, and she should know better. She should also know better than to call herself a professor when she's a lecturer. These former students should report her to the administration.
I googled based on the specific handbook sections screenshot in the video here and her title is Assistant Professor of Instruction at this giant university. As someone trained in marketing, I have so much trouble respecting any "expertise" this person would claim to have in the industry.
@@kimmiebraunthal4874 Dang, a for real detective lol! She's been doing this for so long and has probably been reported many times, so I wouldn't doubt if the university takes this seriously.
@@haleymist09 yes but not there is video evidence brought on by a famous TH-camr that anyone can watch any time: parents, students and colleagues. The University is lucky if they don’t have parents banging on their door asking for a refund for her class bc that’s exactly what I would be doing if she did this to my child.
Something about someone in any position of authority/with credentials using their credibility to sell to the people under them is extra disgusting. Nurses are notorious for this. So many nurses I went to school with sell thrive or plexus.
This is so unprofessional. I work in Corp America. We get in trouble if we use company property (email, etc) to sell stuff from LEGITIMATE second businesses. She needs to be seriously reprimanded and/or fired even?
My friend who is an accounting professor: has had promising students who participated in MLMs and those students did not get job offers passed on to them since it said something about their logic and reasoning, especially as accounting students. They lost out on real jobs with good money and benefits for the fantasy of an MLMs lies.
I think that’s a bit unfair. These MLM recruiters can be really convincing and persistent. Mature students aside, college leavers are still young and more easily influenced. Especially if they’re manipulated by a professor from their university! I look forward to the day MLMs are abolished and these disgusting companies go away. But people do make mistakes. And these kids shouldn’t be penalised do severely because of a hopefully small lived error in judgment
@@hilarymitchell3456 It is a recommendation. Not everyone gets one. If she is asked who she recommends, them working for MLMs is a big check in the con column. It is simply a natural consequence for falling for an MLM at that point in their lives, fair or not it is simply what happened.
I'm glad you followed up on this professor. The first time you showed us this person I was so shocked! If any of my professors did what this lady did I would report their ass so hard, and tell everyone I can about it. It just doesn't make any sense! She should know better.
I am not a lawyer, however, I am faculty at a university. This would be such a violation of ethics and fiduciary relationship. I am beyond shocked and grossed out by this behavior!
“It’s not a scary product!” Ummmm, I’d say a product causing chemical burns and hair loss leading to several class action lawsuits against the company, to be pretty scary 😬
When she's let go from her job because of her unethical behaviour towards her students I am SURE she's gonna tell her followers that she quit deliberately because she was making soooo much money on monet lmao
I only have an MBA so I'm not a professor (🙄) but I have no idea what she means by "images don't sell." If that was true, huge companies that with millions of dollars budgeted to market research on consumer trends wouldn't pay for print ads and billboards?? The problem with the appeal to authority fallacy is that I would never question her or raise counterpoints if she was my professor. That abuse of power of teachers selling to students needs to be stopped!
When I was 19 (10 years ago) I had cancer and lost all my hair from chemo. It is absolutely laughable that monat reps think monat would have done anything to prevent it 🤣🤣🤣
The most i pay is organic plant based shampoo from the local planet organic store and it's £5.00 for 500ml 🙄🙄 the audacity to ask for £70.00 for something that i would bet money on that it's the same formula as ur cheapest drugstore shampoo is literally insane.
Yeah this happened to me in high school, it was my choir teacher. She spoke up Mary Kay my entire hs career and pounced as soon as my gullible friends and I turned 18, and I ended the year having to drop out of college after my first semester because I got in so much debt. Wish I knew about your videos back then! Thank you for what you do and saving people from my same mistakes. ❤️
Is it just me or does it look like she has extensions for her bottom layer of hair? It cracks me up how the Monat huns often wear hats or extensions. Nothing wrong with those things, unless you’re trying to shill miracle hair care lol
Awwwwwww! You said “my husband!!!” Sooo sweet! After 28 years of marriage, I’m still so proud to say that sentiment. Love you and your informative videos! You goooo, honey!!!!
Someone said they do the voice messages to get around the "spam" rules of Facebook and Instagram. They also said its harder to screen shot and post for things like r/anti-MLM (I don't remember who said it but it was a Reddit TH-camr)
I work at a university and that is against policy and procedure. You cannot use your university office or station (including email) to make outside money, and I’m pretty sure this would break some other rules as well depending on the university.
Pretty sure what she's doing is illegal. Professors and university employees are often required to report outside jobs and activities so they don't violate any ethic codes or conflict of interest regulations.
Wow. Imagine “connecting” with your prof and then they approach you to join their “team” and then you have the added pressure of, “Oh shit, if I say no is she going to hold this against me? Will she maybe not give me a reference? What if I have this same prof next year?” Terrible imbalance of power and completely inappropriate. I assume this would be grounds for dismissal?
