I think that everyone really overlooks this line from Todney: “I love my family, and they like me!” He’s so defensive of his family, yet even in the heat of the moment, he can’t say that his family loves him back, but rather they just “like” him.
It’s also implied that the other members were also kidnapped and successfully integrated into the family, so Todney knows he’s not loved. He loves them in an extremely fucked up way but they don’t love him because the twins are essentially prison guards
It's even shown later that Todney and Lilly were probably mentally/emotionally @bus3d. In the scene where they were watching home movies the brother looks at them in a strange way growling and their reactions to him says everything. I honestly feel sorry for them. They've basically been brainwashed or @bus3d to the point of submission and fear.
Hahaha reminds me of the denial I was in as a kid who's stepmother took over and turned everyone against me... this whole show is so much better than psychiatry.
I JUST realized that the trio represents an outlook on life, Red is a pessimist, yellow is an optimist and duck is a realist, and this affects each episode
@@margotl2418 Doesn't mean you're wrong. Children tend to be optimists, young adults tend to be pessimists, and the older people tend to be more realistic. It still ties in with the theme they're talking about.
This episode feels a lot like going over a friend's house as a kid, and finding out why he comes over your house all the time because his family is incredibly dysfunctional and abusive
Something I wanna mention about that scene where Red is with his "family." It's interesting to note that, while he's excited for him to be there... the other members don't seem to be. What with the lines of "He's ruining it. We'll just have to leave him out of the shot." Only for Red to basically PLEAD for him to stay. "I'm just happy." It reminds me a bit of web series. Where he doesn't quite fit in with others like him. He wants to fit in with others... he wants to belong... but he doesn't.
The one that trying to take the picture is the only one being aggressive towards him while the family don't seem to mind his present or him being happy maybe the rest are just trying the get family photo over with and hang out with him some more
Something interesting I’ve noticed is that it seems like Duck is the only one really *living* in the house. I mean, the other ones live in the house too obviously, but they mostly just sit around waiting for things to happen. In the meantime, Duck reads the newspaper, rummages around the cabinets like in this episode, does his list thing from the transport episode and does a crossword puzzle. Idk what exactly this means but it definitely seems like Duck is the only one really doing things out of his own will instead of just waiting for another teacher to appear
And duck seems to be the only one content in staying as red guy shows multiple times that he wants to leave and yellow guy wanting to leave when he gains his batteries
I think duck came with the house, like he's part of the structure of the show. The house was made for YG to live and grow in and RG was taken from an outside world but duck is actually an important piece of the house. My evidence is the dream episode when the dead duck was conjured back by the control centre. I also think it's why he can't die, he's a character on a kids show.
Red and Duck are interesting because... it's not like they're each the Only Sane Man, it's more that they have a better grasp of some things that the other doesn't. Duck is aware of the absurdity of some of the lessons, but but willing to go with the absurdity of their world.... while Red Guy is more likely to go along with the lessons, but he has less patience for the absurdity of their world.
I really love the thought that they all, on some level see the cracks of the house and see how much their lives are fucked but since Lesley keeps changing them out or directs them back to "normal" they can't exactly figure it out and they can't put the pieces together quite right, like the pieces match but how. It's also interesting to note that all of them are smart in their own way but sometimes it's overshadowed by the weirdness and the wildness which I guess says a lot more...
Their inconsistent self-awareness has been bothering me, but you categorized it well! Though I'm not sure if it applies the whole time, such as in the Work episode, when Red Guy really wants to do his scheduled nothing while Duck is eager to get started with the work, before he ends up becoming a factory worker instead of a cryptocurrency billionaire.
@@Scypekever since duck knocked over the 'emotion family' stand in the work episode, he's been my favourite. They red and duck have different types of understanding, like real people ...I wouldn't call it inconsistent.
Something I found interesting is how the twins cause this sort of fake positivity. You have to like them, you have to forgive them and you can't call them out for being wrong or corrupt or you'll be made to leave. I feel like this is a dig at toxic family relationships, a lot of people are made to put up with family members that treat them like garbage solely because "they're family."
Oh definitely. I mean they force Yellow into a role he doesn’t want just so they qualify for a family meal. You could definitely read that as being forced to conform to a certain image so you fit this arbitrary standard.
Honestly, I’ve found that families that promote the idea of “family first” thinking above everything else are often the ones who abuse familial relationships the most. If a family is a loving one, they shouldn’t need to constantly reinforce how loving and familial they are; it will always be apparent. Abusive parents are usually the ones who use the title of “family” to shirk accountability. There are so many times where people in a family have done something terrible but justify themselves by saying “I’m your mother/father/older sibling/ grandparent, and I have the right to do this”. So many victims of abuse fear leaving because it upsets the family dynamic and because they fear shirking their “duty” as a child/spouse/grandchild. And abusive families are always the ones to enforce that family comes before friends, spouses, and everyone else, often as a way to isolate their victims. Family members are just as infallible as any other person, but they thrive off of skipping over that detail.
@@gregjayonnaise8314 Couldn’t have put it better myself. And it does unsettle me that it is a common excuse when it comes to badly executed character redemptions in modern storytelling. That you must forgive and take in this person who has done nothing to atone for their actions towards those who are both in and outside their family circles based on the grounds that they have a familial connection.
Another reason I think the twins chose yellow to be part of their "family" was that he looks the most similar to them out of the trio. He is the same size as mother in the family picture, and he is a more rounded and cartoonish looking human puppet similar to the twins and the father. He even has a letter "D" on his overalls, like Lilly and Todney's "L" and "T".
Todney saying "i *love* my family and they *like* me" is honestly so heartbreaking because it's just another of many references to how dysfunctional the twins' home life is
It's weird to me that, while the trio was trying to come up with a title to describe their relationship, they never suggested "roommates". It's like they would consider the term with a level of consent, like roommates are meant to have the option to live together, but they likely didn't.
@@Larsen_illustrations The irony is they're living out their entire lives on educational television! (Though, given DHMIS's commentary on children's edutainment in the past, those two probably aren't meant to be mutually exclusive.)
This was the first time Roy felt, like, straight up intimidating. He walks in with a calm demeanor, he does his job to make Yellow leave, then he goes apeshit. He knows how to control himself, much like he knows how to control a whole-ass show. He's clearly a bit goofy on the outside, but there's so many intricate parts to Roy's character that make you feel uneasy around him. He's exactly how an abusive dad should be viewed. Even if he isn't physically abusive, his behavior and actions just make him seem unstable and like you're never safe around him. Like he could explode at any second, and that adds an extra layer onto the episode's commentary.
I think that Lilly and Todney are the only "real" ones in the family. They're probably connected to the Family Tree in a much more intimate manner than shown. Something I noticed, especially, was that all of the crossed-out family member pictures looked like an existing family member in some way. There were Big look-alikes, there were Small look-alikes, I think I saw some Mother and some Grandmother look-alikes in there too. I think a picture being X'ed out means that the person kidnapped to play that role in the Family Tree+Twins's little stage play died and needed to be replaced. Their pictures are still there and crossed out because as one of the rules of being a family states, A Family Should Keep Records.
Damn that’s impressive, when watching this episode over and over I couldn’t figure out the connection between the x’s and why they were showing all the relatives and explaining how they all died, and it seems like nothing in this show is an accident, so I think you’re probably right (plus the mourners in episode 2 look like the other family members so it could be that people in this universe just kinda look like that)
@@waterwaveybaby It didn't really click for me either until I realized just how uncanny a resemblance the Small-looking guy at 23:28 had to the current Small. That had me stopping clips of the scene to look more closely at the others. This is definitely not the first time Lilly and Todney have kidnapped and gaslit people into being new members of their family. In fact, it really just reinforces their cultish reverence for the concept of family itself: they're homunculae created by the Family Tree solely for the purpose of finding and maintaining a specific family image. I imagine that Big being implied so heavily as someone abusive is just a natural by-product of his forced induction into the family. What I can't figure out any real evidence for is why the Family Tree wants this family to be maintained so badly - the big with it sucking out Red's blood suggests that it might actually feed on people in some way, and it could be the direct reason for a lot of the previous family members' deaths, but I don't think I can really support that with the show itself.
@@doomyboi if Lilly and Todney are both creatures created by the tree to lure in others for the tree to feed on, their internal/biological programming could be the extreme focus on what a family is and how it should be, so they'll always "head out of the hive" to bring in more "food" for the tree.
The twins also seem to regard family as something... Material. A family MUST have landlines, MUST eat Grolton's chicken and when they talk about their uncle, they mentioned he died but it doesn't matter because they got his filing cabinet. Just how media often shows that families must have things to be called a proper family
Something I’d like to mention is when Yellow goes to make the call he actually makes two, begging for help before dialing again and ordering the chicken
@@ShippyThe_PTalso I believe the family of twins was an external force from the series, with Roy having to intervene to make sure Yellow returns to the classic house.
