Coros in running are kings, very respectable in triathlon and swimming. With a device focused on cycling I expect more upgrades in the software department related with cycling metrics. Very exciting product.
Hi David, Just a point of clarification. MIP screens while similar to the e-ink screens which are used in e-readers is not the same. I think MIP is great in this application, I personally don't think we need cinematic quality on every device. Thanks for the early review, hope to see a long term follow-up.
OK - it has its time and place - but cycling without any metrics should not be underestimated - love riding along without being reminded of time, speed, distance, etc, etc, etc from time to time
Honestly, you shouldn't need to be riding with a screen most of the time. Exceptions are intervals or GPS. It is still nice to record all your rides though, even if you don't look at the screen while your ride. It's nice to have the statistics and stuff over time, at least for me.
There are definitely a lot of updates coming and some aspects need improving, but I've been riding it for several days out of the box and it's delivered everything I needed from a computer with no apparent bugs, crashes and managed to easily download a route and upload to Strava so on the basic features front it has delivered so far. I'll keep testing it over the coming weeks though
Don't think it's fair to compare the 2 channels tbh. While there's undoubtedly some overlap, ultimately they serve different audiences and review in very different ways.
@@davidarthur Fair enough, but when two of the preeminent GPS/tech reviewers on the 'net (GPLama and DC Rainmaker) say it's not fully baked yet I tend to listen. That said: Coros has an excellent track record with updates and bug fixes on their wearables, and hopefully that excellence transcends to their new GPS unit. Having watched your review as well as those from GPLama, DC Rainmaker, and DesFit I see a unit that's good... for a circa 2017-18 unit. Let's hope they can catch up quickly. Certainly the folks at Hammerhead, Wahoo, and Bryton have done well with fast evolution of their GPS computers, and Coros' programmers are hopefully hearing about the issues and furiously working on patches and fixes. Because more competition in the cycling GPS market is a *good* thing for everyone.
@@davidarthur according to both GPLama and DC Rainmaker this unit is nowhere close to being consumer ready. GPS accuracy seems ok and battery life looks good but everything else has major issues. Bad power numbers, no street name information, poor routing information, buggy rerouting, etc., etc. This seems like a lot more than what you are claiming and unfortunately this review makes it seem as if you will just promote any product they put in front of you without being honest about it's flaws. That's a shame.
Wished they’d done an under display solar panel. It looks awkward but the price is great. I would anticipate regular FW updates to add features and iron out bugs. Their track record is good. I assume it has radar support, absolutely vital these days. I would take a more basic screen over a fancy display any time if it means good legibility in all conditions, surely a main criteria when riding. I love Wahoo’s display technology and use a Bryton 420 because of its bonded display.
You mention in the review that there will be a follow up video to let us know how you got on with the GPS over a longer period. Any news on when that might be, as I'm very interested in buying one of these.
Can you do some proper navigation test please. Can you plan a ride on the device itself? What happens when the route is blocked, or you want to cut your ride short? Garmin's are crap at this is my experience and it doesn't seem that many people care, but I do, because I only use the device for navigation. Also what maps are available, how do you get updates, can you see POIs like cafe, pubs, supermarkets etc.
Your phone doesn’t like sun or cold temperatures, doesn’t has buttons… is to large and so on. When you don’t need a bike computer maybe you don’t need a bike. ;)
For me, I am doing a fairly busy weekend on the bike(should be about 680km in total). I would rather not have an OLED screen turned on for a lot of hours, for the turn by turn navigation and other data. Having easy to read, accurate data, and not absolutely killing my phone battery is an absolute game changer, cause if something goes terribly wrong and I have no charge in my phone... I would rather not be stranded in the ass end of nowhere.
Ok, looks interesting. But can someone advise me on some device, with mostly navigation in mind, with long battery life and reasonably precise speed and altitude measuring? I'm not interested in most of the performance stuff, like power, heartbeat and so on - just current and average speeds, and climbing/descending heights. I normally use my smartphone and the Komoot app for navigation, but this eats up the battery very fast. It's fine for shorter rides up to maybe 50-70 km, depending on the day. But for anything longer may not suffice.
I think you should definitely check check the Garmin Edge Explore 2. It has most of the functions of the more expensive 840 and 1040 for less money. The only thing that it lacks are the advanced training features. The battery can last up to 20h of riding and the screen is bigger than most cycling computers. The Etrex is more oriented towards hiking and, although reliable it looks really clunky to me in terms of user interface.
Coros in running are kings, very respectable in triathlon and swimming. With a device focused on cycling I expect more upgrades in the software department related with cycling metrics. Very exciting product.
It's Coros. Not "Corus". They do pretty good sports watches, frequent updates, excellent customer service.
I was gonna say, Corus seems a bit too similar to Chorus for a bicycling product. I thought campy's lawyers were gonna have a field day.
Absolutely agree 👍
At one time, I had one of their watches, and it was pretty decent.
Hi David, Just a point of clarification. MIP screens while similar to the e-ink screens which are used in e-readers is not the same. I think MIP is great in this application, I personally don't think we need cinematic quality on every device. Thanks for the early review, hope to see a long term follow-up.
OK - it has its time and place - but cycling without any metrics should not be underestimated - love riding along without being reminded of time, speed, distance, etc, etc, etc from time to time
Honestly, you shouldn't need to be riding with a screen most of the time.
Exceptions are intervals or GPS.
It is still nice to record all your rides though, even if you don't look at the screen while your ride.
It's nice to have the statistics and stuff over time, at least for me.
Does it show battery life for your shifters and derailleurs?