100% this! It's such an awfully unbalanced relationship where one person can really fuck up your life if they decide to. I would be terrified if I were one of those students.
As a marketing professional, and a person who studied marketing at both undergraduate and graduate level, I'm both horrified and disgusted at this professor. I already hated that MLMs used "network marketing" terminology, because it gives my profession a bad name. Now this? An actual 'expert' endorsing MLM's? Wtf? People like this are the reason my industry doesn't get taken seriously.
I would love for you to cover Herbalife sellers opening up smoothie storefronts without disclosing they are Herbalife. They name their smoothie shops things like Better U Nutrition and people think they are just hitting up the local smoothie shop for nutritional shakes and teas not knowing they are supporting an MLM. Love these video!
I’m a breast cancer survivor. As a woman, when you loose your hair during cancer treatment, particularly breast, you feel as if you have been robbed of your last ounce of your femininity. It is so absolutely *disgusting* that this poor excuse for a woman to prey on other women who are feeling pretty down on themselves to begin with. She also needs to look up “conflict of interest.”
I'm so frustrated I tried a "smoothie" place and it was a freaking Herbalife front. Btw the "shakes" are nasty and powdery. You should definitely do a video on that I didn't know it was even a thing until I saw it later on
There is one on every corner in my old name, a mostly Hispanic working poor place. Now small town mostly white working class poor people can get scammed also...two opened up! While the real health food store making real smoothies struggled along during covid to stay open. SMH
I was 18 when I came across an Herbalife store and got shakes from there often; not knowing anything about it or that it’s an mlm. I’m 29 now and haven’t thought about it since then... just looked it up and read some pretty crazy, scary info about it 😬
Preys on emotionally vunerable women who may not know this is normal. Only truly disgusting people would do this and them saying it "cures" anything may be a legal issue of "practicing medicine without a license".
Amen! Also you can’t grow your hair while you are in chemo therapy. The medicine attacks fast growing cells and your hair won’t grow back until you are done with treatment.
Honestly, I have a business degree, and I knew more about business than most of my professors. So this doesn’t surprise me. 😬 Edited to add: WHY do MLM Huns YELL in their videos? 🥴
@@Anna-lv2ow they either believe what they are told or think it sounds good. On contracts iv seen it states they are not business owners but 1099 independent contractors. The mlm websites tho will say things like own your own business, the fine print(ie actual legal and correct info) says NO!
My mom was almost dragged into an MLM by a “friend” of hers and when she told me about it I showed her one of your videos and she stopped in tracks and was mind blown! You saved her from being turned to the dark sick of MLM
This is worrisome. As someone who recently graduated with my BS, I respected most of my prof's advice. It would have really upset me if a prof that I respected tried to recruit me to an MLM, especially when making me feel special.
i work for my university and can say that she cannot use her university email for any sort of marketing or conversations regarding a side hustle. i can’t speak for university policies in the classroom, but i just took a cybersecurity class for my job. it’s 10000% a liability.
Just wanted to say I've been watching your MLM videos for a while and I appreciate you taking the time to make them and point out exactly what they're doing and why it's a scam, especially since this one is about a college professor. I think this really shows that anyone can be the victim of an MLM or be manipulated into thinking it will work for them.
Something that was I reported on during my college days was professors putting their own works (books, literary papers) on the required textbook lists for their courses…only to realize we never used them in the course. Not an MLM, but goes to show professors CAN prey off of you in many ways and to always ask the right questions
I’m in Facebook groups with people that have the same breed of dog as me. It’s the only reason I get on fb and it has been helpful when asking questions about the breed, hearing others stories and pictures, and I even rescued one of my pups from that fb group. I recently started getting friend requests from people in the group that I thought wanted to be friends since we have common interests. I added them to be nice and they immediately message me asking to join Monat and use the sales pitch that I can use the products on my dogs 🙄🙄🙄 there is no escaping these people.
This is so messed up for so many reasons but imagine how excited a student would be for their professor to reach out and say they have a job opportunity for them (and they probably assumed they were being singled out as someone who has a lot of potential in the industry) and then to find out it’s just an MLM..... Heartbreaking.
I would be HEATED
I agree 100% SO mean!
I would be heartbroken too
The fact that this is a *marketing* professor, the kind of person you expect to know the most about MLM schemes who’s trying to recruit them makes me think they got the position solely to prey on vulnerable students who make easy recruits. It’s despicable
It really is ... Especially a marketing professor. You know how you're acutely aware of things in your field that you otherwise wouldn't have been? Like if you're a nurse you look at hospitals differently, or a waiter looks at their restaurant differently than everyone else ... I'm a marketing major, so even though we all see the red flags, it just jumps out so blatantly that it's unbelievable this dope would not only promote an MLM, but that she'd even be involved with one in the first place.