Something interesting about the part Red meets his family that I didn’t see mentioned is that his family is pretty outwardly hostile to him for not fitting in with the other members of the family. There’s probably something to read into there.
Well, he did find them off a DNA matching site. So the only thing he has in common with them is genetics. So might be that what makes a person isn’t our genes but the lives we have lived.
Could definitely be an allegory for someone who doesn't fit in for whatever reason. For not filling a certain role or being "different" to all the other siblings/cousins/members.
@@Starburst514 well, he was the only unclothed one so there’s that. They’re already posed for a family photo and all he can do is jump around in the background. Their family image and structure is complete without him and unyielding.
Red also had the same problem when he left the show in the web serie. Found a desk job alongside his serious fellow red guys, felt out of place, then went back to save his friends from Roy.
I also like during the call scene that Yellow Guy hammers in the absurdity of the small one being the dad by saying "Father?? THAT one's the dad???" in the most real tone I've heard him speak in the episode.
I ran it through a word scrambler myself to fact check this, and another word that came up is "ductal". When I look that word up, the first few links that come up are about ductal carcinoma. Perhaps Lily and Todney's mother died of breast cancer? IDK XD
This captured the experience of seeing my relatives more than anything ever. The creepy children, the furniture that looks icky to touch, the minefield of unpredictable taboos, all wrapped together under a sinisterly vague respect of the idea of family.
Do you think the creators purposely made the seen when lily hits ducks head as a little reference to duck duck goose. It can also correlate with the whole child act thing considering it’s mostly played by children
I'm beginning to wonder if the Duck and Red who return to the kitchen are new ones put there by Leslie. I feel like Yellow is the only one she can't do that with.
He got smacked in the head w a glass bottle in ep4 and was just fine in ep5. Also ep5's ending (if we follow the headcanon the copies of the trio that escaped r still out there).
I think the twin aren’t not supposed to be there . The fact they kill the Apple teacher. Also the fact Roy come in and killing the family . You can tell that roy care about putting things in order and also this is the time Roy intervened choose to kill them probably knowing full while the family not supposed to be there.
Roy is like the Showrunner So when These Cultists change the flow and direction of the episode killing the teacher and misleading the Characters Yeah he's gonna be pretty pissed
@@TooTired_ToType Although it is a fun thought, there's one thing not mentioned in these replies... Leslie. She's the one who's foreshadowed in the 5th episode, with her name being on the vehicles Mr.Choo Choo turns into, moves the car back from the end if the episode, leading onto the last, and has a whole drawer of backups for the trio.
I love the interpretations of why Roy is there. Others have said it's to insert dominance to show how he's always right when things go wrong, he cares about the yellow guy but in a harsh way, and the show sponsored something other than Roy's products hence why he's angry
What's sad to me for some reason is that you can low-key see the hurt in Duck's face when Red says "I knew I wasn't supposed to be living with these *things"*
You know, thinking about how the dad appears more child like, it makes me think about how this also shows that romanticism of because it's a traditional household, the mother takes care of everything while the father gets to just sit around, basically do nothing, and is just another child that just works. Because, how I see it, when certain men talk about how they want a traditional household where the wife is at his beck and call and she's basically doing all the work around the house, I sometimes see that as "so you want another mother but you can marry this one? Someone to care for you and spoil you? And make you feel like something? Something a mother does more often..." idk if that's just me, but that's how I see it when it's brought up more often than not. Also since the brother looks older, almost looking like he's in 60s and more in work clothes, that could sign that the brother had to step up and be the man of the house when his father decided to be in his own world. The brother had to grow up too fast but he still has no idea what's happening or how to fix it.
Not to get too personal, but I can vouch for this to some extent. While my dad has been getting better, he severely underestimated the amount of work and energy my mother put into taking care of and keeping our family together before her passing, and he spent quite a few years being rather distant (emotionally) and ignorant to us unless we were validating and being yesmen to his political views, sometimes not even contributing financially (the bare minimum expected of a traditional man), so often that I frequently thought of my older brother as the substitute father of the household (especially when he started making money when my dad didn't). And just like you've described, my older brother having to fill this role has affected him in negative ways, and while he says and believes in a lot of things that make me uncomfortable, I still feel bad for him because he spent his later teenage and early young adulthood having to parent his own siblings. I'd often tell my mother that he should be out partying, getting drunk when he shouldn't, or, considering he's an introvert, getting on discord calls doing things he'll cringe at in 5 years. But instead, he's raising his own siblings, a role he didn't ask for but was thrust upon him because the situation was complicated. Again, now that my father has been forced into a life without my mother, he is getting better at parenting, but those few years where he simply wasn't trying had quite the effect on my household, effects that still haven't been fully cured, especially mentally. Many people are unfortunately ignorant to just how easy it is to damage a family dynamic, the smallest behavior can have nasty effects, especially on the children, and can take years to correct, if they're able to be corrected at all. I like your interpretation on the little brother/father twist going on here, it's the most relatable for me. I hope your comment gains more traction. (Sorry if that was a bit too vent-y for anyone reading this)
Everyone keeps overlooking what Todney says "I love my family and they like me" Love is given and not really expected. As long your provided with resources and tolerated is enough to love your family members. And reasoning that Roy attacks/eats the family because it's not his brand but a different brand Grolton.
Honestly, I interpreted it mostly as another branch of toxic positivity in a dysfunctional family. Todney is aware his family doesn't love him. Only tolerate him (and his sister), because he's family. He loves them because he's a child and hence desperate to cling to ANY close connection. Hence his line could be a Freudian slip. "I love my family and they like me". He doesn't outright say it, but as a child self, he's too honest/blunt to hide it. Rather obscuring it in a throwaway line.
I don't really think Roy and Grolton are competitors. Roy doesn't go into chicken, he sells breakfast cereal (such as Roy's Oatmeal and Roy's Flakes, as seen in the TH-cam series). I just think Roy was obligated to both maintain the status quo (which is obviously very important in the DHMIS Channel 4 series) and look after his son.
I think part of why the twins are so creepy is also because theyre... the only actual human shaped puppets in the show. comparing these two humanlike but not human puppets to the brightly colored trio is so uncanny and uncomfortable. immediately you can tell something is wrong there
No,you’re all wrong! You all need your blood shared and be parents,children,and siblings to each other! And have love for each other glue them together forever and ever and ever and ever!
@@emmagottlieb9379 I agree with this guy, only conjoined twins count as family because theyre glued together AND they share the same lawyer! Love and blood and other stuff too IG but the glue and the lawyer are the most important
The way that the family house is so much darker than the regular house makes me wonder if it’s sort of outside of what Lesley is doing. So the moment that Duck and Red guy get disconnected from the family illusion, she takes the opportunity to bring them back like from the dump. But the twins successfully lure Yellow guy into their web, and she can’t bring him back as easily. Thus Roy has to physically bring him back. The family is so predatory, this episode is a masterpiece of terror.
This really reminds me of a dysfunctional family. The reason Todney and Lilly’s life all end up back to the fact of family. The board game, never mention friends, the dark lighting. All they know is family. They can’t talk to anyone because they’re trapped with family. It’s just a never ending cycle. All they have is each other and dysfunctional family. It’s really sad. Edit: Also Lily seems like it a habit to say thank you. Manners were hammered into them. So she HAS to say thank you. Also the little “brother” is shown to have a tablet. Like representing how parents just shove a tablet in their kids face and let the internet raise them. Though this is just a thought. Edit: thank you to everyone telling me that the little brother is actually the dad. Please dont think I’m being rude, but that’s why I put it in parentheses. Sorry again if this comes off as rude.
Honestly, I’ve found that families that promote the idea of “family first” thinking above everything else are often the ones who abuse familial relationships the most. If a family is a loving one, they don’t need to constantly reinforce how loving and familial they are. Abusive parents are usually the ones who use the title of “family” to shirk accountability. There are so many times where people in a family have done something terrible but justify themselves by saying “I’m your mother/father/older sibling/ grandparent, and I have the right to do this”. So many victims of abuse fear leaving because it upsets the family dynamic and because they fear shirking their “duty” as a child/spouse/grandchild. And abusive families are always the ones to enforce that family comes before friends, spouses, and everyone else, often as a way to isolate their victims. Family members are just as infallible as any other person, but they thrive off of skipping over that detail.
I personally believe roy was there to "rescue" yellow. Mainly because the twins intercepted the course the episode was SUPPOSED to take. Roy went in to take care of the situation. Or was sent in by a higher power.