First 1000 KM driven with it. Some small flaws are left but it works really well already and I love the concept (and the price).
Interesting thanks for sharing
With so many devices that need to be charged everyday, a "charged & forget" cyclo would be a blessing 😂
It is.
GPLama doesn't think it's fully completed yet........
There are definitely a lot of updates coming and some aspects need improving, but I've been riding it for several days out of the box and it's delivered everything I needed from a computer with no apparent bugs, crashes and managed to easily download a route and upload to Strava so on the basic features front it has delivered so far. I'll keep testing it over the coming weeks though
Don't think it's fair to compare the 2 channels tbh. While there's undoubtedly some overlap, ultimately they serve different audiences and review in very different ways.
@@davidarthur Fair enough, but when two of the preeminent GPS/tech reviewers on the 'net (GPLama and DC Rainmaker) say it's not fully baked yet I tend to listen. That said: Coros has an excellent track record with updates and bug fixes on their wearables, and hopefully that excellence transcends to their new GPS unit. Having watched your review as well as those from GPLama, DC Rainmaker, and DesFit I see a unit that's good... for a circa 2017-18 unit. Let's hope they can catch up quickly. Certainly the folks at Hammerhead, Wahoo, and Bryton have done well with fast evolution of their GPS computers, and Coros' programmers are hopefully hearing about the issues and furiously working on patches and fixes. Because more competition in the cycling GPS market is a *good* thing for everyone.
@@davidarthur according to both GPLama and DC Rainmaker this unit is nowhere close to being consumer ready. GPS accuracy seems ok and battery life looks good but everything else has major issues. Bad power numbers, no street name information, poor routing information, buggy rerouting, etc., etc. This seems like a lot more than what you are claiming and unfortunately this review makes it seem as if you will just promote any product they put in front of you without being honest about it's flaws. That's a shame.
I have a corps watch and was expecting this to be much more expensive, but it seems like a great product if they iron out the bugs.
Wished they’d done an under display solar panel. It looks awkward but the price is great. I would anticipate regular FW updates to add features and iron out bugs. Their track record is good. I assume it has radar support, absolutely vital these days. I would take a more basic screen over a fancy display any time if it means good legibility in all conditions, surely a main criteria when riding. I love Wahoo’s display technology and use a Bryton 420 because of its bonded display.
You mention in the review that there will be a follow up video to let us know how you got on with the GPS over a longer period. Any news on when that might be, as I'm very interested in buying one of these.
Can you do some proper navigation test please. Can you plan a ride on the device itself? What happens when the route is blocked, or you want to cut your ride short? Garmin's are crap at this is my experience and it doesn't seem that many people care, but I do, because I only use the device for navigation. Also what maps are available, how do you get updates, can you see POIs like cafe, pubs, supermarkets etc.
I like this computer style looks a bit retro. Solar charging is very sweet for the price
Good for a multi day gravel / bike packing trip but maybe not so much for a typical roadie
I simply don't understand GPS bike computers
Why should I pay a decent smartphones price for a piece of outdated tech from 2010s'??
Your phone doesn’t like sun or cold temperatures, doesn’t has buttons… is to large and so on.
When you don’t need a bike computer maybe you don’t need a bike. ;)
For me, I am doing a fairly busy weekend on the bike(should be about 680km in total). I would rather not have an OLED screen turned on for a lot of hours, for the turn by turn navigation and other data. Having easy to read, accurate data, and not absolutely killing my phone battery is an absolute game changer, cause if something goes terribly wrong and I have no charge in my phone... I would rather not be stranded in the ass end of nowhere.
You won't understand till you have one. It's a gamechanger to your cycling experience.
No one stopping you from using cheap smartphone as bike computer. Good luck with the heat though
Watch type scroll for when it's raining?
Did you use it with the Garmin Varia?
I like the coros app. It would be great to bring it all together
The scroll wheel will be good with gloves
they have or haven't paid for the review? Wasn't clear
They have not paid for this video :)
I like the watch-style operation very much, it’s very convenient！Gramin is too expensive！！！
They won't blimmin deliver to Australia.
Ok, looks interesting. But can someone advise me on some device, with mostly navigation in mind, with long battery life and reasonably precise speed and altitude measuring? I'm not interested in most of the performance stuff, like power, heartbeat and so on - just current and average speeds, and climbing/descending heights. I normally use my smartphone and the Komoot app for navigation, but this eats up the battery very fast. It's fine for shorter rides up to maybe 50-70 km, depending on the day. But for anything longer may not suffice.
Sounds like you might want to look into a model in the Garmin Etrex range, there are some useful blogs online about using it for bikepacking.
I think you should definitely check check the Garmin Edge Explore 2. It has most of the functions of the more expensive 840 and 1040 for less money. The only thing that it lacks are the advanced training features. The battery can last up to 20h of riding and the screen is bigger than most cycling computers. The Etrex is more oriented towards hiking and, although reliable it looks really clunky to me in terms of user interface.
@@paulmeghea9500, thank you and @davidbell1250 for advice. I definitely check on these models.
its coros
Nowhere near!
Another paid advertisement with out being declared as a paid ad
About time you started calling out these reviews as paid ads
This isn’t a paid advertisement - my reviews aren’t paid for
who wants such an ugly unit on his bike ? 😆
I agree. I haven't seen such a hideous electronic device in a long time.
Depends if you want a handlebar decoration for short rides, or a device with good enough battery life to see you through a long event. 😂
I don't mind it
I'm coming from a Garmin Etrex 32x, I can't downgrade aesthetically speaking