If I were a marketing professor, and I told my students I was in Monat, any student who agreed to be recruited under me would fail my course.
that professor needs to be canned.
It's like that thing chemistry teachers do sometimes where they're like "K turn the gas on and just let it go." Because it's a trick and they're waiting for someone to be like "Um no that's dangerous."
@@SjofnBM1989 😂
Haha love it
If my business teacher was in Monat I’d drop the class
I work at a 4 year institution, and this is unacceptable. We teach in our business 100 class AGAINST MLM's.
I’m a professor and am flabbergasted by this situation!
Professor here and I also teach against MLMs in my advertising classes.
@@heywhitneyragan excellent!
@@heidigeebee5870 why do you think this happened?
I'd be reporting that prof for ethics violations so fast...
I was just thinking that this should or has to be an ethics violation.
I wonder if she can "get away with it" more because she contacts students once they graduate?
Oh don't worry I emailed the Assistant Dean for Student Affairs and Academic Advising, her major's dean, and the deparment's dean.
@@amandayarger5415 Nice! Love it.
@@amandayarger5415 LOVE YOU FOR THAT. Protecting students and so many others. Thank you for taking action!!!!!!!
These MLM people ALWAYS say that they're "getting a lot of questions in their DM". It's a LIE. NOBODY is in their DM. They do this to make you believe that there's more interest in what they have, to make you curious.
just like car salesmen and realtors lol
Yes, such BS
“In *THE* DM” lmao she was big lying
@@taylorcook8377 DEAD giveaway 😩😂😂😂
As a former Hun bot I can tell you this is straight FACTS! mlms are a freakin cult and will do any and EVERYTHING to draw you in
"I have a lot of lawyers who watch this channel..."
Me: That's really cool. Oh wait, I'm a lawyer who watches this channel...
Can you teach me a law or two 😜
🤣🤣
I would have written back "omg I've always wanted to be a university professor! I didn't realize I had the qualifications since i just graduated! Awesome, let me know how i can go about securing this position through the university!!!! Thanks so much for blessing me with this opportunity!" 😆
👏🏼😆 YESSSS!
Omg brilliant!! LOL
Lol
i mean considering she broke the rules, there probably is a professor position now available
Yeah and throw out something about contacting the university to get the hiring process started 😂
When they say “they wash their hair Anyways” it’s like saying “buy a Lamborghini , you drive a car anyways “ like no , I LIKE MY $4 Garner, leave me alone
Yeah! With Garnier you also know that you will *have* hair to wash!
I buy the drugstore "compare to Garnier" stuff thats like $2 a bottle 😂 and rotate it with off brand head and shoulders too and my hair feels great. My scalp isn't great, but still getting that figured out after 20 years of shampooing my hair daily, so it's still recovering. But my hair is in great shape with my cheap ass shampoo.
💯 👏👏
I use Suave. Less than $5 combined for giant bottles of shampoo and conditioner xD
@@shinyumbreon696 im glad Suave works for you! I used that as a kid because my parents were cheap, but I realized as I got older that it was not good for my hair, but I still don't spend more than like $2-4 per bottle of shampoo/conditioner
GUYS I GOT A REPLY FROM THE SCHOOL!! "Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We are launching a full investigation into these allegations."
what school is it?
@@leahsmith8363 Ohio University
Wow, let us know what happens! So glad you did this!
Good for you! I'm so sorry this happened!
Looks like she has deleted her Instagram and TikTok already, I hope her career doesn't get ruined but we definitely want to see her being accountable!
I am a college fashion professor and when I talk about business models, I specifically bring up MLM's and how predatory they are so my students are aware. I have had a few students look to join and although I can't force them to do anything, I can at least offer my guidance. I see it as my job to care for the whole student, and I don't want to see them scammed. And this professor should be fired for trying the push Monat, especially through the school email system!!!
It’s a cliche, but you really are doing the Lord’s work trying to protect the young people. So many college kids going door to door in my neighborhood trying to sell Adaptiv service right now.
Thank you for educating your students on MLM’s. 🙂👍
You are not paid to care
You are paid to teach
Caring is a freebie
This professor has extensions!! How dare she reference her own hair when saying, "if your hair is not growing as long as you want it".
duuuuuude i was looking at her and thought. bet she has extensions
😂😂
She thinks she's being sneaky
Hahahaha I love when monet girls talk about how healthy and how much their hair has grown yet still wear extensions everyday like no honey let me see your natural hair
Obvious extensions ! The colors are so different. There is nothing wrong with extensions, but don't try to promote your "beautiful hair" as a result of the MLM product that you are trying to sell when its not all yours. Shameful!