Lily and Todney are supposed to have 'adult mimicking child voices' bc indeed it is really creepy haha. Probably because lots of children's shows (i know the British ones anyway) did the same thing unironically back in the 2000's. One example is The Tweenies- I think Todney here is even the same voice actor who voiced Milo from the Tweenies
I sadly don't remember who it was but I remember hearing or reading someone saying that the twins looked so uncanny was because they "looked like they resulted from twins" and this one joke has tremendously affected how serious I take the episode and it's great since I'm a bit of a scaredy cat and so I don't get as frightened
@@ItsLagoona The joke was about the twins looking like they were the result of an incestuous relationship between their parents Btw, I love ur username!! Is it based on the mh character?
They're just a parody of the kind of puppets that used to be used in UK kids tv shows in the 70s and 80s, like fireman sam and postman pat; those puppets were equally uncanny and offputting.
Not just that, but visiting a friend's house as a kid, and finally putting the pieces together as to why they don't like touch, or why they have anger issues. Basically realizing that they've gone through trauma and that their family is most likely the cause of that.
Most episodes, one person sees something not right (example: transport, red breaks down during it and wants to leave) During family and jobs: duck sees stuff wrong and is confused. And during electricity, its yellow guy, he might be less confused and stuff but still finds things different. Its a cool detail i found that i see as interesting
I was thinking about how we assume that the larger more grown looking one in the family to be the father is interesting due to how he’s actually revealed to be an older brother, and how the father is portrayed as an incompetent child compared to him. It could mean the child like father is extremely neglectful and carelessly leaving the brother to be the only one old enough to care for the family, which is why he’s portrayed as an adult despite being significantly younger than the actual dad
I really like the detail that when they were measuring yellow they were REALLY measuring him. While Yellow was on the wall, Todney was on the floor getting his shoe size. Seeming to get his right measurement so Yellow could fill the role of their mother more perfectly
Hearing this observation, I kind of feel bad for the twins, they lost their mom and were stuck being raised by a childish traditional father, a distant brother and a dying grandmother, in the end, they end up getting murdered, hopefully they reunite with their "caring and kind" mother soon in heaven. If they end up there.
Everyone has different outlooks on this show, especially the trio, and I'll share mine. This has probably been explained by someone else, but the trio feels like the three stages of life, yellow is childhood, he's the most impressionable and he lacks any sort of knowledge that the other two have. Red is adulthood, he sees the world through a plain bland sort of lense, he strives for something but doesn't really know what that something is. And finally Duck is supposed to be the elderly, who usually like to keep to themselves and don't really give an effort to care for other people's interests, he's also the only one that dies in that one episode, while red wants to die and yellow doesn't really understand death so he just digs him back up from the grave, but that's only one example.
something that someone pointed out that i found really interesting is how the fact that the twins set Yellow as the "mother" can imply that he's interpreted as and _is_ an adult, even though he seems to act and behave like a little kid. so his "other self" in the final episode makes a lot more sense, given he's a fully-developed adult capable of that level of thought, if that makes sense. regardless i enjoyed watching this video while eating lasagna and i can't wait for more.
Considering we know that Yellow is or represents someone who was hit by a car it's possible that he was mentally debilitated or put into a state of arrested development as a result of brain damage
i have a weird theory, but where the hell did the twins come from and where the hell is their house? The episode about transport has them leave the house for the first time and in multiple occasions we see Lesley accessing the puppet form of the house. Given that there is a floor plan with a few more rooms on the ground floor there is missing space on the second floor. I think that lilly and todney live in the part of the second floor that we don't see. When you look at the intro you can see different curtains when the house is spinning at the very beginning and the curtains from twins' house is on the second floor and you can see their wallpaper when yellow guy accidentally breaks the duck figurine in the 6th episode. Additionally, duck drops through the floor in this episode to end up in the original house, and roy shows up out of nowhere. Makes sense for Roy to know whats happening in this episode as he spies through the walls.
Someone had a theory that they were apart of another kid’s show, that one focused on a family and their lives, maybe it’s in the time slot before the trio’s show so it’s “above” them
I feel like it should be pointed out that another aspect carried over from the web series is that Red is *still* shown as being an outlier even among his own species. Yes, he's the group pessimist, but when compared to an outside perspective he's still more full of life and creativity than is expected of him by the "real world".
I've noticed that Duck seems to have taken Reds place as the sensible one in the group. In the original DHMIC, it was always Red who would point out the ridiculousness of the situation and seemed reluctant to go along with it. Now he seems much more willing, and it's duck that's weary of everything.
I want to praise the show for the voice direction of the twins. The way they sound is exactly like characters from old British childrens' TV shows, which would often be stop motion, and featured very few, or even only one voice actor (usually an older man.) There'd be an attempt at different voices, but they'd always sound... Well, like the twins. You'd get used to it and it'd sound normal to you because when everyone sounds the same, you focus more on the small differences instead of "hang on, why does this little girl sound like a 40 year old bloke?" But when there are other voice actors, stuff like that sticks out a lot more and adds to the creep factor, which I'm sure is what the show is going for! Bonus points for the twins looking similar in style to some of the puppets used.
I wonder if, potentially, other members of Lilly and Todney’s family have also been replaced the way the tried to replace their mother, and that’s why their father is so small. Edit: this would also explain why the rest of their family looks nothing like them
As a child who lives in a dysfunctional family, I can't watch this episode. It hits me hard. It shows the truama and abuse a family can put a young member through, maybe without even knowing it. It shows how another family member could be trying to retreat from the dysfunctional family to find a better, while not biological, and more loving family. I definitely have friends who have, while jokingly, started to become a family. I'm a member of the LGBTQ+ and my family isn't really supporting of that. I have friends in similar situations so we've kinda just made our own family. Much like how Red Guy tries to find his family, only to be the odd one out. Near the end, he returns back to Duck and Yellow Guy because, even if they're not biological family, they still seem connected to each other.
Having the Father being just slightly bigger than Red Guy really made me nervous. Because now the gang isn't just outnumbered but also perhaps out strength.
the true form of fear this episode brings out of me is the feeling of going over to your friend's house for the first time as a kid and meeting their parents and their family and the way they live EVERY DAY in ways you don't -- and there's a bunch of customs you aren't familiar with, and offending them -- and being REALLY uncomfortable with the fear they present around their dad... it's a very relatable sort of fear. especially in that once it's over you go back to your life, and they go back to theirs. these kids have to keep living like this while the gang sticks to theirs.
I think making the young boyish looking puppet be the father makes sense. The mother clearly did everything and the father is a man child who plays on his tablet neglecting the children who in turn have either clung to this idea of a famjly or like the younger brother have grown up beyond their actual age because they have to due to survival.
It's Weird to think that just after 3 The scariest episode Comes 4 the least scary episode the only horror coming about at the end with just a quick bit sort of like the Web series Can't wait to see His breakdown of that Edit: Actually 5 is the Least scary Having no Horror at all Basically
I don't know it feels more like a fun Road trip, Especially with the Song the trio sing Being the happiest song with no weird imagery Gore or stuff like that. to me the whole you can't escape thing It's barely in there being more and fast little bits
@@dawnofthed4y the fact that they have everything trying to make them go back, the sat nav, the car itself, the lack of info on the tapes, the fact that the world just loops round and round, and then Lesley at the end
24:04, Aside from that...both are related to characters who can handle blood. The coffin's introduction came from a pool of blood while the tree uses a DNA sample from Red Guy's blood.
I recall reading something where Red was originally going to be the mother instead of Yellow. I'm curious to see how differently that would have played out
Thinking about it,the twins probably kidnapped/gaslit several other people just for food,this could explain the obvious signs of neglect as there isn’t really anyone who looks after the twins.This could also be explained by the fact that almost all the photos in the family tree are crossed out..they are probably just hungry,abused children.This could also be seen as when Todney speaks during the family movie,big tells them to be quiet and they seem absolutely terrified…
there's no such thing as a meal only for families. there are meals that get discounts for families though. they do all of this just to save a little bit of money and have food that night. after the mom is gone.
So to recap, the Weird Family had: -twins who could either teleport or run insanely fast -the ability to forcefully teleport other people away by agreeing they should leave -hidden true mouths of sharp teeth hidden behind their fake mouths -concealed traits of adult humans hidden by fake bodies -a giant older brother even the twins were afraid of -probably weren't teachers, meaning they couldn't be messed with using the simulation controls And they STILL couldn't last 2 seconds against roy.
Just something I noticed, a lot of the things revolving around 'family values' are based in capitalistic roots. Like sharing a lawyer or a landline, or for 'family' being mandatory to purchase and consume certain products.
I feel like the twins take control of the episode itself and the trio (at the beginning) because they seem like they have little or no control in their own home, the control and the "a family MUST" are ways of coping unintentionally because this was hammered into them, it's all they know, this is the only thing they can control. They have no power, and they know the trio doesn't either, so as a way of power, they take control of the trio and show them what *they* know to be a family, *not* what a family is.