The cognitive dissonance she must have being a marketing professor while promoting an MLM 🥴
I mean... sometimes that saying "if you can: do. If you can't: teach" is true I guess?
@@ironwolf56 hahahaha I WAS GONNA SAY THE SAME THING!
@Cianna Duringer I have friends with terminal degrees that are lecturers. There's a lot of pay avoidance in higher education.
@@ironwolf56 dang, as an English lecturer... 🙈
Images don’t sell anything? Graphic Designers will certainly disagree.
Anyone in marketing would disagree. I’m honestly mind blown that a marketing professor would say that and be SO INSISTENT that she’s right.
Lol whaaaaatttt?! When she said that I was so baffled! I have a soap business and I literally sell more when I post pictures of my soaps 🤣
I see something..I want it 👀
Louis Vuitton gives bags to influencers in exchange for posts of them wearing the bag. They flood IG with these pics and the bags sell out via pre-orders before they even hit the market...so yeah, she’s wrong.
As if every single thing that is purchased in our modern age isn’t advertised on social media, billboards etc. via... pictures and imagery? I’m sure any one of her students could easily make a case against this theory. Yikes.
There’s a high probability that anyone who says “believe me” is lying.
Sounds like a recent president. *hmm*
Seven minutes into the video and my husband yells from the other room: How many times is that woman going to say "PSA"? I don't think she really knows what a PSA is.
Right 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haha😅
"I don't think that word means what you think it means"
Give your husband a high five from all of us.
I'm a nail tech. Nobody gives an eff about my story. They want to see images of nails I do. That gets me clients, therefore gets me sales.
She worked in "fashion" but says pictures of your products won't sell them? .....Riiiiiiight. This woman shouldn't be a professor of anything and she needs to be reported. She's abusing her position of authority at the university...
It's just laughable 🙄 If images don't sell products, then why is she using Instagram instead of Twitter for her business?
I’ve personally bought far too many things just from seeing aesthetic photos on instagram haha🤣🥲
By "fashion" she probably means she was a seasonal employee at the gap when she was in high school 😂😂
@@sierrarose8860 same 😂 I really want one of those happy/sad reversible octopuses only because of how many cute ones I've seen on Instagram. I don't need a story to sell it to me, just a cute pic of a cute ass stuffed animal
Almost all of advertising is pictures 😂
That is horrible. A MARKETING professor pushing an MLM, I feel like she devalues her entire profession. She's spewing bs. I wonder how long until the university catches on now? Great video!!
The university absolutely needs to step in!!! Not only is she exploiting the vulnerability and financial precariousness of her students, she’s literally selling overpriced, toxic hair products🙄 if she were selling some kind of marketing course in addition to her class, etc., this MIGHT be a different conversation. What a shame that’s she’s flushing her salary on poorly made hair-care that is (according to the income disclosure statements) not making her any money. Sigh. Poor students.
It IS what marketing is all about. Coercing people into believing they need to buy shit they don’t.
@@TheJungaloo touchè
@@Lazy_eye_blobFishI'm sorry, what? Not trying to be rude I just don't know what the context is to this comment?
And it’s super scary because I put my professors on such a high pedestal, when they recommend something I genuinely look into it because I assume that they only have my best interest at heart. This is so disgusting
Don't want to sound harsh but a bit less of a trusting attitude works better.
They are getting paid to teach you, it's not done out of the goodness of their hearts.
@@snooganslestat2030 you’d think most would have to have some level of passion to educate people if you wanna pursue a career in college education though
Like if I had a passion to teach anyone, I’d wanna teach college students because lower grade levels would be too immature for me to handle 😂😅
That what I’m talking about. When we’re 19 year old students, and we get advice from a prof that we respect and look up to, we break our necks to follow it. This is beYOND disgusting.
you know it’s going to be a good day when Kiki posts an anti-mlm video
I can’t get over the fact that she said “images do not work” IN A VIDEO. ITS A WELL ESTABLISHED FACT THAT PICTURES AND VIDEO DRIVE ENGAGEMENT
My husband sells text marketing and was beside himself when he heard that 😂
To play devil's advocate for no reason whatsoever I think she meant don't post pictures of the product all day every day and nothing else.
@@yeebler yeah, from context that appears to be what she meant and I learned that in marketing classes too. People buy products to solve a problem, so you need to convince them they have a problem and you have a solution.
I mean, Mere Exposure Effect doesnt exist for no reason lol
I was actually taken aback at that comment. Me, as a consumer, saw this. BEAUTIFUL picture of the prince collection by urban decay. I want it. Give them my credit card info and send it to me. They’re social media image worked.