Man, thank you so much for the details regarding camera work, montage and all that! I learn the theory in college, and your videos really help to understand what shots do what and how all that is used in the media i like
No worries! I studied film in college too, and yea that's why I love this show so much, even though it's got the mystery and amazing theories, it's still a technically great made show (all the lighting, camerawork, sound design). You can really tell that they spent years just ironing out these six incredible episodes
I just realized, it’s kind of interesting that their names start with T and L. Yknow, like Truth and Lies? Could be coincidental, but with this series, I’m not 100% sure what’s coincidence…
If all the friendlier looking puppets turn out to have ulterior motives, imagine one who's very clearly meant to look intimidating being laid back and almost brutally honest.
I love how you describe why exactly something feels a specific way in this video! for example why it makes us uncomfortable when the twins were out of focus, super interesting and it makes this video feel much more "relatable" in a sense !!! and definitely much more interesting to watch since it´s unique (to me at least oops) :D
The twins are almost like baby lions or hippos or something. They're learning to be like their scary adult parents. They may not hurt you now, but once they get older...
I remember I was watching a TH-cam version of the TV show and just cut to black after Lily puts the human hand over his shoulder and it genuinely took me a second torealise it was because the video was claimed
the first ones were more on the line of a dark comedy as in less about being scary than placing absurd but relatable situations but this one was truly terrifying
I just realized that the two antagonists so far (the twins and warren) are living creatures meanwhile all the teachers are objects thought that would be interesting to point out
I think this episode also covers cults. Cults also tend to see each other as families. Also, I can't help but notice that the dress they made Yellow wear reminds me of the dresses in Midsommar, a horror movie about a pagan death cult.
if you look closely, the older brother didn't transform into a monster which makes me feel like he is the one who is truly broken, being made to do his sibling's bidding. they are the golden children since they are the ones who are actually monsters, his hair he pulled out from stressed or from his crazy siblings.
Lilly and Todney: looks like they need our help Me, watching this episode clearly not expecting the creepiness to be instant: *you keep your help far the fuck away from me*
You know what? Considering that you mentioned how Red never wants to do anything because he is somewhat aware of being in a strange sort of limbo prison situation, it weirdly reminded me of Sans. I was studying different Sanses, mostly for fun and to find out new things I didn't previously know, and something that stuck out to me was how he's described. "fatalism + apathy = laziness". The reason Sans has fatalism is because of his knowledge of the timelines, saves, resets, etc., which sounds very similar to Red Guy in this situation. Red Guy seems very apathetic most of the time, and appears lazy because he doesnt like to do anything, which could very much be the product of him possibly having fatalism thanks to knowing he's stuck in some sort of prison. And I think that's quite interesting.
I love the twins. They’re so cute and creepy. I love their wandering eyes and derpy, thoughtless expressions. They remind me of those backwoods families that are… too close, if you know what I mean. Their family tree doesn’t have many branches lol. They’re usually close knit and quite unhealthy, only keeping within their family circle… Maybe their mother was eaten by them or sacrificed by the family? Or maybe she escaped?
Amazing analysis! Would you ever go back and try your hand at the original? You have such attention to detail and focus! My god, man, have a sub and know I’m recommending your channel to everyone I know who loves these deceitful puppets!🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you so much it means a lot :) I love this show and making vids on it so I defo think I’m gonna make a video on the original TH-cam stuff at some point because I like how they’re kind of different
I didn’t notice a few of the things you mentioned when I watched the episode, I didn’t notice the father being the smaller one who we assumed was the brother, or Roy walking past the window in the dinner scene, or when red guy started hallucinating and stuff. Ur analysis of this episode was rly cool. This show is rlly fun to watch bc you notice something different every time you watch it. It’s also the perfect mixture of the show having a deeper meaning but also it’s own mystery.
I love seeing different people's analyses of these episodes. Each person views the events differently and focuses on different parts. This I think is the first video I have seen that went in depth about the twins' home life.
when I first watched the episode I thought they were saying "family gay time"
Well gay means happy sometimes so they may have been.
no, "family gay time" is what the main trio do :)
me and my sister during pride month
Thats what mingling with the cousins is about :)
*Gets flashbacks to the DuckTales Reboot*
Scrooge: “…:) gay night?”
A family is just a group of people that live together and share a lawyer.
And have the same diseases.
And die on the same day, with the same cause of death, but at different times.
and in different locations, thats very important
And have photos in the family wallet
And die on the same day, in the same style of accident but in different locatiobs
I think that everyone really overlooks this line from Todney:
“I love my family, and they like me!”
He’s so defensive of his family, yet even in the heat of the moment, he can’t say that his family loves him back, but rather they just “like” him.
It’s also implied that the other members were also kidnapped and successfully integrated into the family, so Todney knows he’s not loved. He loves them in an extremely fucked up way but they don’t love him because the twins are essentially prison guards
jeez.
It's even shown later that Todney and Lilly were probably mentally/emotionally @bus3d. In the scene where they were watching home movies the brother looks at them in a strange way growling and their reactions to him says everything. I honestly feel sorry for them. They've basically been brainwashed or @bus3d to the point of submission and fear.
Hahaha reminds me of the denial I was in as a kid who's stepmother took over and turned everyone against me... this whole show is so much better than psychiatry.
Isn’t Todney a girl ?
I JUST realized that the trio represents an outlook on life, Red is a pessimist, yellow is an optimist and duck is a realist, and this affects each episode
wow you are smart :)
Oh wow I never thought of it like that! I’m going to rewatch the episodes with this in mind :)
Wow, nevrr thought about it. That is a great take!
I always thought of yellow as a child, duck as some sort of grandpa, and red as a young adult but I think your explanation makes a lot of sense
@@margotl2418 Doesn't mean you're wrong. Children tend to be optimists, young adults tend to be pessimists, and the older people tend to be more realistic. It still ties in with the theme they're talking about.
This episode feels a lot like going over a friend's house as a kid, and finding out why he comes over your house all the time because his family is incredibly dysfunctional and abusive
Lmao yea
@@chachapasta6060 LMAO??????????
He or she
@@ciaranorton4000 they
@@chachapasta6060lmao?
Something I wanna mention about that scene where Red is with his "family." It's interesting to note that, while he's excited for him to be there... the other members don't seem to be. What with the lines of "He's ruining it. We'll just have to leave him out of the shot." Only for Red to basically PLEAD for him to stay. "I'm just happy."
It reminds me a bit of web series. Where he doesn't quite fit in with others like him. He wants to fit in with others... he wants to belong... but he doesn't.
Poor Red guy! i wnat to hug him Q-Q
what webseries?
@@sexygirlmax2019 Dont Hug Me I'm Scared! All the episodes are in youtube for free
The one that trying to take the picture is the only one being aggressive towards him while the family don't seem to mind his present or him being happy maybe the rest are just trying the get family photo over with and hang out with him some more
The other Red Guys are even more Red Guy than Red Guy, so they kick him out for not being sufficiently Red Guy.
Something interesting I’ve noticed is that it seems like Duck is the only one really *living* in the house. I mean, the other ones live in the house too obviously, but they mostly just sit around waiting for things to happen. In the meantime, Duck reads the newspaper, rummages around the cabinets like in this episode, does his list thing from the transport episode and does a crossword puzzle. Idk what exactly this means but it definitely seems like Duck is the only one really doing things out of his own will instead of just waiting for another teacher to appear
And duck seems to be the only one content in staying as red guy shows multiple times that he wants to leave and yellow guy wanting to leave when he gains his batteries
Well he did call himself "dad"
He also referred to it as 'my house' in don't hug me I'm scared 4, so maybe that's something.
I think duck came with the house, like he's part of the structure of the show. The house was made for YG to live and grow in and RG was taken from an outside world but duck is actually an important piece of the house.
My evidence is the dream episode when the dead duck was conjured back by the control centre.
I also think it's why he can't die, he's a character on a kids show.
And there's more pictures of him when he died.
Red and Duck are interesting because... it's not like they're each the Only Sane Man, it's more that they have a better grasp of some things that the other doesn't. Duck is aware of the absurdity of some of the lessons, but but willing to go with the absurdity of their world.... while Red Guy is more likely to go along with the lessons, but he has less patience for the absurdity of their world.
I really love the thought that they all, on some level see the cracks of the house and see how much their lives are fucked but since Lesley keeps changing them out or directs them back to "normal" they can't exactly figure it out and they can't put the pieces together quite right, like the pieces match but how. It's also interesting to note that all of them are smart in their own way but sometimes it's overshadowed by the weirdness and the wildness which I guess says a lot more...
And Yellow just needs new batteries
Their inconsistent self-awareness has been bothering me, but you categorized it well! Though I'm not sure if it applies the whole time, such as in the Work episode, when Red Guy really wants to do his scheduled nothing while Duck is eager to get started with the work, before he ends up becoming a factory worker instead of a cryptocurrency billionaire.