When I was a university student, my older sorority sister tried to recruit me to and MLM. I was so touched by her coming to me, thought she saw something in me and actually tried to set aside money for the starter pack. I was working 3 jobs (research, house cleaning, and a service job) to make ends meet and survive but the thought of what she was promising seemed amazing. I was a first generation college student, had no about money. After finding your channel, it’s insane to me the predatory nature of it all. The fact a university teacher of it all... she needs to be exposed dude
I once had a psychology professor who would talk about her marriage problems to the class then give us “exercises” regarding marriage counseling related issues. The class was Psychology of Personalities... lmao
😯
Too many professors treat the classroom as their own personal soapbox.
someone who studies marketing would know exactly how to manipulate young people. so gross. use your knowledge and experience for good not evil people!!!!
I MISS YOUR ANTI-MLM CONTENT!!! Please bring it back! 😭
In my marketing classes they would have sections teaching us about MLM and ugh not to join
Same with a few of my business classes. My books have sections about pyramid schemes/Ponzi schemes talking about how they are scams and need to be avoided.
Same. We touched on MLMs and pyramid schemes (the same thing... * whistles innocently *) and that was a decade ago.
"oh no, hun, you're missing out on an amazing business opportunity. Let me tell you about this great product which allows me to be my own girl boss" btw, using a term, which describes an underage woman, to refer to oneself... why don't women want to be taken seriously? No man would refer to himself as boy boss
This is an ethics violation! She is accessing her student's private information for personal use to promote and recruit for an MLM. She should be fired.
They all talk the EXACT same way its so scary. The same words, same inflections on those words, etc. its wild
When I was in an MLM we were always told to be the best copycat
You have a FANTASTIC speaking voice! You would be great on the radio/on a podcast!
I 100% agree, so miss Kiki when shall we be expecting a podcast from you hmmmmm lol that would be pretty awesome though!!! 🙏🙏♥️♥️
Or audiobooks! Amazon is hiring for that right now for Audible
If only she had notes on how to make a great podcast
YES YES YES MORE KIKIIIIII
Imagine your MARKETING PROFESSOR selling for a Pyramid Scheme...
I know someone who graduated with a degree in Egyptology. When he graduated, he discovered that all the big Egyptology companies are not hiring, and the only option in his chosen career path is go to graduate school to get a doctorate in Egyptology, which will then qualify him to become a professor in Egyptology: it is literally a pyramid scheme.
@@mikeoconnor10 Nah he would have known that'd be the case with some simple google research lol.
The irony
At least have the decency to write a shitty book, charge $200 for it, and require every student buy it. That's the good old fashioned way to rob students blind.
Imagine having to listen to a marketing professor with this grating of a voice and THEN find out she also pushes an MLM... I'd be contacting the university's hiring department.
Also, these former students should reach out to the university and tell them about this! Who knows how many future students will be saved!
Your HUSBAND?! Omg I knew you were engaged but I didn't know you got married congratulations 😭
I know I heard husband and got the warm fuzzies! Congrats Kiki!
She usually refers to him by his name but you know when you’re recently married you can’t help but say husband every chance you get😍 at least that’s how it was for me😂
Yeah. She did a video talking about it 💛
Yesss congratulations girly!!! 💜💜💜
Yeah I think she talked a few videos ago about how they were planning to elope.
As a college professor, this obviously makes me nuts. My guess is that she's an adjunct, which means there's no job security and makes just about minimum wage. That's not an excuse, and she should know better. She should also know better than to call herself a professor when she's a lecturer. These former students should report her to the administration.
Yeah it's really sad. Everyone gets more vulnerable when they get into a desperate enough situation.
I googled based on the specific handbook sections screenshot in the video here and her title is Assistant Professor of Instruction at this giant university. As someone trained in marketing, I have so much trouble respecting any "expertise" this person would claim to have in the industry.
@@kimmiebraunthal4874 Dang, a for real detective lol! She's been doing this for so long and has probably been reported many times, so I wouldn't doubt if the university takes this seriously.
@@haleymist09 yes but not there is video evidence brought on by a famous TH-camr that anyone can watch any time: parents, students and colleagues. The University is lucky if they don’t have parents banging on their door asking for a refund for her class bc that’s exactly what I would be doing if she did this to my child.
@@medeya560 i hope so!!!
Something about someone in any position of authority/with credentials using their credibility to sell to the people under them is extra disgusting.
Nurses are notorious for this. So many nurses I went to school with sell thrive or plexus.
SAME! So many nurses AND NURSE PRACTITIONERS selling Arbonne 🤢🤮 making the nursing profession look bad! 😑
@@okoala62 So unethical 🤢
As a nurse, that makes me sick. 🤮
Hair dressers/stylists promoting Monat.