@@Scypekever since duck knocked over the 'emotion family' stand in the work episode, he's been my favourite.
They red and duck have different types of understanding, like real people ...I wouldn't call it inconsistent.
Something I found interesting is how the twins cause this sort of fake positivity. You have to like them, you have to forgive them and you can't call them out for being wrong or corrupt or you'll be made to leave.
I feel like this is a dig at toxic family relationships, a lot of people are made to put up with family members that treat them like garbage solely because "they're family."
Oh definitely.
I mean they force Yellow into a role he doesn’t want just so they qualify for a family meal.
You could definitely read that as being forced to conform to a certain image so you fit this arbitrary standard.
Honestly, I’ve found that families that promote the idea of “family first” thinking above everything else are often the ones who abuse familial relationships the most. If a family is a loving one, they shouldn’t need to constantly reinforce how loving and familial they are; it will always be apparent.
Abusive parents are usually the ones who use the title of “family” to shirk accountability. There are so many times where people in a family have done something terrible but justify themselves by saying “I’m your mother/father/older sibling/ grandparent, and I have the right to do this”. So many victims of abuse fear leaving because it upsets the family dynamic and because they fear shirking their “duty” as a child/spouse/grandchild.
And abusive families are always the ones to enforce that family comes before friends, spouses, and everyone else, often as a way to isolate their victims. Family members are just as infallible as any other person, but they thrive off of skipping over that detail.
@@gregjayonnaise8314 Couldn’t have put it better myself.
And it does unsettle me that it is a common excuse when it comes to badly executed character redemptions in modern storytelling.
That you must forgive and take in this person who has done nothing to atone for their actions towards those who are both in and outside their family circles based on the grounds that they have a familial connection.
basically, my family.
as duck said family is just a word, but sometimes it can be an excuse.
*an excuse to harm, rob, or even kill.*
Another reason I think the twins chose yellow to be part of their "family" was that he looks the most similar to them out of the trio. He is the same size as mother in the family picture, and he is a more rounded and cartoonish looking human puppet similar to the twins and the father. He even has a letter "D" on his overalls, like Lilly and Todney's "L" and "T".
27:24 when yellow mentions coming with others, a green toy duck and a red mop are shown, obvious references to duck and red.
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For David
Todney saying "i *love* my family and they *like* me" is honestly so heartbreaking because it's just another of many references to how dysfunctional the twins' home life is
I honestly never caught that. Wow
It's weird to me that, while the trio was trying to come up with a title to describe their relationship, they never suggested "roommates". It's like they would consider the term with a level of consent, like roommates are meant to have the option to live together, but they likely didn't.
Considering they didn't know what the word Up means in ep6, they might not even know such long and complicated words exist
@@nomihabo9752 they've been educationally neglected, cut them some slack
Kinda what I was thinking.
@@Larsen_illustrations The irony is they're living out their entire lives on educational television! (Though, given DHMIS's commentary on children's edutainment in the past, those two probably aren't meant to be mutually exclusive.)
Cellmates might be more accurate
This was the first time Roy felt, like, straight up intimidating. He walks in with a calm demeanor, he does his job to make Yellow leave, then he goes apeshit. He knows how to control himself, much like he knows how to control a whole-ass show. He's clearly a bit goofy on the outside, but there's so many intricate parts to Roy's character that make you feel uneasy around him. He's exactly how an abusive dad should be viewed. Even if he isn't physically abusive, his behavior and actions just make him seem unstable and like you're never safe around him. Like he could explode at any second, and that adds an extra layer onto the episode's commentary.
he just casually eats the family like it’s a normal Tuesday evening
“He knows how to control himself, much like how he knows how to control a whole-ass show.”
I will try to quote that as much as possible
@@AinsleySunnyRoy is probably one of the most disturbing yet kinda funny characters ever
You know shit's fucked when you need Roy of all people to help
I think maybe them peeing themselves hints that they're in a bad home situation cuz wetting yourself common among traumatized kids
I defo agree! It happens again in the family song when they’re on their bunk beds too
I think that Lilly and Todney are the only "real" ones in the family. They're probably connected to the Family Tree in a much more intimate manner than shown. Something I noticed, especially, was that all of the crossed-out family member pictures looked like an existing family member in some way. There were Big look-alikes, there were Small look-alikes, I think I saw some Mother and some Grandmother look-alikes in there too. I think a picture being X'ed out means that the person kidnapped to play that role in the Family Tree+Twins's little stage play died and needed to be replaced. Their pictures are still there and crossed out because as one of the rules of being a family states, A Family Should Keep Records.
Damn that’s impressive, when watching this episode over and over I couldn’t figure out the connection between the x’s and why they were showing all the relatives and explaining how they all died, and it seems like nothing in this show is an accident, so I think you’re probably right (plus the mourners in episode 2 look like the other family members so it could be that people in this universe just kinda look like that)
@@waterwaveybaby It didn't really click for me either until I realized just how uncanny a resemblance the Small-looking guy at 23:28 had to the current Small. That had me stopping clips of the scene to look more closely at the others. This is definitely not the first time Lilly and Todney have kidnapped and gaslit people into being new members of their family. In fact, it really just reinforces their cultish reverence for the concept of family itself: they're homunculae created by the Family Tree solely for the purpose of finding and maintaining a specific family image. I imagine that Big being implied so heavily as someone abusive is just a natural by-product of his forced induction into the family. What I can't figure out any real evidence for is why the Family Tree wants this family to be maintained so badly - the big with it sucking out Red's blood suggests that it might actually feed on people in some way, and it could be the direct reason for a lot of the previous family members' deaths, but I don't think I can really support that with the show itself.
@@doomyboi if Lilly and Todney are both creatures created by the tree to lure in others for the tree to feed on, their internal/biological programming could be the extreme focus on what a family is and how it should be, so they'll always "head out of the hive" to bring in more "food" for the tree.
The twins also seem to regard family as something... Material. A family MUST have landlines, MUST eat Grolton's chicken and when they talk about their uncle, they mentioned he died but it doesn't matter because they got his filing cabinet. Just how media often shows that families must have things to be called a proper family
This episode scared me in the first watch but Toddney playing the fuck out of that tambourine in the music segment takes me out every time
He was feeling his oats
let him feel his oats
It sounded to me like he was banging his head against the wall.
Not to mention him playing the flute too 🤣
Something I’d like to mention is when Yellow goes to make the call he actually makes two, begging for help before dialing again and ordering the chicken
Was he calling his dad?
@@dantecarangelo1083 I think so, that would explain a bit more as to why Roy suddenly arrived
@@ShippyThe_PTalso I believe the family of twins was an external force from the series, with Roy having to intervene to make sure Yellow returns to the classic house.
I like how you said "here's their voice" because it IS the same damn voice for both 😂
The iconic shared voice, I’ve started subconsciously doing impressions of them and I think people are starting to get worried 👯♀️
hi sai!!!!
todney's is slightly deeper
Something interesting about the part Red meets his family that I didn’t see mentioned is that his family is pretty outwardly hostile to him for not fitting in with the other members of the family. There’s probably something to read into there.
Well, he did find them off a DNA matching site. So the only thing he has in common with them is genetics.
So might be that what makes a person isn’t our genes but the lives we have lived.
The one with the camera is the only one being hostile while Red Guy family probably just want the group pictures to be taken
Could definitely be an allegory for someone who doesn't fit in for whatever reason. For not filling a certain role or being "different" to all the other siblings/cousins/members.
@@Starburst514 well, he was the only unclothed one so there’s that.
They’re already posed for a family photo and all he can do is jump around in the background. Their family image and structure is complete without him and unyielding.
Red also had the same problem when he left the show in the web serie. Found a desk job alongside his serious fellow red guys, felt out of place, then went back to save his friends from Roy.
I also like during the call scene that Yellow Guy hammers in the absurdity of the small one being the dad by saying "Father?? THAT one's the dad???" in the most real tone I've heard him speak in the episode.
Put the spelling of the letter in a descrambler and the words with the most letters used was “abduct and hateful”. The most note worthy.
No way! I love the fan bases detective work when it comes to stuff like that, I never would have known
I ran it through a word scrambler myself to fact check this, and another word that came up is "ductal". When I look that word up, the first few links that come up are about ductal carcinoma. Perhaps Lily and Todney's mother died of breast cancer? IDK XD
This captured the experience of seeing my relatives more than anything ever. The creepy children, the furniture that looks icky to touch, the minefield of unpredictable taboos, all wrapped together under a sinisterly vague respect of the idea of family.
Do you think the creators purposely made the seen when lily hits ducks head as a little reference to duck duck goose. It can also correlate with the whole child act thing considering it’s mostly played by children
Yeah I missed that haha but that’s gotta be it, I like how the goose is usually the one being hit and duck still gets hit
I was just thinking that lol
I'm beginning to wonder if the Duck and Red who return to the kitchen are new ones put there by Leslie. I feel like Yellow is the only one she can't do that with.
I hadn't thought of that but it makes sense, that would explain why she has to trick yellow in the finale rather than just move him
He got smacked in the head w a glass bottle in ep4 and was just fine in ep5. Also ep5's ending (if we follow the headcanon the copies of the trio that escaped r still out there).
@@nomihabo9752 Counter point: Yellow is always covered in random injuries, boils and rashes.
@@SaiScribbles maybe he's just built like that idk
It may b side effects of having old batteries rotting inside him who knows
That's a good point, actually
I think the twin aren’t not supposed to be there . The fact they kill the Apple teacher.
Also the fact Roy come in and killing the family . You can tell that roy care about putting things in order and also this is the time Roy intervened choose to kill them probably knowing full while the family not supposed to be there.
Its probably a crossover ep in universe
@Oak the unfunny they could be from a family oriented sitcom and the ep is actually a crossover
Roy is like the Showrunner
So when These Cultists change the flow and direction of the episode
killing the teacher and misleading the Characters
Yeah he's gonna be pretty pissed
@@TooTired_ToType Although it is a fun thought, there's one thing not mentioned in these replies...
Leslie. She's the one who's foreshadowed in the 5th episode, with her name being on the vehicles Mr.Choo Choo turns into, moves the car back from the end if the episode, leading onto the last, and has a whole drawer of backups for the trio.
I love the interpretations of why Roy is there. Others have said it's to insert dominance to show how he's always right when things go wrong, he cares about the yellow guy but in a harsh way, and the show sponsored something other than Roy's products hence why he's angry
What's sad to me for some reason is that you can low-key see the hurt in Duck's face when Red says "I knew I wasn't supposed to be living with these *things"*
Fun fact: it was stated that the scariest creature that humans fear is a monster that resembles humans but isn’t
Uncanny valley
You know, thinking about how the dad appears more child like, it makes me think about how this also shows that romanticism of because it's a traditional household, the mother takes care of everything while the father gets to just sit around, basically do nothing, and is just another child that just works. Because, how I see it, when certain men talk about how they want a traditional household where the wife is at his beck and call and she's basically doing all the work around the house, I sometimes see that as "so you want another mother but you can marry this one? Someone to care for you and spoil you? And make you feel like something? Something a mother does more often..." idk if that's just me, but that's how I see it when it's brought up more often than not.
Also since the brother looks older, almost looking like he's in 60s and more in work clothes, that could sign that the brother had to step up and be the man of the house when his father decided to be in his own world. The brother had to grow up too fast but he still has no idea what's happening or how to fix it.
That is a smart way of looking at those characters, and very accurate
Not to get too personal, but I can vouch for this to some extent. While my dad has been getting better, he severely underestimated the amount of work and energy my mother put into taking care of and keeping our family together before her passing, and he spent quite a few years being rather distant (emotionally) and ignorant to us unless we were validating and being yesmen to his political views, sometimes not even contributing financially (the bare minimum expected of a traditional man), so often that I frequently thought of my older brother as the substitute father of the household (especially when he started making money when my dad didn't). And just like you've described, my older brother having to fill this role has affected him in negative ways, and while he says and believes in a lot of things that make me uncomfortable, I still feel bad for him because he spent his later teenage and early young adulthood having to parent his own siblings. I'd often tell my mother that he should be out partying, getting drunk when he shouldn't, or, considering he's an introvert, getting on discord calls doing things he'll cringe at in 5 years. But instead, he's raising his own siblings, a role he didn't ask for but was thrust upon him because the situation was complicated. Again, now that my father has been forced into a life without my mother, he is getting better at parenting, but those few years where he simply wasn't trying had quite the effect on my household, effects that still haven't been fully cured, especially mentally. Many people are unfortunately ignorant to just how easy it is to damage a family dynamic, the smallest behavior can have nasty effects, especially on the children, and can take years to correct, if they're able to be corrected at all. I like your interpretation on the little brother/father twist going on here, it's the most relatable for me. I hope your comment gains more traction.
(Sorry if that was a bit too vent-y for anyone reading this)
Everyone keeps overlooking what Todney says "I love my family and they like me" Love is given and not really expected. As long your provided with resources and tolerated is enough to love your family members.
And reasoning that Roy attacks/eats the family because it's not his brand but a different brand Grolton.
Honestly, I interpreted it mostly as another branch of toxic positivity in a dysfunctional family. Todney is aware his family doesn't love him. Only tolerate him (and his sister), because he's family. He loves them because he's a child and hence desperate to cling to ANY close connection.
Hence his line could be a Freudian slip. "I love my family and they like me".
He doesn't outright say it, but as a child self, he's too honest/blunt to hide it. Rather obscuring it in a throwaway line.
@@leroyjenkins1249 I'm pretty sure liking someone is better than tolerating them...
I don't really think Roy and Grolton are competitors. Roy doesn't go into chicken, he sells breakfast cereal (such as Roy's Oatmeal and Roy's Flakes, as seen in the TH-cam series).
I just think Roy was obligated to both maintain the status quo (which is obviously very important in the DHMIS Channel 4 series) and look after his son.
I think part of why the twins are so creepy is also because theyre... the only actual human shaped puppets in the show. comparing these two humanlike but not human puppets to the brightly colored trio is so uncanny and uncomfortable. immediately you can tell something is wrong there
It was really surreal to me, seeing characters on the show that were more humanoid than Yellow Guy for the first time.
There's one thing we can all agree,a family is only a family...
If they share a laywer
And they all die in the same way and the same time in completely different places
No,you’re all wrong! You all need your blood shared and be parents,children,and siblings to each other! And have love for each other glue them together forever and ever and ever and ever!
@@emmagottlieb9379nope just a lawyer
@@tommyok1232 STILL WRONG! Blood! Love! Relations! ALL those things need to be shared! Otherwise,you're not even a REAL family!
@@emmagottlieb9379 I agree with this guy, only conjoined twins count as family because theyre glued together AND they share the same lawyer!
Love and blood and other stuff too IG but the glue and the lawyer are the most important
The way that the family house is so much darker than the regular house makes me wonder if it’s sort of outside of what Lesley is doing. So the moment that Duck and Red guy get disconnected from the family illusion, she takes the opportunity to bring them back like from the dump. But the twins successfully lure Yellow guy into their web, and she can’t bring him back as easily. Thus Roy has to physically bring him back. The family is so predatory, this episode is a masterpiece of terror.
This really reminds me of a dysfunctional family. The reason Todney and Lilly’s life all end up back to the fact of family. The board game, never mention friends, the dark lighting. All they know is family. They can’t talk to anyone because they’re trapped with family. It’s just a never ending cycle. All they have is each other and dysfunctional family. It’s really sad.
Edit: Also Lily seems like it a habit to say thank you. Manners were hammered into them. So she HAS to say thank you.
Also the little “brother” is shown to have a tablet. Like representing how parents just shove a tablet in their kids face and let the internet raise them.
Though this is just a thought.
Edit: thank you to everyone telling me that the little brother is actually the dad. Please dont think I’m being rude, but that’s why I put it in parentheses. Sorry again if this comes off as rude.
Honestly, I’ve found that families that promote the idea of “family first” thinking above everything else are often the ones who abuse familial relationships the most. If a family is a loving one, they don’t need to constantly reinforce how loving and familial they are.
Abusive parents are usually the ones who use the title of “family” to shirk accountability. There are so many times where people in a family have done something terrible but justify themselves by saying “I’m your mother/father/older sibling/ grandparent, and I have the right to do this”. So many victims of abuse fear leaving because it upsets the family dynamic and because they fear shirking their “duty” as a child/spouse/grandchild.
And abusive families are always the ones to enforce that family comes before friends, spouses, and everyone else, often as a way to isolate their victims. Family members are just as infallible as any other person, but they thrive off of skipping over that detail.
The little "brother" is actually the dad
This the dad sir
That's the dad but still neglectful that's why is depicted as a child.
@@angiefortuna162 reminds me of my little sisters sperm donor
Family is a group people who have the lawyer and die on the exact same day in the exact same style of accidents.
But in different locations
I personally believe roy was there to "rescue" yellow. Mainly because the twins intercepted the course the episode was SUPPOSED to take. Roy went in to take care of the situation. Or was sent in by a higher power.
So Roy is kind of a creepy spy for Leslie?