@@snooganslestat2030 this!
Every time they say “I’m getting so many DMS”... I just laugh and think no. No you’re not 😂😂😂
This is so unprofessional. I work in Corp America. We get in trouble if we use company property (email, etc) to sell stuff from LEGITIMATE second businesses. She needs to be seriously reprimanded and/or fired even?
My friend who is an accounting professor: has had promising students who participated in MLMs and those students did not get job offers passed on to them since it said something about their logic and reasoning, especially as accounting students.
They lost out on real jobs with good money and benefits for the fantasy of an MLMs lies.
Yes! It shows a lack of critical thinking skills and/or an inability to do or understand pretty basic research.
@@snooganslestat2030 That's such a good point!
@@camillevoyage9727 ty!
I think that’s a bit unfair. These MLM recruiters can be really convincing and persistent. Mature students aside, college leavers are still young and more easily influenced. Especially if they’re manipulated by a professor from their university! I look forward to the day MLMs are abolished and these disgusting companies go away. But people do make mistakes. And these kids shouldn’t be penalised do severely because of a hopefully small lived error in judgment
@@hilarymitchell3456 It is a recommendation. Not everyone gets one. If she is asked who she recommends, them working for MLMs is a big check in the con column. It is simply a natural consequence for falling for an MLM at that point in their lives, fair or not it is simply what happened.
I'm glad you followed up on this professor. The first time you showed us this person I was so shocked! If any of my professors did what this lady did I would report their ass so hard, and tell everyone I can about it. It just doesn't make any sense! She should know better.
@@heywhitneyragan I hope she loses her job as a professor, she's unfit for it and she's harming her students in many ways.
I am not a lawyer, however, I am faculty at a university. This would be such a violation of ethics and fiduciary relationship. I am beyond shocked and grossed out by this behavior!
Shout this from the rooftops: "SHE CONTROLS THEIR FREAKING GRADES!!" Extortion
mom, Amy Schumer is trying to recruit me into her pyramid scheme I'm scared
I'm crying at this comment 😂😂
“My husband” AHHHHH stop that’s so cute. It hits different
“It’s not a scary product!”
Ummmm, I’d say a product causing chemical burns and hair loss leading to several class action lawsuits against the company, to be pretty scary 😬
This seems like someone who has all the information and knows what's going to happen to students who join the mlm, and just *doesn't* care
When she's let go from her job because of her unethical behaviour towards her students I am SURE she's gonna tell her followers that she quit deliberately because she was making soooo much money on monet lmao
Uuugh you're most likely right and I hate that 😅
@@EchoSappho It's frustrating that they try so hard to keep up the lies, but also kinda sad.
Yeah she’ll say she “retired” 🤡
Exactly
@@heywhitneyragan She can’t do damage control after the video is out, the proof is right there. She’s screwed.
what an amazing feeling when you refresh and there’s a new vid 🥰
Real fans got the notification on the Discord server #joinmydownline
I will never understand how someone can prey on the chronically ill, you have to be a horrible person to do that
I only have an MBA so I'm not a professor (🙄) but I have no idea what she means by "images don't sell."
If that was true, huge companies that with millions of dollars budgeted to market research on consumer trends wouldn't pay for print ads and billboards??
The problem with the appeal to authority fallacy is that I would never question her or raise counterpoints if she was my professor. That abuse of power of teachers selling to students needs to be stopped!
Calling it “hustling” just makes me think of people in bars playing pool and scamming people out of money 🤷🏼♀️🙃😬
The ironic part is that I don't think she realizes or has just forgotten the ACTUAL meaning. Even though it's very fitting.
I just wanna say I'm so impressed with how you've managed to maintain the texture of your hair while keeping it so light. Really pretty!
When I was 19 (10 years ago) I had cancer and lost all my hair from chemo. It is absolutely laughable that monat reps think monat would have done anything to prevent it 🤣🤣🤣
They're so stupid 🤦🏼♀ I hope you're doing okay now!! 💛
It’s really sad to see how a grown adult has no self awareness... and student have to pay to be manipulated by a mlm hun professor
she's a sociopath
When she said 4 products for the price of 1, only $70 I almost dropped my coffee 🤣🤣 1 bottle of shampoo is normally $70 ahhhh!!!
Same!!! I will stay with my head and shoulders!!! Hahaha
The most i pay is organic plant based shampoo from the local planet organic store and it's £5.00 for 500ml 🙄🙄 the audacity to ask for £70.00 for something that i would bet money on that it's the same formula as ur cheapest drugstore shampoo is literally insane.