@JoSheperd Roy is the parent of a child star, he gets rich from the contract. Yellow gets nothing.
i mean, he came after yellow called him, shouting for help
Lily and Todney are supposed to have 'adult mimicking child voices' bc indeed it is really creepy haha. Probably because lots of children's shows (i know the British ones anyway) did the same thing unironically back in the 2000's. One example is The Tweenies- I think Todney here is even the same voice actor who voiced Milo from the Tweenies
Yes! Lots of kid's shows have had that! Like, even today some shows have child characters voiced by adults.
They made me think of Tots TV more than anything else. They look kinda similar and sound the sameish.
@@NightcoreDemon For me, they remind me of Rosie and Jim, but they also look rather similar to Sarah and James, the twins from Fireman Sam.
@@worthybutter2004 Yea they look like fireman Sam characters
@@skylarthompson299 Excatly!
I sadly don't remember who it was but I remember hearing or reading someone saying that the twins looked so uncanny was because they "looked like they resulted from twins"
and this one joke has tremendously affected how serious I take the episode and it's great since I'm a bit of a scaredy cat and so I don't get as frightened
Shout out to the "mingle with tge cousins" line
Wait can u explain what u say ?
@@ItsLagoona The joke was about the twins looking like they were the result of an incestuous relationship between their parents
Btw, I love ur username!! Is it based on the mh character?
They're just a parody of the kind of puppets that used to be used in UK kids tv shows in the 70s and 80s, like fireman sam and postman pat; those puppets were equally uncanny and offputting.
not sure about that, I've seen clips of those shows and their puppets don't look anywhere near as uncanny as these twins.
I remember seeing a comment that said this episode captures that vibe of visiting a friends house as a kid and I can whole heartedly relate
Not just that, but visiting a friend's house as a kid, and finally putting the pieces together as to why they don't like touch, or why they have anger issues.
Basically realizing that they've gone through trauma and that their family is most likely the cause of that.
100% even if they had a lovely family, it always felt so uncomfortable unless you were close with the WHOLE family.
Most episodes, one person sees something not right
(example: transport, red breaks down during it and wants to leave)
During family and jobs: duck sees stuff wrong and is confused.
And during electricity, its yellow guy, he might be less confused and stuff but still finds things different. Its a cool detail i found that i see as interesting
I was thinking about how we assume that the larger more grown looking one in the family to be the father is interesting due to how he’s actually revealed to be an older brother, and how the father is portrayed as an incompetent child compared to him. It could mean the child like father is extremely neglectful and carelessly leaving the brother to be the only one old enough to care for the family, which is why he’s portrayed as an adult despite being significantly younger than the actual dad
I really like the detail that when they were measuring yellow they were REALLY measuring him. While Yellow was on the wall, Todney was on the floor getting his shoe size. Seeming to get his right measurement so Yellow could fill the role of their mother more perfectly
Hearing this observation, I kind of feel bad for the twins, they lost their mom and were stuck being raised by a childish traditional father, a distant brother and a dying grandmother, in the end, they end up getting murdered, hopefully they reunite with their "caring and kind" mother soon in heaven. If they end up there.
Everyone has different outlooks on this show, especially the trio, and I'll share mine. This has probably been explained by someone else, but the trio feels like the three stages of life, yellow is childhood, he's the most impressionable and he lacks any sort of knowledge that the other two have. Red is adulthood, he sees the world through a plain bland sort of lense, he strives for something but doesn't really know what that something is. And finally Duck is supposed to be the elderly, who usually like to keep to themselves and don't really give an effort to care for other people's interests, he's also the only one that dies in that one episode, while red wants to die and yellow doesn't really understand death so he just digs him back up from the grave, but that's only one example.
Especially since duck even dresses similarly to an elderly man
something that someone pointed out that i found really interesting is how the fact that the twins set Yellow as the "mother" can imply that he's interpreted as and _is_ an adult, even though he seems to act and behave like a little kid. so his "other self" in the final episode makes a lot more sense, given he's a fully-developed adult capable of that level of thought, if that makes sense.
regardless i enjoyed watching this video while eating lasagna and i can't wait for more.
maybe he is given the old batteries to embody the old david and him now had grown up
Considering we know that Yellow is or represents someone who was hit by a car it's possible that he was mentally debilitated or put into a state of arrested development as a result of brain damage
@@unfortunateoracle2509I personally think that he was an autistic man, and the car crash killed him.
-The twins are based on 'Rosie and Jim' and 'tots tv'.
-Lily hitting Duck on the head is a reference to the game 'Duck Duck Goose'.
I just looked up who Rosie and Jim were and they honestly look more creepy than Lily and Todney to me, what with the painted-on eyes XD
i have a weird theory, but where the hell did the twins come from and where the hell is their house? The episode about transport has them leave the house for the first time and in multiple occasions we see Lesley accessing the puppet form of the house. Given that there is a floor plan with a few more rooms on the ground floor there is missing space on the second floor. I think that lilly and todney live in the part of the second floor that we don't see. When you look at the intro you can see different curtains when the house is spinning at the very beginning and the curtains from twins' house is on the second floor and you can see their wallpaper when yellow guy accidentally breaks the duck figurine in the 6th episode. Additionally, duck drops through the floor in this episode to end up in the original house, and roy shows up out of nowhere. Makes sense for Roy to know whats happening in this episode as he spies through the walls.
but how can he walk outside of the house
@@rjseditsandcleanytps that's the stairs/the hallway outside the bigger boys room, I don't have an explanation for the brick wall
Someone had a theory that they were apart of another kid’s show, that one focused on a family and their lives, maybe it’s in the time slot before the trio’s show so it’s “above” them
The scene with the family chanting for food is also a callback to the scene with the trio chanting for the Chuddle Dollops to be opened.
I feel like it should be pointed out that another aspect carried over from the web series is that Red is *still* shown as being an outlier even among his own species. Yes, he's the group pessimist, but when compared to an outside perspective he's still more full of life and creativity than is expected of him by the "real world".
I've noticed that Duck seems to have taken Reds place as the sensible one in the group. In the original DHMIC, it was always Red who would point out the ridiculousness of the situation and seemed reluctant to go along with it. Now he seems much more willing, and it's duck that's weary of everything.
Wary, not weary. Weary means tired.
6:15 Anyone else notice how all 3 flinch when Todney enters? Even Red Guy is scared.
I want to praise the show for the voice direction of the twins. The way they sound is exactly like characters from old British childrens' TV shows, which would often be stop motion, and featured very few, or even only one voice actor (usually an older man.) There'd be an attempt at different voices, but they'd always sound... Well, like the twins. You'd get used to it and it'd sound normal to you because when everyone sounds the same, you focus more on the small differences instead of "hang on, why does this little girl sound like a 40 year old bloke?" But when there are other voice actors, stuff like that sticks out a lot more and adds to the creep factor, which I'm sure is what the show is going for!
Bonus points for the twins looking similar in style to some of the puppets used.
100% agree, they're my favourite characters in the whole show, whoever voices them nailed it
I wonder if, potentially, other members of Lilly and Todney’s family have also been replaced the way the tried to replace their mother, and that’s why their father is so small.
Edit: this would also explain why the rest of their family looks nothing like them
As a child who lives in a dysfunctional family, I can't watch this episode. It hits me hard. It shows the truama and abuse a family can put a young member through, maybe without even knowing it. It shows how another family member could be trying to retreat from the dysfunctional family to find a better, while not biological, and more loving family.
I definitely have friends who have, while jokingly, started to become a family. I'm a member of the LGBTQ+ and my family isn't really supporting of that. I have friends in similar situations so we've kinda just made our own family. Much like how Red Guy tries to find his family, only to be the odd one out. Near the end, he returns back to Duck and Yellow Guy because, even if they're not biological family, they still seem connected to each other.
Your family dont like your wacky choice thats a common theme
Been waiting for episode 3 for decades, and I shall again wait more decades for episode 4.
All jokes aside, I've been enjoying the series so far!
Thanks so much haha, yeah they just keep getting longer n longer, i'll be back in a century
No matter how creepy they are, Lily and Todney are surprisingly one of my favorite characters in dhmis.
Having the Father being just slightly bigger than Red Guy really made me nervous. Because now the gang isn't just outnumbered but also perhaps out strength.
the true form of fear this episode brings out of me is the feeling of going over to your friend's house for the first time as a kid and meeting their parents and their family and the way they live EVERY DAY in ways you don't -- and there's a bunch of customs you aren't familiar with, and offending them -- and being REALLY uncomfortable with the fear they present around their dad...
it's a very relatable sort of fear. especially in that once it's over you go back to your life, and they go back to theirs. these kids have to keep living like this while the gang sticks to theirs.
What was really creepy was the Twins unfocused gazes.
Todney’s musical skills really made the episode. Just look at him go
"I love my family and they like me!"
Relatable Todney.
I think making the young boyish looking puppet be the father makes sense. The mother clearly did everything and the father is a man child who plays on his tablet neglecting the children who in turn have either clung to this idea of a famjly or like the younger brother have grown up beyond their actual age because they have to due to survival.
That's right mate!
It's Weird to think that just after 3 The scariest episode Comes 4 the least scary episode the only horror coming about at the end with just a quick bit sort of like the Web series Can't wait to see His breakdown of that
Edit: Actually 5 is the Least scary Having no Horror at all Basically
5 doesn't have any gore but it has plenty of psychological horror. The whole "you can't escape" vibe of the series is strongest there
I don't know it feels more like a fun Road trip, Especially with the Song the trio sing Being the happiest song with no weird imagery Gore or stuff like that. to me the whole you can't escape thing It's barely in there being more and fast little bits
@@dawnofthed4y the fact that they have everything trying to make them go back, the sat nav, the car itself, the lack of info on the tapes, the fact that the world just loops round and round, and then Lesley at the end
Horror doesn't mean gore an screaming bestie
What about the fact that T H E C H O O C H O O M A N dies?
Fun fact: the mouths of the twins are actually animated (the ones that don't have teeth), so the real puppets have no mouths, which is disturbing 😀
Hm
24:04, Aside from that...both are related to characters who can handle blood. The coffin's introduction came from a pool of blood while the tree uses a DNA sample from Red Guy's blood.
I recall reading something where Red was originally going to be the mother instead of Yellow. I'm curious to see how differently that would have played out
to be fair as seen with what he did to mr choo choo i think roy wouldnt have been needed
@@illcomeupwithaname4323 I am now very interested on how you think that would go
@@AinsleySunny idk
but i think red guy would have snapped cause of this and idk
beaten the shit out of the family? idk
@@illcomeupwithaname4323 it’d be interesting to see him in a fight snndndndjdsjjs, I mean the guy is the tallest of the trio 🤷
@@AinsleySunny i now imagined red guy throwing the father across the room and its for some reason the funniest shit i ever imagined
Thinking about it,the twins probably kidnapped/gaslit several other people just for food,this could explain the obvious signs of neglect as there isn’t really anyone who looks after the twins.This could also be explained by the fact that almost all the photos in the family tree are crossed out..they are probably just hungry,abused children.This could also be seen as when Todney speaks during the family movie,big tells them to be quiet and they seem absolutely terrified…
there's no such thing as a meal only for families. there are meals that get discounts for families though. they do all of this just to save a little bit of money and have food that night. after the mom is gone.
Also the older brother having to take care of his siblings and grandma because the dad is neglectful
So to recap, the Weird Family had:
-twins who could either teleport or run insanely fast
-the ability to forcefully teleport other people away by agreeing they should leave
-hidden true mouths of sharp teeth hidden behind their fake mouths
-concealed traits of adult humans hidden by fake bodies
-a giant older brother even the twins were afraid of
-probably weren't teachers, meaning they couldn't be messed with using the simulation controls
And they STILL couldn't last 2 seconds against roy.
Just something I noticed, a lot of the things revolving around 'family values' are based in capitalistic roots. Like sharing a lawyer or a landline, or for 'family' being mandatory to purchase and consume certain products.
Classic DHMIS. The TH-cam shorts are often more explicitly about advertisement and anticonsumerism. They're fantastic
I feel like the twins take control of the episode itself and the trio (at the beginning) because they seem like they have little or no control in their own home, the control and the "a family MUST" are ways of coping unintentionally because this was hammered into them, it's all they know, this is the only thing they can control. They have no power, and they know the trio doesn't either, so as a way of power, they take control of the trio and show them what *they* know to be a family, *not* what a family is.
Man, thank you so much for the details regarding camera work, montage and all that! I learn the theory in college, and your videos really help to understand what shots do what and how all that is used in the media i like
No worries! I studied film in college too, and yea that's why I love this show so much, even though it's got the mystery and amazing theories, it's still a technically great made show (all the lighting, camerawork, sound design). You can really tell that they spent years just ironing out these six incredible episodes
I just realized, it’s kind of interesting that their names start with T and L. Yknow, like Truth and Lies? Could be coincidental, but with this series, I’m not 100% sure what’s coincidence…
If all the friendlier looking puppets turn out to have ulterior motives, imagine one who's very clearly meant to look intimidating being laid back and almost brutally honest.
I love how you describe why exactly something feels a specific way in this video! for example why it makes us uncomfortable when the twins were out of focus, super interesting and it makes this video feel much more "relatable" in a sense !!!
and definitely much more interesting to watch since it´s unique (to me at least oops) :D
The twins are almost like baby lions or hippos or something. They're learning to be like their scary adult parents. They may not hurt you now, but once they get older...
I remember I was watching a TH-cam version of the TV show and just cut to black after Lily puts the human hand over his shoulder and it genuinely took me a second torealise it was because the video was claimed
…what
Perfect timing lmao
Huh
They are also suggested to be missing in the YT series Ep3- Love, where there is a missing poster for them on a tree
the first ones were more on the line of a dark comedy
as in less about being scary than placing absurd but relatable situations
but this one was truly terrifying
27:46 This song brings a tear to my eye, so beautiful
I just realized that the two antagonists so far (the twins and warren) are living creatures meanwhile all the teachers are objects thought that would be interesting to point out
I saw the "Mother's stressed again" as a hint that they've done this to someone before yellow guy before
I think this episode also covers cults. Cults also tend to see each other as families. Also, I can't help but notice that the dress they made Yellow wear reminds me of the dresses in Midsommar, a horror movie about a pagan death cult.
if you look closely, the older brother didn't transform into a monster which makes me feel like he is the one who is truly broken, being made to do his sibling's bidding. they are the golden children since they are the ones who are actually monsters, his hair he pulled out from stressed or from his crazy siblings.
Lilly and Todney: looks like they need our help
Me, watching this episode clearly not expecting the creepiness to be instant: *you keep your help far the fuck away from me*
You know what? Considering that you mentioned how Red never wants to do anything because he is somewhat aware of being in a strange sort of limbo prison situation, it weirdly reminded me of Sans.
I was studying different Sanses, mostly for fun and to find out new things I didn't previously know, and something that stuck out to me was how he's described. "fatalism + apathy = laziness". The reason Sans has fatalism is because of his knowledge of the timelines, saves, resets, etc., which sounds very similar to Red Guy in this situation.
Red Guy seems very apathetic most of the time, and appears lazy because he doesnt like to do anything, which could very much be the product of him possibly having fatalism thanks to knowing he's stuck in some sort of prison.
And I think that's quite interesting.
I think Yellow called Roy on the phone because I think I remember him dialing twice, once shouting for help before dialing the second time 🤔
I love the twins. They’re so cute and creepy. I love their wandering eyes and derpy, thoughtless expressions.
They remind me of those backwoods families that are… too close, if you know what I mean. Their family tree doesn’t have many branches lol.
They’re usually close knit and quite unhealthy, only keeping within their family circle…
Maybe their mother was eaten by them or sacrificed by the family? Or maybe she escaped?
Amazing analysis! Would you ever go back and try your hand at the original? You have such attention to detail and focus! My god, man, have a sub and know I’m recommending your channel to everyone I know who loves these deceitful puppets!🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you so much it means a lot :) I love this show and making vids on it so I defo think I’m gonna make a video on the original TH-cam stuff at some point because I like how they’re kind of different
“And argue over, which ones the daddy”
12:50 the best line in ep 3! i love the twins and i dont know why they're just funny and so weird! great video btw :)
"Giving the trio a lovely lesson about eating healthy."
**War flashbacks**
WHATS THAT A TASTY SNACK YOU DONT WANNA EAT A SNACK LIKE THAT GREEDY TO EAT ALL THAT YOULL END UP WITH YOUR TEETH ALL GREY
I feel like you could definitely tell that something was IMMEDIATELY wrong with the twins by the way their eyes were
"I love my family and they like me!
*uncontrollable wiggle*
14:26 is where lily is cutting Todny`s hair lol it’s actually cute ☺️
I didn’t notice a few of the things you mentioned when I watched the episode, I didn’t notice the father being the smaller one who we assumed was the brother, or Roy walking past the window in the dinner scene, or when red guy started hallucinating and stuff. Ur analysis of this episode was rly cool. This show is rlly fun to watch bc you notice something different every time you watch it. It’s also the perfect mixture of the show having a deeper meaning but also it’s own mystery.
Also in the family film, the talk about how hungry they are ... it definitely sounds like the twins ate the original one.
"...The trio are not a family... because of that damn landline!"
HAHAHAHA I'm dead and buried! Great line there
I love seeing different people's analyses of these episodes. Each person views the events differently and focuses on different parts. This I think is the first video I have seen that went in depth about the twins' home life.
A family is a group people that die on the same day in the same kind of accident but on different locations.