Yeah this happened to me in high school, it was my choir teacher. She spoke up Mary Kay my entire hs career and pounced as soon as my gullible friends and I turned 18, and I ended the year having to drop out of college after my first semester because I got in so much debt. Wish I knew about your videos back then! Thank you for what you do and saving people from my same mistakes. ❤️
Omg, that is really bad. Are they still teaching??
The people not knowing you are married clearly need to catch up on the vlogs!! Keep up people!! 😂
Is it just me or does it look like she has extensions for her bottom layer of hair? It cracks me up how the Monat huns often wear hats or extensions. Nothing wrong with those things, unless you’re trying to shill miracle hair care lol
Aweful extensions, at that
Her saying “images don’t work” while using a social media platform that exclusively uses images for marketing is so laughable
I went to school for marketing, luckily my professor was actually against MLM's
Any qualified university professor would be against MLMs. This woman should not be teaching at all much less a marketing class.
This is kind of petty but I’ve never seen someone’s eyebrows soooo far apart like this professor.
AND SHES SELLING “HAIR GROWTH” PRODUCT 😂😩 like come on man I hate to diss appearances but she was making it hard
I was looking at their eyebrows the whole time! Totally reminds me of the vintage lemon merengue doll.
I can't stop looking now lol
I thought they were really far apart, and the right one was about 2 inches higher than the left 😂
"Appeal to authority"... Kiki, you are spot-on. You nailed it.
Awwwwwww! You said “my husband!!!” Sooo sweet! After 28 years of marriage, I’m still so proud to say that sentiment. Love you and your informative videos! You goooo, honey!!!!
if one of my professors tried to get me to join their MLM i would absolutely report them holy shite
Someone said they do the voice messages to get around the "spam" rules of Facebook and Instagram. They also said its harder to screen shot and post for things like r/anti-MLM (I don't remember who said it but it was a Reddit TH-camr)
If someone can screen shot, they can screen record lol
@@busymom8007 they didn't realize this
Oh I had no idea! Makes a lot of sense
That makes sense. It feels more personal too. And you are likely to listen to the recording fully than read a whole long message.
@@kimandcaffeine5999 I didn’t even think about it being more likely to be listened to!
I work at a university and that is against policy and procedure. You cannot use your university office or station (including email) to make outside money, and I’m pretty sure this would break some other rules as well depending on the university.
I’m so glad I had competent marketing professors who warned us about MLMs and pyramid schemes. This is *ridiculously* bad.
Pretty sure what she's doing is illegal. Professors and university employees are often required to report outside jobs and activities so they don't violate any ethic codes or conflict of interest regulations.
Creep, Cringe, Corn is the new Live, Laugh, Love
This professor needs to be reported to the university. She is potentially breaking actual federal laws. She should know better.
@@heywhitneyragan blessed comment.
@@heywhitneyragan are there news stories about it? I would like to follow the story.
@@heywhitneyragan how do you know this and what is the university
“Images don’t sell anything”
Oh, okay, so that’s why we have photographic ads in magazines, on billboards, on Instagram, Facebook...
🤔 🧐 🤔
Wow. Imagine “connecting” with your prof and then they approach you to join their “team” and then you have the added pressure of, “Oh shit, if I say no is she going to hold this against me? Will she maybe not give me a reference? What if I have this same prof next year?” Terrible imbalance of power and completely inappropriate. I assume this would be grounds for dismissal?
100% this! It's such an awfully unbalanced relationship where one person can really fuck up your life if they decide to. I would be terrified if I were one of those students.
Sounds like one of those moments where "those who can't do, teach" is appropriate and accurate.
'Maybe you're trying to adopt a baby, this can help you.'
TF🧐
Can’t wait to see the update saying this “professor” was fired due to ethics violations.
As a marketing professional, and a person who studied marketing at both undergraduate and graduate level, I'm both horrified and disgusted at this professor. I already hated that MLMs used "network marketing" terminology, because it gives my profession a bad name. Now this? An actual 'expert' endorsing MLM's? Wtf? People like this are the reason my industry doesn't get taken seriously.
I would love for you to cover Herbalife sellers opening up smoothie storefronts without disclosing they are Herbalife. They name their smoothie shops things like Better U Nutrition and people think they are just hitting up the local smoothie shop for nutritional shakes and teas not knowing they are supporting an MLM.
Love these video!
I’m a breast cancer survivor. As a woman, when you loose your hair during cancer treatment, particularly breast, you feel as if you have been robbed of your last ounce of your femininity. It is so absolutely *disgusting* that this poor excuse for a woman to prey on other women who are feeling pretty down on themselves to begin with. She also needs to look up “conflict of interest.”
I would bloody LOVE to see Kiki react to the MLM episode of King Of The hill.... when Peggy gets sucked into a scheme ! Such a good show...
King of the Hill has the absolute best commentary on MLMs as well as cults and their predatory practices
I'm so frustrated I tried a "smoothie" place and it was a freaking Herbalife front. Btw the "shakes" are nasty and powdery. You should definitely do a video on that I didn't know it was even a thing until I saw it later on
There is one on every corner in my old name, a mostly Hispanic working poor place. Now small town mostly white working class poor people can get scammed also...two opened up! While the real health food store making real smoothies struggled along during covid to stay open. SMH
I was 18 when I came across an Herbalife store and got shakes from there often; not knowing anything about it or that it’s an mlm. I’m 29 now and haven’t thought about it since then... just looked it up and read some pretty crazy, scary info about it 😬
The one i accidentally went to had really good drinks sadly. I wont go back cuz mlm but it was pretty good what o ordered
I’m dying her to go a video on this
Every non-chain smoothie place in my town is an herba life front 🙄 so trashy
postpartum hairloss is totally normal and fine, you dont go bald..you dont need special products for that
I get so tired of people trying to sell products for this. It falls out and new hair grows back.
Preys on emotionally vunerable women who may not know this is normal. Only truly disgusting people would do this and them saying it "cures" anything may be a legal issue of "practicing medicine without a license".
Amen! Also you can’t grow your hair while you are in chemo therapy. The medicine attacks fast growing cells and your hair won’t grow back until you are done with treatment.
Love how you do so much deep research. Lots of people don't.
I'm sorry but how the HELL has this professor not been fired?!
Seriously. What a horrible person
Agree. Hope these students/alumnae reported her
Does anyone know her name so we can all report?
I'm sure the students have been reporting her so i doubt thr university takes this seriously 😞
@@heywhitneyragan wow, how did you find that out???
I appreciate that you didn’t blur out her face
Honestly, I have a business degree, and I knew more about business than most of my professors. So this doesn’t surprise me. 😬
Edited to add: WHY do MLM Huns YELL in their videos? 🥴
Also, why do they keep saying they “own their own business”? No they freaking don’t!!!! (I also went to business school) bugs me so much 😆
@@Anna-lv2ow they either believe what they are told or think it sounds good.
On contracts iv seen it states they are not business owners but 1099 independent contractors.
The mlm websites tho will say things like own your own business, the fine print(ie actual legal and correct info) says NO!
Off topic, but what kind of things did you learn getting your business degree?
Honestly, a marketing professor is exactly who I would expect to work for an mlm.
Inappropriate is an understatement imo. She deserves to lose her job at this point.
My mom was almost dragged into an MLM by a “friend” of hers and when she told me about it I showed her one of your videos and she stopped in tracks and was mind blown! You saved her from being turned to the dark sick of MLM
"It grows your hair".....As she runs her fingers through her extensions...hahaha
I don’t know if you have already, but you should talk about those local nutrition places that are just a front for herbalife
Sudden flashbacks to the Simpsons episode where the school was taken over by a toy company that used the kids to get ideas for a new doll
This is worrisome. As someone who recently graduated with my BS, I respected most of my prof's advice. It would have really upset me if a prof that I respected tried to recruit me to an MLM, especially when making me feel special.
Ooohh, did I hear "your husband"? I didn't even know you guys were married 😊
just watched every single one of ur mlm videos im obsessed
i work for my university and can say that she cannot use her university email for any sort of marketing or conversations regarding a side hustle. i can’t speak for university policies in the classroom, but i just took a cybersecurity class for my job. it’s 10000% a liability.
Just wanted to say I've been watching your MLM videos for a while and I appreciate you taking the time to make them and point out exactly what they're doing and why it's a scam, especially since this one is about a college professor. I think this really shows that anyone can be the victim of an MLM or be manipulated into thinking it will work for them.
love the glow up from boyfriend->husband
Something that was I reported on during my college days was professors putting their own works (books, literary papers) on the required textbook lists for their courses…only to realize we never used them in the course. Not an MLM, but goes to show professors CAN prey off of you in many ways and to always ask the right questions
I'm a hairstylist and pictures of my work , do work pretty damn well...
I bet your clients don't end up broke and hairless too 👌🏻
I love how brave you are for calling this person out! We need more ppl like you!
I came here because Robert Welsh recommended you for MLM content, but stayed for the hauls and Amazon videos😅
I’m in Facebook groups with people that have the same breed of dog as me. It’s the only reason I get on fb and it has been helpful when asking questions about the breed, hearing others stories and pictures, and I even rescued one of my pups from that fb group. I recently started getting friend requests from people in the group that I thought wanted to be friends since we have common interests. I added them to be nice and they immediately message me asking to join Monat and use the sales pitch that I can use the products on my dogs 🙄🙄🙄 there is no escaping these people.